NationStates Jolt Archive


Linux build?

The Potato Factory
15-06-2007, 12:34
We're doing Linux at school, and I figure I should get a copy for home. Right now I'm downloading Fedora, that's what the school uses. What other versions do you guys recommend?
Skiptard
15-06-2007, 12:40
Ubuntu, very user friendly.

I didn't like fedora much personally.
Peepelonia
15-06-2007, 12:42
Ubuntu, very user friendly.

I didn't like fedora much personally.

Annnndn I got debian.
The Potato Factory
15-06-2007, 12:48
Ubuntu, very user friendly.

I didn't like fedora much personally.

No Ubuntu, that shit destroyed my HDD.
Peepelonia
15-06-2007, 12:53
No Ubuntu, that shit destroyed my HDD.

hehe thats linux! But really it's only a FAT problem.
Rejistania
15-06-2007, 12:56
Linux from scratch! Or Gentoo, that is pretty much the same! Or maybe Slackware, but without slapt since that is cheating :)

seriously:stay clear of those 3, use a desktop environment you feel comfortable with and if the distro asks you to edit the master boot record with a hexedior, RUN! :p
The Potato Factory
15-06-2007, 12:59
hehe thats linux! But really it's only a FAT problem.

It was NTSC...
Fair Progress
15-06-2007, 13:06
Ubuntu is a nice way to start, as it's probably the most user friendly desktop-oriented Linux distro
Peepelonia
15-06-2007, 13:06
It was NTSC...

Yeah but you still have file alocation table huh.
Jeruselem
15-06-2007, 13:48
I've played with an old version of RedHat (now Fedora I think) and one install the one Novell used to push (forgot the name).

This might help
http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html
South Lorenya
15-06-2007, 13:53
Can it be lolnix time now plz?

...sorry...
UpwardThrust
15-06-2007, 13:56
We're doing Linux at school, and I figure I should get a copy for home. Right now I'm downloading Fedora, that's what the school uses. What other versions do you guys recommend?

Debian
UpwardThrust
15-06-2007, 13:57
No Ubuntu, that shit destroyed my HDD.

No it did not
Jeruselem
15-06-2007, 13:57
Maybe Xandros? It's Debian-based.

Oh yes, it's NTFS not NTSC.
Ruby City
15-06-2007, 13:58
It was NTSC...
NTSC = National Television Standards Committee?

If you mean NTFS, never ever write to NTFS from Linux. Microsoft keeps it secret how NTFS works so Linux has to guess, no harm in that if it is only reading from the file system but if it writes to the file system and guesses wrong it causes a mess. Use a FAT partition as a shared mittle ground between the OSes.

I second the recommendation of Ubuntu, it's what I'm using. Mepis is also good, it's the most user friendly out of the ones I've tried.
UpwardThrust
15-06-2007, 13:58
I've played with an old version of RedHat (now Fedora I think) and one install the one Novell used to push (forgot the name).

This might help
http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html

Redhat are separate projects same company ... RedHat is their purchasable stable release

Fedora is their free release, they do a lot of "testing" in fedora first before feature incorporation into redhat
Newer Burmecia
15-06-2007, 14:00
We're doing Linux at school, and I figure I should get a copy for home. Right now I'm downloading Fedora, that's what the school uses. What other versions do you guys recommend?
Until last year we used Windows NT.:rolleyes:
Jeruselem
15-06-2007, 14:03
Redhat are separate projects same company ... RedHat is their purchasable stable release

Fedora is their free release, they do a lot of "testing" in fedora first before feature incorporation into redhat

So Fedora is the "let's the users trash their own PCs before we trash our servers" version. :)
No_State_At_All
15-06-2007, 14:04
Use a FAT partition as a shared mittle ground between the OSes.
or just burn windows. if you dont play games on a machine windows has no point.
I admit the FAT partition is a good idea.
And i run Ubuntu "feisty fawn" because its very easy, but when you install, make the partitions you need yourself, DONT let the installer do it. made a mess of my MFT. It does come with GNOME partition editor on the live CD, which does the job.
UpwardThrust
15-06-2007, 14:07
So Fedora is the "let's the users trash their own PCs before we trash our servers" version. :)

To an extent, though they still have the beta cycle in fedora too ... and they deploy more desktop orientated stuff in fedora as well

Its not a bad project they just tend to throw more in

Hell from how I have heard it described it is less of a software bug testing more of a feature set test to see what people like
Ruby City
15-06-2007, 14:17
So Fedora is the "let's the users trash their own PCs before we trash our servers" version. :)
Thats the way it should be. By the time it is tested throughly enough to assume all major bugs are solved and trust it with your mission critical servers it's too old and outdated for the desktop. Then it's time for desktop users to upgrade to a new less tested version with new bugs, I mean features.
Jeruselem
15-06-2007, 14:21
Thats the way it should be. By the time it is tested throughly enough to assume all major bugs are solved and trust it with your mission critical servers it's too old and outdated for the desktop. Then it's time for desktop users to upgrade to a new less tested version with new bugs, I mean features.

I am a software developer ... there's no bugs in software, it's just a feature. :p
The Potato Factory
15-06-2007, 14:25
No it did not

I think I know what it did. I popped the disc in at startup, selected install, it gave me a bunch of errors, drive got fucked.
The Potato Factory
15-06-2007, 14:27
Until last year we used Windows NT.:rolleyes:

What kind of school? High school?
UpwardThrust
15-06-2007, 14:31
I think I know what it did. I popped the disc in at startup, selected install, it gave me a bunch of errors, drive got fucked.

How exactly would a piece of software cause a hardware failure like that?
Skiptard
15-06-2007, 14:41
I think I know what it did. I popped the disc in at startup, selected install, it gave me a bunch of errors, drive got fucked.

Bad burn or user error.

Any OS can kill your HDD if it becomes faulty on install, or the files are corrupt.

Even selecting the wrong type of formatting can kill it.
Descartesland
15-06-2007, 14:41
Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"

Its user friendly, easy to install, and with their new Windows Installer, can even be installed from inside windows. It just doesnt get any easier then that for the first time *Nix user
UpwardThrust
15-06-2007, 14:42
Bad burn or user error.

Any OS can kill your HDD if it becomes faulty on install, or the files are corrupt.

Even selecting the wrong type of formatting can kill it.

I have never seen a drive messed up by a software error that could not be solved with a software solution

Sure it will mess up your build but if i remember the complaint right from other threads he claimed it caused a physical failure in the drive that rendered it useless

I have never seen nor heard of a single clear case of this in my years as a tech
Posi
15-06-2007, 22:49
We're doing Linux at school, and I figure I should get a copy for home. Right now I'm downloading Fedora, that's what the school uses. What other versions do you guys recommend?
Fedora has the most horride package management system I have used with the possible exception of SUSE. Try Debian or Ubuntu.
Posi
15-06-2007, 22:56
I've played with an old version of RedHat (now Fedora I think) and one install the one Novell used to push (forgot the name).

This might help
http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html
Better -> www.distrowatch.com
Rejistania
15-06-2007, 23:28
Fedora has the most horride package management system I have used with the possible exception of SUSE. Try Debian or Ubuntu.
Come on, we know nothing can match the horridness of YaST and YOU of SuSE. Except the package manager of slackware maybe...
UpwardThrust
16-06-2007, 00:51
Come on, we know nothing can match the horridness of YaST and YOU of SuSE. Except the package manager of slackware maybe...

Slackware has package manager? lol I always just downloaded the binaries .... but that was YEARS ago lol I did not know what the hell I was doing
Posi
16-06-2007, 02:58
Come on, we know nothing can match the horridness of YaST and YOU of SuSE. Except the package manager of slackware maybe...
In my experience, YAST is only bad when trying to configure your repositories (ie it takes a half hour to do so). Yum takes forever to download and install packages when YAST does it pretty quickly, once you decipher the cryptic names.