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MP secrecy bill without sponsor

Forsakia
15-06-2007, 00:38
A controversial bill to exempt MPs from the Freedom of Information Act seems almost certain to fail as no-one has agreed to sponsor it in the Lords.
A sponsor was needed by the end of business on Wednesday, but no-one stepped forward.

Although technically it could still be revived, it would be difficult to find time for a second reading.

Critics in the Commons had fought hard to get Tory MP David Maclean's private member's bill kicked out.

Mr Maclean had argued an exemption for MPs was necessary to protect the confidentiality of correspondence between MPs and constituents.

"It seems very likely that this squalid little bill will no longer become law"

Lord McNally
Liberal Democrat

The two-clause bill would have effectively removed both the Commons and House of Lords from the list of public authorities obliged to release information under the 2000 act, which came into force in 2005.

It also protected all MPs' correspondence from release and stopped authorities being able to confirm or deny whether they have received a letter from an MP.

Liberal Democrat leader in the Lords, Tom McNally, who opposed the bill, said: "It seems very likely that this squalid little bill will no longer become law. We are happy that this bill will not become law.

"It speaks volumes that no member of the House of Lords was prepared to support this legislation.

"It could be revived any time during this session but there is simply no parliamentary time.

"The government would have to extend its already extraordinary generosity to this bill to the point where it would become a government bill," he said.

However, the prime minister's official spokesman later said it was entirely a matter for parliament, in effect ruling out government sponsorship.

Labour MP David Winnick said he was "absolutely delighted" the bill did not have a sponsor.

"It is unfortunate that it has been left to the second chamber to hopefully bury this nasty bill. I only hope that no further attempt will be made to revive the measure," he said.


Nice to keep some level of accountability going. I did actually write to a couple of Lords about this (based on the notion that they'd be so surprised someone wrote to them they might do something, and also out of interest; one even wrote back to me). So I'm now going to celebrate in the illusion that I made a diference:)
Longhaul
15-06-2007, 00:49
Nice to keep some level of accountability going. I did actually write to a couple of Lords about this (based on the notion that they'd be so surprised someone wrote to them they might do something, and also out of interest; one even wrote back to me). So I'm now going to celebrate in the illusion that I made a diference:)

Who knows? Maybe you did make the difference. Revel in the notion anyway! :D

I'm rather glad this Bill seems to be on the slide. It was horrifically poor judgement to propose it in the first place in my opinion, and - to judge from the shitstorm of protests that the idea generated - yet another indication of just how far out of step with the electorate our Parliament seems to be.
:(
Neo Undelia
15-06-2007, 00:57
If I understand this right (I'm no expert on British politics and please, please be gentle with me), the unelected branch of the government stopped a horrendous idea proposed by members of the elected branch?
Forsakia
15-06-2007, 00:58
If I understand this right (I'm no expert on British politics and please, please be gentle with me), the unelected branch of the government stopped a horrendous idea proposed by members of the elected branch?

Yep, the system shouldn't work, yet occasionally it does.:)
Neo Undelia
15-06-2007, 01:03
Yep, the system shouldn't work, yet occasionally it does.:)

While I'm not entirely opposed to laws being under the review of non-elected panels of experts. The fact that a group of inbred nobility manged to do something not just right but excellently, well, frankly astonishes me.

In any case, jolly good show gov'ner.
Infinite Revolution
15-06-2007, 01:03
anyone that runs for parliament must automatically be disqualified from making decions on stuff that is... shit i lost my train of thought... later..
Gataway_Driver
15-06-2007, 01:45
While I'm not entirely opposed to laws being under the review of non-elected panels of experts. The fact that a group of inbred nobility manged to do something not just right but excellently, well, frankly astonishes me.

In any case, jolly good show gov'ner.


the hereditary peers have all but gone now. Most are leading members in their respective field, or have bought their way in ;)
Compulsive Depression
15-06-2007, 01:52
If I understand this right (I'm no expert on British politics and please, please be gentle with me), the unelected branch of the government stopped a horrendous idea proposed by members of the elected branch?

Believe it or not, the Lords are the good bit of our government ;)
Neo Undelia
15-06-2007, 02:15
the hereditary peers have all but gone now. Most are leading members in their respective field, or have bought their way in ;)
Then I love them.