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In his latest infantile tantrum, Pakistani Islamo-Nazi leader Sami ul-Haq now wants to create "Sir Osama bin Laden":


Islamabad - A hard-line Pakistani parliamentarian and head of a religious political party on Wednesday demanded a "sir" title for Osama bin Laden, the leader of the al-Qaeda terrorist network, in retaliation for Britain knighting author Salman Rushdie.

"Muslims should confer the 'sir' title and all other awards on bin Laden and Mullah Omar in reply to Britain's shameful decision to knight Rushdie," Sami ul Haq, leader of the pro-Taliban Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, said in a statement, referring also to the leader of the Taliban.

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Rushdie, 60, was given the recognition at birthday honours for Britain's Queen Elizabeth II on Saturday, about two decades after his book The Satanic Verses sparked protests in Muslim countries, including Pakistan, in 1989.

The novel also became the subject in the same year of a fatwa, a religious edict, by late Iranian spiritual leader Ayatollah Khomenei, who demanded Rushdie's death.

"Europe and Western nations are intentionally pushing Muslims towards extremism by awarding a nefarious person," Haq said.

The hard-line leader, who is also a parliament member, called upon the Pakistani government to withdraw its support for the US-led war on terrorism.

The honour for Rushdie triggered diplomatic tensions between Islamabad and London Tuesday as the Pakistani Foreign Office summoned Britain's high commissioner to Islamabad, Robert Brinkley, to protest the award.

Britain in return expressed deep concern over comments by a Pakistani minister that the honour could provoke radical Muslims to carry out suicide attacks.

Brinkley had conveyed the "clear message" that, in Britain's view, "nothing can justify suicide bomb attacks," the Foreign Office in London said.

Earlier, thousands of Pakistanis held protest rallies in various cities and burned British flags and effigies of Queen Elizabeth II.

The supporters of a radical Islamic group in the eastern city of Lahore were planning on Wednesday to stage a public hanging of an effigy of Rushdie, an Indian-born author who is under constant British police surveillance and has moved house more than 30 times in two decades of hiding.

According to some press reports, British police are reviewing his security after threats from Islamic extremists since his knighthood. - Sapa-DPA

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=126&art_id=nw20070620112908423C340437

When (not if) Pres. Musharraf loses control of the situation and ul-Haq and his fellow savages seize power, I really hope that the US and India (and any other nations who have the will) have a contingency plan to crush the resulting Islamo-Nazi regime before it can consolidate power, eliminate its nuclear capacity, and drain the malarial swamp of Taliban and al-Qaeda minions that is the "Tribal Areas" of Pakistan once and for all.

Do you even realize how ignorant it is to call someone an "Islamo-nazi"?

Islamo-nazi?



GODWIN! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law)

Do you even realize how ignorant it is to call someone an "Islamo-nazi"?

You're right; the "n" should be capitalized.

Silly Muslims, handing out knighthoods is for royalty.


Also, Islamo-Nazi? Wuh? Since when have Nazis been subdivided by their religion? Was Hitler a Christian-Nazi?

Godwin in the OP?

If I hadn't been lurking on NSG for as long as I have, I'd think that was some sort of record...

Record breaker.

Phacist Phig... ROFLMAO!

....And, the annual prize for the combined most offensive/racist/xenophobic/misleading thread title goes to...


*Opens Envelope*

Oh my god! In a shock victory, the winner is New Mitanni!

Also, if they're not in a Nazi party, they're not Nazis. You fail.

I say go for it. If they want to give the guy an honour, that's their perogative. Just don't be too surprised when the US gets all Ameri-nazi on them.

*Yaw-nazis*

Also, Islamo-Nazi? Wuh? Since when have Nazis been subdivided by their religion? Was Hitler a Christian-Nazi?
Only Islamo-Commies make fun of the term Islamo-Nazi.

So, will we see a return of New Mitanni? Or is this another 'shoot n scoot'?

Fuck Godwin.

Sadly, New Mitanni's article raises some disturbing issues that the world is going to have to face eventually - namely that there are millions of people wedged between Europe and the Subcontinent that think writing a book justifies violent protest and suicide attacks. There is a severe lack of Liberalism and tolerance among these individuals, and they're a threat.

That being said, calling them Islamo-Nazis adds nothing constructive at all, nor does hoping this degenerates to the point of violence.

Sadly, New Mitanni's article raises some disturbing issues that the world is going to have to face eventually - namely that there are millions of people wedged between Europe and the Subcontinent that think writing a book justifies violent protest and suicide attacks. There is a severe lack of Liberalism and tolerance among these individuals, and they're a threat.

That being said, calling them Islamo-Nazis adds nothing constructive at all, nor does hoping this degenerates to the point of violence.

Liberalism isn't a universally accepted idea. What works for you, doesn't always works for everybody else.

What works for you, doesn't always works for everybody else.
That, good sir, is the basic tenate of liberalism.

Sadly, New Mitanni's article raises some disturbing issues that the world is going to have to face eventually - namely that there are millions of people wedged between Europe and the Subcontinent that think writing a book justifies violent protest and suicide attacks. There is a severe lack of Liberalism and tolerance among these individuals, and they're a threat.

That being said, calling them Islamo-Nazis adds nothing constructive at all, nor does hoping this degenerates to the point of violence.

I can't take credit for the term "Islamo-Nazi", much as I might like to. I think Michael Medved first came up with it. However, in my opinion it is an accurate descriptive term. If anything, the subjects of the terminology are even more brutally violent and more anti-Semitic than the original Nazis. If it offends someone's sensitivities to hear them likened, too bad. I will continue to call a spade a spade and pro-Taliban, pro-al Qaeda, jihadi savages Islamo-Nazis.

And I am not "hoping this degenerates to the point of violence." I am opining that the situation is going to do so. I'll go further: IMO one of the primary reasons, if not the primary reason, we haven't seen OBL's head on a Marine's bayonet yet is because we have refrained from moving into the tribal areas in order not to undermine Musharraf. I think the evidence of record clearly suggests he's there, that he's being hidden by local fellow terrorists, and that the Pak government refuses to move in and clean out the area. If we moved in, however, I would expect that OBL's flunkies and minions would attempt to overthrow Musharraf.

So if we take direct action now, Musharraf probably falls. If we do nothing, he probably falls later. Either way an enemy regime attempts to take power. Thus the need for contingency planning.

So, will we see a return of New Mitanni? Or is this another 'shoot n scoot'?

If I don't reply to a given post, it's probably because (a) I'm busy or doing other things in RL, (b) someone else adequately replies, or (c) the poster is on my ignore list.

That, good sir, is the basic tenate of liberalism.

Exactly. Until they accept that just because they don't want to read Salmon Rushdie doesn't mean they can kill him or people who do want to read him, they'll be virtually impossible to deal with, and a very real threat.

Let them knight him, I can see the Monty Python jokes on the talk show monologues already.

Another post by New Mitanni insinuating that all Muslims venerate Bin Ladin and Mullah Omar as heroes worthy of knighthood. Yaaaawn.

I can't take credit for the term "Islamo-Nazi", much as I might like to. I think Michael Medved first came up with it. However, in my opinion it is an accurate descriptive term.

The fact that someone else invented it doesn't absolve you of being guilty of using it.

If anything, the subjects of the terminology are even more brutally violent and more anti-Semitic than the original Nazis.

This may shock you, but anti-Semitism wasn't invented by the Nazis. Might as well call them Islamo-Catholics if their anti-Semitic stance is your only basis. Or Islamo-Romans, or etc.

If it offends someone's sensitivities to hear them likened, too bad. I will continue to call a spade a spade and pro-Taliban, pro-al Qaeda, jihadi savages Islamo-Nazis.

Except you aren't calling a spade a spade. Nazism, while including anti-Semitism, is not defined by it. It is far more than that. Islamic Fundamentalists have about as much to do with Nazis as the Republican Party does, given that the Republicans are Right Wing, and so were the Nazis. Would it make sense to call Republicans "Nazis"? No.

A knife can kill people, so can a gun. Do you call a knife a "gun" merely because it shares that one characteristic?

In fact, Islamic Fundamentalists have a number of characteristics which make them flat counter to Nazism. For example, religious fundamentalism. Yeah, that thing that Islamic Fundamentalists are, that makes them NOT Nazis.



You need to realize that there are more bad things in the world than Nazis. When you do, you will learn that accurate descriptions only help you make points, not hinder you.

If I don't reply to a given post, it's probably because (a) I'm busy or doing other things in RL, (b) someone else adequately replies, or (c) the poster is on my ignore list.

Oops, forgot one: (d) the post is so stupid it isn't worth wasting my time responding to it.

Oops, forgot one: (d) the post is so stupid it isn't worth wasting my time responding to it.

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The fact that someone else invented it

My point was that the term is in fact in common use. Clearly a considerable segment of the public finds it useful.


doesn't absolve you of being guilty of using it.

"Guilty"? Not only do I not feel "guilty" of using it, or feel the slightest need for "absolution" for doing so, but to the contrary, I use it proudly. Trying to lay guilt trips on me is an exercise in futility, my friend. I leave that to my church.

Except you aren't calling a spade a spade. Nazism, while including anti-Semitism, is not defined by it. It is far more than that. Islamic Fundamentalists have about as much to do with Nazis as the Republican Party does, given that the Republicans are Right Wing, and so were the Nazis. Would it make sense to call Republicans "Nazis"? No.

The point of the analogy is the emphasis on the brutality and hatred common to both ideologies.

And as for comparisons of Nazism with the Republican Party, the better scale is not the obsolete French-Revolutionary seating arrangement of "left wing" vs "right wing," but one that places total government control of society on one end and no government control of society at the other. On this scale, again, I submit that Islamo-Nazism (indeed, Islam in general) and German National Socialism are much closer to each other than either is to the Republican Party.

In fact, Islamic Fundamentalists have a number of characteristics which make them flat counter to Nazism. For example, religious fundamentalism. Yeah, that thing that Islamic Fundamentalists are, that makes them NOT Nazis.

The fact that Islamo-Nazis impute their evil ideology to God and pretend that they are acting according to His will makes them far worse than Nazis. Again, the analogy is grounded in their brutality and hatred.

My point was that the term is in fact in common use. Clearly a considerable segment of the public finds it useful.

And half the population is of below average intelligence...

And besides, MTAE does this shit better than you, you're at best a second banana.

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Okay, that's fucking annoying.

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LOL

Silly Muslims, handing out knighthoods is for royalty.

The British queen brought that up, that is why the effigy burning is going on ;) .

That, good sir, is the basic tenate of liberalism.

Yes indeedy,... :)

Liberalists don't liberate, they suggest liberation.

And half the population is of below average intelligence...

Obviously it's the upper half that uses the term.

And besides, MTAE does this shit better than you, you're at best a second banana.

When I want your support in a popularity contest, I'll send you a ballot :p

*Yaw-nazis*

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Obviously it's the upper half that uses the term.

I haven't.