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R.I.P. Ruth Graham

Varejao
14-06-2007, 23:04
The wife of one of the greatest American evangelists has just passed away at 5:05PM in her Montreat, North Carolina home.
http://www.charlotte.com/109/story/160096.html

Whether you are a Christian or not, there is no denying Ruth Graham was a great woman who countless times reached out to help those in need.
Neo Undelia
14-06-2007, 23:22
She looked almost litch-like.

And now I have to play through Neverwinter Nights again. Ooh, I wonder if it will work on my laptop.
Infinite Revolution
14-06-2007, 23:24
gosh, i didn't know there was a 'great' one of those.
Dundee-Fienn
14-06-2007, 23:24
What exactly did she do?
Ifreann
14-06-2007, 23:25
What exactly did she do?

Die.




Duh.




:p
Infinite Revolution
14-06-2007, 23:26
She looked almost litch-like.

And now I have to play through Neverwinter Nights again. Ooh, I wonder if it will work on my laptop.

holy crap, yeh! and that pics almost a decade old..
Neo Undelia
14-06-2007, 23:26
What exactly did she do?

Extended her life through arcane as opposed to divine means. Flesh doesn't hold up as well that way.
Dundee-Fienn
14-06-2007, 23:26
Die.




Duh.




:p

Smart ass :p
Dundee-Fienn
14-06-2007, 23:27
Extended her life through arcane as opposed to divine means. Flesh doesn't hold up as well that way.

Thats it.

Note to self : Be overly specific next time

:p
Varejao
14-06-2007, 23:29
gosh, i didn't know there was a 'great' one of those.
Oh COME ON! What is you people's problem! You have no respect, less than I do at any rate, for someone with different beleifs. At least I try to understand them.
Dundee-Fienn
14-06-2007, 23:30
Oh COME ON! What is you people's problem! You have no respect, less than I do at any rate, for someone with different beleifs. At least I try to understand them.

You misunderstood the joke i think.
Varejao
14-06-2007, 23:32
You misunderstood the joke i think.
Oh. Sorry IR.
The Silver Sky
14-06-2007, 23:35
gosh, i didn't know there was a 'great' one of those.

A great what? Woman?
Neo Art
14-06-2007, 23:38
The wife of one of the greatest American evangelists

That's not saying much.
Infinite Revolution
14-06-2007, 23:39
A great what? Woman?

errr... no.
Franberry
14-06-2007, 23:39
A great what? Woman?
Can't be a woman, someone said "people" in this thread.
The Silver Sky
14-06-2007, 23:42
Can't be a woman, someone said "people" in this thread.

I must have misunderstood then.

Sexist Squad Strikes Again!
Imperial isa
14-06-2007, 23:48
Die.




Duh.




:p

i'll have to go with that as i have no idea who the huck she is
New Manvir
15-06-2007, 00:25
this is important...why?
Gartref
15-06-2007, 03:31
What exactly did she do?

She invented the Graham cracker. Thank her next time you eat a smore.
Brazilam
15-06-2007, 03:40
Apparently, this is the wrong place to dedicate the life of Ruth Graham. I don't intend to direct any harsh words towards you Varejao, but this is not a good place to honor Ruth Graham. This site is run by communists who have no respect for people who follow a certain faith. They could meet a religious leader who reached out to them and they would still tap-dance on his/her grave after he or she died. Overall, I don't think this is the best place to dedicate Ruth Graham's death.

Just to let you know though, I for one happen to have some respect for her. I hardly even know her or her husband Billy, but my condolences are with them.
Project Giza
15-06-2007, 03:46
Holy shit, it didn't take long for someone to mention communists.
Neo Undelia
15-06-2007, 03:46
This site is run by communists...

I'll have you know that I am not a communist and that I've never run anything in my life.
Neo Undelia
15-06-2007, 03:47
Holy shit, it didn't take long for someone to mention communists.

http://static.flickr.com/40/104968016_415609bc0b.jpg
Project Giza
15-06-2007, 03:47
http://static.flickr.com/40/104968016_415609bc0b.jpg

Oh wow.
Gartref
15-06-2007, 03:49
.... This site is run by communists who have no respect for people who follow a certain faith....


I've heard that about a Brazilam times.
Wilgrove
15-06-2007, 03:53
May you rest in peace Ruth.

http://k53.pbase.com/u38/pstewart/upload/24963070.red_rose.jpg
Grave_n_idle
15-06-2007, 03:54
Apparently, this is the wrong place to dedicate the life of Ruth Graham. I don't intend to direct any harsh words towards you Varejao, but this is not a good place to honor Ruth Graham. This site is run by communists who have no respect for people who follow a certain faith. They could meet a religious leader who reached out to them and they would still tap-dance on his/her grave after he or she died. Overall, I don't think this is the best place to dedicate Ruth Graham's death.

Just to let you know though, I for one happen to have some respect for her. I hardly even know her or her husband Billy, but my condolences are with them.

I'm not sure what communism has to do with it.

However, I am saddened by her passing. She was a hell of a poetess.

And I'm a godless heathen. And probably a commie too.
Andaluciae
15-06-2007, 04:07
My condolences to Reverend Graham, a man who had the common decency to keep his nose out of politics.
New Genoa
15-06-2007, 04:47
I guess not being Christian equates to being communist. Whatever.
Troglobites
15-06-2007, 04:53
May you rest in peace Ruth.

http://k53.pbase.com/u38/pstewart/upload/24963070.red_rose.jpg

Why am I forbidden to look a the picture?

I don't care what you belive in, as long as you aren't a zelard, I have no problem.

Rest in peace "The Crypt Keeper".:(
Dobbsworld
15-06-2007, 05:20
My condolences to Reverend Graham, a man who had the common decency to keep his nose out of politics.

Where'd you get an idea like that? He's always just preferred to keep things on the down-low (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham#Controversy)... but he's been a White House advisor for... like, forever.
Andaluciae
15-06-2007, 05:29
Where'd you get an idea like that? He's always just preferred to keep things on the down-low (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham#Controversy)... but he's been a White House advisor for... like, forever.

Albeit, he has played centrally spiritual role in his "advising", rather than a political one. That Presidents choose him as a religious confidante is no surprise...his high profile combined with his comparatively apolitical nature (think the late Jer-Jer) makes having him play such a role relatively desirable.
Intangelon
15-06-2007, 05:34
Apparently, this is the wrong place to dedicate the life of Ruth Graham. I don't intend to direct any harsh words towards you Varejao, but this is not a good place to honor Ruth Graham. This site is run by communists who have no respect for people who follow a certain faith. They could meet a religious leader who reached out to them and they would still tap-dance on his/her grave after he or she died. Overall, I don't think this is the best place to dedicate Ruth Graham's death.

Just to let you know though, I for one happen to have some respect for her. I hardly even know her or her husband Billy, but my condolences are with them.

Just for you. (http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/not_this_shit_again.jpg)

What is it with God-fearing people and their liberal use of "Communist" to label things they don't like?

Ms. Graham was not a notable in and of herself. She was a very good ambassador for her faith and an extremely devoted wife. She was born in China to missionaries and wanted to do that work in China as well -- that's not any kind of easy path, and I tip my hat to her for all of her work.

That doesn't mean she's deserving of canonization, and you should know by now that in THIS forum, there is no single person who will ever receive unanimous praise in life or death. There will always be someone who claims that even Sister Theresa was rubbish. That's human nature. The only thing worse is when someone dons the martyr suit and chastizes the room for being human.

In short, relax, honor Ms Graham in your own way and leave those who would disrespect her to wallow in their own self-evident stupidity by refusing to join them in it.
Naturality
15-06-2007, 05:35
Where'd you get an idea like that? He's always just preferred to keep things on the down-low (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham#Controversy)... but he's been a White House advisor for... like, forever.

He cut that shit out many years ago. And his reason for getting the heck out of politics was right on. He didn't belong there. Good luck pulling up a lot of shit on Billy. (but his apology, I just saw from your wiki link [if it's factual.. I don't doubt really.. generally] is a little sickening. I guess he had to do what he had to do tho..and of course he is right in the sense that it is not good to arbor resentment. It's bad blood, meaning bad on the spirit).

I understand family and close ties go through the grieving process. Good thing. But if they (family, friends etc.. ) believe she is going to a better place.. they shouldn't 'mourn', but be joyful. And I hope they are.

I just saw a little smidget about her death on my local tv news and they had already began the .. they are dead..omg!.. thing. They just don't get it.
Boonytopia
15-06-2007, 09:55
I've never heard of her & I couldn't care less about evangelists and/or their wives.
Andaras Prime
15-06-2007, 10:13
Imagine the surprise upon discovery that heaven didn't exist!
United Beleriand
15-06-2007, 10:18
Imagine the surprise upon discovery that heaven didn't exist!she wouldn't know. even if heaven exited, evangelists surely don't get there.
Krahe
15-06-2007, 13:12
I met the Grahams on a number of occasions while visiting relatives that live in the same small town they did. While I don't hold evangelicals in very high regard, they were some of the kindest people I have ever come across, and for this alone they earned my respect.

Rest in peace, Mrs. Graham...
Grave_n_idle
15-06-2007, 22:45
Ms. Graham was not a notable in and of herself.

Not strictly true. I already mentioned it in my comment in this thread, but she was actually something of a gifted poet. No special facility with the language, perhaps... more Larkin than Shakespeare... but she had a pretty enviable ability to isolate simple truths, and describe the intricacy of the human condition in just a few lines.

She's actually one of my favourite poets.
Chumblywumbly
15-06-2007, 22:46
This site is run by communists who have no respect for people who follow a certain faith.
As Popeye would say, ug-ug-ug-ug-ug-ug.
Zarakon
15-06-2007, 23:09
This site is run by communists who have no respect for people who follow a certain faith.

Bullshit. Very few people on this site are communists, as far as I know NONE of the mods are communists and even less have "no respect for people who follow a certain faith." There are plenty of Christians on here, and the only people we have no respect for are those whose "religion" seems to entail spitting venom and lies.
New Mitanni
15-06-2007, 23:16
May she rest in peace and rise in glory. Condolences to Rev. Graham and his family.
RLI Rides Again
15-06-2007, 23:20
I've never heard of her before but she sounds a decent person. My thoughts are with her family.
RLI Rides Again
15-06-2007, 23:20
Imagine the surprise upon discovery that heaven didn't exist!

Was that really necessary?
Zarakon
15-06-2007, 23:28
Imagine the surprise upon discovery that heaven didn't exist!

Imagine her surprise upon seeing it for just a moment and then being sent into the fires of hell.
RLI Rides Again
15-06-2007, 23:35
You know, I could understand this kind of reaction against a slimeball like Falwell (I probably joined in) but this woman doesn't seem to have done anything particuarly objectionable. Was there something about her which I haven't heard about?
CthulhuFhtagn
15-06-2007, 23:44
It's kind of a backlash against the OP praising someone for apparently being the wife of an evangelist. Since most people don't know who the hell she was, they're naturally giving praise based on what they know of her, which is that's she was the wife of an evangelist. It's hard to praise someone for not doing anything you're aware of.
Underdownia
15-06-2007, 23:51
You know, I could understand this kind of reaction against a slimeball like Falwell (I probably joined in) but this woman doesn't seem to have done anything particuarly objectionable. Was there something about her which I haven't heard about?

I don't believe so. The negative and hostile tone of the past few pages is largely a response to some asshat using a couple of anti-christian posts to declare all NSGers Godless Communist Scum. Naturally, this provoked some hostile comments in response, leading the topic away from the person it was originally about. Which is a shame. Though I would question whether death of someone not really in the public eye merits a thread in the first place.
New Limacon
16-06-2007, 00:16
Though I would question whether death of someone not really in the public eye merits a thread in the first place.
Of course, the life of people not in the public eye merits not only a thread, but an entire forum!

(Cf. this forum)
Dundee-Fienn
16-06-2007, 00:21
It's kind of a backlash against the OP praising someone for apparently being the wife of an evangelist. Since most people don't know who the hell she was, they're naturally giving praise based on what they know of her, which is that's she was the wife of an evangelist. It's hard to praise someone for not doing anything you're aware of.

Exactly
Underdownia
16-06-2007, 00:23
Of course, the life of people not in the public eye merits not only a thread, but an entire forum!

(Cf. this forum)

Ha! I like what you did there :) The reason a lot of the stuff on here is about posters' own lives is because we are all secretly incredibly important people, and hence such topics are really rather interesting (though keep this quiet in case some lower-quality human units happen to stumble across the forum accidentally).