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Due to the really simple fact that I'm bored, I've decided to see where my fellow U.S. NS-ers let their support fall for the 2008 Presidential election.

Yes, this has been done before. But I don't really feel like searcing the backlog for old threads, so I'm simply restarting one. Also, opinions change, and I'm really only interested in what people are thinking right now.

That being said, I decided to include a poll listing the top 8 front-runners, along with the obligatory "Vote For ZOD!" option which Zod supporters (such as myself) must include, and the "miscellaneous/I'm a Republican/Waffles!" option.

I'm not allowed to vote in your country, so I chose other.

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so I vote "other"

If I could vote, my vote would go to Mike Gravel. He's such an atypical American candidate. He's actually got... good ideas.

Jimmy Carter could run for a second term, right?

So, "Other".

Jimmy Carter could run for a second term, right?

So, "Other".

Wasn't he one of the more unpopular presidents?

I hear Tony Blair is still available for a job ;)

Vladimir Putin

I hear Tony Blair is still available for a job ;)

He's British Born. He's barred from the presidency.

Wasn't he one of the more unpopular presidents?
Carter was the most unpopular, until recently. That doesn't necessarily mean he was a bad person, though; there was a hostage situation that wasn't his fault and I think he didn't seem strong enough for the Cold War-era Americans (i.e. he didn't violate human rights).
Has anyone seen Mike Gravel's video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZdAB4V_j8)? It's...interesting.

Carter was the most unpopular, until recently. That doesn't necessarily mean he was a bad person, though; there was a hostage situation that wasn't his fault and I think he didn't seem strong enough for the Cold War-era Americans (i.e. he didn't violate human rights).
Has anyone seen Mike Gravel's video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZdAB4V_j8)? It's...interesting.

I was just asking. :)

He's British Born. He's barred from the presidency.

like silly things like electoral laws ever stopped the Freemasons!

Wasn't he one of the more unpopular presidents?

But one of the more popular ex-presidents!

Has anyone else saw the Newsweek cover saying 'After Bush'?

Well, I have the answer, 'More Bush!'

Lets get Bush Senior out there, Gates is already in the Pentagon, so it'll be old school again.

Lacking that, Putin.

Barack. Failing that, Edwards. Failing that, Hillary.

And if they're to be beaten, I vote Zombie FDR.

As a straight-ticket Republican voter, I won't be casting any ballots for any of them. But if I could have my way, the Dem nominee would be B. Hussein Obama. If he got the nod, November '08 would see the first 50-state sweep for the GOP :D

As a straight-ticket Republican voter, I won't be casting any ballots for any of them. But if I could have my way, the Dem nominee would be B. Hussein Obama. If he got the nod, November '08 would see the first 50-state sweep for the GOP :D

Silly little bigot (and did you know that even Shill O'Bilely dropped the "Hussein" meme a while ago), Obama beats every one of the Bush-clones that the Republicans are running for office in national polling. Like every other Dem.

Do I really need to say it? ;) *points to sig*

As a straight-ticket Republican voter, I won't be casting any ballots for any of them. But if I could have my way, the Dem nominee would be B. Hussein Obama. If he got the nod, November '08 would see the first 50-state sweep for the GOP :D

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As a straight-ticket Republican voter, I won't be casting any ballots for any of them. But if I could have my way, the Dem nominee would be B. Hussein Obama. If he got the nod, November '08 would see the first 50-state sweep for the GOP :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election%2C_2008

Yes?

Wasn't he one of the more unpopular presidents?

Who cares?

Jimmy Carter is the best ex president ever!

YEAH! POST #2000!!!!

USA! USA! USA!

*Waves American flag (http://www.ljmu.ac.uk/International/International_images/USA_flag.jpg)*

Kucinich

Obama. I can't vote in the primaries though (Unaffiliated). If he doesn't get it, I hope Edwards does). I can't stand Hillary, although it WOULD be nice to have a woman president for a change -- just not HER. If it comes down too it though, I'll be voting Democratic regardless unless they allow a good non-Libertarian 3rd party on my ballot (which they aren't, cause they didn't allow Nader on the last time).

As a straight-ticket Republican voter, I won't be casting any ballots for any of them. But if I could have my way, the Dem nominee would be B. Hussein Obama. If he got the nod, November '08 would see the first 50-state sweep for the GOP :D

A) the polls say differently

B) It's absolutely pathetic that you're still attempting to circulate that long since debunked accusation that Obama is a Muslim. Is this ridiculous taunt truly the best you can do?

Obama. I can't vote in the primaries though (Unaffiliated). If he doesn't get it, I hope Edwards does). I can't stand Hillary, although it WOULD be nice to have a woman president for a change -- just not HER. If it comes down too it though, I'll be voting Democratic regardless unless they allow a good non-Libertarian 3rd party on my ballot (which they aren't, cause they didn't allow Nader on the last time).

That's pretty much where I stand.

Barack. Failing that, Edwards. Failing that, Hillary.

And if they're to be beaten, I vote Zombie FDR.

Same.

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Silly little bigot (and did you know that even Shill O'Bilely dropped the "Hussein" meme a while ago), Obama beats every one of the Bush-clones that the Republicans are running for office in national polling. Like every other Dem.

Oh, let him have his moment. It won't last long.

Silly little bigot

Your personal opinion of me is unimportant. However, see the NSG policy concerning flames.

(and did you know that even Shill O'Bilely dropped the "Hussein" meme a while ago)

I'm not concerned with O'Reilly's terminology. Besides, my gal Ann Coulter uses the same terminology :p

Obama beats every one of the Bush-clones that the Republicans are running for office in national polling.

I guess the black civil rights establishment in South Carolina must not know anything, since they refused to back B. Hussein Obama for exactly the reason I stated.

Like every other Dem.

Keep telling yourself that. It'll make the eventual GOP victory that much more enjoyable :D

A) the polls say differently

They say all kinds of things. The only poll that counts will be next November.

B) It's absolutely pathetic that you're still attempting to circulate that long since debunked accusation that Obama is a Muslim. Is this ridiculous taunt truly the best you can do?

It's his name. Deal with it. And what you consider "debunking" likely falls far short of the mark. Questions remain concerning his background.

Your personal opinion of me is unimportant. However, see the NSG policy concerning flames.

Sorry, calling someone out on their bigotry has never been banned on NSG.

Dennis Kucinich is my favorite.

They say all kinds of things. The only poll that counts will be next November.



It's his name. Deal with it. And what you consider "debunking" likely falls far short of the mark. Questions remain concerning his background.

I am fuly aware of his name. So? Just exactly what "questions" remain concerning his background? And likely falls short of the mark? You don't have any proof at all do you? Yes, it's been debunked. Here are some links to that effect:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/01/obama.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2822061


Why do you insist on this asinine faux arguement? Do you think you're being funny or clever? I assure you, you aren't.

Your personal opinion of me is unimportant. However, see the NSG policy concerning flames.

Flame, nothin'. You, and everyone else who plays up Obama's middle name in an attempt to conjur up the fear and hate response are using bigotry as a political tool, and are bigots.


I'm not concerned with O'Reilly's terminology. Besides, my gal Ann Coulter uses the same terminology :p

And? It's blatantly playing for the biggot vote. I wish the GOP well in expanding it's irelevance. Hopefully, we may someday be rid of them.

I guess the black civil rights establishment in South Carolina must not know anything, since they refused to back B. Hussein Obama for exactly the reason I stated.

Obama leads in South Carolina.

Keep telling yourself that. It'll make the eventual GOP victory that much more enjoyable :D

You must still be looking at Karl Rove's polls from last November. He thought the 'thugs would win that one, too, but they were crushed.

Thank Vishnu that most people know what they're doing and support Barrack. I hope it becomes more and more obvious during the campaign that Obama is the only Democratic candidate with a chance to beat McCain, Giuliani, or (gasp) a McCain-Guiliani dream ticket.

Mind you, this is coming from a rather militant independent. I just think that it's better for the country right now if the Democratic party wins the presidency. Plus, I think Obama is the single best choice for President, from either party, closely followed by McCain and Giuliani.

Plus, Hilary Clinton is the spawn of Satan.

Obama leads in South Carolina.

The black leadership endorsed Hill o' Beans Clinton over B. Hussein Obama after concluding that, if BHO were to win the Donkocrat nomination, Donkocrat candidates nationwide would go down in defeat along with him. Fact.

BHO's current lead in SC, to the extent the polls showing such a lead are accurate, only shows that a plurality of likely Donkocrat voters in SC support him. It says nothing about the accuracy of the black leaderships' perception of the results of a BHO nomination.

You must still be looking at Karl Rove's polls from last November. He thought the 'thugs would win that one, too, but they were crushed.

A slim majority in the Senate (which will disappear if Joe Lieberman ever leaves the party that has already backstabbed him) and a House turnover well within historic 6-year incumbent-party losses is only a "crushing" victory to resentful and self-deluding Donkocrats. No "mandate", pal.

I repeat: the GOP victory in '08 will be all the more enjoyable considering how many Donkocrats think they're going to win.

The black leadership endorsed Hill o' Beans Clinton over B. Hussein Obama after concluding that, if BHO were to win the Donkocrat nomination, Donkocrat candidates nationwide would go down in defeat along with him. Fact.
Tell me--just how powerful is the South Carolina democratic party right now? I think they've been feeling some lean years lately. I wouldn't exactly go by what their leadership is saying in a national race.

BHO's current lead in SC, to the extent the polls showing such a lead are accurate, only shows that a plurality of likely Donkocrat voters in SC support him. It says nothing about the accuracy of the black leaderships' perception of the results of a BHO nomination.
Actually, at this point in the race, it says jack shit about jack shit. We're still 8 months from the South Carolina primary.


A slim majority in the Senate (which will disappear if Joe Lieberman ever leaves the party that has already backstabbed him) and a House turnover well within historic 6-year incumbent-party losses is only a "crushing" victory to resentful and self-deluding Donkocrats. No "mandate", pal. Republicans have to defend 21 seats in 2008, and it's unlikely they will hold them all, especially in a year where the Republican candidates for president are, ahem, uninspiring and the current president is at 26% approval. Not good omens for Republican pickups. My guess is that when the new Senate convenes in 2009, the Democratic leadership can tell Joe Lieberman to take a flying fuck at a rolling donut and still have a greater majority than they do now.

I repeat: the GOP victory in '08 will be all the more enjoyable considering how many Donkocrats think they're going to win.

All I know is that I'd rather be in my party's position than yours. But hey--I admire your optimism. It's about as accurate an assessment as your views on global warming, but at least you're consistent.

The black leadership endorsed Hill o' Beans Clinton over B. Hussein Obama after concluding that, if BHO were to win the Donkocrat nomination, Donkocrat candidates nationwide would go down in defeat along with him. Fact.

BHO's current lead in SC, to the extent the polls showing such a lead are accurate, only shows that a plurality of likely Donkocrat voters in SC support him. It says nothing about the accuracy of the black leaderships' perception of the results of a BHO nomination.

Or it shows that they, like most Americans beleive that Hillary is the winner by default of the election and that they wanted to curry as much favor as possible.

A slim majority in the Senate (which will disappear if Joe Lieberman ever leaves the party that has already backstabbed him) and a House turnover well within historic 6-year incumbent-party losses is only a "crushing" victory to resentful and self-deluding Donkocrats. No "mandate", pal.

I repeat: the GOP victory in '08 will be all the more enjoyable considering how many Donkocrats think they're going to win.

Definite fucking mandate. When a massive majority of Americans said that they voted along the lines of the Iraq war and corruption, and felt that the 'thugs had fucked both of those up so bad that they were unrecognizable, that was a mandate. When the GOP didn't win a single race against a Democratic Incumbent, that was a mandate.

And as for Joementum, fuck him, you can have him. He can go to the party that he's been a member of since 2004 and he can stay there. He should fit right in with loonies like McCain, Giulliani, and Vilsack. We'll take his seat back twice over when we win in Maine and Oregon without breaking a sweat.

The black leadership endorsed Hill o' Beans Clinton over B. Hussein Obama after concluding that, if BHO were to win the Donkocrat nomination, Donkocrat candidates nationwide would go down in defeat along with him. Fact.

BHO's current lead in SC, to the extent the polls showing such a lead are accurate, only shows that a plurality of likely Donkocrat voters in SC support him. It says nothing about the accuracy of the black leaderships' perception of the results of a BHO nomination.



A slim majority in the Senate (which will disappear if Joe Lieberman ever leaves the party that has already backstabbed him) and a House turnover well within historic 6-year incumbent-party losses is only a "crushing" victory to resentful and self-deluding Donkocrats. No "mandate", pal.

I repeat: the GOP victory in '08 will be all the more enjoyable considering how many Donkocrats think they're going to win.

Please, just shut up, just shut up, and people wonder why I'm a Libertarian and not a Republican.

Here's a piece of advice, name calling do not win you debates!

Do I really need to say it? ;) *points to sig*

Doesn't quite answer the question of which democrat you'd least hate to see elected. :p

Me, I guess I'd be least disgusted to see a guy like Richardson sworn in, or perhaps Gavel, though I haven't read up thoroughly on him yet. But hopefully, we'll have a good Republican taking the oath instead of any of them. :)

Doesn't quite answer the question of which democrat you'd least hate to see elected. :p

Me, I guess I'd be least disgusted to see a guy like Richardson sworn in, or perhaps Gavel, though I haven't read up thoroughly on him yet. But hopefully, we'll have a good Republican taking the oath instead of any of them. :)

Eh, least, I would have to say either Edwards or Obama. The day the Democrats select Hillary is the day they can expect great losses, in both the White House, and Congress.

I'll have to endorse the candidate with the silliest last name. President Obama is okay, and President Dodd is kind of nice, but so far, Preident Gravel is the best. *nod*

Pity there isn't someone with the name, Shipupi running. President Shipupi would get my vote in a heartbeat! :)

I'll have to endorse the candidate with the silliest last name. President Obama is okay, and President Dodd is kind of nice, but so far, Preident Gravel is the best. *nod*

Pity there isn't someone with the name, Shipupi running. President Shipupi would get my vote in a heartbeat! :)

How about President Johnson? or President Dick, had to be done.

How about President Johnson? or President Dick, had to be done.

President !xobile :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj-1kp777NM

President !xobile :D

President 4Real!

fred Thompson For President

Eh, least, I would have to say either Edwards or Obama. The day the Democrats select Hillary is the day they can expect great losses, in both the White House, and Congress.

I kinda see Obama as equally "out there" in comparison to Hillary, but beyond that, I agree that the public might quail after a few years of having a fringe liberal calling the shots. I'd rather we didn't need to score on the rebound, as it were, by riding the backlash. Hopefully the GOP will field a good candidate and we can avoid it. :)

fred Thompson For President

Yes, spammer dear, you have the right idea. We're talking about the '08 election here. Now, if you read the title, you might see that we're talking about Democrats, not Republicans. I hope that you do realize that he's a Republican, as well as being a shitty actor.

According to this candidate-match quiz: http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/senate2006.asp?quiz=2008

I like Kucinich the best, followed by Clinton.

Not that anyone actually knows who Kucinich is, and not that he has a ghost of a chance of winning, but I agree with his views the most. He has a socialist-leaning common-good sort of rhetoric that appeals to me. Also, a lot of his actions made me actually believe that there is such thing as an honest politician...or a politician with principles, someone who stays true to their beliefs rather than what they think the voting population's beliefs are. For example, trying to impeach Dick Cheney because he thought it was his duty to hold the VP accountable even though it'd certainly not be a popular thing to do and would not help his political career. Or letting the city of Cincinnati go into default in order to keep the public lighting utility after a large corporation conspired with banks in order to try to gain a monopoly...again an action that ruined his chances of ever becoming president, but ultimately saved the city's citizens millions in the long run.

It pains me that I'll probably end up voting for Clinton if she makes it, because I'm still annoyed that she took one of my state's senate seats after just living here the bare minimum you need to to be eligible to run for office. You're not a real New Yorker Hillary! dry.gif But one of her major issues is striving for universal healthcare, which is something I strongly agree with, so pettiness aside, I think her basic platform is the most decent of the major ones I'm familiar with.

well the thing is, i don't want to jinx any of them. the last time anyone i would have picked got nominated was jfk.

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well the thing is, i don't want to jinx any of them. the last time anyone i would have picked got nominated was jfk.

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You would have picked Goldwater over LBJ?

Due to the really simple fact that I'm bored, I've decided to see where my fellow U.S. NS-ers let their support fall for the 2008 Presidential election.

Yes, this has been done before. But I don't really feel like searcing the backlog for old threads, so I'm simply restarting one. Also, opinions change, and I'm really only interested in what people are thinking right now.

That being said, I decided to include a poll listing the top 8 front-runners, along with the obligatory "Vote For ZOD!" option which Zod supporters (such as myself) must include, and the "miscellaneous/I'm a Republican/Waffles!" option.

Clinton has a better sense of humor, but Obama is very stately. So I don't know.

I'm partial to Richardson, myself.

Al Gore.

Al Gore.

Is he running? :eek:

Is he running? :eek:

No.:(

No.:(

Damn.