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What's your favorite scapegoat?

Zarakon
16-06-2007, 16:41
Basically, what's your favorite scapegoat people use when something bad happens?

I've always liked blaming heavy metal and alternative music, simply because it's just such a ridiculous thing to claim. It's got even less legs then the video game scapegoat.
Free Soviets
16-06-2007, 16:46
teh space joos
Etoile Arcture
16-06-2007, 16:52
Damn! I can't blame heavy metal and video games? Doesn't leave much, does it? :lol:

I'll take "the media" please. I'm not sure who "the media" exactly are, and if I was American, I would probably have meant "the liberal media"...
Dundee-Fienn
16-06-2007, 16:52
Students
Whereyouthinkyougoing
16-06-2007, 16:53
Ruffy.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
16-06-2007, 16:53
Seriously: immigrants/"foreigners"

:rolleyes:
Oklatex
16-06-2007, 16:57
I didn't fart, it must have been the cat. :eek:
Drunk commies deleted
16-06-2007, 16:57
The hippie-industrial complex. Fucking hemp-clad communist bong salesmen are fucking up everything.
Call to power
16-06-2007, 16:58
the dog ;)

edit: curse you Oklatex!
Hamilay
16-06-2007, 16:58
[adjective] media...
Ashmoria
16-06-2007, 17:10
conflict of interest but

MOTHERS

if mothers have such great control over their children why isnt my son in medical school, dammit?
Neesika
16-06-2007, 17:18
USians.

Even though some of you are fine folks.
Johnny B Goode
16-06-2007, 17:22
USians.

Even though some of you are fine folks.

Canadians. :p

Actually, my favorites to see are rock (mostly because I'm the biggest/last metalhead in America) and video games (because my brother is a huge fan of PC shooters). And the liberal bias excuse.
Dobbsworld
16-06-2007, 17:27
Oh, dang - I thought it was going to be about our own personal scapegoats. I was going to blame Militarism.
Zilam
16-06-2007, 17:29
I blamed mexicans the other day, when my mom asked my why i didn't have a job..
New Genoa
16-06-2007, 17:35
I always blame canada.
Markeliopia
16-06-2007, 17:48
A professor told me the word scapegoat comes from sacrificing an innocent goat to God so the goat could absorb the sins of the community.

So I was thinking, today it is the Jews that are blamed for pay and for the sins of everyone else, how ironic :eek:
Johnny B Goode
16-06-2007, 17:54
A professor told me the word scapegoat comes from sacrificing an innocent goat to God so the goat could absorb the sins of the community.

So I was thinking, today it is the Jews that are blamed for pay and for the sins of everyone else, how ironic :eek:

Didn't they let the goat escape into the desert? (Same end, different means)
Markeliopia
16-06-2007, 17:55
Didn't they let the goat escape into the desert? (Same end, different means)

I must have been partily sleeping durring that lecture
Regressica
16-06-2007, 17:57
Liberal media and/or political correctness.
Kryozerkia
16-06-2007, 17:58
My favourite? Either religion or conservatism. :)
Johnny B Goode
16-06-2007, 18:26
I must have been partily sleeping durring that lecture

Could just be that I heard a different version.
United Beleriand
16-06-2007, 19:54
Why use scapegoats? Just put the blame where it belongs.
Aggressor nation
16-06-2007, 20:04
Transvestites
Leeladojie
16-06-2007, 20:04
The industrial military complex. (dun dun duuunnnnn)
UN Protectorates
16-06-2007, 20:20
Cronyism.
Curious Inquiry
16-06-2007, 20:53
Ruffy.

QFT :p
Desperate Measures
16-06-2007, 20:59
Phrenologists.
Dobbsworld
16-06-2007, 21:04
Phrenologists.

Well according to the bumps on your head, you were of course liable to blame phrenologists.
Desperate Measures
16-06-2007, 21:05
Well according to the bumps on your head, you were of course liable to blame phrenologists.

You people are everywhere!
New Manvir
16-06-2007, 22:13
The Simpsons
Soleichunn
16-06-2007, 22:19
conflict of interest but

MOTHERS

if mothers have such great control over their children why isnt my son in medical school, dammit?

You know what?

Your mother!

I blame the Kraken.
Volkinia
16-06-2007, 22:26
Varmints.
1010102
16-06-2007, 23:07
9/11. It worked for bush for 6 years.

"Why didn't you finish your homework?"

"9/11"
Christmahanikwanzikah
16-06-2007, 23:12
-The dog
-Diarrea
-A migraine
-My computer
-Communists/Fascists/Terrorists/Anti-Iraqi Figthers/Muslims/George Bush (:p)
-Christian fundamentalists
-Richard Dawkins
-The Aurora Borealis
-Stephen King
-Dan/Dale Brown
-My ingrown toenail
-The Iraq/Gulf war
-Star Wars
-Music

and, finally

-Myself
Soleichunn
16-06-2007, 23:22
You should only have one favourite. I blame your mother for that :D .
Christmahanikwanzikah
16-06-2007, 23:23
You should only have one favourite. I blame your mother for that :D .

Oh, so it was supposed to be my favourite?

I blame the liberal media! :p
New Granada
16-06-2007, 23:36
Oldies but goodies - jews and freemasons.
Forsakia
17-06-2007, 00:23
Didn't one of the republicans blame 'the intelligentsia' for something a while back. It's those damn clever people that are the problem.
Zarakon
17-06-2007, 01:36
USians.

Even though some of you are fine folks.

Please tell me you aren't seriously using the term "USians".

If you are, keep in mind that it's typically for a group of people to decide what they wish to be called. For example, to grab from your political correctness stance, if people did not have the ability to determine what they would like to be called, black people would still be referred to by the n-bomb. Frankly, the term "USian" is silly and, frankly, stupid.


Actually, my favorites to see are rock (mostly because I'm the biggest/last metalhead in America)

Hold up, that's not true. I'm in America and a metalhead.
Troglobites
17-06-2007, 01:39
Rednecks
Ganstahs
Banditos




And the rain.
Johnny B Goode
17-06-2007, 01:46
Hold up, that's not true. I'm in America and a metalhead.

I know one other personally, actually. Except he's more of a Pantera/Ozzy Osbourne fan, while I'm a diehard Black Sabbath/Dio fan. I just feel that way occasionally. (My history teacher likes old-school rap...from last month! :( While dismissing heavy metal and rock as noise)
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
17-06-2007, 01:48
Oldies but goodies - jews and freemasons.

Couldn't agree more. The classics always work for me. :)
Sane Outcasts
17-06-2007, 01:49
The Devil.

He made me do it, I swear.
Secret aj man
17-06-2007, 01:51
Basically, what's your favorite scapegoat people use when something bad happens?

I've always liked blaming heavy metal and alternative music, simply because it's just such a ridiculous thing to claim. It's got even less legs then the video game scapegoat.

i like to blame everyone but myself..lol...it's the jews/homos/immigrants fault.
we should just bomb them.
then at the end of the day when all my enemies are dead..i get to look in the mirror
Ifreann
17-06-2007, 01:51
I don't blame it on the sunshine. Don't blame it on the moonlight. Don't blame it on the good times. I blame it on the boogey.

*moonwalks*
Zarakon
17-06-2007, 01:52
I still like Hillary Clinton's "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy".

I mean, it sounds like she's some tinfoil hat wearing homeless woman, not the first lady of the United States (Which is what she was, at the time she said it.)
Zarakon
17-06-2007, 01:55
The Devil.

He made me do it, I swear.

The Son of Sam's excuse was better.

Cookies for whoever can tell me the Son of Sam's excuse without looking it up.

I know one other personally, actually. Except he's more of a Pantera/Ozzy Osbourne fan, while I'm a diehard Black Sabbath/Dio fan. I just feel that way occasionally. (My history teacher likes old-school rap...from last month! :( While dismissing heavy metal and rock as noise)

I like Sabbath, though I haven't really listened to Dio. I like thrash and death metal, to be honest. Some power metal. Used to like Linkin Park...But they sound kind of sucky to me now.
Ifreann
17-06-2007, 01:56
The Son of Sam's excuse was better.

Cookies for whoever can tell me the Son of Sam's excuse without looking it up.

God told him to do it?[/wildguess]
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
17-06-2007, 01:56
I still like Hillary Clinton's "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy".

I mean, it sounds like she's some tinfoil hat wearing homeless woman, not the first lady of the United States (Which is what she was, at the time she said it.)

That one still makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. :p She sure did play the fool.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
17-06-2007, 01:57
God told him to do it?[/wildguess]

I thought it was his neighbor's dog. :p

Edit: Or that was the form that "Sam" took, at least. Or something.
Ifreann
17-06-2007, 02:03
I thought it was his neighbor's dog. :p

Edit: Or that was the form that "Sam" took, at least. Or something.

I checked, and yes. Sam was his neighbour, and the dog was an ancient demon that told him to kill.
During questioning, Berkowitz told a tale that seemed to demand an insanity defense: the "Sam" mentioned in the first letter was one Sam Carr, a former neighbor of Berkowitz. Berkowitz claimed that Carr's dog, Harvey, was possessed by an ancient demon, and that it issued commands to Berkowitz to kill. Berkowitz said he once tried to kill the dog, only to see his aim spoiled due to supernatural interference.
Zarakon
17-06-2007, 02:06
I thought it was his neighbor's dog. :p


Yes. It's the most awesome scapegoat of all time. "MY NEIGHBOR'S DOG MADE ME DO IT!"

Admittedly, not as compact as "The Devil Made Me Do It".
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
17-06-2007, 02:06
I checked, and yes. Sam was his neighbour, and the dog was an ancient demon that told him to kill.

Wild stuff. Sounds too crazy to believe, but then again, Berkowicz supposedly calmly confessed the whole thing to cops immediately after he was arrested, so I can sort of believe it.
Troglobites
17-06-2007, 02:13
Wild stuff. Sounds too crazy to believe, but then again, Berkowicz supposedly calmly confessed the whole thing to cops immediately after he was arrested, so I can sort of believe it.

You know the creepiest thing? I went on one of the stream of information trips on wikipedia just last night. I started when I lookes a the scientific term for chimp, Pan Troglodytes; from troglodyte came caveman; from caveman came Yahoo, from gulliver's travels; yahoo was the term given to son of sam's letters to the police.:eek:
Zarakon
17-06-2007, 02:15
You know the creepiest thing? I went on one of the stream of information trips on wikipedia just last night. I started when I lookes a the scientific term for chimp, Pan Troglodytes; from troglodyte came caveman; from caveman came Yahoo, from gulliver's travels; yahoo was the term given to son of sam's letters to the police.:eek:

Are you implying that Yahoo.com is a secret means of distribution for the letters of the Son of Sam?
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
17-06-2007, 02:18
You know the creepiest thing? I went on one of the stream of information trips on wikipedia just last night. I started when I lookes a the scientific term for chimp, Pan Troglodytes; from troglodyte came caveman; from caveman came Yahoo, from gulliver's travels; yahoo was the term given to son of sam's letters to the police.:eek:

Nice. I've spent many an hour myself jumping from topic to topic like that. Wikipedia is evil, I say. :p
Johnny B Goode
17-06-2007, 02:19
I checked, and yes. Sam was his neighbour, and the dog was an ancient demon that told him to kill.

There's a really funny family story about Son of Sam. My dad came over from India in the 70s, to live in New York (Forest Hills, Queens). He was learning to drive, and so, every day after work, he practiced driving by going around in circles in his local neighborhood. Some paranoid person found this suspicious, because Son of Sam was on the loose at the time. A cop pulled him over and questioned him. Dad managed to convince the cop he wasn't Son of Sam, but this whole story is really hilarious.

EDIT: Damn, the cop never pulled him over.

I like Sabbath, though I haven't really listened to Dio. I like thrash and death metal, to be honest. Some power metal. Used to like Linkin Park...But they sound kind of sucky to me now.

I'm into old-school heavy. A little NWOBHM too.
Zarakon
17-06-2007, 02:24
I'm into old-school heavy. A little NWOBHM too.

Eh. I like grindcore. And we should probably stop hijacking the thread.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
17-06-2007, 02:25
There's a really funny family story about Son of Sam. My dad came over from India in the 70s, to live in New York (Forest Hills, Queens). He was learning to drive, and so, every day after work, he practiced driving by going around in circles in his local neighborhood. Some paranoid person found this suspicious, because Son of Sam was on the loose at the time. A cop pulled him over and questioned him. Dad managed to convince the cop he wasn't Son of Sam, but this whole story is really hilarious.

I'm into old-school heavy. A little NWOBHM too.

Most biopics about the Son of Sam don't make the NYPD look too intelligent. :p I saw one a few months back that, if true, showed that Son of Sam was on his way to kill someone when the cops caught him - so what does he do? Puts the gun on the ground, still in a brown paper bag. I guess the cops arrested him but left the bag there in the gutter until they had torn his apartment apart, found nothing, and finally asked him where the weapon was. :p
Zarakon
17-06-2007, 02:26
Most biopics about the Son of Sam don't make the NYPD look too intelligent. :p I saw one a few months back that, if true, showed that Son of Sam was on his way to kill someone when the cops caught him - so what does he do? Puts the gun on the ground, still in a brown paper bag. I guess the cops arrested him but left the bag there in the gutter until they had torn his apartment apart, found nothing, and finally asked him where the weapon was. :p

I've always wondered why the hell you would listen to your neighbor's dog, anyway.
Johnny B Goode
17-06-2007, 02:28
Most biopics about the Son of Sam don't make the NYPD look too intelligent. :p I saw one a few months back that, if true, showed that Son of Sam was on his way to kill someone when the cops caught him - so what does he do? Puts the gun on the ground, still in a brown paper bag. I guess the cops arrested him but left the bag there in the gutter until they had torn his apartment apart, found nothing, and finally asked him where the weapon was. :p

Heh heh. I always thought a biopic of Son of Sam should include that incident. If only as five-second comic relief.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
17-06-2007, 02:28
I've always wondered why the hell you would listen to your neighbor's dog, anyway.

Yeah, it's strange. My dogs are pretty damn stupid - no way I'd take their advice. :p
Zarakon
17-06-2007, 02:31
Yeah, it's strange. My dogs are pretty damn stupid - no way I'd take their advice. :p

I think I might've heard that the dog supposedly threatened to kill him...
New Anonia
17-06-2007, 02:34
Either Jesus or the commies, depending on who I'm trying to offend.
Zarakon
17-06-2007, 02:36
Either Jesus or the commies, depending on who I'm trying to offend.

I jokingly blame communism and accuse people of being communists on a regular basis.
New Anonia
17-06-2007, 02:47
I find it works best if the person actually is a communist and thinks you don't know :p
Zarakon
17-06-2007, 02:56
I find it works best if the person actually is a communist and thinks you don't know :p

I live in such a place that it's probably like a 40% chance of someone being a communist or socialist, and a 95% chance of them, at the very least, having left-wing views.
Soleichunn
17-06-2007, 03:00
I find it works best if the person actually is a communist and thinks you don't know :p

Thats sounds like something a terririst would say...
Yootopia
17-06-2007, 11:21
Jewish people.

Because I actually like all of the ones that I know, which does, I suppose, make them my "favourite" scapegoat.



Although if we're on about "favourite one to use as a scapegoat", that'd be The French *nods* (and because I'm an Englander, I can vaguely get away with it because it's quite obvious that I'm being ironic about it).
Soleichunn
17-06-2007, 14:51
Although if we're on about "favourite one to use as a scapegoat", that'd be The French *nods* (and because I'm an Englander, I can vaguely get away with it because it's quite obvious that I'm being ironic about it).

Why not blame the Welsh?
New Stalinberg
17-06-2007, 16:36
I typically blame it on the Godless Liberals, Democrats and sometimes them "Southpaws".
Turquoise Days
17-06-2007, 16:50
Free Soviets already said this, but the video is worth posting anyway - Jews in Space (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cAVJyBshh0)!
Brutland and Norden
17-06-2007, 16:51
myself. :(
Muravyets
17-06-2007, 17:30
Whoever happens to be standing next to me.

Incident occurs > points at other person > "I blame you for this!"

If no one is close enough to be blamed, then I blame Bush.

Rain interrupts small child's birthday party > "I blame Bush for this!"
RLI Rides Again
17-06-2007, 17:37
I blame the Evil Atheist Conspiracy.
United Chicken Kleptos
17-06-2007, 18:07
I still blame the Jews.