NationStates Jolt Archive

'spet *bumps knuckles in a ghettoesque manner*

It's called "the pound" or "pounding it".

Have you ever heard of flag-bearers? They were courageous men given the honorable duty of carrying the flag in battle. They didn't have rifles nor weapons of any sort; their sole duty was to proudly hold the flag up high. Many died for the flag, and their sacrifice is remembered every time an ungrateful, despicable man burns such a flag. Such an act negates their incredible bravery and is a slap in the face to what they fought and died for.

Not. Even. Close.

Bringing up the standard-bearers of the US Civil War as an example of "dying for the flag" as opposed to what that really is: dying while holding the flag, is so disingenuous as to defy description. On top of that, you automatically assume that anyone who disagrees with your flag-humping definition of patriotism is pissing on the veterans. You haven't got the arguing skills present in a 3rd grader, sir. As a member of a family of veterans, I can tell you with full authority that no man has ever died for the piece of cloth assembled to a stick that you're fighting so vainly and martyrically to "defend".

Standard bearers did their jobs, much like the fife-and-drum players in wars before that. You're basically saying that a Revolutionary War drummer shot while playing a marching cadence DIED FOR HIS DRUM! I know that won't make even a cursory dent in your inflamed and diseased sense of masturbatory country-love, but my sense of locig and optimism couldn't help typing it anyway.

You go on deluding yourself if you wish. I'll have no more of it. Your willingness to swallow and then regurgitate such cognitive dissonance disgusts me more than a legion of flag burners. Why? Because flag burners are making a point. You're just lying to make yourself feel better.

George Carlin

Well spotted!

Point to an actual poll, with random sampling and statistical analysis, that states that the majority of Americans agree with you on any given topic, and I'll think about it. Then I'll ask for the actual questions (The way a question is asked can have a huge impact on a polls outcome) and for the margin of error. Keeping always in mind the truism about lies, damn lies, and statistics.

99.97% of the population of the U.S.A likes to live. I am automatically correct on all of my opinions!

This really winds me up because i know there should be a slow process for the world to become a world goverment and not all the separate countries having proxi wars and going all nationalist (BNP, united states national party,etcetera...)
Because once we have world government humanity can finally end war, disease etc and head for the stars and create a human empire. The imperium of man has a cool ring to it.

Can I be the monarch of it?

Anyway we would have to make sure that we could accept aliens into the fold, otherwise we would be freaky xenophobes.

This may be a bit hard for you to comprehend, but try actually admitting that you're wrong once in a while instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting, "La, la, la, la!"
Pot, meet kettle. Given that you've still yet to post anything relevant to back up your posts YOU complaining about people plugging their ears and saying "La, la, la, la!" is more than laughable.

are you aware that there are laws governing the use of a flag, you should look them up. displaying a flag is actually illegal if done incorrectly, and most americains incorrectly display there flags. if you watch a military ceremony and the colors do present colors, all flags are dipped except the amaericain flag, and this is even done in international ceremonies. this is because being that it is the symbol of our nation it isnt bowed to anyone, and yet most flag displays are at an angle. these flags are also generally torn, tatered etc. from constant flying, this is also wrong as there are laws governing when to fly a flag, you cant just have it up at any given time. and actually, when a flag gets old, you are suppose to burn it, it is a private ceremony conducted by only 2 peaple typically, but you are actually suppose to burn the flag.

There are not "laws". There are guidelines. The non-dipping of the flag started in the 1936 Berlin Olympics when it was decided to take a poke at Hitler by not dipping the flag to him. It became a tradition, but not a law.

There are not "laws". There are guidelines. The non-dipping of the flag started in the 1936 Berlin Olympics when it was decided to take a poke at Hitler by not dipping the flag to him. It became a tradition, but not a law.

Nope.

It was the 1908 Olympic games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code). London. King Edward VII.

Nice try, though.

The American flag is an integral part of our heritage:
*stops reading*

Most Australians can recognize the Australian flag.

*offers beer*

Most Australians can recognize the Australian flag.

*offers beer*

I actually consider this to be our proper flag, not that colonial relic we have now.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Eureka_Flag.svg

Most Australians can recognize the Australian flag.

*offers beer*

Ewww, VB. I find the NZ flag just as good though.

the arrogance of soverignty, may, by some deffinicians, have aquired the patina of traditon. honor is NOT among its possessions, let alone earned ones.

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incedently, the red in every flag that has it, and a vast majority of flags of nations seem to, represents bloodshed and the putting of soverignty as a concept, ahead of the value of human lives.

white, we were taught in school when i was that age, represented purity, which in reality is a self deceptive mythological concept.

the dark blue represents the night sky, and by implication the rest of the universe, and implication its approval. one that has never been sought nor given.

the stars, by representing the states, so symbolize the concept of federalism.

all in all though, it IS an ugly concatination and arraingment of colors, with or without what they represent or are purported to.

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And thus, the flaws in any such proposed measure. Would it apply only to actual, physical, cloth flags, made by specific companies with specific attributes? Would it apply to representations of flags? Funeral flags burned in a house fire?

Or could a person make a cardbaord cut out in the shape of a loathed country and burn that?

are you aware that there are laws governing the use of a flag, you should look them up. displaying a flag is actually illegal if done incorrectly, and most americains incorrectly display there flags. if you watch a military ceremony and the colors do present colors, all flags are dipped except the amaericain flag, and this is even done in international ceremonies. this is because being that it is the symbol of our nation it isnt bowed to anyone, and yet most flag displays are at an angle. these flags are also generally torn, tatered etc. from constant flying, this is also wrong as there are laws governing when to fly a flag, you cant just have it up at any given time. and actually, when a flag gets old, you are suppose to burn it, it is a private ceremony conducted by only 2 peaple typically, but you are actually suppose to burn the flag.

Fail

They are not laws