NationStates Jolt Archive


Israel's appeal to US males

Khadgar
20-06-2007, 15:28
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6221714.stm


Israel targets US lad mag market

All the models are said to have served in the Israeli Defence Force
Israel has decided to reach out to young US men by publishing images of semi-clad female former soldiers in US men's magazine, Maxim.

The pictures are part of a public relations drive to improve the image of the country within the US.

Maxim said it was "pleased" with the result of its collaboration with the Israeli consulate in New York, which came up with the idea.

But some in Israel have said that the images were not appropriate.

"We definitely have public relations problems, and I'm all for creative solutions," Israeli lawmaker Colette Avital said.

"But there are enough beautiful and interesting things we can use to tap into this demographic than to show a half-naked woman in a magazine of this kind, considered pornographic."

According to AP, the photo spread will include pictures of Israeli model Nivit Bash - who served in Israeli military intelligence - and former Miss Israel, Gal Gadot.

The Israeli consulate defended its decision, taken after research indicated that Israel meant very little to young US men.

"Males that age have no feeling toward Israel one way or another, and we view that as a problem, so we came up with an idea that would be appealing to them," said David Dorfman, a media adviser at the consulate.

The photo feature, entitled "Women of the Israeli Defense Forces", will be published in the July issue of the magazine.

Seems a stupid and shallow ploy to me. If we show naked women men will like us!
Nodinia
20-06-2007, 15:32
We have a poster here who did the same thing....Most of us still think ill of the IDF, and him, for that matter.
Peepelonia
20-06-2007, 15:33
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6221714.stm



Seems a stupid and shallow ploy to me. If we show naked women men will like us!


Well I don't know it has worked elsewhere for years!
Khadgar
20-06-2007, 15:34
Well I don't know it has worked elsewhere for years!

It's insulting, but I guess some people like being insulted.
Peepelonia
20-06-2007, 15:36
It's insulting, but I guess some people like being insulted.

How so?
Philosopy
20-06-2007, 15:38
I support this. Now we need the Palestinians to retaliate using their own beautiful models, and then, rather than shooting each other, they can fight on the pages of magazines with breasts of mass distraction.
Khadgar
20-06-2007, 15:40
How so?

You don't think it's insulting men's intelligence?
Nodinia
20-06-2007, 15:41
I support this. Now we need the Palestinians to retaliate using their own beautiful models, and then, rather than shooting each other, they can fight on the pages of magazines with breasts of mass distraction.

I will support the Palestinian people in this. I will also extend my hands to the Israelis.
Johnny B Goode
20-06-2007, 15:42
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6221714.stm



Seems a stupid and shallow ploy to me. If we show naked women men will like us!

Even I wouldn't fall for that.
Troglobites
20-06-2007, 15:42
I support this. Now we need the Palestinians to retaliate using their own beautiful models, and then, rather than shooting each other, they can fight on the pages of magazines with breasts of mass distraction.

But they keep hiding them.
Ghost Tigers Rise
20-06-2007, 15:43
Even I wouldn't fall for that.

Johnny, don't lie to us.
Londim
20-06-2007, 15:43
Have you sen pictures of the two women mentioned in the article? Because if they want to bare all then I'm happy.

http://www.tam.co.il/14_10_2005/images/gal_gadot.jpg

Miss Gal Gadot aka Miss Israel

and

http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer/02202003/245353/nivit_bash2_a.jpg
Miss Nivit Bash
Telesha
20-06-2007, 15:44
You don't think it's insulting men's intelligence?

I think the idea that men enjoy looking at beautiful women, therefore they must be intellectually deficient insulting.
Johnny B Goode
20-06-2007, 15:45
Johnny, don't lie to us.

I might admire the pictures, but I'm not gonna go off and fight Israel's battles because they showed me some hot pictures.
Khadgar
20-06-2007, 15:46
I think the idea that men enjoy looking at beautiful women, therefore they must be intellectually deficient insulting.

Yes well intellectual deficiency is a charge I'm certain you've heard before. Try to follow along eh?

Israel realizes US 20 something men really don't care about them. Israel comes up with a ploy, we'll put some half naked women in a magazine. Suddenly all the 20 something men will support Israel!

You don't see how that's insulting someone's intelligence?
Nodinia
20-06-2007, 15:48
Nivit Bash

Great name. All we need now is Ms Rosa Barrier, and Ms Ethel Settlement and the trio is complete
Nodinia
20-06-2007, 15:51
You don't see how that's insulting someone's intelligence?

After two Bush terms? No, not really.
Free Soviets
20-06-2007, 15:52
"The photo feature, entitled 'Women of the Israeli Defense Forces'..."

but since everybody has to hang out in the idf for a couple years, that's just cheating
Peepelonia
20-06-2007, 15:54
You don't think it's insulting men's intelligence?

Heh not at all we like looking at pretty, scantily clad women.
Telesha
20-06-2007, 15:55
Israel realizes US 20 something men really don't care about them. Israel comes up with a ploy, we'll put some half naked women in a magazine. Suddenly all the 20 something men will support Israel!

You don't see how that's insulting someone's intelligence?

When did I ever disagree with you?

You stated what Israel was doing was insulting to men's intelligence, I followed with I found the whole idea that since men enjoy beautiful women, they must be idiots insulting. One follows from the other.

I trust even you can see how that works.
Nodinia
20-06-2007, 15:55
"The photo feature, entitled 'Women of the Israeli Defense Forces'..."

but since everybody has to hang out in the idf for a couple years, that's just cheating

Plus they are former IDF...Plus its not like its going to be shared showers like on Battlerstar G. on TV either.
Occeandrive3
20-06-2007, 15:56
After two Bush terms? No, not really.WUAHAHAHA.

your are the man!! :D
Khadgar
20-06-2007, 15:58
When did I ever disagree with you?

You stated what Israel was doing was insulting to men's intelligence, I followed with I found the whole idea that since men enjoy beautiful women, they must be idiots insulting. One follows from the other.

I trust even you can see how that works.

Did I ever make the implication? No? Well go find something else I haven't said to be insulted about.
Imperial isa
20-06-2007, 16:01
Yes well intellectual deficiency is a charge I'm certain you've heard before. Try to follow along eh?

Israel realizes US 20 something men really don't care about them. Israel comes up with a ploy, we'll put some half naked women in a magazine. Suddenly all the 20 something men will support Israel!

You don't see how that's insulting someone's intelligence?

or see if they can join up and get lucky
Brellach
20-06-2007, 16:15
Yes well intellectual deficiency is a charge I'm certain you've heard before. Try to follow along eh?

Israel realizes US 20 something men really don't care about them. Israel comes up with a ploy, we'll put some half naked women in a magazine. Suddenly all the 20 something men will support Israel!

You don't see how that's insulting someone's intelligence?

Well, it works for me and I'm not even American!
Allanea
20-06-2007, 16:18
You forgot to actually post the picture which the Israeli government distributed.

http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/04062007/1145401/mail_wa.jpg

Most. Awesome. Propaganda. Ever.
Allanea
20-06-2007, 16:19
"The photo feature, entitled 'Women of the Israeli Defense Forces'..."

but since everybody has to hang out in the idf for a couple years, that's just cheating

About 45% of people here dodge the draft.
Allanea
20-06-2007, 16:20
Israel realizes US 20 something men really don't care about them. Israel comes up with a ploy, we'll put some half naked women in a magazine. Suddenly all the 20 something men will support Israel!

From what I understood it was a ploy to sell Israel as a tourist sport.

Hey, it sells cars, it can sell hotel reservations.
New new nebraska
20-06-2007, 16:28
I support this. Now we need the Palestinians to retaliate using their own beautiful models, and then, rather than shooting each other, they can fight on the pages of magazines with breasts of mass distraction.

Peace but porn, the church is torn while others reap the benifits.
Occeandrive3
20-06-2007, 16:28
dp
Aggressor nation
20-06-2007, 16:29
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6221714.stm



Seems a stupid and shallow ploy to me. If we show naked women men will like us!

Stupid and shallow usually works, doesn't it? Didn't CNN recently declare itself the "most trusted when it comes to Paris Hilton" or some such?
Occeandrive3
20-06-2007, 16:31
http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/04062007/1145401/mail_wa.jpg
a ploy to sell Israel as a tourist sport.sex is a tourist sport.. but mostly for single tourists. :D

Is that Tel Aviv on the background?
New Manvir
20-06-2007, 16:31
So...their newest weapon...is t3h pr0n?
Neo Undelia
20-06-2007, 16:33
Most. Awesome. Propaganda. Ever.

Meh. She's all right.
Free Soviets
20-06-2007, 16:35
damnit, the site appears to be down. but the israelis have clearly stolen this idea from the national bolsheviks in russia. they're a bunch of nazis pretending to be stalinists pretending to be anarchists, and they have a page of pictures of their 'combat girlfriends'.

http://www.nbp.nad.ru/new/photo/girls/
Allanea
20-06-2007, 16:36
sex is a tourist sport.. but mostly for single tourists. :D

And this is targeted to 20-year-old single males.

Is that Tel Aviv on the background?

Yes.
Oakondra
20-06-2007, 16:41
Israel is corrupt, and the US should not even be supporting it. Their ploy to get even more people in the United States blindly supporting them is sickening, especially when it is in such a manner. They are preying on our own immorality to support theirs.

They murder or maim Palestinians (including children), steal/destroy their land, attack peaceful protesters, ethnically cleanse entire cities, build segregation walls, and more. The mainstream media ignores the these facts.

Why anyone would support them is beyond me, and the world hates our government for being Israel's lapdog.
Occeandrive3
20-06-2007, 16:41
And this is targeted to 20-year-old single males.



Yes.see?
sex sells.. -all of a sudden- Tel Aviv is more interesting too look at. :D
OuroborosCobra
20-06-2007, 16:41
I am remind of this tourism commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZhtGP6fS8).

(Not entirely safe for work, nothing pornographic, but some language)
Occeandrive3
20-06-2007, 16:43
Israel is corrupt, and the US should not even be supporting it. Their ploy to get even more people in the United States blindly supporting them is sickening, especially when it is in such a manner. They are preying on our own immorality to support theirs.

They murder or maim Palestinians (including children), steal/destroy their land, attack peaceful protesters, ethnically cleanse entire cities, build segregation walls, and more. The mainstream media ignores the these facts.

Why anyone would support them is beyond me, and the world hates our government for being Israel's lapdog.true true.. but have you seen her breast?

and her.. ass.. and her .... ... aww man.
Imperial isa
20-06-2007, 17:13
Why anyone would support them is beyond me, and the world hates our government for being Israel's lapdog.

no the world just hate your government out right for bring dumb and US government is no one's lapdog other governments are it's lapdog
New Stalinberg
20-06-2007, 17:16
Israel is corrupt, and the US should not even be supporting it. Their ploy to get even more people in the United States blindly supporting them is sickening, especially when it is in such a manner. They are preying on our own immorality to support theirs.

They murder or maim Palestinians (including children), steal/destroy their land, attack peaceful protesters, ethnically cleanse entire cities, build segregation walls, and more. The mainstream media ignores the these facts.

Why anyone would support them is beyond me, and the world hates our government for being Israel's lapdog.

Lawl.
Pwnageeeee
20-06-2007, 17:21
woot, half naked women for everyone!
United Beleriand
20-06-2007, 17:25
woot, half naked women for everyone!half women?
Slaughterhouse five
20-06-2007, 18:00
i support Israel before this. but i will make sure to buy the July issue of this magazine still.
Occeandrive3
20-06-2007, 18:02
i support Israel before this.I still dont support Israel, but I sure would nail that piece of that ass -anytime baby- bring it on :D
Psychotic Mongooses
20-06-2007, 18:21
It's a bit sad that they're insecure enough about the fact that people don't have an opinion either way about them - so pretty gurls + caveman mentality = win. huh huh huh.
Rancho Vista
20-06-2007, 18:33
It's a bit sad that they're insecure enough about the fact that people don't have an opinion either way about them - so pretty gurls + caveman mentality = win. huh huh huh.
Any time an organization runs an ad it's because they're insecure. Yeah, that makes sense.
Psychotic Mongooses
20-06-2007, 18:35
Any time an organization runs an ad it's because they're insecure. Yeah, that makes sense.

There's a difference between being insecure about people having a negative perception about you. That requires a PR campaign. But for people who don't have an opinion, negative or positive, "Males that age have no feeling toward Israel one way or another, and we view that as a problem" is plain pathetic.

The fact they are resorting to the lowest common denominator is even more pathetic. And the fact that people are supposed to ignore political issues or policy issues because a pretty girl got her tits out is the worst form of PR possible.
Soleichunn
20-06-2007, 19:45
I support this. Now we need the Palestinians to retaliate using their own beautiful models, and then, rather than shooting each other, they can fight on the pages of magazines with breasts of mass distraction.

Do they have to be currently living in Palestine? *Runs off to find a Palistinian lass*
Soleichunn
20-06-2007, 19:50
half women?

There is an amputee fetish after all...