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Holy S***!

Sel Appa
20-06-2007, 00:11
NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg) has officially left the Republican Party. The title is the first words out of my mouth upon reading this. Although I originally disliked him, I see that he is actually a good moderate. He was a lifelong Democrat and switched to Republicans because it would be easier to run for mayor. Many have speculated he might run for President and he is a billionaire that might spend a billion on his campaign. As mayor he accepts only $1 a year for salary. I think he would make a good president and would certainly vote for him.

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070619/ap_on_el_pr/bloomberg_politics)

NEW YORK - New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Tuesday switched his party status from Republican to unaffiliated, a stunning move certain to be seen as a prelude to an independent presidential bid that would upend the 2008 race.

The billionaire former CEO, who was a lifelong Democrat before he switched to the GOP for his first mayoral run, said the change in voter registration does not mean he is running for president.

"Although my plans for the future haven't changed, I believe this brings my affiliation into alignment with how I have led and will continue to lead our city," he said.

Despite his repeated claims, the mayor's decision to switch his party affiliation stokes the speculation that he will pursue the White House, challenging the Democratic and Republican nominees with a legitimate and well-financed third-party bid.

Bloomberg has an estimated worth of more than $5 billion and easily could underwrite a White House run, much like businessman Ross H. Perot in 1992.

The 65-year-old mayor has fueled the buzz with increasing out-of-state travel, a greater focus on national issues and repeated criticism of the partisan politics that dominate Washington.

"The politics of partisanship and the resulting inaction and excuses have paralyzed decision-making, primarily at the federal level, and the big issues of the day are not being addressed, leaving our future in jeopardy," he said in a speech Monday at the start of a University of Southern California conference about the advantages of nonpartisan governing.

A Bloomberg entry would roil the already volatile and wide-open race to succeed
President Bush.

"If he runs, this guarantees a Republican will be the next president of the United States. The Democrats have to be shaking in their boots," said Greg Strimple, a Republican strategist in New York who is unaligned in the race.

The belief among some operatives is that Bloomberg's moderate positions would siphon votes from the Democratic nominee. Others say it's not that cut and dry; they say whom he would draw from depends on the nominees.

Should Bloomberg enter the race, the number of New Yorkers who are serious contenders would rise to three. New York Sen.
Hillary Rodham Clinton is the Democratic front-runner and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani leads the GOP field in national polls.

Throughout his 5 1/2 years as mayor, Bloomberg has often been at odds with his party and President Bush. He supports gay marriage, abortion rights, gun control and stem cell research, and raised property taxes to help solve a fiscal crisis after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

But he never seemed willing to part with the GOP completely, raising money for the 2004 presidential convention and contributing to Bush and other Republican candidates.

Just last year, he told a group of Manhattan Republicans about his run for mayor: "I couldn't be prouder to run on the Republican ticket and be a Republican."

In 1992, Perot captured 19 percent of the popular vote as
Bill Clinton seized the presidency from incumbent George H.W. Bush.
Katganistan
20-06-2007, 00:16
Wouldn't that be the ultimate flip-flopper?
Sel Appa
20-06-2007, 00:17
Wouldn't that be the ultimate flip-flopper?

I believe everyone except Hilary Clinton can change their mind and shouldn't be ridiculed for it.
Jeruselem
20-06-2007, 00:17
Rats leaving a sinking ship? :p:D
Katganistan
20-06-2007, 00:22
I believe everyone except Hilary Clinton can change their mind and shouldn't be ridiculed for it.

Seriously: I'm a Democrat. Oh, no, wait, I'm really a Republican. No, darn, what I meant is I'm independent....
The_pantless_hero
20-06-2007, 00:22
The guy is right, if Bloomberg runs seriously, he will hand the Republicans the White House for another four years. And the winner will be as equally bad as Bush. The Republicans have a hardcore, unshakable base voting for them solely because they are Republican and are therefore more moral and good. The Democrats have very little hardcore base and are full of swing voters, and Bloomberg would take the truly middle ground swing voters splitting those two votes between him and the head Democrat leaving the Republican candidate wide open for the lead.
UN Protectorates
20-06-2007, 00:23
I like his principled choice on the matter of his mayoral salary.

Nothing like our British MP's who are clamouring to be given the same wages as doctors, and other trained professionals... :mad:
The_pantless_hero
20-06-2007, 00:23
The only chance he would have of not screwing over the Democrats and the country is if Hillary runs.
New Granada
20-06-2007, 00:26
Not a chance in hell, he is virulently opposed to the second amendment.
Sel Appa
20-06-2007, 00:26
He is going to take a a lot of Republican votes too...especially moderate ones who are sick of the crap Bush has been spewing but want to vote Republican-y.
Caanis Lupus
20-06-2007, 00:30
With how he showed total disregard for lawful practices when doing his illegal firearm "stings". :upyours:

He is billionaire...no need for a salary...this is about the same as if any of us were offered a job for $5 a year.

Fred Thompson is looking good.
Katganistan
20-06-2007, 00:33
You'd love him less if you lived here.

He instituted parking regs where you feed the meters on Sundays (you never had to before), has called for ticket blitzes punishing (among others) old people feeding pigeons, pregnant women sitting on the Subway stairs because they were nauseous and dizzy, would like people to pay above and beyond the tolls they already pay to enter the city, has in many ways damaged the NYC public school system by taking direct control of it (to get a real sense, don't listen to his press releases -- look at what the NY State Board of Regents has said from the state capital), etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.

He wants NYC to be green (laudable) so he is going to place a $30 surcharge on every household that uses energy. He wants CF bulbs everywhere, despite the fact that they're a pain in the tail to dispose of properly, and does not want incandescent bulbs sold past 2012.

He's REALLY popular down in Virginia for entrapment of and lawsuits against gun dealers. Yes. In another state.

Still sounding pretty rosy? Cause it sounds like more cowboy 'tough shit if you don't like it' politics to me.
UN Protectorates
20-06-2007, 00:37
You'd love him less if you lived here.

He instituted parking regs where you feed the meters on Sundays (you never had to before), has called for ticket blitzes punishing (among others) old people feeding pigeons, pregnant women sitting on the Subway stairs because they were nauseous and dizzy, would like people to pay above and beyond the tolls they already pay to enter the city...


It sounds like he'd find a kindred spirit with Ken Livingstone, mayor of London.
Katganistan
20-06-2007, 00:39
It sounds like he'd find a kindred spirit with Ken Livingstone, mayor of London.

Yeah, guess where he got the idea of "congestion pricing" from?

Aside from that, he's all for spending money on sport stadiums we've made VERY CLEAR as his constituents that we DO NOT WANT.
Dobbsworld
20-06-2007, 01:16
So, he's a cynic. Colour me unsurprised. I hope none of you actually get sucked in by this manouevre.
Walther Realized
20-06-2007, 01:27
Not a chance in hell, he is virulently opposed to the second amendment.

Seconded. Seems like there isn't a single candidate in a position to run that I'd want to vote for. All the mostly sensible ones drop the ball on gun control.
Lacadaemon
20-06-2007, 02:53
He instituted parking regs where you feed the meters on Sundays (you never had to before), has called for ticket blitzes punishing (among others) old people feeding pigeons, pregnant women sitting on the Subway stairs because they were nauseous and dizzy, would like people to pay above and beyond the tolls they already pay to enter the city, has in many ways damaged the NYC public school system by taking direct control of it (to get a real sense, don't listen to his press releases -- look at what the NY State Board of Regents has said from the state capital), etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.

He wants NYC to be green (laudable) so he is going to place a $30 surcharge on every household that uses energy. He wants CF bulbs everywhere, despite the fact that they're a pain in the tail to dispose of properly, and does not want incandescent bulbs sold past 2012.


All these things are totally awesome. The only sucky thing he did was banning smoking in bars. I'm hoping for some real insanity now he's become an independent.

He is the greatest mayor that new york has ever had. (Which admittedly is not saying that much).
Lacadaemon
20-06-2007, 02:56
All these things are totally awesome. The only sucky thing he did was banning smoking in bars. I'm hoping for some real insanity now he's become an independent.

He is the greatest mayor that new york has ever had. (Which admittedly is not saying that much).

And I, for one, cannot wait for congestion pricing.
Katganistan
20-06-2007, 03:04
All these things are totally awesome. The only sucky thing he did was banning smoking in bars. I'm hoping for some real insanity now he's become an independent.

He is the greatest mayor that new york has ever had. (Which admittedly is not saying that much).

Damaging the education system is awesome?
Ticketing pregnant women for getting dizzy and sitting before they fall is awesome?

You have a pretty strange definition for awesome.
Lacadaemon
20-06-2007, 04:09
Damaging the education system is awesome?
Ticketing pregnant women for getting dizzy and sitting before they fall is awesome?

You have a pretty strange definition for awesome.

I'll reserve judgment on whether or not has been actually damaged if you don't mind.

And I'm glad someone finally made a stand about people cluttering up pedestrian access in the subway.
Troglobites
20-06-2007, 04:14
pssd, one dollar a year, I could do it for ninety nine cents.