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Bin Laden may have helped family flee US
June 21, 2007 08:07am

OSAMA bin Laden may have chartered a plane that carried his family members and Saudi nationals out of the US after the September 11, 2001 attacks, the FBI says.

The papers, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, were made public by Judicial Watch, a Washington-based group that investigates government corruption.

One FBI document referred to a Ryan Air 727 airplane that departed Los Angeles International Airport on September 19, 2001, and was said to have carried Saudi nationals out of the US.

"The plane was chartered either by the Saudi Arabian royal family or Osama bin Laden,'' according to the document, which was among 224 pages posted online.

The flight made stops in Orlando, Florida; Washington, DC; and Boston, Massachusetts and eventually left its passengers in Paris the following day.

In all, the documents detail six flights between September 14 and September 24 that evacuated Saudi nationals and bin Laden family members, Judicial Watch said.

Sources: Yahoo/AFP/Herald and Weekly Times/OccNEWS
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21942468-5005961,00.html

meh... I think I am going to pull my Fahrenheit 911 DVD, and take a second look.

So?

Well if you're interested in Farenheit 9/11 then you may as well watch "loose change 2nd edition", which is available on google video, if you look properly. ^_~

While it may not necessarily be quite as authoritative a source as it makes out the movie certainly provides food for thought.

Well if you're interested in Farenheit 9/11 then you may as well watch "loose change 2nd edition", which is available on google video, if you look properly. ^_~

While it may not necessarily be quite as authoritative a source as it makes out the movie certainly provides food for thought.

God...don't actually suggest that he watch "Loose Change", the only documentary that has more holes than Fahrenheit 9/11 and Bowling for Columbine combined.

Why would he bother? The government was already seeing them out. Besides I thought he didn't speak to his family? What does he care?

Why would he bother?dont know, maybe because he has strong family values. Like all Semites.


I thought he didn't speak to his family?strong family values like all Semites. even if they are not talking to each other.


What does he care?strong family values like all Semites.


The government was already seeing them out.well, looks like this news report is questioning that theory.

Wouldn't be surprised.


Well, maybe. For a second.

I'm just amazed that Ryan Air has planes that can fly that far without falling out of the sky or the crew deciding to bin it and go for a pint.

*mutters something about the Irish being a bunch of work shy layabouts*

I'm just amazed that Ryan Air has planes that can fly that far without falling out of the sky or the crew deciding to bin it and go for a pint.

*mutters something about the Irish being a bunch of work shy layabouts*

>.>
*Pipe bombs*
<.<


:p



Also, I still don't see the point of this thread.

Also, I still don't see the point of this thread.

A tall guy with a beard may have hired a plane (or not, the details get a bit fuzzy around that point) and we are supposed to care because he's a scary tall guy with a beard.

>.>
*Pipe bombs*
<.<


:p



Also, I still don't see the point of this thread.hmm..

ok, so maybe this thread does not have enough mustard, does not live up to my ## standards, etc.

I shall issue a public apology and refunds for all and everyone. :D

I'm just amazed that Ryan Air has planes that can fly that far without falling out of the sky or the crew deciding to bin it and go for a pint.

*mutters something about the Irish being a bunch of work shy layabouts*I nearly pissed my pants the last time I rode Ryan Air. We landed so hard at Stansted Airport, outside of London, that our plane bounced back up into the air and we had to come back around and land again.

Never did trust Ryan Air...

FBI:FBI ? :eek: Is this like double the power?

FBI:FBI ? :eek: Is this like double the power?

It is a ratio. For every FBI you require and equal amount of FBI.

Charter is much better than regular. All the salted nuts you can eat! Good for Osama.

Charter is much better than regular. All the salted nuts you can eat! Good for Osama.no pretzels? :D

Enjoy your koolaid. :upyours:

Enjoy your koolaid. :upyours:

Grow up.

52 reports between April and September through the FAA.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13203-2005Feb10.html
What does Bush think of it?
So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. . . . I truly am not that concerned about him. - August 2004.

If Bin Laden paid to get his family out of the country, then it contradicts the Michael Moore theory that President Bush gave them special attention and arranged it.

BUT - if Bin Laden got his family out of the country, requiring no help from Bush, then it means some of the Bush conspiracies are flawed - BUT - Bush probably wants us to think that the conspiracy is flawed (right?), THEREFORE, any information that suggests the conspiracies are wrong may inself be an additional layer of conspiracy! :eek: We're all gonna die, clearly. :p

If Bin Laden paid to get his family out of the country, then it contradicts the Michael Moore theory that President Bush gave them special attention and arranged it. Read the article above.
Then there's more than just opinion involved.


BUT - if Bin Laden got his family out of the country, requiring no help from Bush, then it means some of the Bush conspiracies are flawed - BUT - Bush probably wants us to think that the conspiracy is flawed (right?), THEREFORE, any information that suggests the conspiracies are wrong may inself be an additional layer of conspiracy! :eek: We're all gonna die, clearly. :pJust about as untouchable as Scooter Libby taking the heat for disclosure of an NOC, when it was pretty clear ... whoop, what's that?
No conspiracies here?
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2007/06/cheney-ignoring-executive-order-on.php

Read the article above.
Then there's more than just opinion involved.

Just about as untouchable as Scooter Libby taking the heat for disclosure of an NOC, when it was pretty clear ... whoop, what's that?
No conspiracies here?
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2007/06/cheney-ignoring-executive-order-on.php

I never claimed that there have *never* been govenment conspiracies - just that this particular one is pretty silly. :p

I never claimed that there have *never* been govenment conspiracies - just that this particular one is pretty silly. :p

How silly?
http://www.911commission.gov/hearings/hearing10/staff_statement_10.pdf

http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2004/homelandsecurity.pdf

http://www.9-11commission.gov/

Interesting. They took out a link or two, eh?

Well, this will have to do. Scroll to bottom:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_statements/staff_statement_10.pdf