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mainly for those that believe in a higher power (God).


say you noticed signs of the end times and you were pretty sure they were correct and that this meant that the end was very near. would you try and delay the end of the world? or would you just let everything run its course without resistance?

I would try to delay it. Not only because I'd feel guilty for not doing so but also because there are so many things I want to do and understand in life like marrying the woman of my dreams and having my own business. I've been empty recently in those areas and I want to make up for that.

mainly for those that believe in a higher power (God, allah, Vishnu, Chuck Norris, ...).


say you noticed signs of the end times and you were pretty sure they were correct and that this meant that the end was very near. would you try and delay the end of the world? or would you just let everything run its course without resistance?

Ooooo Shiney red button...

EDIT: poll?

mainly for those that believe in a higher power (God).


say you noticed signs of the end times and you were pretty sure they were correct and that this meant that the end was very near. would you try and delay the end of the world? or would you just let everything run its course without resistance?

I'd do everything I could to allow humanity to evolve more before some external force stopped us from going further.

If it's the end of times, how can you stop it?

Isn't a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy?

As if something like that could be delayed. by the time you see the signs, it's too late.

I would pray for everyone, including myself.

Exactly, if you believe in a higher being, then pretty much all you can do is repent, pray and hope you're ok

mainly for those that believe in a higher power (God).


say you noticed signs of the end times and you were pretty sure they were correct and that this meant that the end was very near. would you try and delay the end of the world? or would you just let everything run its course without resistance?

As if something like that could be delayed. by the time you see the signs, it's too late.

I would pray for everyone, including myself.

If God were looking to end the world, I don't think he'd come seeking my advice. :p If He did, though, sure - I'd tell him to relax and let us live a while. :)

I actually don't believe in an "end". The end, as I see it, will only lead to a new beginning, in one form or the other.

As for the "end times", I'd prefer very much if it didn't happen. I don't care if it leads up to a Kingdom of God or utter annihilation, I still have stuff to do.

...As such if some misguided fuck decides to launch a few nukes in order to "speed up" the process, I'm obviously going to try to stop him.

Stopping the end as ordained by God though...I'd imagine that would be somewhat more difficult, seeing as though he could just smote my ass from orbit.

I'd pray for others, and try to spread the Gospel to as many people as I could. There is no stopping God's plans, not even delaying them.

Depends what kind of mood I'm in at the time.

I personally don't believe in an end, just another step forward in the cycle of existence. So, I imagine I would try to stop anyone working to bring about an end because they'd probably be causing a lot of harm through their actions. Most accounts of apocalypse aren't nice by a long shot.

Isn't the eventual outcome of most apocalypses that there's a period of unpleasantness and then a new Golden Age, either that we all go to heaven or earth is cleansed of all the bad stuff? May as well get it over and done with.

Define "end." End of what? What scale are we talking about here? Depression-type end, bombed into the stone age-type end or obliteration of the planet-type end?

If you're talking about the clouds parting, angelic trumpets, the veils between levels of reality dissolving, etc. then I dunno... it might be kind of cool. There's a Pet Shop Boys lyric that runs: "I want to die and satisfy my curiosity."

Isn't the eventual outcome of most apocalypses that there's a period of unpleasantness and then a new Golden Age, either that we all go to heaven or earth is cleansed of all the bad stuff? May as well get it over and done with.

Yeah, but there's still the horrendous painful death part of the whole mess...I mean, I'd love to have a Golden Age as much as anyone else, but years of famine/war/Gods only know what else just doesn't seem like a good trade.

I prefer more gradual improvement towards utopia rather than the cleanse by fire version.

I believe we deserve it - So no, I would do nothing.

Define "end." End of what? What scale are we talking about here? Depression-type end, bombed into the stone age-type end or obliteration of the planet-type end?

If you're talking about the clouds parting, angelic trumpets, the veils between levels of reality dissolving, etc. then I dunno... it might be kind of cool. There's a Pet Shop Boys lyric that runs: "I want to die and satisfy my curiosity."

by end i mean the finishing off of the world by some higher power. however you believe it will be done (or wont be done) is up to you. but if you saw the signs that such an event would happen would you try and prevent/delay it from happening. no matter how useless any attempts at stopping it may be?

I believe we deserve it - So no, I would do nothing.

You might, I don't.

I would walk around with a beatific smile on my face and pat people's heads with my hand while awaiting my due.

Wouldn't try to stop it because going toe-to-toe with an omnipotent God just doesn't strike me as a great idea. Wouldn't try to stop people trying to stop it because I feel good about God's ability to take care of himself.

If resistance is futile, why bother resisting?

You might, I don't.

I would walk around with a beatific smile on my face and pat people's heads with my hand while awaiting my due.

i should of added asit on the street corner with a "end is near" sign shouting at people passing byoption to the poll

i should of added asit on the street corner with a "end is near" sign shouting at people passing by
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why? would the bridge be out?

(kudos to those who know the joke from which this punchline came from.) :p

You might, I don't.

I would walk around with a beatific smile on my face and pat people's heads with my hand while awaiting my due.
I said 'we' - As in we the species. You cannot claim that we are anything but a blight upon the earth. How many third world people could eat off the food you discard every day? How many could eat with the money you needlessly spend on gas every day, spewing toxins into the air, to boot?
EDIT: And Hunter S Thompson's 420th post - Boo yah!

I said 'we' - As in we the species. You cannot deny that we are anything but a blight upon the earth. How many third world people could eat off the food you discard every day? How many could eat with the money you needlessly spend on gas every day, spewing toxins into the air, to boot?

So what, I pray to the correct God and that's all that matters.

You're all off to hell.

So what, I pray to the correct God and that's all that matters.

You're all off to hell.
Are you fucking serious? There are so many things wrong with that statement - And it's not even very long!

Are you fucking serious? There are so many things wrong with that statement - And it's not even very long!

No need to swear, that's not going to gain you any brownie points with Our Lord is it?

No need to swear, that's not going to gain you any brownie points with Our Lord is it?
*Slaps face*
Right, shoulda known you were joking. My bad!
Off to bed for this sinner...

*Slaps face*
Right, shoulda known you were joking. My bad!
Off to bed for this sinner...

Damn, I thought I'd get a few pages out of that, overplayed my hand :(

Sleep well.....SINNER!

:)

mainly for those that believe in a higher power (God, allah, Vishnu, Chuck Norris, ...).

say you noticed signs of the end times and you were pretty sure they were correct and that this meant that the end was very near. would you try and delay the end of the world? or would you just let everything run its course without resistance?

Hel is a nice lady once you get to know her.
Cerberus, and Kerberos are more then happy to catch frisbees i throw their way.
Charon just wants a cigarette.
Hades wins me at chess.
errr...

its your ar-ma-gay-don. you burn in it. seriously, how the fuck is this supposed to happen again:
ohhh...right...your all-loving crusades-starting one-god is going to come down and punish for all time immortal, those who never followed him?

here is a question for you: if it says love your neighbor, and somewhere else it says kill the heathen...
what do you do if your neighbors a heathen?

and as far as is concerned, I, a Pagan, have LITERALLY loved my neighbor. btw im gay :fluffle::):D

im not launching a flame war, i see this shit happen all the time. i dont wear my Pentacle for you, im not on display for you. im not kissing a man in public to piss you off.

gods forbid someone other then a carbon copy of you can risk a smile.

when your end times come, ill be celebrating, as finally the sexist, homophobic, eco-cidal, ameri-centric horse shit will finally die.

you want irony, its us, those who gave a damn, who will suffer living in toxic smog, walking in the ash of our family, friends, grandparents, caused by a neuclear winter.

no gas, no plastic, no electricity, no forests, no fish.

ill kill myself on Stonehenge, which will fall down in about 20 years from some asshole who thought it was a good idea to destroy it with auto traffic less then 5 k. away. (terrain vibration)

-Rafe
Legion of the Damned,
not by choice, but by your one "loving" god.

Fighting God is a losing battle. Scott Card once used the idea of a chess game with one side having only pawns and the other set up with a double compliment of knights, bishops, rooks and a pair of extra queens.
I'd say something like that would be appropriate, only the person has only one pawn and God isnt playing chess at all.

Hel is a nice lady once you get to know her.
Cerberus, and Kerberos are more then happy to catch frisbees i throw their way.
Charon just wants a cigarette.
Hades wins me at chess.
errr...

its your ar-ma-gay-don. you burn in it. seriously, how the fuck is this supposed to happen again:
ohhh...right...your all-loving crusades-starting one-god is going to come down and punish for all time immortal, those who never followed him?

here is a question for you: if it says love your neighbor, and somewhere else it says kill the heathen...
what do you do if your neighbors a heathen?

and as far as is concerned, I, a Pagan, have LITERALLY loved my neighbor. btw im gay :fluffle::):D

im not launching a flame war, i see this shit happen all the time. i dont wear my Pentacle for you, im not on display for you. im not kissing a man in public to piss you off.

gods forbid someone other then a carbon copy of you can risk a smile.

when your end times come, ill be celebrating, as finally the sexist, homophobic, eco-cidal, ameri-centric horse shit will finally die.

you want irony, its us, those who gave a damn, who will suffer living in toxic smog, walking in the ash of our family, friends, grandparents, caused by a neuclear winter.

no gas, no plastic, no electricity, no forests, no fish.

ill kill myself on Stonehenge, which will fall down in about 20 years from some asshole who thought it was a good idea to destroy it with auto traffic less then 5 k. away. (terrain vibration)

-Rafe
Legion of the Damned,
not by choice, but by your one "loving" god.

wow, wasnt expecting that one. no offense, i dont care how people are sexaully as long as it dosnt involve me somehow.

I've seen one too many animes so I have to wait for my clone to decide his destiny before I decide the exact opposite for some reason. And yes there will be swords.

mainly for those that believe in a higher power (God, allah, Vishnu, Chuck Norris, ...).


say you noticed signs of the end times and you were pretty sure they were correct and that this meant that the end was very near. would you try and delay the end of the world? or would you just let everything run its course without resistance?

I'd try to stop anyone trying to stop the "end." Why?

Because such an "end" in a religious sense is never going to happen, and so anyone trying to stop such an "end" is probably going to fuck up something, be it scientific experimentation, general good sense in law-making, or what have you. They'd screw it up, so I would stop them.

trying to stop "the" "end" is what i'm doing running off at the keyboard on various forums now. and while i do believe there are, or are at least likely to be, both nontangable awairnessess and those that are greater then ourselves, and yes, both, i don't see them as being directly relivant to how WE are very possibly ending this earth's ability to continue to enable the existence of our own species.

=^^=
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I'd pray for others, and try to spread the Gospel to as many people as I could. There is no stopping God's plans, not even delaying them.

Unless, of course, Vulcan happens to be a close, personal acquaintance.

Judges 1:19
And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

:eek:

I would personally try and stop the end, regardless of how and/or why the end was occuring.

Sure, humanity is shit a lot of the time but there's an awful lot of good stuff we can do and discover. Therefore, if science is making a mistake and 'causing the end, then I'd obviously try to stop it, no one really wants an apolcalypse, do they?

Even if it were a higher being I'd try and stop them (even if it gets me zapped) because what makes them so higher anyways(I know the obvious answers there, I just don't believe them, I can't believe that one thing is inherently better than another)? Even if they can create a universe and life, so what? It's a skill or a talent or jsut being very smart, it doesn't make you any better and deserving of making judgements than being able to play basketball or build a house does.

But since I don't believe one exists, that's kind of a moot point :\

Damn, I thought I'd get a few pages out of that, overplayed my hand :(

Sleep well.....SINNER!

:)

Oh, You.... Evil..... Bastard!

I would try to delay it. Not only because I'd feel guilty for not doing so but also because there are so many things I want to do and understand in life like marrying the woman of my dreams and having my own business. I've been empty recently in those areas and I want to make up for that.


Ya mean for those how belive in a higher power, and who's religois myths include an end times?

Since I dont believe in religious bullshit, if the universe were to end, it would be because of a natural cause.

That means I would try to stop it from hapening. From crashing my jet towards the main gun of the alien ship to blowing the meteor using all the nukes from earth.

Since I dont believe in religious bullshit, if the universe were to end, it would be because of a natural cause.

That means I would try to stop it from hapening. From crashing my jet towards the main gun of the alien ship to blowing the meteor using all the nukes from earth.

None of which would do a damned thing on a universal scale. In fact, there is absolutely nothing we could do to stop any sort of true universal ending, as it would require ridiculous feats of technology so far beyond us that we will never reach it.

Wait, who am I kidding? I'll probably be the one that fucks up and destroys the damn planet in the first place.

I'd buy sweeties and watch the show :)

Wait, who am I kidding? I'll probably be the one that fucks up and destroys the damn planet in the first place.

This presumes you will ever be in a position of power. You are all flash no furor.

None of which would do a damned thing on a universal scale. In fact, there is absolutely nothing we could do to stop any sort of true universal ending, as it would require ridiculous feats of technology so far beyond us that we will never reach it.

Yes.

But if it was to be such a feat that would destroy the entire universe, would we even know about it? I doubt it.

Anyway, worrying about this sort of stuff is like freaking out because in 10 billion years the sun might explode.

My gods demand death, and I will oblige. I'm the only one to say "Believe in a higher power and will stop anyone trying to stop the end".

I'm a bloody little ray of sunshine, aren't I?

This presumes you will ever be in a position of power. You are all flash no furor.

Yeah, but it's the flashy people that are the incompetent ones.

Anyway, worrying about this sort of stuff is like freaking out because in 10 billion years the sun might explode.

Five billion, actually, and probably not so spectacular as "explode".

My gods demand death, and I will oblige. I'm the only one to say "Believe in a higher power and will stop anyone trying to stop the end".

I'm a bloody little ray of sunshine, aren't I?

Well then, we'll be forced to fight in The End of Days, as I will be obliged to stop the end.

I would sit this one out. I tried to stop the beginning, and look how well that ended up.

This presumes you will ever be in a position of power. You are all flash no furor.

"Greetings Vetalia, shall we play a game?" :eek:

There's nothing anyone can do to stop the coming of Quetzlcoatl.


BTW: Chuck Norris jokes are so last year.

I would stop it even though I believe in a supream being, if only to stop the human suffering that would inevitably result from it being the end of the world.

As little truck as I place by scripture or prophecy of any sort, I would fight to stop anyone who sought to destroy the world, be they devil or divine.

"Greetings Vetalia, shall we play a game?" :eek:

"Of course, I'd love to play global thermonuclear war. What could go wrong?"

Since I'd probably be one of those punished, I would try to stop it.

I'd consider it my duty to try and stop the 'end.' I'm Agnostic, but if there turned out to be a God bent on massacring all the people of the world, I would have to try and stop him, futile as it may be.

Of course I'd try and stop the End - I haven't finished Final Fantasy XII yet!

I'd probably just make the most of the time left

I would try or stop the end, but not both.

On the one hand, there are so many things that I wish to do.

On the other hand, the End Times according to Judaism are something to look forward to.

The only bad thing that happens during the End Times is the "War of Gog and Magog". However, when the End Times come, this will already be happening. Attempting to end it would only hasten the End Times.

Everything else is good: the Messiah comes, the Third Temple is built (sorry, Muslims, but you forgot to apply for planning permission;)), and the entire world will realize that the Jews have been right all along. After that, we all go to heaven.

My summary is this: If the history of the universe is a story, it will have a happy ending.

So, I would work to hasten the End Times, since there isn't anything I want to do now that I can't do after the Messiah comes. The possibility of not being able to do science anymore because G-d will tell us all the laws of science exists, but if He is merciful (which He is), I doubt He would do that.

The heat death of the universe, should that be the correct theory, is completely inescapable and will end life in every form in every part of the universe, forever, without end. It cannot be escaped.

I will kill God. Serves him right for telling us how.

If God intended for the world to end, I would do my utmost to comply with his will.

Believe in a higher power. Also believe that the future is never set in stone. Individual and group actions resculpt future reality. Believe that the world is a "more than the sum of its parts" synergy of that which is present now, and how that present now acts. (BTW, that's how I view Divinity, as well. Based on and transcendent of the sum of its constituent parts, "If God didn't exist it would be necessary to create Him," "The Gods made humanity because They wanted to know what They were," Divinity created everything therefore everything has a little bit of the Divine in it, et alia)

Therefore, the signs of The End are a defined set of parameters that, by sheer law of averages, recurs again and again, has recurred again and again throughout history, and are subject to karma, on both the individual and synergistic planes.

In other words, I'd do what I could to change the course of events in whatever way I could. If it works, three cheers and a tiger, I join the rarified company of people who can say "I saved the world!" If it doesn't work...oh, well, we had a good run, enjoy the situation and ride it out.

I will kill God. Serves him right for telling us how.
Darth Plagus meets Darth Sidious meets Darth Tyranus meets Darth Vader.

If we're talking about a divine end, then there's really not much we can do to stop it, once the ball is rolling then that is it, game over man.

If it's a man-made end like a Nuclear Winter, then yea I'd try to stop it.

It's more fun to think what to do after the "end".

It's more fun to think what to do after the "end".

Free stuff in all of the stores! :D

mainly for those that believe in a higher power (God, allah, Vishnu, Chuck Norris, ...).


say you noticed signs of the end times and you were pretty sure they were correct and that this meant that the end was very near. would you try and delay the end of the world? or would you just let everything run its course without resistance?

God and Allah are the same thing, because in Arabic Allah means God, also the Jewish, Christian and Muslim God are the same person essentially.

If we're talking about a divine end, then there's really not much we can do to stop it, once the ball is rolling then that is it, game over man.

If it's a man-made end like a Nuclear Winter, then yea I'd try to stop it.
First step : nuclear disarmament.
Pre-emptive strike, hmmm?
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=15archive/&entry_id=17231
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/19/AR2007061901924.html
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http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/11/17/russia-missiles-041117.html

Just like the good old fucking days. Under the desk.

I never really understood the whole under desk thing. I mean comon it's a nuclear blast, that blast can knock down the fucking school. If you think a desk is going to protect you, then you need to be in the 'special' class room.My thoughts exactly.

First step : nuclear disarmament.
Pre-emptive strike, hmmm?
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=15archive/&entry_id=17231
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/19/AR2007061901924.html
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http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/11/17/russia-missiles-041117.html

Just like the good old fucking days. Under the desk.

I never really understood the whole under desk thing. I mean comon it's a nuclear blast, that blast can knock down the fucking school. If you think a desk is going to protect you, then you need to be in the 'special' class room.

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Yeah, dammit, I would fight. Some minor prophet tries to cash in my life, the lives I believe others to have, all the pomp and substance of human society for the confirmation of their winning scenario, they can expect a very sudden and sincere punch in the face.

And then we break out the booze. And have a ball.

"There is no higher power than humankind."

That hurts. It is like swallowing poison, then holding it down because ... because ... oh, it's just like swallowing poison and holding it down.

It hurts. There is a buyers market for Gods.

Suicide. The perfectionists solution: the withdrawal of the will from the intractible materials.

It is your little body, and your little life. Look after it, cultivate it and make it all it can be. When you start making decisions for others (let alone all of creation) look out: your spirit is rebelling against its humble carriage. It seeks Godhood, it despises its humble, human origin. It claims the fame which is not its to give. It speaks to history, an insensate moron who only hears what is beaten into it.

Turn away from that. If you are right-handed, turn towards the warmth within a few inches of your right hand. Reach inwards. That warmth, there. You are a living creature ... you have far more than the mind to rely on. And far more than history to speak to.

*goes away*

I never really understood the whole under desk thing. I mean comon it's a nuclear blast, that blast can knock down the fucking school. If you think a desk is going to protect you, then you need to be in the 'special' class room.

Haha. Yes. I found that funny once.

The fucking school is made of bricks, or concrete or wooden timbers. That shit falling on you could kill you. Getting under a desk would improve your chances of survival.

Yes, I agree. It was all very silly, an abdication of responsibility, a devolution of common sense. Those idiots were "hoping for peace while planning for war." They were 20th-century cavemen, reduced to primitive simplicity by finding in their grasp an almost unbelievably powerful stick.

I would still get under the desk when the big bad russkies nuke my school. It would improve my chances of survival. Argue with that.

*really does go away*