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They were fucking terrible. I felt like I was going to pass out for a whole hour, everyone else was going crazy. I don't know, it was an extremely strange experience (by strange i mean the bad kind). Anyone else tried hash cakes? Did it go badly?

When prepared to a substandard quality, ground meat can always go wrong.

I assume you don't mean corned beef hash. :p

I assume you don't mean corned beef hash. :p

No I mean the magic hash :p

But I hate corned beef too!! It's sick!! But thats another thread.

I've tried them, yeah, and had no major ill effects. Though the person making the hash cakes was fairly experienced and explained that it takes far less hash for the same effect than smoking, so if you put just as much (or more) hash in your cakes than you'd have otherwise smoked you probably had way too much.

They were fucking terrible. I felt like I was going to pass out for a whole hour, everyone else was going crazy. I don't know, it was an extremely strange experience (by strange i mean the bad kind). Anyone else tried hash cakes? Did it go badly?

I love hash, especially corned beef hash with eggs. Yummy. My dad used to put catsup on his hash, ugh. I don't like catsup.

I assume you don't mean corned beef hash. :p

You can also make hash from roast beef, not as good as corned beef hash though.

I've tried them, yeah, and had no major ill effects. Though the person making the hash cakes was fairly experienced and explained that it takes far less hash for the same effect than smoking, so if you put just as much (or more) hash in your cakes than you'd have otherwise smoked you probably had way too much.

:eek:Oh, THAT kind of hash cakes. Maybe you should try some catsup on them. :p

I've tried them, yeah, and had no major ill effects. Though the person making the hash cakes was fairly experienced and explained that it takes far less hash for the same effect than smoking, so if you put just as much (or more) hash in your cakes than you'd have otherwise smoked you probably had way too much.

How does that work? I would have thought smoking it would introduce more of the active ingredient into your system than eating it

How does that work? I would have thought smoking it would introduce more of the active ingredient into your system than eating it

the main thing is it's unreliable how much will get absorbed whereas when you're smoking it it's easier to judge the 'dosage' as it were (and you can alter how much you take in my how long you hold it in your lungs and how hard you toke, eating it's different cuz you don't know the concentration in the bit you're eating). i'm not sure of the chemistry/biology of it though.

I'm probably the only person I know (Besides the Mormons of course) that doesn't drink or do drugs.

Needless to say, I don't plan on smoking or eating hash.

Oh, THAT kind of hash cakes. Maybe you should try some catsup on them.

WTF is catsup?

How does that work? I would have thought smoking it would introduce more of the active ingredient into your system than eating it

A large portion of active cannabinoids are destroyed when you burn it. That's why vaporizers are much, much more effective (and healthier too). When you eat it you absord it more slowly but it's far more efficient. It will also last several times longer.

"Never Eat Shredded Wheat"

Hash cakes are very good, but you have to be ready for them. They come on slowly & power on for hours. Not like a joint/bong, which is pretty much instaneous.

we've made hash cookies a few times at uni. i think it depends on whether or not you're expecting it, as you can get very, very stoned with them.

example: we made space cookies, ate one each, and after an hour were still waiting for something. so we ate another. another hour later my friends and i were amazingly high and enjoying it :p however one friend who had never toked before felt really ill, got very paranoid and had to go home.

example 2: i made cookies another time for my flatmates, most of whom were wholly inexperienced with weed. one of them ate a cookie and spent the next couple of hours writhing around on his bed asking people how he got to Blackpool :p no idea what kind of 'trip' he was on.


point is, both times myself and stoner friends were fine and enjoyed it. i would say hash cakes are fine if you know what to expect and know that they take a while to kick in :)

For some reason, I keep thinking of the Frasier episode where Niles thinks he is high.

I had hash brownies in amsterdam and they were wonderful.

They were fucking terrible. I felt like I was going to pass out for a whole hour, everyone else was going crazy. I don't know, it was an extremely strange experience (by strange i mean the bad kind). Anyone else tried hash cakes? Did it go badly?

At first yeah,... I must agree that fire breathing monster papaya tree with eleven (I counted) hamster heads was rather shocking the first time. (Must've been spiked with something else tho)

After a few experimentation of higher types of hallucinogenic (the last one was Lucy with diamonds in her eyes... hah the Beatles) I gets more weirder and since my line of work requires a massive amount of imagination, it gets more and more grandeur (complex).

One of most ... profane ... hallucination is a complex sequence of patterns that communicated with me through a random sequence of colors and forms,... oh and this one spits venomous rants on how the aliens are mind controlling conservative people.

For some reason, I keep thinking of the Frasier episode where Niles thinks he is high.

3rd best episode after Ham Radio and... that other one i can't remember now :P

Hash cakes are great :) Once I ate them in the evening.. got stoned and in the morning when I woke up there was no breakfast except for... So I got stoned again :D

I love them. Though I prefer hash brownies. The body stone is fantastic, long-lasting, and even, with a very mild burn. Never had a bad experience.

Then again, I tend not to hallucinate to the extent that other people do. Or not react as extremely.

WTF is catsup?

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-illinois/GiantCatsup.jpg

3rd best episode after Ham Radio and... that other one i can't remember now :P

"I'm thinking of pairing this Chilean sea bass with an aggressive Zinfandel!"

I love them. Though I prefer hash brownies. The body stone is fantastic, long-lasting, and even, with a very mild burn. Never had a bad experience.

Then again, I tend not to hallucinate to the extent that other people do. Or not react as extremely.

I love the way people talk about weed. It always has a touch of the connoisseur about it

You didn't fall for the 'ol 'Eat a whole cake, get impatient and down another one', Did you? If so, no one to blame but yourself. They take some time to get working and you should always start with small sections of them over a period of time until you reach a level of stoned that works for you. Otherwise, yeah, they can be unpleasant. I had Space Tea in Amsterdam and was surprised at how delicious the flavour was - Didn't seem to work too well, though.

I'm probably the only person I know (Besides the Mormons of course) that doesn't drink or do drugs.

Needless to say, I don't plan on smoking or eating hash.

you're not alone. :)

Wow. A whole thread on hash. NS has reached a new low. (High)
EDIT: Ok, that was obvious. High. HIGH!

Wow. A whole thread on hash. NS has reached a new low.

You fucked up the line. Clearly, NS has reached a new 'high'.

That was so simple...how on earth did you miss it?

Wow. A whole thread on hash. NS has reached a new low.

Or a new high? :D

Blast you, Neesika!!
Blast you!!

I love the way people talk about weed. It always has a touch of the connoisseur about it

As it should. Like a fine wine, weed has various characteristics that should be noted, and enjoyed. The bouquet for example, may very from a sage-like scent to a raw, overpowering skunk-like smell. Held up to the light, the buds may range from a gold-green to a red-green colour, even with hints of lilac or deep purple. Smoked, the taste can be subtle, or bold, and the after-taste can remind one of pepper, mint, or sweaty gym socks.

I'm not even going to get into the delights of different varieties of hash.

As it should. Like a fine wine, weed has various characteristics that should be noted, and enjoyed. The bouquet for example, may very from a sage-like scent to a raw, overpowering skunk-like smell. Held up to the light, the buds may range from a gold-green to a red-green colour, even with hints of lilac or deep purple. Smoked, the taste can be subtle, or bold, and the after-taste can remind one of pepper, mint, or sweaty gym socks.

I'm not even going to get into the delights of different varieties of hash.
Indeed... Although to really appreciate the different varieties, you have to be somewhere they're legal and available. Otherwise, you essentially take what you can get.

Blast you, Neesika!!
Blast you!!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

You fucked up the line. Clearly, NS has reached a new 'high'.

That was so simple...how on earth did you miss it?


We're an all time high,
We'll change all that's gone before.
Doing so much more than falling in love.
On an all time high,
We'll take on the world and wait.
So hold on tight, let the flight begin...


see, and no drugs needed! :p

We're an all time high,
We'll change all that's gone before.
Doing so much more than falling in love.
On an all time high,
We'll take on the world and wait.
So hold on tight, let the flight begin...


see, and no drugs needed! :p

You live in Hawaii, and you don't sample the copious quantities of botanicals that grow freely there? I weep for you.

Otherwise, you essentially take what you can get.

That just makes you appreciate it all the more when you get something decent.

That just makes you appreciate it all the more when you get something decent.
If you can even get something decent. Hash isn't even available in my town, and the grass is good, but nothing compared to the knock-out stuff I had in Germany, which was also dwarfed by the sheer power of the Amsterdam weed. I was sitting in a coffeeshop, my first day there, smoking with my buddies, and I zoned out of the conversation into my own thoughts for ten minutes or so. I latched onto the conversation of three middle aged people in the coffeeshop with us, and for the life of me I couldn't make any sense of it. There were little snippets of conversation, in themselves making sense, but I'd put them together and they meant nothing. I heard them saying phrases in a perfect, High class british accent like;
"He makes about ten pounds a week"
"And then I went down to the shop to get some eggs and cheese"
And so on, lots of bizarre phrases that seemed to be utterly unrelated to each other and extremely banal. I turned to the Germans with me and asked them if they could understand any of the conversation and try to figure out the context, but after listening for several minutes, they said;
"Uhhh... They're speaking in Dutch. We can't understand it."
I couldn't believe it and listened again, and I could still hear them talking in high class english. I started mimicking the phrases I heard at the same time, and suddenly they all laughed because they could hear them too! The weirdest bit was how persistent the illusion was. Even though I knew they were speaking in Dutch and a lot of clues were pointing to this, I still heard English. That was the most stoned I have ever been.

You live in Hawaii, and you don't sample the copious quantities of botanicals that grow freely there? I weep for you.

the rumors of "the Copious quantities of Botanicals that grow freely there" is greatly exaggerated.




they aren't free. ;)

the rumors of "the Copious quantities of Botanicals that grow freely there" is greatly exaggerated.




they aren't free. ;)
*Crosses Hawaii off his vacation travel plans and replaces it with Jamaica*

Nope. When you inhale the smoke, only maybe 5% of the THC in it is absorbed before you exhale. With hash cakes, ALL the THC in the hash is absorbed.
Well, not all. Bioavailability is never 100%.

How does that work? I would have thought smoking it would introduce more of the active ingredient into your system than eating it

Nope. When you inhale the smoke, only maybe 5% of the THC in it is absorbed before you exhale. With hash cakes, ALL the THC in the hash is absorbed.

Well, not all. Bioavailability is never 100%.

Of course I'm exaggerating, but it was merely to compare the vast differences in absorption. The act of cooking the cakes themselves breaks down some THC.

Of course I'm exaggerating, but it was merely to compare the vast differences in absorption. The act of cooking the cakes themselves breaks down some THC.

Yeah, I'm just a nitpicker ;) Sorry.

They were fucking terrible. I felt like I was going to pass out for a whole hour, everyone else was going crazy. I don't know, it was an extremely strange experience (by strange i mean the bad kind). Anyone else tried hash cakes? Did it go badly?

I quite agree. Hash cakes are an offense to Allah (also I tried them once and threw up as a result, which did not endear them to me further).

I quite agree. Hash cakes are an offense to Allah (also I tried them once and threw up as a result, which did not endear them to me further).
How can they be an offense to Allah if he made them?

How can they be an offense to Allah if he made them?

Silence, infidel, Allah uses a bong only.

Silence, infidel, Allah uses a bong only.

If I didn't like my sig, I would take that and preserve it for eternity, you loveable bastard. :p

Screw it. I had to. Unless you mind, in which case I'll remove it.

Screw it. I had to. Unless you mind, in which case I'll remove it.

Quite the contrary ... only 17 posts and I am sigged. This kicks ass. :)

Quite the contrary ... only 17 posts and I am sigged. This kicks ass. :)
No kidding. 'tis an honour indeed...

Quite the contrary ... only 17 posts and I am sigged. This kicks ass. :)

Lucky Bastard :p and I mean that in the nicest possible way

No kidding. 'tis an honour indeed...
And I don't mean it's an honour to be sigged by me, in case there's a misunderstanding. I just mean in general - I wish I was witty enough to be sigged.

This thread has made me want to eat hash cakes, I didn't really like smoking but that probably has something to do with the asthma attacks and the absence of other effects. I live withing walking distance from the Netherlands though, so that won't really be a problem, maybe after the exams.

This thread has made me want to eat hash cakes, I didn't really like smoking but that probably has something to do with the asthma attacks and the absence of other effects. I live withing walking distance from the Netherlands though, so that won't really be a problem, maybe after the exams.
It's funny 'cause it's true. :eek:
Maybe if weed doesn't affect you well, you should try a low dose of magic mushrooms at first. Very hard to have a bad trip on a low dose, and the world it takes you to is indescribably beautiful. It's not full-blown hallucinations on low doses by any means, but it feels like you're in a movie; perfect vision of every drop of dew glistening on blades of grass, beautiful bright colours... It's just wonderful. And contrary to what other people think, simply liking the effect doesn't mean you drop everything and refuse to notice beauty when you're not intoxicated - music for me is noticeably more exquisite and moving, and I haven't touched a substance in months.

How does that work? I would have thought smoking it would introduce more of the active ingredient into your system than eating it

I think cooking it makes it stronger somehow.

which was also dwarfed by the sheer power of the Amsterdam weed.

"I'll take the Pepsi Challenge with Amsterdam shit any ol' day of the fuckin' week."

I think cooking it makes it stronger somehow.
THC has to be heated before it becomes active, which is why you can cook it or smoke it but cannot just take a bud and munch on it and expect it to work.

It's funny 'cause it's true. :eek:
Maybe if weed doesn't affect you well, you should try a low dose of magic mushrooms at first. Very hard to have a bad trip on a low dose, and the world it takes you to is indescribably beautiful. It's not full-blown hallucinations on low doses by any means, but it feels like you're in a movie; perfect vision of every drop of dew glistening on blades of grass, beautiful bright colours... It's just wonderful. And contrary to what other people think, simply liking the effect doesn't mean you drop everything and refuse to notice beauty when you're not intoxicated - music for me is noticeably more exquisite and moving, and I haven't touched a substance in months.

well, the first time it didn't have any noticeable effect and the second time i got an asthma attack and i just felt a little bit weak and quite relaxed, but it wasn't really that impressive and the effects could also be because i might have used a little bit to much inhaler (choking isn't fun :p). After that i didn't really try to inhale anything.
I might try some mushrooms, it's something that I've already considered but never has happened and space cake is easier to get (there's a bus to a coffee shop a few km away from my house)

This thread has made me want to eat hash cakes, I didn't really like smoking but that probably has something to do with the asthma attacks and the absence of other effects. I live withing walking distance from the Netherlands though, so that won't really be a problem, maybe after the exams.

One thing though, I'm wondering if Zeeuws-Vlaanderen (dutch area near isidoor afaik) has any coffeeshops. Maybe one or two?

well, the first time it didn't have any noticeable effect and the second time i got an asthma attack and i just felt a little bit weak and quite relaxed, but it wasn't really that impressive and the effects could also be because i might have used a little bit to much inhaler (choking isn't fun :p). After that i didn't really try to inhale anything.
I might try some mushrooms, it's something that I've already considered but never has happened and space cake is easier to get (there's a bus to a coffee shop a few km away from my house)
Ughh... I'm sorry to hear that - I have breathing problems, too, but they seem to be stress-related, because they're not allergies and my respirometry comes back 120% of normal, and it's not ashma. So, I know what you mean - it's a terrible feeling. Don't let me pressure you into doing weed - do it if and when it feels right to you. Hope it works out either way.

Ughh... I'm sorry to hear that - I have breathing problems, too, but they seem to be stress-related, because they're not allergies and my respirometry comes back 120% of normal, and it's not ashma. So, I know what you mean - it's a terrible feeling. Don't let me pressure you into doing weed - do it if and when it feels right to you. Hope it works out either way.

I assume you mean spirometry

I quite agree. Hash cakes are an offense to Allah (also I tried them once and threw up as a result, which did not endear them to me further).

Sovietstan? Did your nation get deleted?

I assume you mean spirometry
That I do.

Ughh... I'm sorry to hear that - I have breathing problems, too, but they seem to be stress-related, because they're not allergies and my respirometry comes back 120% of normal, and it's not ashma. So, I know what you mean - it's a terrible feeling. Don't let me pressure you into doing weed - do it if and when it feels right to you. Hope it works out either way.

oh, it's no big deal, actually it was the only non induced (by histamine) asthma attack i had, mostly it's just coughing and I haven't taken my medication for over a month or something and it hasn't come back, I think I'll stay away from smoking stuff though.
And I'm not really fast pressured to do drugs, almost all my friends have done way more than me. I have absolutely no problems with it but it just doesn't really appeal to me all that much, although I'd like to try a hallucinogenic some day.

That I do.

Sorry just being a picky bastard :)

Sorry just being a picky bastard :)

Nope. When you inhale the smoke, only maybe 5% of the THC in it is absorbed before you exhale. With hash cakes, ALL the THC in the hash is absorbed.
Well, not all. Bioavailability is never 100%.
Of course I'm exaggerating, but it was merely to compare the vast differences in absorption. The act of cooking the cakes themselves breaks down some THC.
Yeah, I'm just a nitpicker ;) Sorry.
A taste of my own medicine. :p

A taste of my own medicine. :p

Quote pyramids are just wrong. Plain wrong.

Quote pyramids are just wrong. Plain wrong.
It is ugly, isn't it? But I went to a bit of work making it, so I'm not destroying it!

It is ugly, isn't it? But I went to a bit of work making it, so I'm not destroying it!

As long as you realise you now have bad karma.

As long as you realise you now have bad karma.
*considers*.
What would be a better way to achieve the goal? just have them stacked on top of each other? anything but bad karma.

*considers*.
What would be a better way to achieve the goal? just have them stacked on top of each other? anything but bad karma.

Maybe you could write the dialogue in italic? Or you could add a prayer lasting a thousand words, stating how sorry you are whilst begging for mercy from the great God of...... Karma(?).

Better?

Well I don't feel as violated as I did before.

Maybe you could write the dialogue in italic? Or you could add a prayer lasting a thousand words, stating how sorry you are whilst begging for mercy from the great God of...... Karma(?).

Better?

THC has to be heated before it becomes active, which is why you can cook it or smoke it but cannot just take a bud and munch on it and expect it to work.

Not entirely true. Properly cured (dried and aged) marijuana is psychoactive when eaten as is. Heating does make more THC active and available to an extent, but burning actually destroys some of it.

Hahaha... yeah I've done 'em. Good times.

No I mean the magic hash :p

But I hate corned beef too!! It's sick!! But thats another thread.

There's definitely something wrong - with you, Hydesland. Both are delicious.

Not entirely true. Properly cured (dried and aged) marijuana is psychoactive when eaten as is. Heating does make more THC active and available to an extent, but burning actually destroys some of it.

Really? Huh.

Really? Huh.

Yes really, and again that's why vaporizers are so much better. If you heat it to just the right temperature you release all the terpenes and useful cannabinoids without combusting it. You also get no tar.

I vape and love it!

VapoBros all the way!


Well actually my heating element burned out so I need to send it in for a repair.

They were fucking terrible. I felt like I was going to pass out for a whole hour, everyone else was going crazy. I don't know, it was an extremely strange experience (by strange i mean the bad kind). Anyone else tried hash cakes? Did it go badly?
Your experience prob didn't go as badly as those two Mormons who were given some in Australia back in 1999.
They were door knocking and some dude who'd just made a fresh batch of dope cookies invited them in, and offered his wares to them. The greedy pig Mormons scoffed the lot (iirc one of them had like a dozen or more).
When riding off they were hit with a massive body stone and totally freaked out. Ended up in hospital
Dude got busted obviously.

Personally I feel a bit sorry for the Mormons - it would be frightening experiencing a body stone and not realise what/why. But then I also think they deserved it - they sat and ate the guy's entire cookie stash. That's totally out-of-order imo. You don't get invited into someone's house and then eat all their cookies. Greedy and poor form.

They were fucking terrible. I felt like I was going to pass out for a whole hour, everyone else was going crazy. I don't know, it was an extremely strange experience (by strange i mean the bad kind). Anyone else tried hash cakes? Did it go badly?

The think with the ole Canabis is that if you have a lot in a short go(like eating it) it will act like an hullucengen.

This thread has really made me want to pony up the cash for a vaporizer.

How much does a decent one run for nowadays? They used to be quite expensive, IIRC.

Just make your own (http://www.onlinepot.org/medical/vaporizer.htm). A decent one costs $100-200 if you buy a commercial model.