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When did the kids become the parents and the parents, the kids?

NERVUN
15-06-2007, 14:03
Kellogg to raise nutrition of kids' food
By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN, Associated Press Writer Thu Jun 14, 7:51 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Kellogg Co., the world's largest cereal maker, has agreed to raise the nutritional value of cereals and snacks it markets to children.
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The Battle Creek, Mich., company avoided a lawsuit threatened by parents and nutrition advocacy groups worried about increasing child obesity. Kellogg intends to formally announce its decision Thursday.

The company said it won't promote foods in TV, radio, print or Web site ads that reach audiences at least half of whom are under age 12 unless a single serving of the product meets these standards:

_No more than 200 calories.

_No trans fat and no more than 2 grams of saturated fat.

_No more than 230 milligrams of sodium, except for Eggo frozen waffles.

_No more than 12 grams of sugar, not counting sugar from fruit, dairy and vegetables.

Kellogg said it would reformulate products to meet these criteria or stop marketing them to children under 12 by the end of 2008.

"By committing to these nutrition standards and marketing reforms, Kellogg has vaulted over the rest of the food industry," said Michael F. Jacobson, executive director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest. "This commitment means that parents will find it a little easier to steer their children toward healthy food choices — especially if other food manufacturers and broadcasters follow Kellogg's lead."

Jacobson's nutrition advocacy group, along with two Massachusetts parents and the Boston-based Campaign For A Commercial-Free Childhood, had served notice in January 2006 of intent to sue Kellogg and the Nickelodeon cable TV network under a Massachusetts law to stop them from marketing junk food to kids.

Center spokesman Jeff Cronin said Kellogg contacted the plaintiffs shortly thereafter and began negotiating the new standards, so the lawsuit was not filed and will not be filed.

"We are pleased to work collaboratively with industry and advocacy groups to unveil these standards," said David Mackay, Kellogg's CEO. "We feel the Kellogg Nutrient Criteria set a new standard for responsibility in the industry."

With 2006 sales of almost $11 billion, Kellogg is not only the No. 1 cereal-maker but also a leading producer of snack foods. Its brands include Kellogg's, Keebler, Pop-Tarts, Eggo, Cheez-It, Rice Krispies and Famous Amos.

Globally, 50 percent of the products Kellogg markets to children do not meet the criteria, said Mark Baynes, Kellogg's chief marketing officer. A third of the cereals it markets to children in the U.S. fall outside standards.

Pop-Tarts and Froot Loops don't meet the criteria, though most cereals fall inside the calorie guideline, Baynes said. Meeting the sugar and sodium standards could be the most challenging.

Kellogg also announced that it will continue to refrain from advertising to children under age 6, and will not in the future:

_Advertise to children any foods in schools and preschools that include kids under age 12.

_Sponsor placement of any of its products in any medium primarily directed at kids under age 12.

_Use branded toys connected to any foods that do not meet the nutrition standards.

_Use licensed characters on mass-media ads directed primarily to kids under 12 or on the front labels of food packages unless they meet the standards.

The advertising agreement does not apply to marketing characters Kellogg owns, like Tony the Tiger, but it does apply to characters the food company licenses, like the cartoon figure Shrek, said Susan Linn, co-founder of the Campaign For A Commercial-Free Childhood.

She said Kellogg was the first food company to agree to restrict advertising using licensed media characters like Shrek.

"These characters play an incredibly important role in children's lives. Kids see them every day; they have toys of them," Linn said. "The media characters are much more powerful (than company-owned characters like Tony the Tiger). The food companies want to keep using them because they sell a lot of food; kids really respond to them."

Earlier this month, a Federal Trade Commission study found that half the ads for junk food, sugary cereals and soft drinks are on children's programs, double the percentage 30 years ago. Children between ages 2 and 11 saw approximately 5,500 food ads on television in 2004, half of them on kids' shows with audiences of 50 percent children or greater.

American companies spend about $15 billion a year marketing and advertising to children under age 12, the Institute of Medicine said last year when it warned that one-third of American children are obese or at risk for becoming obese.

In response, Kellogg and McDonald's Corp. joined eight other major food and drink companies last November in an industry-sponsored pledge to promote more healthy foods and exercise in their child-oriented advertising. A year earlier, Kraft Foods Inc. had promised to curb ads to young children for snack foods, including Oreos and Kool-Aid.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070614/ap_on_he_me/kids_food

Ok, I can support Kellogg's changing the nutrition value of its cereals so they are less bowls of pure sugar and actually breakfast. I can even support them doing so in response to public concern over childhood obesity (A very real problem).

But last time I checked, it was parents, and not 5-year-olds, who made the actual decisions regarding what is bought on the household budget. So I am left in askance just how hard it is to "steer" a child to healthy food when parents are supposedly the ones buying the food for the kid in the first place.
Infinite Revolution
15-06-2007, 14:06
perhaps you underestimate the power of a persistently whining child over a strungout parent, especially when such things are specifically marketed at children to make them demand whatever it is.
Newer Burmecia
15-06-2007, 14:09
Since TV advertising between kids' shows came on.
Troglobites
15-06-2007, 14:14
Donkey Kong "It's the company's fault you want it so much."
Peepelonia
15-06-2007, 14:17
Umm since I grewup and had kids of my own?
Khadgar
15-06-2007, 14:20
It's pretty sad when a 5-year-old can force an adult to capitulate through whining though.

I hate to sound like an old foggy "Back in MY day" bit; but, seriously, just say no *heh* and let the brat starve for a day.

Seriously, if I'd tried that I'd of been bitch slapped out of the store. Perhaps the county.
NERVUN
15-06-2007, 14:21
perhaps you underestimate the power of a persistently whining child over a strungout parent, especially when such things are specifically marketed at children to make them demand whatever it is.
It's pretty sad when a 5-year-old can force an adult to capitulate through whining though.

I hate to sound like an old foggy "Back in MY day" bit; but, seriously, just say no *heh* and let the brat starve for a day.
Call to power
15-06-2007, 14:38
why can't they leave my coco pops alone? :(
Kryozerkia
15-06-2007, 14:50
If I ever whined the way some of these kids whine these days, my ass would have been spanked. My parents wouldn't have let me have a tantrum in public. It's sickening how parents give in now...
Infinite Revolution
15-06-2007, 14:55
It's pretty sad when a 5-year-old can force an adult to capitulate through whining though.

I hate to sound like an old foggy "Back in MY day" bit; but, seriously, just say no *heh* and let the brat starve for a day.

yeah my parents seemed to manage to deny me what i wanted but i generally lived in fear of my parents so wouldn't have demanded anything anyway. plus i think marketing to children has increased a lot since then. companies market to children because they know that kids really do have a degree of control over their parents, kids don't have spending power themselves afterall.
Kryozerkia
15-06-2007, 14:57
why can't they leave my coco pops alone? :(

Because that sugar is evil!!!!!!!! EEEVVVILLL!!!!!!!!
Call to power
15-06-2007, 14:59
Because that sugar is evil!!!!!!!! EEEVVVILLL!!!!!!!!

dammit we need adult cereal!
Troglobites
15-06-2007, 15:03
dammit we need adult cereal!

Porn O's
NERVUN
15-06-2007, 15:04
dammit we need adult cereal!
Shh! Don't say that too loud or you'll end up like Japan. Nothing but cornflakes!
Kryozerkia
15-06-2007, 15:06
dammit we need adult cereal!

You need valid ID to buy that cereal, boy! :)
Lt_Cody
15-06-2007, 15:07
Porn O's

I'd buy a box even if it wasn't sugar-coated :D
Utracia
15-06-2007, 15:07
Parenting is not "in", you have to get your kids to be your friend which means you can't tell them what to do or punish them. Insane, so what do you expect but kids to act like little terrors when you don't let them know who is in charge? Letting the kids control you allows disaster. I think Paris Hilton is a perfect example. Does anyone think she was ever told "no"?
Thedrom
15-06-2007, 15:14
perhaps you underestimate the power of a persistently whining child over a strungout parent, especially when such things are specifically marketed at children to make them demand whatever it is.

Perhaps you overestimate the amount of power a parent should give to their child. I don't care if the kid whines. It's what they do, whether you give them what they want or not. Far better to feed them healthy food and maybe teach them how to life well than to vainly try to cater to their every whim (and frequently drive yourself broke in the process). Kids are fast learners - if you put down your foot only once or twice, the vast majority of them will immediately learn that they won't get their way in that situation, and give up trying. So take some goddamn parenting lessons and be an adult with a spine.
Call to power
15-06-2007, 15:17
Shh! Don't say that too loud or you'll end up like Japan. Nothing but cornflakes!

as long as I have a jar of sugar I'm happy

satur-licious :)
Kryozerkia
15-06-2007, 15:24
Perhaps you overestimate the amount of power a parent should give to their child. I don't care if the kid whines. It's what they do, whether you give them what they want or not. Far better to feed them healthy food and maybe teach them how to life well than to vainly try to cater to their every whim (and frequently drive yourself broke in the process). Kids are fast learners - if you put down your foot only once or twice, the vast majority of them will immediately learn that they won't get their way in that situation, and give up trying. So take some goddamn parenting lessons and be an adult with a spine.

QFT.

Too bad some parents just don't have the will do do that.

While I might have hated my parents for saying "no" when I wanted something, I actually don't resent them now. I think it does prepare you for life in the long run because if you get your way as a kid, you'll always expect to get your way and it'll make you a spoiled brat and ill-prepared as an adult when many times you will never get what you want.
Kashmiriren
15-06-2007, 15:26
You need valid ID to buy that cereal, boy! :)

... I'm envisioning the picture of cereal being sold to underage buyers behind the local supermarket...

imagine if selling the hypothetic "adult cereal" to underage kids became a felony...

lol.
Nefundland
15-06-2007, 15:33
... I'm envisioning the picture of cereal being sold to underage buyers behind the local supermarket...

imagine if selling the hypothetic "adult cereal" to underage kids became a felony...

lol.


picture the warning signs;

WARNING
Attempting to buy cereal containing more then 200 calories per serving by a person under the age of 18 will result in a jail term of up to six months and/or a fine of up to $1000
Khadgar
15-06-2007, 15:34
QFT.

Too bad some parents just don't have the will do do that.

While I might have hated my parents for saying "no" when I wanted something, I actually don't resent them now. I think it does prepare you for life in the long run because if you get your way as a kid, you'll always expect to get your way and it'll make you a spoiled brat and ill-prepared as an adult when many times you will never get what you want.

Seriously, tell your kid no occasionally or you'll end up raising Paris 2.0.
Troglobites
15-06-2007, 15:34
... I'm envisioning the picture of cereal being sold to underage buyers behind the local supermarket...

imagine if selling the hypothetic "adult cereal" to underage kids became a felony...

lol.

I'd buy a box even if it wasn't sugar-coated

Stays Crunchy even in bourbon.
Yaltabaoth
15-06-2007, 16:35
ooh!
i remember this episode of Buffy...
Ashmoria
15-06-2007, 17:23
When did the kids become the parents and the parents, the kids?

in 1952 when kellog's introduded frosted flakes.

parents gave in to their kids back then so parents today think nothing of doing what their grandparents did by serving their children sugar cereal.
Dontgonearthere
15-06-2007, 18:47
-Psst, hey kid, wanna have a good time?

-Eh? Wossat mister?

-I got a hit o' Coco Puffs right here. Ten bucks.

-Damn! Only ten? Here ya go.

-Enjoy yourself kid. By the way, youre under arrest.

-Wha-?

-DROP THE FUCKING COCO PUFFS AND GET ON THE FUCKING GROUND!

-Bu-

-I SAID DROP IT! I WILL SHOOT YOU!

-I-...

-BANG!

-*dead*

-Kids these days...they'll do anything for a hit.
Katganistan
16-06-2007, 04:10
perhaps you underestimate the power of a persistently whining child over a strungout parent, especially when such things are specifically marketed at children to make them demand whatever it is.

My mom had a great way of dealing with that.

"No."
Johnny B Goode
17-06-2007, 01:08
dammit we need adult cereal!

Whatdaya think Cheerios are for? (Even though I've eaten cheerios for as long as I can remember)
Dakini
17-06-2007, 01:18
You know, I see no reason why I should have to suffer through crappy cereals because some stupid parents can't look after what their kids are eating and let their kids spend all day on their increasingly fat asses. I'm an adult and I like eating kid's cereal from time to time because it's quite yummy.

Stupid lazy parents should take their kids on a walk and force them to play little league or some shit. *mutters while hoarding froot loops*
Dakini
17-06-2007, 01:19
perhaps you underestimate the power of a persistently whining child over a strungout parent, especially when such things are specifically marketed at children to make them demand whatever it is.
And if you know a damn thing about psychology, you know that rewarding negative behaviour will lead to its persistance... you reward a kid when they're being good, not when they're throwing a tantrum. When they're throwing a tantrum, you lock them in their room until they cool off and then pay attention to them when they're being good again.
Murderous maniacs
17-06-2007, 01:43
And if you know a damn thing about psychology, you know that rewarding negative behaviour will lead to its persistance... you reward a kid when they're being good, not when they're throwing a tantrum. When they're throwing a tantrum, you lock them in their room until they cool off and then pay attention to them when they're being good again.
the problem is that parents nowadays don't seem to have the time or patience to go through that. neither my parents nor my grandparents would buy any sort of that stuff for me if i tried anything like that, just like any other impulse kids items. though on rare occasions, if i was being good, they might let me choose one thing that they knew was bad for me, to be nice.

PS: yay, i'm finally back on NS due to getting high speed internets
Troglobites
17-06-2007, 01:51
PS: yay, i'm finally back on NS due to getting high speed internets

I'm on dial up.:confused:
Smunkeeville
17-06-2007, 01:52
most of the parents today are children. They were never taught to grow up, their parent's weren't grown ups. I grew up in the 80's, I learned very quickly that if you want something you can have it, and you can have it NOW. There was no reason to wait, and darn it we didn't like to either. I see it a lot now with my financial planning clients, they have a house that's 50K more than they can really afford, and credit card debt of nearly 15K and they think this is fine, or worse they say "it's not fair, my parents had this kind of house" nevermind that their parents were probably in debt up to their eyeballs or had worked for 20+ years to afford that house.

People think they can graduate college and suddenly afford a house, and with the zero down, interest only loans it just makes it easier for them to be dumb about stuff. Flash forward to their kids who are innocent and ask "can I have the double sugar creamy puff cereal?!" and the parents feel bad they can't afford a college fund or insurance, or even a better school and they say "well, they are kids, they need a better life than I have" and give in. The parents can't handle being slightly uncomfortable, why would they expect it from the kids?

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Murderous maniacs
17-06-2007, 01:56
I'm on dial up.:confused:
yeah, i was on pay-per-hour dialup at home, which is annoying to share between computers and at uni, where we have awesome internets, we only get 100mb of internet quota a semester