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What is politics like in your family, are yours the same, different, are there political discussions? My dad is a Democrat and I am a Libertarian, I'm not sure what my mom is, probably Republican. So it's very interesting in my house. I used to be a Democrat, but I changed during college, and ever since then my dad and I always had these political debates, which usually result in him calling me a Republican that doesn't want to be associated with Bush. I tried to get him to look at the Libertarian website, but he's just one of those people who think they're always right. So what is politics like in your family?

FYI: I may end up posting the Libertarian website URL all over the house on post it until he actually does some damn research on my party and what I believe in politically, what do you guys think?

My parents vote DUP (when they vote at all) and are pretty conservative I suppose. I've carried on their tradition of non-voting but with more liberal ideas scattered amongst my apathy

I'm a liberal, but I hate both parties. My dad is a staunch Republican and my brother and I often engage him in political debate. Unfortunately, because of my age, he can be condescending and tell I don't know enough (which is true in quite a few cases :() My dad will never vote Democrat, but if I felt I should, I might vote Republican.

I thought this thread was going to be about politics within a family (i.e. how your family interacts and tries to convince others within the family to choose their side et c)

Anyways... my parents are both conservatives. My dad got mad when the insurance company sent him a letter listing some changes in their terminology including the fact that "same sex domestic partners" would now be referred to as "married" my mom doesn't seem to take as many issues with this sort of thing, neither of them are particularly fond of immigrants or the universal healthcare either (they both voted Republican [they voted absentee since they live in Canada])... One of my sisters claims to be conservative, but it seems to me that she doesn't care and expressed concern when I was considering voting Liberal instead of NDP just so the conservatives wouldn't win in my riding (I voted NDP anyways and the Conservatives won by a fair number anyways), I think the same goes with my other sisters (they don't care, although one of them has expressed happiness when gay marriage was legalized)... I'm liberal, both socially and economically. I think that society should generally look after the unfortunate and that people should be free to do more or less whatever they want so long as it doesn't hurt other people.

My politics generally falls somewhere between progressive liberalism and social democrat, although my views on some issues such as how the government should deal with drugs fall outside the mainstream. I would vote Liberal Democrat in UK elections. My Dad is right-wing on many social issues, and would probably be better off under a Conservative government as he is self-employed. However, he votes Labour purely because everyone in his family always has. I don't really know much about my Mum's political views, though I think she is fairly liberal. We don't really have political discussions, which is probably for the best, as I don't wish to hear any more lunatic rants about how the gays are disgusting and shouldn't be allowed public positions. In answer to your question, I'd probably leave it be. Parents have a natural desire to believe their political opinions to be superior, and it isn't really worth the potential hassle that can be caused by disturbing this assumption :)

Everyone in my immediate family is a godless liberal hippie. I found my dad's marijuana supply yesterday.

When I was about 7 and asked my mom what the difference was between a Republican and a Democrat, she said "The Republicans are the bad people who want to hurt hard workers like your Daddy and me." :p

Suffice it to say they were not conservative at all.

Dad - Republican. Er, the old style of Republican. I guess you could call him an angry Republican. He hates Bush and all that. I mean, the new Republicans call themslves conservative, but could someone tell me what the fuck they're actually trying to conserve?

Mom - Democrat. Eeew.

Me - Centrist.

Brother - He's 6.

My parents are both conservative though they both don't care for Dubya in the slightest which gives them some points in my opinion. I really avoid talking anything political with them as it doesn't lead to anything pleasant.

I'm leaning toward the Liberals (http://www.liberal.ca/default_e.aspx) and NDP (http://www.ndp.ca/)...my dad and mom are deeply Liberal...

my dad would describe himself as a social democrat i think. my mother is rather apolitical although until recently she had very conservative views and a bit was of a racist. she's had a bit of an awakening recently though, she's much more liberal. i don't really know how either would vote as we dont have political parties really in jersey, just a load of independents. i think my dad once said he would vote for labour if he could.

oh, and my sister generally agrees with my dad on everything, as i did til i was 16 or so. she's 18 now and i haven't seen her in a while for a proper conversation. she generally thinks i'm crazy when it comes to politics though.

Everyone in my immediate family is a godless liberal hippie. I found my dad's marijuana supply yesterday.
Your dad is cool.

No real discussion of politics in my house that I can remember - I'm somewhat conservative myself, if I had to apply a label. ;)

Everyone in my immediate family is a godless liberal hippie. I found my dad's marijuana supply yesterday.

You should've appropriated it for yourself (if you're into that kind of thing) and then denied all knowledge. :p

You should've appropriated it for yourself (if you're into that kind of thing) and then denied all knowledge. :p

Kinda hard to deny it if you're watching the Teletubbies and trying to have deep philosophical discussion with Po.

I don't know what I am anymore. :( I guess I can be Independent.

My mom is a Democrat (:() and my dad is also some weird mixture. bah.

My sister? she's 13 and doens't really care.

What is politics like in your family, are yours the same, different, are there political discussions? My dad is a Democrat and I am a Libertarian, I'm not sure what my mom is, probably Republican. So it's very interesting in my house. I used to be a Democrat, but I changed during college, and ever since then my dad and I always had these political debates, which usually result in him calling me a Republican that doesn't want to be associated with Bush. I tried to get him to look at the Libertarian website, but he's just one of those people who think they're always right. So what is politics like in your family?

FYI: I may end up posting the Libertarian website URL all over the house on post it until he actually does some damn research on my party and what I believe in politically, what do you guys think?


my father was a fiscal conservative,conservative in most arenas really.but he had a socially liberal side(especially after my mom died)and he became a deacon.obviously he was fiscally conservative as he had a phd in economics and was a project manager for a major defence contractor.gave that up to go do good deeds and such(after remarrying)
my mom was unbelievably liberal in everything except when it came to judging people,that she never did..ever.
imho opinion liberals like to think they are openminded..but only if you share their worldview.
my mom did not act like that..she was a tremendous human being and i miss her badly.

we had interesting banter around the dinner table.my older brother is a mad succesfull attorney and was staunchly conservative to the extreme.he has since transformed into an amalgam of socially conscious and as always fiscally conservative.
my sister who also passed was totally conservative..till the end,myself and my kid brother,well who knows,we are all over the map.

interesting post really,could probably do a uni study on the affects of your parents political beliefs and how they relate to our own,toss in the gender thing(girls gravitate to their fathers,unless abusive...and vice versa)
one could also consider the natural tendancy to rebel against the parents as we become adults,so we feel like individuals and such.
very thought provoking post,thank you.

My parents and brother vote VVD (classical liberals). I myself am a bit more progressive although I also believe in the market system :) The party that comes closest is D66 but without its democracy platform(look both of them up on wikipedia if you're interested)

My mom is a liberal, my dad a republican, I am a republican, and my bro couldn't give a shit either way.

Both of my parents vote democrat but they are actually very socially conservative.

My younger sister is going to be a conservative through and through, she already has the markings of it.

My youngest sister is going to turn out like me.

And me? Well, I'm a very liberal person with a few cross-over views.

Political discussion in my family is usually consists of me sitting down to read the paper at dinner and ranting across the room at mum about articles and letters to the editor that I don't like while she doesn't listen and just agrees with me until I keep quiet.

My old man I haven't seen it years. Probably a Republican if I had to take a guess.

Mom is an old hippy. Right now she doesn't like the repubs.

I'm not registered with any party but I am probably voting demo to clean out some repubs.

Wife is a diehard demo due to the fundi control of the repubs.

My uncle even though I love him to death is a hard core republican. The shrub is the best ever. Only thing better would be ol' Jeb :eek: It gets rather testy if politics is brought up.

My dad is a rabid socialist/hippie/environmentalist. He was using solar power way the hell back when, composting, recycling etc, long before it was ever mainstream. My mom is a rabid aboriginalist, which has never been popular. Oh, and a chain-pot-smoker.

The funny thing is, the two of them thought they were PC (progressive conservative) for years, because Western Canada has a very populist tradition...our conservatives dress themselves up as socialists. It took a few years, but I finally convinced them that they were nowhere near being PC. Thank god. Their votes go to the NDP at worst, the Greens if they run, but no mainstream party really fits the politics at my folk's house.

none as it not a thing in the family

My dad and his brother's (my uncles) are all really really conservative. My mom is also pretty conservative, though not as much as my dad. My grandparents range from "liberals" to "centrist-democrats"....but are all a bit to....racially concerned, let's say..to be leftists.

Fiscally, I'm right wing....socially, I have libertarian and conservative values. I'm supportive of Ron Paul...so I'd say I'm a Right Winger with libertarian tendancies. My brother (18) is a centrists...with values from the left and right. My sister and other brother are too young and don't know politics.

Go Ron Paul!

Fiscally, I'm right wing....socially, I have libertarian and conservative values. I'm supportive of Ron Paul...so I'd say I'm a Right Winger with libertarian tendancies. My brother (18) is a centrists...with values from the left and right. My sister and other brother are too young and don't know politics.

Go Ron Paul!
You forgot to mention your white supremacy.

Yay, another Ron Paul supporter! :)

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My dad and his brother's (my uncles) are all really really conservative. My mom is also pretty conservative, though not as much as my dad. My grandparents range from "liberals" to "centrist-democrats"....but are all a bit to....racially concerned, let's say..to be leftists.

Fiscally, I'm right wing....socially, I have libertarian and conservative values. I'm supportive of Ron Paul...so I'd say I'm a Right Winger with libertarian tendancies. My brother (18) is a centrists...with values from the left and right. My sister and other brother are too young and don't know politics.

Go Ron Paul!

Yay, another Ron Paul supporter! :)

Dad- Supports Ghouliani. Conservative.

Mom- Liberal-ish. She seems receptive to my anarchist ideas, though. Except on healthcare.

Brother- South Park conservative.

Me- Anarcho-capitalist.

You forgot to mention your white supremacy.
I suppose I should add that anthropology is a hobby of mine, as is sociology, and I simply that the type of multiculturalist soceity we are etertaining right now, does not work.

To some freaks like Neesika, this translates to White Supremacy, even though I could even easily describe her (since she is concerned for her culture and her people) as a follower of "yellow" supremacy.

I suppose I should add that anthropology is a hobby of mine, as is sociology, and I simply that the type of multiculturalist soceity we are etertaining right now, does not work.

To some freaks like Neesika, this translates to White Supremacy, even though I could even easily describe her (since she is concerned for her culture and her people) as a follower of "yellow" supremacy.

You advocate people of the same 'race' being with others of the same 'race'. Homelands. So yes. White supremacy. Racism. Call it what you want, it's as disgusting as ever. Oh, and your type usually call my people 'redskins' and save 'yellow' for the 'asians'.

Your 'concern for your culture and your people' see 'others' as a threat that must be neutralised. Goosestep along now.

Yay, another Ron Paul supporter! :)
Oh yeah baby. I'll be a freshman in University now and I've already joined the on campus Republican group...but as a supporter of Ron Paul and not of the dying Neo-Conservative idealogy.

I'm going to try to help out his campaign anyway I can.

You advocate people of the same 'race' being with others of the same 'race'. Homelands. So yes. White supremacy. Racism. Call it what you want, it's as disgusting as ever. Oh, and your type usually call my people 'redskins' and save 'yellow' for the 'asians'.

Your 'concern for your culture and your people' see 'others' as a threat that must be neutralised. Goosestep along now.
Actually, I don't advocate people of the same race being with other of the same race. I beleive in nationalism, a state for it's people. I'd never support mixing Russians and Germans together under one state simply because they are both White. That is White Nationalism and I have nothing to do with that, at all.

I don't want to "neutralise" others, just preserve the cultures and people who are dying out, fast....exactly the same as you want to do with your people and culture.

Exactly the same thing.

Actually, I don't advocate people of the same race being with other of the same race. I beleive in nationalism, a state for it's people. I'd never support mixing Russians and Germans together under one state simply because they are both White. That is White Nationalism and I have nothing to do with that, at all.

I don't want to "neutralise" others, just preserve the cultures and people who are dying out, fast....exactly the same as you want to do with your people and culture.

Exactly the same thing.
No.

Sorry.

I'm fine with cultural mixing, because I actually believe that on the whole, people are intelligent enough to keep what works, and discard what doesn't.

I speak three languages well, and a fourth passably. No harm to my culture or people in this.

I married outside my culture. Yet my children are comfortable with my people, my husbands people AND pretty much anyone else that comes along.

I see no merit in your bizarre, and completely unrealistic version of nationalism, and find it repugnant in every possible way.

But nice try.

Well I am Australian so politics isn't as big an issue as in the US, or that how I imagine it, we tend to be more apathetic and pragmatic, and the word 'politician' is a bad word over here. Anyways my dad is a Labor man, been in a Union all his working life, but he doesn't preach politics to me or anyone else. My mum is not really political at all, she votes Labor federally but sometimes Liberal in our state because Labor isn't very competent down here. My brother just turned voting age this year, but he doesn't care, and my sister is also under voting age. I myself vote Labor because I think the Liberals are mostly just rich people who only care about their portfolios, Labor has problems it's true but at least it has a social justice agenda, Liberal certainly doesn't have one - that is until a few months before the elections and they hand out money basically to get votes, as they are doing now.

My mom typically votes NDP. My dad doesn't like any of the parties.

Mother and father are rather die-hard republican conservatives, bible- thumping and all.

Brother is anarchist but only because its "cool". >_>


I'm most fascist, myself.

My Dad was a liberal. My mother is a die hard old school socialist. My grandparents on my mother's side were socialists, and my dad's parents were communists.

I'm a little more right wing. Though my household runs along anarchist lines. (Fortunately there are only three of us).

My parents are both socially conservative on most things. They have that whole computer games are bad, television makes you violent stuff. I usually tune them out when they start ranting.

Dad: Sort-of conservative (by Canadian standards anyway, I know he and my mom occasionally light up a joint in the basement).
Mom: Doesn't really give a damn. Doesn't vote, though I'd say her views are a bit on the left.
Brother: He couldn't put together a meaningful position on why he considers Meg White ugly or why Call of Duty "blows", never mind politics. He does produce quite a few amusing anecdotes, however.
Me: A random melting pot o' views, with a slight tendency to the right.

Oh and on a random note, my grandmother has a autographed picture of my great-grandfather with Fidel Castro.

My Dad: I think he's a right leaning moderate
My mom: a left leaning moderate
My brother: left leaning and generally apathetic
Me: Diehard commie

Of course political discussions take place whe we're in the car and have nothing better to talk about, and my dad lives in PA.

And as much as I dislike Ron Paul, he's my avorite rrepublican candidate. My favorite candidate being Dennis Kucinich

My dad is very conservative. He likes Shrub and O'Reilly, doesn't realize that Iraq was a mistake, you know, all that stuff. He has a few surprisingly sensible views (namely, he doesn't do the "unconditional support of Isreal" thing or the Creationism in schools thing), but, for the most part, we don't see eye to eye on politics. And... being home from school for the summer, well, we argue a lot about politics. Problem is, he believes everything he hears on Fox News [sic] Channel.

My family is generally conservative. My father is quite conservative, as is my grandfather on his side; I frequently discuss politics with them both. The rest of my close family on my father's side is rather conservative as well. My mother is not very political, but what I get out of her is general common sense conservatism. My grandparents on her side are dead (and thus not particularly political), though they were active and successful capitalists, and my other knowledge of them has led me to think they would generally be common sense conservatives like my mother. The rest of my family on her side would mostly fit into that category, except perhaps for my uncle (whom I believe to be liberal, though we don't discuss politics much as he lives way up in San Francisco).
I am very conservative (in the American sense), being socially conservative but generally federalist, libertarian leaning except for a couple social conservative staple issues (abortion, por ejemplo). Economically, my more liberal friends have accused me of being borderline anarchist, but I think that is exagguration.

Actually what I have discovered about the 'conservative' political views of older people is that they maybe casually racist, homophobic, sexist and xenophobic, but for the most part they aren't like serious about it, like say a Nazi would be. The racist thing is just jokes about Indian marketing callers etc and being annoyed about national economic assets being sold to foreigners (which is something that concerns me too). When it comes to fiscal conservative, I have discovered talking to people that most are quite left, as in protectionism - tariffs etc. So I think putting people in 'conservative' or 'liberal' boxes is a mistake, every person has different views etc.

My parents are both center-rightish and fairly skeptical about the whole political process. They vote Republican most often. My sister doesn't care at all.

I'm a non-party libertarian. I usually vote for Libertarian candidates when they're available, but sometimes vote for Republicans, Democrats, or more often just leave the ballot blank. I find national politics immensely frustrating, which sucks because I'm a poli sci major.

Me: Republican with strong libertarian views, except for abortion. (Pro-life)
Dad: Pretty much the same as me.
Mom: Republican, but not as libertarian.
Sister: Who knows, probably republican.

You should've appropriated it for yourself (if you're into that kind of thing) and then denied all knowledge. :p

I would've, but it was in the same drawer as my mum's dildos so...

Family is completly Republican and Conservative.

My mom married one of the hardcore Bush supporters, though I don't think she's as conservative (or loony) herself. She doesn't stop his monthly donations to the NRA though... we don't talk politics at her house.

My dad, well, it depends. He tends to swing wildly. When he has nothing, he's amazingly liberal, supporting all sorts of freedoms and tolerances (from early-term abortions to gay marriage). When he is happy with what he has his whole personality switches over to conservative. He stops talking about early-term abortions being ok and starts talking about how horrid late-term and partial-birth abortions are. He stops talking about how all should be able to love who they want and get the same rights and starts talking about Leviticus. He supports Bush because his tax return this year is larger than it was 8 years ago, even though he's living with a wife, a (step)teenager and an infant now and back then he was by himself. He and I talk politics sometimes, but less and less because I feel like he's not looking at the actual world and just living inside his own head.

I don't know what my brothers' political views are, when we talk it's not about politics. One of them is in Afghanistan and the other one is 8 time zones away from me, but he's about to have a baby with his wife.

Personally, every time I take those political analysis tests I turn out to be a socialist. I believe in fairly high taxes but in getting lots and lots back from the government because of it. I had a friend once who was a Libertarian and I was like 'who's gonna pay to fix the roads you drive on when you go to work?' and 'who's gonna finance the sewage system in the city you live in' and he just always changed the subject to how the lazy illegals were stealing his money through the welfare system.:headbang: He seriously had no other arguements.

In regards to your question... I'd just drop the subject with your dad. Putting up post-it notes and/or harrassing him into doing something he obviously doesn't want to do is not the way to gain his acceptance, approval or informed opinion of what you believe. Just drop it, and if he comments you can calmly tell him that if he'd like to be informed of your viewpoints you'll gladly share them with him, but you're not going to be browbeaten when he doesn't want to listen. Plenty of other stuff in the world to talk about :)

My mother is a registered Democrat, but she crosses party lines pretty often. My dad is an independent, and is a little more conservative than mom. My brother is significantly further to the left than any of us. I am a registered independent, and a centrist - I lean left on some issues, and right on others. If we do talk about politics - which doesn't happen that often - we don't get into fights.

Now, our friends are a little stronger. One family is a group of Democrats, who actually hosted Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) at their house.

Another family are hardcore Republicans (but not religious). The parents actually got their picture taken with President Bush when he visited Washington State in 2004. Their son is convinced I am conservative.

Virtually all my friends are pro-Israel - the Democrat family because they are Jewish (as is my family), the Republican family because they are right wing, and because the IDF kicks ass.

My mother is a social liberal and my stepdad is socialist. They both always vote for the social democrats.

Until the last election in the UK i was conservative, but now all three main parties have gone left wing so i'm kinda stuck without a party to vote for

i half like the idea of the right wing parties but as far as i can make out right wing means "racist with no real policies other then to chuck out minorities"

So like my parents i'm now a non-voter

My mother is a hardcore Democrat. She's become more politically involved as a result of the Bush presidency.
My father was a Democrat, but was somewhat socially conservative, though he was losing some of that as he got older.
My sister is apathetic, but somewhat centrist.
My brother is somewhat centrist.
I'm an anarchist.

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I live in a very liberal part of the country and most of my family is on the left side of the democratic party except they don't believe in abortion or gay rights...
I have a feeling if I lived in say, texas I would be a liberal, but since i live in New Jersey I am apparently a hardcore conservative.

Until the last election in the UK i was conservative, but now all three main parties have gone left wing so i'm kinda stuck without a party to vote for

i half like the idea of the right wing parties but as far as i can make out right wing means "racist with no real policies other then to chuck out minorities"

So like my parents i'm now a non-voter
Can you remind me which of these three main parties are left wing? Because, you know, nobody would suggest that Labour and the Tories are left wing, and the Lib Dems are debatable at best. There isn't a single party that doesn't support continuing the privatisation of public services, including health and education, ending means-tested welfare, renationalising the railways and transport and only one the abolition of student fees. As far as our parties go, they fit nicely into the centre-right mould.

Dad's pretty center-left on economic stuff. Doesn't like privatisation and thinks there should be more investment in public services, with a higher rate of income tax if necessary. But on social matters he's really ultra-conservative. He's anti-immigration, anti-islam and is completely against those gay civil partnerships and gay adoption. Pretty sexist as well. And he thinks that schools should be run military-style. Looks at all mainstream parties and politicians with contempt.

My mum's also left wing on economic issues, but a lot softer on the social ones (Though she tends not to talk about it much). She abhors violence and isn't really keen on Britain having nuclear weapons, something which my dad is completely in favour of.

Not really sure aboout where I stand too much. Still a teenager and forming my own views. Sitting on the fence.

Until the last election in the UK i was conservative, but now all three main parties have gone left wing so i'm kinda stuck without a party to vote for

i half like the idea of the right wing parties but as far as i can make out right wing means "racist with no real policies other then to chuck out minorities"

So like my parents i'm now a non-voter

no.... they're all right of centre.... which UK are you living in?

I BEFRIEND CHESTNUTS;12776653']Dad's pretty center-left on economic stuff. Doesn't like privatisation and thinks there should be more investment in public services, with a higher rate of income tax if necessary. But on social matters he's really ultra-conservative. He's anti-immigration, anti-islam and is completely against those gay civil partnerships and gay adoption. Pretty sexist as well. And he thinks that schools should be run military-style. Looks at all mainstream parties and politicians with contempt.

My mum's also left wing on economic issues, but a lot softer on the social ones (Though she tends not to talk about it much). She abhors violence and isn't really keen on Britain having nuclear weapons, something which my dad is completely in favour of.

Not really sure aboout where I stand too much. Still a teenager and forming my own views. Sitting on the fence.

That's actually pretty much exactly as my parents are.

My father is a conservative who votes for the Greens, my mother is a Social Democrat who votes Greens (they both think protection of the environment is most important, so only a slight contradiction here), I am a pirate with libertarian tendences. We stopped discussing politics unless my father is seriously drunk...

*SNIP THE SIDESTEPPING*
Yes that's all very nice and dandy, and nobody cares how about your foreign languages. "OoOoOo...I can speak Spanish so that must mean I'm for a union with Latin-America and a raging Multiculturalist!"....No. I'm not and yet I can still speak Spanish.

My point, which you were trying to sidestep, is that you care for your people's cultural and physical survival. At the most basic, that's what it is. That's no different for what I think. Unless you tell me you don't care for your people's cultural and physical survival, which would be a lie....

We're all a bunch of commies. More or less.

My mom, dad, and stepdad all either used to be MENSA members or qualified for it.
I have an IQ high enough to qualify.
My uncle is a lawyer.
My aunt is a college professor.
Their son went to Stanford.
Their daughter is a lawyer.

Not surprisingly, all of us are democrats.

Pretty much I'm rather the black sheep out of my immediate, as the moderately-right-libertarian non-Xian.

My parents are both modertate lefty Xians, and my little bro's more lefty less Xian.

What there is left of my extended family tends to be mostly GOP righty Xians, putting me further out of whack.

Yes that's all very nice and dandy, and nobody cares how about your foreign languages. "OoOoOo...I can speak Spanish so that must mean I'm for a union with Latin-America and a raging Multiculturalist!"....No. I'm not and yet I can still speak Spanish.


My point, which you were trying to sidestep, is that you care for your people's cultural and physical survival. At the most basic, that's what it is. That's no different for what I think. Unless you tell me you don't care for your people's cultural and physical survival, which would be a lie....

Oh save it, junior stormfront boy. I work to ensure the cultural survival of my people, but in no way do I support the kind of 'like with like' bullshit you're pushing. "Oh, only pureblood Germans with pureblood Germans, only pureblood Russians with Russians". We musn't mix because that would mean UTTER RUIN!

No. I'm fine with us not being pureblooded. Um, hello, I'm a half breed myself. My kids are a quarter Cree. Oh no, what ever will we do...

See you, you argue for this ridiculous 'racial/cultural' purity by espousing a belief that would make it impossible for intermixture. You actually want cultures to physically live separately.

The one sidestepping here is you. You are attempting to compare yourself to me, as though my belief in social justice and my anti-racism might rub off on your disgusting, ideas and make them look all shiny and innocuous. Bitch, please.

As for the language issue...well here's the difference. You speak Spanish and you're still a racist. I speak Spanish because my husband is from Chile. I speak French because many of my relatives intermarried with French. I speak Cree for obvious reasons. My language learning is BECAUSE of my multiculturalism. Yours? Well, you've stated it's not. So no. Once again, NOT the same.

I know you want to be me...but I'd have to be a narrow-minded racist who believed in the purity of my culture and swore never to mix with 'others' for that to happen. And it's not going to.

Brother- South Park conservative.


Hells yeah.:p

Oh save it, junior stormfront boy. I work to ensure the cultural survival of my people, but in no way do I support the kind of 'like with like' bullshit you're pushing. "Oh, only pureblood Germans with pureblood Germans, only pureblood Russians with Russians". We musn't mix because that would mean UTTER RUIN!
Actually, that's not true. What I do beleive however is that first and foremost, Germany should belong to Germans, Holland to Dutch, France to French...ect. That won't be possible for much longer with the mix of deathly low birth rates and insanly high immigration rates. It's not about purity as it about keeping the people who's country it is in the majority. A steady lower stream of immigrants into a country with a high birthrate (of the natives to that country) is hardly a bad thing. However..that's not what the West is experiecing right now. And, I'm hardly a stormfronter.....at all.:rolleyes:
As long as we both agree on this, "I work to ensure the cultural survival of my people"...then we both in fact, do agree...you just won't admit it.
No. I'm fine with us not being pureblooded. Um, hello, I'm a half breed myself. My kids are a quarter Cree. Oh no, what ever will we do...
Yes...and my family comes from Germany, Austria and some from Russia. So?

See you, you argue for this ridiculous 'racial/cultural' purity by espousing a belief that would make it impossible for intermixture. You actually want cultures to physically live separately.
Actually no. What I want is for these cultures to survive, which I don't beleive is possible under the combined weight of low birth rates and extreme immigration.
The one sidestepping here is you. You are attempting to compare yourself to me, as though my belief in social justice and my anti-racism might rub off on your disgusting, ideas and make them look all shiny and innocuous. Bitch, please.
Actually, your social justice and anti-racism have nothing to do with our topic. My comparison is that we are both working towards the surival and preservation of cultures. Just different ones. After all, like you said: "I work to ensure the cultural survival of my people".
As for the language issue...well here's the difference. You speak Spanish and you're still a racist. I speak Spanish because my husband is from Chile. I speak French because many of my relatives intermarried with French. I speak Cree for obvious reasons. My language learning is BECAUSE of my multiculturalism. Yours? Well, you've stated it's not. So no. Once again, NOT the same.
On the contrary. Again. I love different languages, cultures, nations...ect. I beleive it's great for a person to be multi-lingual, knowledgeble in various cultures and well travelled. It's truley a boon. However, I beleive it's the downfall in itself, if a nation is multi-lingual, multi-cultural ect. Simply look at Austria-Hungary and it's ethnic tensions caused by being to multi-everything..cultural, lingustic..ect.

I know you want to be me...but I'd have to be a narrow-minded racist who believed in the purity of my culture and swore never to mix with 'others' for that to happen. And it's not going to.
Not that any of that is true, but even if it was, you'd also have to be good looking.;)

Mother, conservative with a dose of social liberalism, and very pro-business. She finds Rand a bit frightening though.

Father, here, there and everywhere - generally conservative, but has some anti-capitalist streaks (e.g. protectionism). He's not friendly to taxes or government regulation - I am working on converting him. :p He's taken a liking to Rothbard and Hoppe so far. Both parents are Christian, to my dismay.

Brother, South Park conservative/ libertarian-lite.

Moi, anarcho-capitalist.

Not that any of that is true, but even if it was, you'd also have to be good looking.;)

Honey, I've seen your picture. No need to put on airs.

Well let's leave it at this then. You keep on white-washing your racist nationalism so you don't come across too extreme here, and I'll keep on not buying it. Any time you start spouting off at the mouth about how immigration is so evil and threatens your survival, I'll be there to point and laugh. Sound good?

Honey, I've seen your picture. No need to pretend.
Actually, I'm quite good looking. :)

Well let's leave it at this then. You keep on white-washing your racist nationalism so you don't come across too extreme here, and I'll keep on not buying it. Any time you start spouting off at the mouth about how immigration is so evil and threatens your survival, I'll be there to point and laugh. Sound good?
Actually, let's not. Let's leave it at this instead. You can't argue with the fact that we both have the same goals, which you've outlined exactly: "working to ensure the cultural suvival of a people".
As for your working for social justice, or whatever bullshit you want to throw at me next to make it seem like I'm the bad White cowboy and your the defenseless indian, well just because people in your fucked up society dont believe in property (and we saw how far that has got them), doesnt mean the rest of the world should be as fucked up. You say social justice, I say trying to take down those more fortunate than yourself out of sheer strife.

Anytime you come around to bitch, be a hypocrite, and work for the surivival of your culture while putting down those who work to ensure theirs....I'll be there to call you on it.

So yeah, I'd love to stay and debate more, but you don't seem to be able to.
Algo mas?

Actually, I'm quite good looking.

Even if you do say so yourself. I've seen your picture, you're nothing to shout about.

Even if you do say so yourself. I've seen your picture, you're nothing to shout about.
Au contraire, I think he is very good-looking.

Au contraire, I think he is very good-looking.

Last time I checked, you had me on ignore. Why would your opinion carry any weight with me?

Last time I checked, you had me on ignore. Why would your opinion carry any weight with me?
I meant I'd ignore any baiting on your behalf, and so I have. I'm not about to stop either.

My mom, dad, and stepdad all either used to be MENSA members or qualified for it.
I have an IQ high enough to qualify.
My uncle is a lawyer.
My aunt is a college professor.
Their son went to Stanford.
Their daughter is a lawyer.

Not surprisingly, all of us are democrats.

Did anybody else find this funny?

My parents are both Democrats. I probably will be too when I'm old enough, or I'll be an independent. Wow, that's less than a year away! 2008 will be the first election I'll be old enough to vote in, but I don't know if I'll be old enough in time for the primary.

My dad is a strong Democrat. My mom is a plain Democrat. I plan to register next year as an independent.

My father is a feminist and my mother is a militant islamofascist.

My mother is a member of the Labour Party. My brother and I aren't members of a party, but we're planning on joining the Lib Dems, possibly.

My parents cannot vote (they are permanant residents, not citizens).

One sister votes Greens in federal and labor in state, the other votes Green in both.

I would probably vote Greens federal and labor state as well.

Labor has problems it's true but at least it has a social justice agenda, Liberal certainly doesn't have one - that is until a few months before the elections and they hand out money basically to get votes, as they are doing now.

That and a strange reason of replacing their leading guy every time they lose an election...

Actually, I'm quite good looking. :)
Humble too. But I'm not exactly competing with you to appeal to the gay demographic.

Actually, let's not. Let's leave it at this instead. You can't argue with the fact that we both have the same goals, which you've outlined exactly: "working to ensure the cultural suvival of a people". Oh how you seem to wish to be like me. But I'm sorry, I'm not a racist. I'm not an exclusionist. I support multiculturalism, and in fact, I'd like to see immigration increased. When you can say those things about yourself, then you can start to claim we have the same goals.


As for your working for social justice, or whatever bullshit you want to throw at me next to make it seem like I'm the bad White cowboy and your the defenseless indian, well just because people in your fucked up society dont believe in property (and we saw how far that has got them),See, there you go, there's another difference between us. I don't feel the need to judge your society and declare mine to be superior. Still want to say we're the same? Oh, and careful...your mask of civility is slipping...much more of that and people will start to see just what a rabid supremacist you are.

doesnt mean the rest of the world should be as fucked up.
You say social justice, I say trying to take down those more fortunate than yourself out of sheer strife. Mmmhmm. Sure. Anything that will keep you in your position of privilege, right? Let's do a checklist again:

1) Feels socially superior.
2) Considers other cultures inferior.
3) Hates multiculteralism, and feels it will 'destroy' his society.
4) Racist

Tell me again how we are the same? I'd just LOVE to hear you try to make yourself look good again.

Anytime you come around to bitch, be a hypocrite, and work for the surivival of your culture while putting down those who work to ensure theirs....I'll be there to call you on it. My work doesn't mean advocating 1, 2, 3, or 4. So go ahead an call me on my lack of superiority, my lack of a belief in the 'inferirority' in other cultures, my support of multiculteralism, and my lack of racism. Call me on that ANY time.



So yeah, I'd love to stay and debate more, but you don't seem to be able to.
Algo mas?
What's there to debate? You seem fine in your little nationalistic world, all oppressed and threatened by the scary 'others'. I'm sure that's enough entertainment to keep you busy.

Did anybody else find this funny?

At first I thought it was South Lizurania or whatever, and yeah, I chuckled. But then I noticed it wasn't, and I ceased to laugh. Why?

My mum votes Tory, and, to my displeasure, my dad votes Labour.

Quick, we need to get all ethincities to breed with others.

*Strips* I am ready to have get jiggy for the greater good!

Quick, we need to get all ethincities to breed with others.

*Strips* I am ready to have get jiggy for the greater good!

Stop it! The very idea is dangerous! Why, then we wouldn't have racial purity anymore! OH NO!

Quick, we need to get all ethincities to breed with others.

*Strips* I am ready to have get jiggy for the greater good!

But what about the future generations who want to have sex with someone of every race? They won't have that choice

Won't someone please think of the children

Stop it! The very idea is dangerous! Why, then we wouldn't have racial purity anymore! OH NO!

No racial purity? Damn, time to axe the jiggyness *Imagines lots of sad non gender specific people*.

But what about the future generations who want to have sex with someone of every race? They won't have that choice

Won't someone please think of the children

Damn, I forgot to think about the children *censors everything*.

My family is filled with Southern Baptist Democrats. YES, Southern. Baptist. Democrats.

As for my IMMEDIATE family --

I'm a Godless Liberal, my dad is an agnostic Liberal, and my mother is... whatever. I don't even know what she is cause I don't talk with her much.

ETA: I don't belong to any political party, I'm Unaffiliated.

My dad is a selfish bastard and most closely resembles a libertarian, except he hates Muslims. The only issue my mom concerns herself with is animal rights because she likes waisting her time.

My parents are moderately conservative, my brother is a neocon, and I'm a tree-hugging hippie pinko liberal.:D

But what about the future generations who want to have sex with someone of every race? They won't have that choice

Won't someone please think of the children'




allready did that,but i guess i can refrain from mongroling the races so you can have some fun(sp)(sarcasm)

The politics (nor my family) isn't particularly polarized here. There's voters of at least 4 parties in my (extended) family (as far as I know). We discuss all things political quite frequently, but as the things are running pretty well - as usual - the debates are less than heated.

allready did that,but i guess i can refrain from mongroling the races so you can have some fun(sp)(sarcasm)

Sarcasm? Don't you know how bad that is for the proper upbringing of children? Won't you think of the children?

In Soviet Russia, Children think of YOU!

My father: definitely on the right. He thinks Bush and Co saved the world from 'teh ebil radical Muslim global super-army' and that every country on Earth should be groveling at their feet for doing so. Also he advocates genocide against Muslims.

My mother: I'm not sure, I'd guess a leftist though

My older sister: green party follower, and totally clueless about it.

My older brother: I'm not sure, but I would have to guess towards the right on social issues.

Myself: left-leaning centrist with no party affiliation, a realist.