NationStates Jolt Archive

I disagree that 'most' people think you should abstain until marriage.

Yeah, what?

Agreed. I think this also agrees with my earier argument about how sex itself is not the cause, society (and I now include abuse and other such matters) is. So we agree. Jolly good.

Sex isn't the cause of STD's either, it doesn't mean they aren't related. If your point is that sex isn't the cause then the point is rather nonsensical and pointless.

Yeah, what?

Here in Texas about 60% of the population reports being sexually active by the time they were 18. Either that or 60% of 18 year olds are sexually active, I'm not sure which. Either way, the majority of people here do not wait for marriage.

EDIT: Reading your post I think you may have been trying to agree with him. It's hard to tell on the Internet. Anyway if this is the case I agree as well.

I've read the entire thread, and I'm overwhelmed by the amount of arguing that's gone on between a few posters. Smunkeeville and Jocabia (and a few others that have chimed in, Bottle for example) you're doing a great job. Cabra West, I agree with a lot of what you've written - you make a lot of sense, only it seems to me that you're pretty frustrated that your questions, apparently aren't being answered.

I've been told over and over again in this thread that waiting till marriage makes sex "safer", implying that sex outside marriage is dangerous, but so far nobody cared to answer my questions as to what makes sex such a horrendous risk to life and limb.
Both STDs and unwanted pregancies and single parenthood can occur in a marriage as well as outside, so that can't be it really. What is it then?

Your question has been answered a number of times - except not in a very clear and concise way, I'll admit. I'd have to search all over the thread to find the many posts that relate to it and I simply don't have the time or the energy required to do that. I don't recall any mention of sex outside marriage being "dangerous" just that statistically you are far less likely to catch an STD within marriage (particularly if neither partner has had sex before marriage) than outside it. You really can't argue against facts like that.

And again I don't recall any poster implying that sex is "a horrendous risk to life and limb" just that one should be aware of the emotional and psychological consequences for some as well as the more obvious physical ones.

Yes STDs, single parenthood and unwanted pregnancies can happen within marriage. But they are less likely to happen. If you can't acknowledge the fact that there is a difference between something that happens often in case A next to something that happens less often in case B then I'm afraid that you are a lost cause.