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New Zealand authorities have blocked a couple's bid to officially name their new son "4real," saying numerals are not allowed.

[...] [W]hen the parents filed the name with New Zealand's Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, they were told names beginning with a number were against the rules.

The government office has opened negotiations with the parents about the name under a policy that says all unusual names must be given case-by-case consideration.

[...] If no compromise has been reached by July 9, the baby will be registered as "real," officials say.

(Source (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1106AP_ODD_New_Zealand_Baby_Name.html))

I particularly like that last bit. :p

Sorry, 2L84ME.

(Source (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1106AP_ODD_New_Zealand_Baby_Name.html))

I particularly like that last bit. :p

*lol
They ought to be happy it's only numerals that aren't allowed. German regulations tend to be a bit more restrictive... but looking at the names some parents are trying to give their children, I think it's mostly to protect the kids. I remember a story about a couple who wanted to name their son Pumuckl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumuckl)

Why would anyone want to name their child that? :confused:

Why would anyone want to name their child that? :confused:

"Hi, I'm 4real" is a great reason.

I like the idea of having more than one kid with names that interact such as naming one kid "Dinner" and the other "Time"

ha

why aren't you allowed to name your kid whatever you want?:confused:

does the government really need to be involved with this?

What if you decide to call your child a racist term?

*lol
They ought to be happy it's only numerals that aren't allowed. German regulations tend to be a bit more restrictive... but looking at the names some parents are trying to give their children, I think it's mostly to protect the kids. I remember a story about a couple who wanted to name their son Pumuckl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumuckl)

why aren't you allowed to name your kid whatever you want?:confused:

does the government really need to be involved with this?

Why don't the just name him F'real instead?

Yes. I find my own name bad enough, but my mom originally wanted to give me the shortened nickname version and was - thankfully!! - told that that's not an official name.
So now, she still calls me by this horrible nickname, but at least for everybody else I can insist on them calling me by my real name.

What's so horrible about them? (The nickname and the real name)

why aren't you allowed to name your kid whatever you want?:confused:

does the government really need to be involved with this?

Yes. I find my own name bad enough, but my mom originally wanted to give me the shortened nickname version and was - thankfully!! - told that that's not an official name.
So now, she still calls me by this horrible nickname, but at least for everybody else I can insist on them calling me by my real name.

why aren't you allowed to name your kid whatever you want?:confused:

does the government really need to be involved with this?

Some parents are too stupid, and the government has to protect the poor kids preventing them from being given names that will result in mocking and offence.
We all know kids can be cruel: think what would happen at school to a kid that has some really stupid name - like, dunno "Jackass", "Crepe Suzette", "Osama Bin Laden"...

What if you decide to call your child a racist term?
so what? it's your kid. I don't really think the government needs some sort of "name approval department"

although I do know people named Peaches, Precious, Conception, Margarita, Kokaine, Six, and Pug.


Yes. I find my own name bad enough, but my mom originally wanted to give me the shortened nickname version and was - thankfully!! - told that that's not an official name.
So now, she still calls me by this horrible nickname, but at least for everybody else I can insist on them calling me by my real name.

I don't like my name either, I still don't think the government needs to go around and tell people how to name their children.

so what? it's your kid. I don't really think the government needs some sort of "name approval department"

although I do know people named Peaches, Precious, Conception, Margarita, Kokaine, Six, and Pug.


God I hate people who name their children Precious or any other such thing. Loving the last three though

Some parents are too stupid, and the government has to protect the poor kids preventing them from being given names that will result in mocking and offence.
We all know kids can be cruel: think what would happen at school to a kid that has some really stupid name - like, dunno "Jackass", "Crepe Suzette", "Osama Bin Laden"...

Wish that was my name. I'd love to get hauled in at airports only for them to find a pasty white Irish guy

Well, the real name is a bit long and slightly old-fashioned. The nickname is a synonym for fatass in English (which my mom didn't know, but which is a constant embarassment when it gets mentioned around English-speakers).

Ouch. That's not good.

What's so horrible about them? (The nickname and the real name)

Well, the real name is a bit long and slightly old-fashioned. The nickname is a synonym for fatass in English (which my mom didn't know, but which is a constant embarassment when it gets mentioned around English-speakers).

I don't like my name either, I still don't think the government needs to go around and tell people how to name their children.

In Japan, 1993, a couple was banned from naming their kid Akuma (Japanese for devil). They have to have some kind of control for the jackasses.

From the UK Deed Poll Service :

Fun names
Some people like the idea of having what we call a fun name. We have issued Deed Polls for fun names such as Jellyfish McSaveloy, Toasted T Cake, Nineteen Sixty-Eight, Hong Kong Phooey, Father Christmas, One-One-Eight Taxi, Ting A Ling, Huggy Bear, Donald Duck, Jojo Magicspacemonkey and James Bond.

And their restrictions :

Name restrictions
We will not accept an order for a Deed Poll for a name that:

is impossible to pronounce,
includes numbers or symbols,
includes punctuation marks - although you can have a hyphen to link forenames or surnames (for example, if you want a double-barrelled surname) and an apostrophe in the case of surnames like O'Brien.
we consider vulgar, offensive, blasphemous or unsuitable,
may result in others believing you have a conferred or inherited honour, title or rank, for example, a change of first name to Sir, Lord, Laird, Lady, Prince, Princess, Baron, Baroness, Count, Countess, General, Colonel etc.,
does not include at least one forename and one surname.

Some parents are too stupid, and the government has to protect the poor kids preventing them from being given names that will result in mocking and offence.
We all know kids can be cruel: think what would happen at school to a kid that has some really stupid name - like, dunno "Jackass", "Crepe Suzette", "Osama Bin Laden"...
and some parents physically, emotionally, and sexually abuse their children. I just don't see the point in "protecting" them from a crappy name when that money could be better spent on protecting them from real dangers.
Well, the real name is a bit long and slightly old-fashioned. The nickname is a synonym for fatass in English (which my mom didn't know, but which is a constant embarassment when it gets mentioned around English-speakers).
well, that does suck. why don't you change your name?

From the UK Deed Poll Service :

Fun names
Some people like the idea of having what we call a fun name. We have issued Deed Polls for fun names such as Jellyfish McSaveloy, Toasted T Cake, Nineteen Sixty-Eight, Hong Kong Phooey, Father Christmas, One-One-Eight Taxi, Ting A Ling, Huggy Bear, Donald Duck, Jojo Magicspacemonkey and James Bond.

And their restrictions :

Name restrictions
We will not accept an order for a Deed Poll for a name that:

is impossible to pronounce,
includes numbers or symbols,
includes punctuation marks - although you can have a hyphen to link forenames or surnames (for example, if you want a double-barrelled surname) and an apostrophe in the case of surnames like O'Brien.
we consider vulgar, offensive, blasphemous or unsuitable,
may result in others believing you have a conferred or inherited honour, title or rank, for example, a change of first name to Sir, Lord, Laird, Lady, Prince, Princess, Baron, Baroness, Count, Countess, General, Colonel etc.,
does not include at least one forename and one surname.

Excuse me, the GOVERNMENT gets to decide what's blasphemous? Can you name your kid Jesus (Pronounced Hesus, of course. Or even NOT pronounced Hesus.)? What about Lucifer?

think the government needs to go around and tell people how to name their children.

If it's preventing people from being too embarrased to ever give anybody their name, I think it is justified. Changing it is a rather expensive procedure later on, after all.

well, that does suck. why don't you change your name?

Cause I don't have that kind of money.

From the UK Deed Poll Service :

Fun names
Some people like the idea of having what we call a fun name. We have issued Deed Polls for fun names such as Jellyfish McSaveloy, Toasted T Cake, Nineteen Sixty-Eight, Hong Kong Phooey, Father Christmas, One-One-Eight Taxi, Ting A Ling, Huggy Bear, Donald Duck, Jojo Magicspacemonkey and James Bond.

And their restrictions :

Name restrictions
We will not accept an order for a Deed Poll for a name that:

is impossible to pronounce,
includes numbers or symbols,
includes punctuation marks - although you can have a hyphen to link forenames or surnames (for example, if you want a double-barrelled surname) and an apostrophe in the case of surnames like O'Brien.
we consider vulgar, offensive, blasphemous or unsuitable,
may result in others believing you have a conferred or inherited honour, title or rank, for example, a change of first name to Sir, Lord, Laird, Lady, Prince, Princess, Baron, Baroness, Count, Countess, General, Colonel etc.,
does not include at least one forename and one surname.

Sounds very much like the German regulations, yes.

If it's preventing people from being too embarrased to ever give anybody their name, I think it is justified. Changing it is a rather expensive procedure later on, after all.

:cool: glad I live in America where you can name your kids things like ESPN, Francis Bean, and Pilot Inspektor.

Excuse me, the GOVERNMENT gets to decide what's blasphemous? Can you name your kid Jesus (Pronounced Hesus, of course. Or even NOT pronounced Hesus.)? What about Lucifer?

I don't think Jesus counts as blasphemy though. Perhaps if you were called "Jesus Sucks" they would have an issue

Cause I don't have that kind of money.

Apparently its only £34 here

Cause I don't have that kind of money.

how much is it there?

:cool: glad I live in America where you can name your kids things like ESPN, Francis Bean, and Pilot Inspektor.

*lol Glad I was born in Germany and didn't have to suffer the embarrasment of being named fatass by an ignorant mother.

how much is it there?

Last time I checked, several hundred Euros. And a justification why you want it changed.

*lol Glad I was born in Germany and didn't have to suffer the embarrasment of being named fatass by an ignorant mother.
:D doesn't she still call you that though? I mean the government really didn't save you from anything..........right?

Last time I checked, several hundred Euros. And a justification why you want it changed.

huh, it's pretty cheap here, a few hundred bucks, and I don't have to provide a reason.........I just have to pick a name........that's the hard part.

huh, it's pretty cheap here, a few hundred bucks, and I don't have to provide a reason.........I just have to pick a name........that's the hard part.

JoJo MagicSpaceMonkey is looking more and more appealing the more I look at it. This thread can only end badly for me

Parents ought be able to name their spawn whatever they like. Though the no numerals thing is sensible. Suppose the progenitors (I loathe to call them parents) in this case will have to spell out the numeral.

JoJo MagicSpaceMonkey is looking more and more appealing the more I look at it. This thread can only end badly for me

that's actually pretty close to my name now........

Last time I checked, several hundred Euros. And a justification why you want it changed.

cost to change my last name and drop one of my middle names was $140 AUD

http://www.davegorman.com/search.htm

I really like the people who changed their names by deed poll to help him

:D doesn't she still call you that though? I mean the government really didn't save you from anything..........right?

She does, yes. But then again, moms are always embarrassing.
But at least I can ask everybody else (including teachers, colleagues, employers, etc.) to call me by my real name. That government official saved me from an AWFUL lot of embarassment in my daily life.

huh, it's pretty cheap here, a few hundred bucks, and I don't have to provide a reason.........I just have to pick a name........that's the hard part.

And why would it be ok for a mother to force her child to pay up to 1200 Euros later in life, just cause she was stupid enough not to give the child a name it can live with?

And why would it be ok for a mother to force her child to pay up to 1200 Euros later in life, just cause she was stupid enough not to give the child a name it can live with?

there is never any guarantee that you will like your name anyway, is there?

there is never any guarantee that you will like your name anyway, is there?

Of course there isn't. But liking a name and being constantly ashamed of it are two very different things. At least it can be ensured that it's not "fatass", don't you think?

Of course there isn't. But liking a name and being constantly ashamed of it are two very different things. At least it can be ensured that it's not "fatass", don't you think?

meh.

Of course there isn't. But liking a name and being constantly ashamed of it are two very different things. At least it can be ensured that it's not "fatass", don't you think?

Now i'm going to be thinking of synonyms for Fatass all day

Now i'm going to be thinking of synonyms for Fatass all day

My money's on Lardo.

My money's on Lardo.

*lol Way off, but I'm not going to tell you what it is, sorry.

I for one have rather embarassing initials, which is why I'm changing my name if/when I get married.

But "4real"? What?! There should be regulations on naming your kids so that it doesn't sound stupid. I'm not one to yell "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" (unless I'm promoting my story :cool:) but come on people, don't name your kids stupid crap like "Rainbow" "Rocco" "Pilot Inspektor" "Apple" "4real" or worse yet, "Salad Fork". That's just cruel to your kids. It's one thing to be genuinely ignorant and name your child something that translates or sounds like an undesirable name in another language, it's another to be a retard and purposely name your kids that in your own language.

I quite like Apple and Rocco. The trouble is when you leave things too much to subjectivity on the part of those checking the names

cost to change my last name and drop one of my middle names was $140 AUD

Why did you need to change your name?

I for one have rather embarassing initials, which is why I'm changing my name if/when I get married.

But "4real"? What?! There should be regulations on naming your kids so that it doesn't sound stupid. I'm not one to yell "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" (unless I'm promoting my story :cool:) but come on people, don't name your kids stupid crap like "Rainbow" "Rocco" "Pilot Inspektor" "Apple" "4real" or worse yet, "Salad Fork". That's just cruel to your kids. It's one thing to be genuinely ignorant and name your child something that translates or sounds like an undesirable name in another language, it's another to be a retard and purposely name your kids that in your own language.

What about 'Salad Fingers' (note: Has not occured) as a name for a child?

Why did you need to change your name?

long story which i'm not saying

I didn't realise you can change your name to Mrs (Insert Boyfriends Surname) without getting married.

exactly.

I mean, they probably would have vetoed my name and I would have been left with my mom's second choice "Riley-anne" *pukes*

besides, if I adopt a kid in the future it's going to have a Klingon name, it just is.

"Kang! Come pick up your toys!"

exactly.

I mean, they probably would have vetoed my name and I would have been left with my mom's second choice "Riley-anne" *pukes*

besides, if I adopt a kid in the future it's going to have a Klingon name, it just is.

I'm thinking "Fionn MacCumhail (My Surname)" would be cool for my (eventual) child

I quite like Apple and Rocco. The trouble is when you leave things too much to subjectivity on the part of those checking the names

exactly.

I mean, they probably would have vetoed my name and I would have been left with my mom's second choice "Riley-anne" *pukes*

besides, if I adopt a kid in the future it's going to have a Klingon name, it just is.

exactly.

I mean, they probably would have vetoed my name and I would have been left with my mom's second choice "Riley-anne" *pukes*

besides, if I adopt a kid in the future it's going to have a Klingon name, it just is.

Damn everyone here seems to have such mysteriously cool names from the sounds of things

My first kids name will be Lothar

Guy or girl

"Kang! Come pick up your toys!"

I always rather liked Kurn.

Damn everyone here seems to have such mysteriously cool names from the sounds of things

Smunkee has a guy's name. Mine is biblical and I loathe it, but women always say it's such a pretty name.

I love my name, it means "Happy God" in Arabic.:p

exactly.

I mean, they probably would have vetoed my name and I would have been left with my mom's second choice "Riley-anne" *pukes*

besides, if I adopt a kid in the future it's going to have a Klingon name, it just is.

Like Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! ?

Are you a female version of William Shatner?

Damn everyone here seems to have such mysteriously cool names from the sounds of things

my name sucks, really sucks, like functionally makes my life hell sucks.

Mine is biblical and I loathe it, but women always say it's such a pretty name.

Gabriel?

Gabriel?

No, Gabe is a fairly normal name. Jedidiah.

This reminds me of Seinfeld....

SEVEN!!!!!

No, Gabe is a fairly normal name. Jedidiah.

I know its not the same but now I want to put Springfield as your imaginary surname

I know its not the same but now I want to put Springfield as your imaginary surname

You get points for not making a Jed Clampett joke.

This reminds me of Seinfeld....

SEVEN!!!!!

There was a kid on Married with Children named Seven.

Anyway, I forgot the name but this computer geek named his son after himself. Why was this weird? Instead of using Jr., he used "2.0". It's a kid, not a computer.

If you're going to name a kid something unique, at least try to make it look and sound normal. I like Hoyteca. Might change my name to Hoyteca Nihoyca. Doesn't sound as stupid as "Moonunit 2" or "Apple" or "(insert father's name here) 2.0". Sometimes I wish I was named "Fox". Sound stupid, but it's an actual first name. As real a name as "Steve", "Bob", or "Chris" instead of "Apple" or "Lardo".

Some synonyms for "fat" for the dumbass parent:
Elephantine
Blimp
Cow
Whale
Chunky
Bull
Broad
etc.

Oh shit. Now that I've listed them, people are going to name their daughters "Elephantine". "Elephantino" if it's a boy.

Best names

1. Sauron
2. Leonidas
3. Afroduck
4. Richard B. Mongler
5. Furseiseki
6. Mitchell Henderson
7. ???
8. Profit

Excuse me, the GOVERNMENT gets to decide what's blasphemous? Can you name your kid Jesus (Pronounced Hesus, of course. Or even NOT pronounced Hesus.)? What about Lucifer?

What about Joshua? (Jesus' actual name as pronounced in hebrew).