NationStates Jolt Archive


Racial stereotypes in ancient times

Markeliopia
22-06-2007, 20:07
I thought that this was fascinating so decided to share it

On morality (http://endingstereotypesforamerica.org/black_and_white_morality.html)

On intellect (http://endingstereotypesforamerica.org/black_and_white_intelligence.html)

On beauty (modern and ancient) (http://www.colorq.org/Articles/article.aspx?d=1999&x=blackwhite#encounters)

the races of man known to the Egyptians (http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/diop.html)

{p. 46} Let us start with the oldest of these theses, that of Champollion the Younger, set forth in the thirteenth letter to his brother. It concerns bas-reliefs on the tomb of Sesostris I, also visited by Rienzi. These date back to the sixteenth century B.C. (Eighteenth Dynasty) and represent the races of man known to the Egyptians. This monument is the oldest complete ethnological document available. Here is what Champollion says about it:

{quote} Right in the valley of Biban-el-Moluk, we admired, like all previous visitors, the astonishing freshness of the paintings and the fine sculptures on several tombs. I had a copy made of the peoples represented on the bas-reliefs. At first I had thought, from copies of these bas-reliefs published in England, that these peoples of different races led by the god Horus holding his shepherd's staff, were indeed nations subject to the rule of the Pharaohs. A study of the legends informed me that this tableau has a more general meaning. It portrays the third hour of the day, when the sun is beginning to turn on its burning rays, warming all the inhabited countries of our hemisphere. According to the legend itself, they wished to represent the inhabitants of Egypt and those of foreign lands. Thus we have before our eyes the image of the various races of man known to the Egyptians and we learn at the same time the great geographical or ethnographical divisions established during that early epoch. Men led by Horus, the shepherd of the peoples, belong to four distinct families. The first, the one closest to the god, has a dark red color, a well-proportioned body, kind face, nose slightly aquiline, long braided hair, and is dressed in white. The legends designate this species as Rot-en-ne-Rome, the race of men par excellence i.e., the Egyptians. There can be no uncertainty about the racial identity of the man who comes next: he belongs to the Black race, designated under the general term Nahasi. The third presents a very different aspect; his skin color borders on yellow or tan; he has a strongly aquiline nose, thick, black pointed beard, and wears a short garment of varied colors; these are called Namou. Finally, the last one is what we call flesh-colored, a white skin of the most delicate shade, a nose straight or slightly arched, blue eyes, blond or reddish beard, tall stature and very slender clad in a

{p. 47} hairy ox-skin, a veritable savage tattooed on various parts of his body; he is called Tamhou. I hastened to seek the tableau corresponding to this one in the other royal tombs and, as a matter of fact, I found it in several. The variations I observed fully convinced me that they had tried to represent here the inhabitants of the four corners of the earth, according to the Egyptian system, namely: 1. the inhabitants of Egypt which, by itself, formed one part of the world ...; 2. the inhabitants of Africa proper: Blacks; 3. Asians; 4. finally (and I am ashamed to say so, since our race is the last and the most savage in the series), Europeans who, in those remote epochs, frankly did not cut too fine a figure in the world. In this category we must include all blonds and white-skinned people living not only in Europe, but Asia as well, their starting point. This manner of viewing the tableau is all the more accurate because, on the other tombs, the same generic names reappear, always in the same order. We find there Egyptians and Africans represented in the same way, which could not be otherwise; but the Namou (the Asians) and the Tamhou (Europeans) present significant and curious variants. Instead of the Arab or the Jew, dressed simply and represented on one tomb, Asia's representatives on other tombs (those of Ramses II, etc.) are three individuals, tanned complexion, aquiline nose, black eyes, and thick beard, but clad in rare splendor. In one, they are evidently Assyrians, their costume, down to the smallest detail, is identical with that of personages engraved on Assyrian cylinders. In the other, are Medes or early inhabitants of some part of Persia. Their physiognomy and dress resemble, feature for feature, those found on monuments called Persepolitan. Thus, Asia was represented indiscriminately by any one of the peoples who inhabited it. The same is true of our good old ancestors, the Tamhou. Their attire is sometimes different; their heads are more or less hairy and adorned with various ornaments; their savage dress varies somewhat in form, but their white complexion, their eyes and beard all preserve the character of a race apart. I had this strange ethnographical series copied and colored. I certainly did not expect, on arriving at Biban-el-Moluk, to find sculptures that could serve as vignettes for the history of the primitive Europeans, if ever one has the courage to attempt it. Nevertheless, there is something flat-

{p. 48} tering and consoling in seeing them, since they make us appreciate the progress we have subsequently achieved. {endquote} {endnote 3: Champollion-Figeac, Egypte ancienne. Paris: Collection l'Univers, 1839, pp. 30-31. ...}


Clearly race is simply a social construct since attitudes have changed so much.

Now if you excuse me I'm going to put on my loin cloth and run through the forest screaming and sacking villages :D
Markeliopia
22-06-2007, 20:50
It's ok if I bump this just once right?
UNITIHU
22-06-2007, 20:52
Only because it's such a good find. It really is fascinating.
Sarkhaan
22-06-2007, 21:12
pretty interesting. But lose the gun smilies. They're obnoxious/n00bish.
Markeliopia
22-06-2007, 21:25
pretty interesting. But lose the gun smilies. They're obnoxious/n00bish.

lol it was kind of annoying, I deleted them
Sarkhaan
22-06-2007, 21:29
lol it was kind of annoying, I deleted them

:) Thank you.
Markeliopia
22-06-2007, 22:52
I found this interesting

In 1787 a Frenchman by the name of Count de Volney visited Egypt and was shocked and said the local population "have a bloated face, puffed-up eyes, flat nose, thick lips – in a word, the true face of the mulatto. I was tempted to attribute it to the climate, but when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says:

'As for me, I judge the Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black with woolly hair...' "In other words, the ancient Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native-born Africans. That being so, we can see how their blood, mixed for several centuries with that of the Greeks and Romans, must have lost the intensity of its original color, while retaining nonetheless the imprint of its original mold."

He went on to say in amazement "Just think, that this race of Black men, today our slave and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, sciences, and even the use of speech! Just imagine, finally, that it is in the midst of people (i.e., Americans) who call themselves the greatest friends of liberty and humanity that one has approved the most barbarous slavery, and questioned whether Black men have the same kind of intelligence as whites!"

http://freemaninstitute.com/sphinx.htm
Vetalia
23-06-2007, 00:05
I always wondered what the Romans' take was on the whole race thing. They always seemed like the type who didn't care so long as you followed the law and brought in money for the Empire.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
23-06-2007, 02:14
I was taught in school that racialism is quite old (belief that races exist, that is) but that racism (belief in superiority of one or the other) is relatively new - dating only to around 1500 A.D. Interesting article.
Marrakech II
23-06-2007, 02:30
I am thinking reparations are in order here.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
23-06-2007, 02:35
I am thinking reparations are in order here.

Hm. Let's see.. Millions of Roman slaves, two thousand years' worth of interest.. carry the one... sounds like a lot of dough. :p I guess the Italians had better get ready for some new taxes. :)