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Stein and Oliver threatened by Cornish extremists

TV chefs Rick Stein and Jamie Oliver have been threatened by a little-known Cornish extremist group trying to force them out of the county.

The so-called Cornish National Liberation Army (CNLA) sent an email to the Plymouth newspaper Western Morning News claiming that Stein's "vehicle and those of his clients are bona fide targets for our activists".

Mr Stein was described as an "English newcomer" in the email and it blamed Jamie Oliver for "the inflation of house and other living costs at Cornish expense".

Mr Oliver has opened one of his Fifteen brand of restaurants in the county which helps to train disadvantaged youngsters in the region and makes no profit for the TV chef.

Mr Stein has a number of business interests in Cornwall and owns a restaurant, a hotel and a fish and chip shop in the port town of Padstow.

The email said it was "common knowledge" that Mr Stein and his businesses were "held in contempt" by locals living in Padstow.

Devon and Cornwall police said threats would be thoroughly investigated and that it was taken seriously.

A spokesperson said the force took "very seriously any threats to commit criminal offences against individual, business, public service or the Crown".

It is believed the group is linked to previous movements calling for Cornish independence from England.

Graffiti from a previous group, the Cornish Liberation Army, can still be seen on bridges over roads in the county with references to An Gof - another separatist group.


Source
(http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/entertainment/tv/stein-and-oliver-threatened-by-cornish-extremists-$1099287.htm)

So what do you make of this? Should we declare war on Cornwall?:p

My OP was better :p (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529826)

And sadly neglected :(

Yes, I'm sure Cornish extremism is a major issue in the UK today.

My OP was better :p (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529826)

And sadly neglected :(

My title was better!

Yes, I'm sure Cornish extremism is a major issue in the UK today.

Cornish Liberation Armywere big 20 years ago but now who cares. They want to drive away businesses and a charity restaurant that in turn brings in tourism and revenue to the county to simply keep the place Cornish. I always knew the Cornish were a bit strange.

They aren't as good as MAB and the rest of the Welsh Nationalist guerillas...

I would have thought burning down the houses purchased as holiday homes primarily responsible for the price rises the thing to do, rather than slag off some Chefs and threaten resturuants........

Everyone wants bloody independence these days. I think I might declare that my house is leaving the UK.

Can the Isle of Wight be independent please? We aren't joined on at all, so we are already part way there...then we can stop all the people from the mainland moving here when they get old and start to wet themselves in public.

/me establishes the Northamptonshire Liberation Front, to kick out all the ruddy Englanders. And the Scots and Irish that've settled in Corby and its surrounds. And all those Eastern Europeans who do all the work in the factories. And the Pakistanis who run the local shop. Yeah, go back to where you came from, all of you! Stop ruining my county!



If you don't get the sarcasm in this post you're a muppet.

Well, Cornwall has a distinct Celtic cultural heritage like Scotland, Wales and Ireland, and has a home rule movement (but not an independence movement) with a degree of popular support. It's not surprising, considering there have been armed terrorist groups operating all over the UK for the same ends.

what is it with people looking to the past and placing arbitary boundaries between themselves and others?? :confused:

i don't think this is something i'll ever understand... this concept of "britishness" or, indeed, "cornishness" :rolleyes:

I don't understand why, when I have lived here on the Island since I was a baby, that I am told that I am 'not a local'? Apparently you have to be third generation before that one licks in....is that a peculiarity of the isle of Wight? We also have our own language over here, for instance a 'mallyshag' is the local word for caterpillar

what is it with people looking to the past and placing arbitary boundaries between themselves and others?? :confused:

i don't think this is something i'll ever understand... this concept of "britishness" or, indeed, "cornishness" :rolleyes:

Now, "cornyness" on the other hand ... :D

Now, "cornyness" on the other hand ... :D
Now, where did Corny go?

Well, Cornwall has a distinct Celtic cultural heritage like Scotland, Wales and Ireland, and has a home rule movement (but not an independence movement) with a degree of popular support. It's not surprising, considering there have been armed terrorist groups operating all over the UK for the same ends.

Heh it always makes me laugh when people talk about Celtic ancestry etc..

There really was no such people as the Celts, the dispearsed and numerous tribes that often get lumped under the Celtic heading, certianly never called themself Celts, there was never a shared culture much less a shared language. It's a romantic notion, based upon a period of history and makes as much sense as delcareing Edwardian ancerstry.

Undoubtetly though much of Cornwall's native population can trace themselve sback to indiginous tribes, but Celtic? Hehe naaaa.

Heh it always makes me laugh when people talk about Celtic ancestry etc..

There really was no such people as the Celts, the dispearsed and numerous tribes that often get lumped under the Celtic heading, certianly never called themself Celts, there was never a shared culture much less a shared language. It's a romantic notion, based upon a period of history and makes as much sense as delcareing Edwardian ancerstry.

Undoubtetly though much of Cornwall's native population can trace themselve sback to indiginous tribes, but Celtic? Hehe naaaa.
Have you got a source to back that up? In any case, it's irrelevant if that's what people consider their background to be because, in reality, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Cornwall, Mann and Brittany are considered to be the Celtic nations whether they are closely connected or not.

What the hell?

Cornish.....terrorists?


lol wut?

Pasties don't come from Cornwall, they originated in Devon... *grumble, mumble, grr*

Anyhew, the Cornish don't know a good thing when it happens. Some chefs open restaurants that increase trade in the County and they complain because it puts house prices up. It's obviously got nothing to do with people buying holiday homes or that businesses won't open factories etc. because transport links are useless. Of course not, it's them damn chefs that employ Cornish workers and buy source local food to sell in their restaurants (and fish & chip takeaways in respect Rick Stein).

Have you got a source to back that up? In any case, it's irrelevant if that's what people consider their background to be because, in reality, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Cornwall, Mann and Brittany are considered to be the Celtic nations whether they are closely connected or not.

There were no Celts in Britain before 1792.

Let's invade this strange Cornwall place. It's in the Middle East right?




What? It's in England?! :eek:

Have you got a source to back that up? In any case, it's irrelevant if that's what people consider their background to be because, in reality, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Cornwall, Mann and Brittany are considered to be the Celtic nations whether they are closely connected or not.

Well here is one for ya but remember Google is your freind:

http://www.clannada.org/metaphysics.php

So if I choose to say that I am of Tudor descent that actualy means something?

In all the nations you meantion you can see there is no one single line of ancestry. Our land, the whole of Britian is and has been for thousands of years a melting pot, with Picttic, Angle, Saxon, Viking, Breton, Roman(and that includes all of the conqured areas of the Roman empire), and Frankish at some time or other moving into it.

Let's invade this strange Cornwall place. It's in the Middle East right?




What? It's in England?! :eek:
No oil :eek:

Well here is one for ya but remember Google is your freind:

http://www.clannada.org/metaphysics.php

So if I choose to say that I am of Tudor descent that actualy means something?
Celtic refers generally to a group of peoples of a specific cultural background, Tudor to an era. I'd say the two are completely different in concept.

In all the nations you meantion you can see there is no one single line of ancestry. Our land, the whole of Britian is and has been for thousands of years a melting pot, with Picttic, Angle, Saxon, Viking, Breton, Roman(and that includes all of the conqured areas of the Roman empire), and Frankish at some time or other moving into it.
I doubt many people would disagree with that, but there is still a cultural distinction between the 'Celtic nations', including language, as the article you linked to states.

Never has there been a better argument for using up Trident and getting in a new system. Or not, maybe...

Celtic refers generally to a group of peoples of a specific cultural background, Tudor to an era. I'd say the two are completely different in concept.

And the word Celtic has been around for what 300 years, to explain a what supposedly common ancestry several thousand years old? No that makes no sense. If these Celts did not call them selves Celts(but where instead known by the names of their verious tribes) then the word is describeing a certian people(supposedly) over a certian time line. Realy then it is the same as the word Tudor.


I doubt many people would disagree with that, but there is still a cultural distinction between the 'Celtic nations', including language, as the article you linked to states.

When they say cultral they mean artistic. But languae, can you show me the simularities between these diverse languges?

The actaul Cornish language has a lot in common with the Flemmish languae, I don't recall the Flems being described as Celtic, but Flemmish.

The Galiec laguage which is often described as Celtic, does seem to have common ancestry with the language of Breton, but that is really the only conection that I can see.

Never has there been a better argument for using up Trident and getting in a new system. Or not, maybe...
Just nuke it after my holiday.

And the word Celtic has been around for what 300 years, to explain a what supposedly common ancestry several thousand years old? No that makes no sense. If these Celts did not call them selves Celts(but where instead known by the names of their verious tribes) then the word is describeing a certian people(supposedly) over a certian time line.
And I doubt the Anglo-Saxons referred to themselves as Anglo-Saxons, yet they existed, and are now referred to as Anglo-Saxons. In any case, they did call themselves Celts.

"All Gaul is divided into three parts, one of which the Belgae live, another in which the Aquitani live, and the third are those who in their own tongue are called Celts, in our language Gauls."

Realy then it is the same as the word Tudor.
I'll say it again. Tudor specifically refers to an era in time while the Tudor Kings and Queens were on the throne. The word Celt doesn't refer to any era in time.

When they say cultral they mean artistic.
I think we're now getting bogged down in semantics.

But languae, can you show me the simularities between these diverse languges?

The actaul Cornish language has a lot in common with the Flemmish languae, I don't recall the Flems being described as Celtic, but Flemmish.

The Galiec laguage which is often described as Celtic, does seem to have common ancestry with the language of Breton, but that is really the only conection that I can see.
Flemish is a Germanic language, and I doubt it has anything to do with the development of Cornish. The Celtic languages themselves are connected insofar as they all developed from common Celtic.

Never has there been a better argument for using up Trident and getting in a new system. Or not, maybe...

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