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Are the various aspects, from regional diplomacy to national war RPs, of Nationstates fun? Do you enjoy them, or does a lot of this seem like a waste of time?

And yes, NSG does come with the NS package. Even though you could technically not have a nation but be part of it.

does NSG count?

I pretty much am only on here for NSG.

Do you enjoy them, or does a lot of this seem like a waste of time?
Can't it be both?

Only do NSG...

What is this nationstates you speak of?

I think it's pretty fun, why not? :p

Define "waste of time." Can any distraction or game be considered a 'valuable use of time?" Whats the criteria?

I don't play, though. I just do NSG.

What is this nationstates you speak of?
Some geeky crap game.

Their General forum is even worse.

Very fun. Max Barry is God. Bow to him!

I'm only here to piss off people with my big type.

Some geeky crap game.

Their General forum is even worse.

The game is not that good, i'll agree with that, but the general forum is excellent. It's the reason why i'm still here.

The game is not that good, i'll agree with that, but the general forum is excellent. It's the reason why i'm still here.

I think he was kidding about the game. ;) Though I don't play it, so I couldn't say whether it's fun or not - although I do play the "issues" that my nation gets occasionally, just for kicks. :)

The game is not that good, i'll agree with that, but the general forum is excellent. It's the reason why i'm still here.
Swilatia, meet sarcasm.
Sarcasm, meet Swilatia.
:P

I just play the basic(?) game, no UN or RP.

Mostly yes.

I get annoyed with the large amount of 'passengers' in regions. You get regions where there's simply NO interaction, where messages were last posted 193 days ago. :headbang:

Minor irritations are:
no recycling of 'dead' nation names. All the good ones are gone and people are making do with misspellings e.g. sovet union. After a year dead the name should be released.

No regional flags
No regional issues
No entry for Head of State or Capital city

Oh and the gamers running the same "cool" character in every conceivable RP :rolleyes:

wow, I sound really grumpy....:eek:

I'm a pure Generalite. And I enjoy it the same way any junkie enjoys her addiction.

Swilatia, meet sarcasm.
Sarcasm, meet Swilatia.
:P

sarcasm or not, I think the game itself actually does suck.

Are the various aspects, from regional diplomacy to national war RPs, of Nationstates fun? Do you enjoy them, or does a lot of this seem like a waste of time?

I don't enjoy them and am freely suffering for more than 4 years already :p

Are the various aspects, from regional diplomacy to national war RPs, of Nationstates fun? Do you enjoy them, or does a lot of this seem like a waste of time?

These days my interest extends only as far as General.

Minor irritations are:
no recycling of 'dead' nation names. All the good ones are gone and people are making do with misspellings e.g. sovet union. After a year dead the name should be released.

That's so that people like me don't get their old nations back.

No regional issues

How do you think it would be possible to have "regional issues" the concept makes no sense to me.

meh, i stopped playing "the game" months and months ago. i still check back and stuff, but i don't answer issues any more because a) they're repetitive, and b) because i got my nation the way i like it. and i've never had the inclination for RPing.

NSG, of course, is another matter :fluffle:

How do you think it would be possible to have "regional issues" the concept makes no sense to me.

Inhabitants of the region would vote on them? Dunno. Sounds kinda fun.

That's so that people like me don't get their old nations back.

What do you mean by "people like you"?

Inhabitants of the region would vote on them? Dunno. Sounds kinda fun.

isn't that what UN resolutions are for?

The game itself (i.e., UN, Issues, regions, etc.) sucks, but the forums are awesome.

The website proper is just shy of crap. The forums are fun. The website needs more oomph like Cybernations. They also haven't made good on promises of NS2.

I enjoy the game. In the last 18 odd months I've explored many aspects of NS. Regional politics, chatting on the RMB, arguing in the UN (under other names), some region-invading, even (ugh) posting in NSG! I'm burned out on the repeating issues and seldom bother to answer them anymore, but I still like the rest of the game.

That's so that people like me don't get their old nations back.

Can't you ask for resurrection? Or was it deleted for another reason then inactivity?

Ideally, NS allows you to create your own country, and "run" it as you see fit. In application, however, there are many limitations to this notion; especially when becoming a member of the UN.

When submitting a proposal, your thoughts, ideas, and objectives are "screened" before they can be a part of true diplomacy. While I support the idea that this prevents obscene language and other "unacceptable" behavior, keep in mind that your proposal can be arbitrarily dismissed because a moderator might think it's just "stupid". It can also be dismissed because a moderator might disagree with the category the proposal is listed under. This is hypocritical of the entire UN political process and specifically targets smaller nations.

The idea behind this practice is to prevent the queue from becoming over-filled. In a real democracy, however, the queue has no limit, and each nation should have a fair chance at proposing legislation without someone determining its merit based solely on his or her beliefs. This is why we vote on proposals in the first place.

While I am pleased with most of the way Nation States operates, and believe that certain improvements can always be made, I believe that before we can even worry about expanding game features, we should take a second-glance at the operational procedures that govern Nation States in the first place.

One way to solve this issue is to limit the amount of proposals that a nation can make (per week, month, etc.) for all nations, while continuing to screen for obscenity or inappropriateness, yet not judging the proposal any further.

I rule. Time to smoke some grass.

Somewhat.

Invasions are annoying, though.

How do you think it would be possible to have "regional issues" the concept makes no sense to me.

I think he means that there's little that binds a region together within the game. Many regions are great at establishing forums outside the game but there is little in-game use for a region. I like the delegate stuff but it doesn't suit those states that do not want to play the UN. A region has a name and that's all.

The UN resolution system is bloated with rulesmiths. The current resolution is to repeal a resolution which in turn was a revised version of a previously repealed resolution. All it really proves is that we are not very good at drafting laws.

I like some of the issues, and I have a region full of my puppets (and one of Minaris'). I also like messing with the mottos and currencies and stuff :p

But the best part, is the General forum. General=win, every time. :D :fluffle:

It's good to be the Grendels. So yes, I enjoy it.

I'm just here for NSG, and to watch the population of my nation grow.

It's good to be the Grendels. So yes, I enjoy it.

It's.. it's.. one of the.. always.. ten..! :eek:

I'm only here to piss off people with my big type.

you rock dude.

In Soviet Russia, Nationstate enjoys you!

...

Right, being serious now, I lost interest in the actual game about a year ago. Only then did I notice that there were forums :D

There is absolutely no part of nationstates that I enjoy at all. None.
[/sarcasm]

I like reading.
I like writing.
So, it's generally a win - win.
But I wouldn't take it to an every-day role play extent that I see some of the other members do.
The actual game itself outside of RP has mostly lost it's appeal, and I only keep my nation around as a guide. Eventually my interest in using it will fade and I will once again allow it to go inactive.
Hmm. Somewhat. I suppose.

Mostly here for NSG, and mostly not enjoying it much these days. Maybe it was always juvenile, but it seems more so lately. I rarely find anything worth posting about any more. Been trying to ween myself, go a day or two w/o loggin' . . . meh. :(

I enjoy going on NSG and getting in arguments etc, I never got into the RP section though, too overly complicated. So I'd say I like the forum community, and for the game I remember a while back having some fun times invading nazi regions, but the only reason I keep my nation alive these days is because it's got so large, that and I want to transfer the name over if NS2 ever comes out.

I think he means that there's little that binds a region together within the game. Many regions are great at establishing forums outside the game but there is little in-game use for a region. I like the delegate stuff but it doesn't suit those states that do not want to play the UN. A region has a name and that's all.

The UN resolution system is bloated with rulesmiths. The current resolution is to repeal a resolution which in turn was a revised version of a previously repealed resolution. All it really proves is that we are not very good at drafting laws.
How the hell would your "regional issues" work though?

does NSG count?

I pretty much am only on here for NSG.

Only do NSG...

What is this nationstates you speak of?

Yes, I'll include that in 'the NS experience.

I have to admit, I don't enjoy it as much as I used to, hence the fact that I hardly even come on the boards anymore. I'm always at Musicals dot Net now, talking about my future in the Theatrical Arts. And at MdN, they allow games and stuff, so I spend the whole time b.tching about my life in the "What's your status?" thread. If we had that here, I'd come on all the time.

If everything except NSG fell apart and stopped working I wouldn't care in the slightest.

I have to admit, I don't enjoy it as much as I used to, hence the fact that I hardly even come on the boards anymore. I'm always at Musicals dot Net now, talking about my future in the Theatrical Arts. And at MdN, they allow games and stuff, so I spend the whole time b.tching about my life in the "What's your status?" thread. If we had that here, I'd come on all the time.Okay, I'll bite. Wot's yer handle over there?

How the hell would your "regional issues" work though?

There are plenty of international topics: disease, war economics, sport and others. Regional members could be posed issues in the same way that nations are. Perhaps only one issue a week and they could debate and vote on how to tackle them. I'm thinking that it would get regions active.

Okay, I'll bite. Wot's yer handle over there?

Woah, dude...Are you IQH on MdN, too? What's the timeline of what's just happened...I'm so confused!

Woah, dude...Are you IQH on MdN, too? What's the timeline of what's just happened...I'm so confused!

Saw yer post here (sent a TG too) then reggied over there, then found yer pics in the pic thread there (which I recognized from yer vids). Nothing too warped.

only NSG. the rest strikes me as being mind numbingly dull. i just don't have the patience for RPing.

There are plenty of international topics: disease, war economics, sport and others. Regional members could be posed issues in the same way that nations are. Perhaps only one issue a week and they could debate and vote on how to tackle them. I'm thinking that it would get regions active.

I still don't understand you, you're just saying the same stuff over and over again. There is no way something like this could work.

Saw yer post here (sent a TG too) then reggied over there, then found yer pics in the pic thread there (which I recognized from yer vids). Nothing too warped.

So you made your user account before or after this thread?

So you made your user account before or after this thread?
After seeing this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12817970&postcount=46), because I do work in the Arts, and I've been looking for something different. So, you know, like, thanks :)

I only use NSG. Even then its's tedious, repetitive, and fairly boring. Unfortunately I seem to find myself here quite regularly.