NationStates Jolt Archive


That Makes Sense

Remote Observer
27-06-2007, 00:41
Fearing that the UN would impose crippling sanctions, especially on its imports of refined gasoline, the Iranians (in a move widely anticipated by the West) have started rationing gasoline in their country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6243644.stm

So, if I have this right, out of fear that crippling sanctions would be imposed, the Iranians have gotten a head start on crippling their own economy...

Does that sound like an illogical move to you? Especially when they didn't even warn anyone in Iran that they were going to do this? In a country where they believe that they have plenty of oil, and cheap subsidized gasoline?
Demented Hamsters
27-06-2007, 02:11
Does that sound like an illogical move to you? Especially when they didn't even warn anyone in Iran that they were going to do this?
When has anything Iran done been logical?
As for not telling anyone before-hand - why would what is little more than a dictatorship ever feel the need to tell it's citizens anything?
Vetalia
27-06-2007, 02:18
Iran's really rationing gasoline because they're going broke and can't afford to finance imports anymore. Inflation is out of control, unemployment and underemployment are rising, the economy's wobbling and more and more people are seeing living standards fall every day.

Despite the biggest oil price windfall in 36 years, Ahmadinejad has still managed to ruin his economy with his idiotic policies. Won't be long before he's removed from office, one way or another.
Lord Raug
27-06-2007, 02:23
Iran is rationing fuel because 40% of their gas has to be imported since they are unable to refine it themselves. The Iranian Govt is scared that the UN will place sanctions, because of their Nuclear program and cut off the importation of fuel, leaving Iran at a 40% deficit in terms of fuel.

What really doesn't make sense is blowing up the gas station and wasting the fuel.....
UN Protectorates
27-06-2007, 02:27
Iran's really rationing gasoline because they're going broke and can't afford to finance imports anymore. Inflation is out of control, unemployment and underemployment are rising, the economy's wobbling and more and more people are seeing living standards fall every day.

Despite the biggest oil price windfall in 36 years, Ahmadinejad has still managed to ruin his economy with his idiotic policies. Won't be long before he's removed from office, one way or another.

This is exactly why we shouldn't invade Iran. Let the UN sanction thier ass until they're forced to let in inspectors to overview Iranian nuclear facilities.

Also, when the Iranian people are pushed over the edge in thier dissatisfaction with the government due to these latest ridiculous ventures... Bam! Second Iranian Revolution.
Swilatia
27-06-2007, 02:31
Almost everything the iranian government does is illogical.
IDF
27-06-2007, 02:33
Almost everything the iranian government does is illogical.

Surak wouldn't approve.
Swilatia
27-06-2007, 02:37
Surak wouldn't approve.

Why is this surak you speak of?
Lord Raug
27-06-2007, 02:38
Despite its huge energy reserves Iran lacks refining capacity, forcing it to import about 40% of its petrol.

Tehran is trying to rein in fuel consumption over fears of possible UN sanctions over its nuclear programme.

Iran fears the West could sanction its petrol imports and cripple its economy.

It's not illogical. It actually makes perfect sense. They want to reduce fuel consumption BEFORE sanctions are put into play. What would be harder? Being told you can no longer get fuel at all or being told you are being rationed to 100 litres a month? Also the sooner they decrease fuel consumption the more that can be stockpiled and the longer that stockpile will last. Everyday that they have before they run dry is a day longer that they have to improve their ability to refine fuel and become totally self-sufficient.
OuroborosCobra
27-06-2007, 03:26
Fearing that the UN would impose crippling sanctions, especially on its imports of refined gasoline, the Iranians (in a move widely anticipated by the West) have started rationing gasoline in their country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6243644.stm

So, if I have this right, out of fear that crippling sanctions would be imposed, the Iranians have gotten a head start on crippling their own economy...

Does that sound like an illogical move to you? Especially when they didn't even warn anyone in Iran that they were going to do this? In a country where they believe that they have plenty of oil, and cheap subsidized gasoline?

Obviously you have never read anything about the purpose of rationing. I get the impression by what I have seen on this forum in my short time since I returned, and what other people have said about you, that you just saw "Iran" in the title and declared it stupid.
Remote Observer
27-06-2007, 11:42
Obviously you have never read anything about the purpose of rationing. I get the impression by what I have seen on this forum in my short time since I returned, and what other people have said about you, that you just saw "Iran" in the title and declared it stupid.

I get the impression you don't know anything about the idiocy of rationing at this point, especially with no public relations preparation.

No, I don't see "Iran" and automatically assume it's stupid. I was discussing this with Mahshad in the office, and she's from Iran, and she and her relatives (who are in Iran) think it's stupid.

Got it?
Callang Provinces
27-06-2007, 11:54
Iran worse than Paris Hilton it'll do anything to get in the news............
Andaras Prime
27-06-2007, 12:06
The Iranians should continue full speed and try to get a nuke, once they do they're invincible, and that's what the US imperialists fear, they want everyone to disarm while they build massive nuclear weapon stockpiles.
Rambhutan
27-06-2007, 12:52
I would say it makes perfect sense:

a) you start building up reserves of petrol so if sanctions do happen you can carry on as normal to some extent.

b) it gets the populace used to the idea of rationing before it is needed.

c) it gets the populace behind your policy and makes them blame the 'enemy' for the shortages.

Far better than an unprepared panic introduction of any kind of rationing.
The Infinite Dunes
27-06-2007, 13:13
I would say it makes perfect sense:

a) you start building up reserves of petrol so if sanctions do happen you can carry on as normal to some extent.

b) it gets the populace used to the idea of rationing before it is needed.

c) it gets the populace behind your policy and makes them blame the 'enemy' for the shortages.

Far better than an unprepared panic introduction of any kind of rationing.See, this guy understands the concept behind rationing.
Kryozerkia
27-06-2007, 13:23
I would say it makes perfect sense:

a) you start building up reserves of petrol so if sanctions do happen you can carry on as normal to some extent.

b) it gets the populace used to the idea of rationing before it is needed.

c) it gets the populace behind your policy and makes them blame the 'enemy' for the shortages.

Far better than an unprepared panic introduction of any kind of rationing.

Precisely. Rationing is about maximizing the extent of your resources under extenuating circumstances. By pre-emptively preparing for the repercussions of sanctions by introducing rations, you can be adequately prepared for the windfall.

By not consuming your resources and rationing you have a greater chance of making it through that murky quagmire.

While some may consider this apples and oranges; look at WWII England vs WWII Germany.

England used rationing from the first day, Germany didn't use rationing until almost the end, if at all. Who came out ahead? England ultimately was better off in the end with its rationing because it was able to maximise it minimal resources.