NationStates Jolt Archive


How hardcore are you ideologically?

South Lizasauria
25-06-2007, 22:05
How far are you willing to go to spread or defend your ideology?

Are you willing to fight for it, do you constantly try to force it down everyone else's throat, or are you silent about it?

Poll coming
New Stalinberg
25-06-2007, 22:09
I yell at children with my megaphone since they're the most succeptable to brainwashings and arethe future after all.

If someone gives me a hard time I whip out my nunchuks and pull my shirt off so they know I'm all business.

I'd never die for it or anything.
Ultraviolent Radiation
25-06-2007, 22:12
Ideology is a disease of the mind.
Hydesland
25-06-2007, 22:13
I yell at children with my megaphone since they're the most succeptable to brainwashings and arethe future after all.


You win teh thread.
Nadkor
25-06-2007, 22:15
Not at all. I don't have an ideology, I have a collection of personal ideas, feelings, and beliefs. It's loose and undefined, and difficult to defend as a whole.
Chumblywumbly
25-06-2007, 22:15
I don't follow an ideology, I have beliefs.

EDIT: Yeah, what Nadkor said.
Wilgrove
25-06-2007, 22:17
Eh I let the people come to me, and we have an open and frank discussion about it. I don't try to cram what I believe down people's throat, and most of the time, they don't want me to, so yay!
Phantasy Encounter
25-06-2007, 22:21
I definitly do not believe in forcing my beliefs on anyone else. I, for one, do not believe that by beliefs are any more special than anyone elses. I will defend by beliefs however, if someone tries to force their beliefs on me. I am willing though, to debate about the validity of my beleifs and am willing to change them if I find that they are wrong.
Holyawesomeness
25-06-2007, 22:22
Is it really an ideology if it is absolutely true? I mean, nobody calls me an ideologue when I say the earth is round. Really, the issue is that nobody recognizes my divine mission to show them what is right not that I am a fanatic.
Europa Maxima
25-06-2007, 22:25
I will defend my beliefs ruthlessly, but I'm not also inclined to die for them, nor impose them upon others.
Grendel90
25-06-2007, 22:41
I will not die for my ideology. Dying is what those that disagree with me are supposed to do... :sniper:
New Stalinberg
25-06-2007, 22:43
I will not die for my ideology. Dying is what those that disagree with me are supposed to do... :sniper:

It's funny because you used a noob smiley. :rolleyes:
Greill
25-06-2007, 22:59
I'd die for my ideology, for sure.
Ghost Tigers Rise
25-06-2007, 23:08
I'll fight and die for the things I believe in, but I won't proselytize them.
New Limacon
25-06-2007, 23:10
"Ideology" is an unpleasant word. It implies that my personal beliefs are somehow not in complete accordance with the mind of God.
SaintB
25-06-2007, 23:33
I will defeed my beliefs if I feel the need, if asked about them I will express them. There might be one or two things I could find worth killing or dying for but only in extreme cases.
New Malachite Square
25-06-2007, 23:42
If someone gives me a hard time I whip out my nunchuks and pull my shirt off so they know I'm all business.

I'd never die for it or anything.

When you have mastered the nunchucks, you cannot be killed…
Neesika
25-06-2007, 23:45
Hmm, well since my ideology is very much consensus-based, shoving it down people's throats won't work.

I wouldn't force it on others unless their ideology was actively harming me. And even then, I'd still hope we could find a happy medium.

I'm hardcore in the sense that I'm not about to compromise on certain points. Ever.
German Nightmare
25-06-2007, 23:49
The word you were looking for was "belief".
Europa Maxima
26-06-2007, 00:18
Ideology is a disease of the mind.
Only if the mind accepts it passively and uncritically. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a unified set of beliefs, as long as you don't try forcing them on others.
Ariddia
26-06-2007, 00:18
Ideology is a disease of the mind.

An interesting definition of capitalism you have there. ;)

Hmm, well since my ideology is very much consensus-based, shoving it down people's throats won't work.

What she said.
South Lizasauria
26-06-2007, 04:45
An interesting definition of capitalism you have there. ;)


Capitalism is a disease. It destroys every unselfish aspect of the human soul.
Ancap Paradise
26-06-2007, 04:49
An interesting definition of socialism you have there. ;)

Fixed. :D
Nouvelle Wallonochia
26-06-2007, 05:49
Is it really an ideology if it is absolutely true? I mean, nobody calls me an ideologue when I say the earth is round.

These people would.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_earth_society
Indescribable Angels
26-06-2007, 05:53
I don't believe you can force your beliefs upon anyone, it's wrong. all you can do is let the m know and allow them to make up their own mind. I am willing to defend my beliefs, but I would never force them to someone else. Each person is free to believe whatever he or she chooses.
New Stalinberg
26-06-2007, 06:17
When you have mastered the nunchucks, you cannot be killed…

Heh, the path of using the art of nunchaku is a long road indeed.
Kyronea
26-06-2007, 06:25
How far are you willing to go to spread or defend your ideology?

Are you willing to fight for it, do you constantly try to force it down everyone else's throat, or are you silent about it?

Poll coming
Seeing as how my core beliefs are centred about being able to do what one wishes so long as one does not harm another directly, I'd have to say that fighting and dying for said beliefs would be the last thing on my mind.
Lunatic Goofballs
26-06-2007, 07:10
I have gone to exraordinary lengths to make people laugh. But I draw the line at killing myself for a laugh. Mainly because If I fuck it up, I don't get to try again. :p
Greater Trostia
26-06-2007, 07:13
Pretty hardcore, but not as much as it could be. The sex is real, but you rarely see the good parts. Mostly just shaky cam shots of my hairy arse.
[NS]Schrandtopia
26-06-2007, 07:39
I would take a bullit for the Pope
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
26-06-2007, 07:45
I voted for three of the four options (all but the throat-shoving).

Basically, I'd die for the most basic beliefs (freedom of speech, assembly, religion) but not over who becomes the next town dogcatcher. It has to be something important. :p I also voted the 'live-and-let-live' option, because so long as no one's threatening our basic liberties, I think people should be free to endorse almost any political position. Pretty common sense in my view. :p
Zilam
26-06-2007, 08:01
Schrandtopia;12813839']I would take a bullit for the Pope

Good. For second, I thought you were going to take a bullet. ;)

As for the thread topic, I will die for my beliefs, defend them verbally, but not kill or be violent towards others over them.
Ultraviolent Radiation
26-06-2007, 22:41
Only if the mind accepts it passively and uncritically. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a unified set of beliefs, as long as you don't try forcing them on others.
The way I see it, ideologies are just pre-compiled sets of rules that people blindly claim will make the world a better place, regardless of any circumstances. They are mentally lazy and would rather not have to actually look at the problems of the world and work out solutions.

An interesting definition of capitalism you have there. ;)

What do you mean? For the record, I am neither capitalist, nor socialist.
Chumblywumbly
26-06-2007, 22:46
Schrandtopia;12813839']I would take a bullit for the Pope
I too would watch Bullit for the current Pope, or indeed any Pontiff.
Ghost Tigers Rise
26-06-2007, 22:47
I too would watch Bullit for the current Pope, or indeed any Pontiff.

Huh, never heard of Bullit.

But I would definitely watch Bullitt. :D
Ifreann
26-06-2007, 22:53
Not dying is an important part of my beliefs, so I can't really die for them.
Europa Maxima
27-06-2007, 02:50
The way I see it, ideologies are just pre-compiled sets of rules that people blindly claim will make the world a better place, regardless of any circumstances. They are mentally lazy and would rather not have to actually look at the problems of the world and work out solutions.
Only if you uncritically accept them. Otherwise this does not hold true.
Lord Raug
27-06-2007, 02:56
Capitalism is a disease. It destroys every unselfish aspect of the human soul.

Thank God.

It's ok if you don't agree with my ideology. I mean after all nobody is perfect.
Vittos the City Sacker
27-06-2007, 03:25
Ideology is a disease of the mind.

That sounds like the sort of hyperbole that might come from an ideologue.

In the end, all of these individuals who claim to only have ideas and not an ideology are just as likely to be callous in their reasons as an ideologue. It takes a far greater amount of thought to determine those underlying trends which are going to define your principles than to simply rely on "common sense" from scenario to scenario.

As for me, my ideology becomes stronger all the time (even though it also becomes a little muddier all of the time), but my only vent is online discussion. I don't know a single soul with whom I would share my ideas.
Europa Maxima
27-06-2007, 03:33
As for me, my ideology becomes stronger all the time (even though it also becomes a little muddier all of the time), but my only vent is online discussion. I don't know a single soul with whom I would share my ideas.
Likewise so far as my offline life is concerned.
VanBuren
27-06-2007, 04:38
It's funny because you used a noob smiley. :rolleyes:

True story: I was so upset about missing the opportunity to use a noob smiley in my first post, that I edited it just to have one.

'Course I only had about 13 posts by that point, so...
Andaluciae
27-06-2007, 04:40
I would fight and die for my beliefs, if it came to that, but those circumstances are more than a mite bit extreme.
Jeuna
27-06-2007, 05:30
As far as religion goes, yes I'm willing to die for it. Political ideology, on the other hand, I wouldn't die for: I have a hard enough time deciding whether or not I'm actually a libertarian socialist or a libertarian who likes capitalism to defend my opinions in that respect to that extent.
Secret aj man
27-06-2007, 05:56
How far are you willing to go to spread or defend your ideology?

Are you willing to fight for it, do you constantly try to force it down everyone else's throat, or are you silent about it?

Poll coming

extremists from both sides have landed us in this polarized society we live in,be it political or religous,it is stupid and damaging to us all.i want to live my stupid life without you putting your shit on me,just as i dont want live by sharia law,i dont want corporate hegemony over me.