NationStates Jolt Archive

unofficial spinoff of "Best Nation in WWII"

Best in Production(military Production), Tatics, Military Commanders. Well basically everything as long as it in under military!

I say Germany for surviving a 2 front war for 4 years

I replied with the US, only because it managed to go from peacetime to wartime so quickly, and still managed to get much done. (Although I'm sure the past three years of war in the Central Powers didn't hurt).

I replied with the US, only because it managed to go from peacetime to wartime so quickly, and still managed to get much done. (Although I'm sure the past three years of war in the Central Powers didn't hurt).
Just keep in mind that your lads had to be trained and equipped by the French and British when you got here...



Oh and the British Empire. Simply because it won, and fought better than the French, in more environments.

*edits* And we invented the tank, which was pretty good and all.

I'm going to have to go ahead and say NOT Russia.

Germany sounds plausible to me, based on their ability to continue the fight with a fair degree of success for some time, even against the tactical nightmare of 2-front war.

of course....Russia got pwned by Germany.....

I Agree. They had the Best tactics (counterattacking immediatly after a loss of ground worked very well) and troops (they were outnumbered on both fronts except at the very beginning and at the very end.

Industrial production would go to the US as always, although they didn't produce more, they just had the capacity to produce more.

I'm going to have to go ahead and say NOT Russia.

Germany sounds plausible to me, based on their ability to continue the fight with a fair degree of success for some time, even against the tactical nightmare of 2-front war.

go Canada!

...which was part of the British empire at the time (still) I suppose... yay for being cannon fodder.

(also, my "go Canada!" should be read in the same sort of tone as Ralph Wiggum in the episode of the Simpsons where they get stranded on that island... when they're racing the fruit down the aisle and he places a banana in the way and says "go banana!")

Just keep in mind that your lads had to be trained and equipped by the French and British when you got here...

Oh and the British Empire. Simply because it won, and fought better than the French, in more environments.

First off, that was because Wilson didn't bother building up the military during the war, so was caught flat-footed. Belgium had a larger standing army than the US, and in 1917 the US was scrambling to conscript an army before France and Russia collapsed.

Second, of course the British fight everywhere. They're the British. They're the only Nation to send a military expedition to every continent (Antarctica included, although is was a testament to the stupidity of imperialism and lasted 2 days).

go Canada!

...which was part of the British empire at the time (still) I suppose... yay for being cannon fodder.

yep...us cannon fodder captured Vimy Ridge when the Brits and French couldn't

First off, that was because Wilson didn't bother building up the military during the war, so was caught flat-footed. Belgium had a larger standing army than the US, and in 1917 the US was scrambling to conscript an army before France and Russia collapsed.
France didn't collapse, Russia, outside of a single, well executed operation, was complete pap, but then your forces weren't on that front anyway.

You could have at least sent troops over with, you know, some degree of training, and enough rifles...
Second, of course the British fight everywhere. They're the British.
Damn right.
They're the only Nation to send a military expedition to every continent (Antarctica included, although is was a testament to the stupidity of imperialism and lasted 2 days).
We value our penguins.

Belgium. Had they not held the German's up for a few weeks, The Von Schliffen lan might actually have worked, and the war would have been over Really quickly.

Sorry, i only vote on Proper joke options (Myrth, Pancakes, etc). Not Generic ones. Therefore, your poll sucks.

As for the British, I have one word:Paschendale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschendale). Great idea, guys! :rolleyes: What a waste of human life.

There are no victors in war.

While I find WWI very interesting, it also represents extreme nationalism gone out of control, something I very much dislike.

Unlike WWII, which one can argue was a battle against totalitarianism, no one can deny that WWI was liitle more than an international pissing match gone awry. There were no "bad guys" and there were certainly no "good guys".

And the outcome with the nigh-vengeful Versailles Treaty wasn't much better than the war itself either.

...Ranting aside, from a purely millitaristic standpoint, Germany was the "best" nation in my opinion for their technological prowess, tactics, and the fact that they could have kept fighting if it wasn't for the fact that their morale was shot to hell after years of war.

Yeah there are.

...Ish...Especially after WWI...which for all intents and purposes was "World War II: The Prequel"

As for the British, I have one word:Paschendale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschendale). Great idea, guys! :rolleyes:
A lot of Generals made moronic mistakes on all sides - the British were no exception.


What a waste of human life.
That sums up the entire war.

There are no victors in war.

Yeah there are.

As for the OP, my country was starting a war of independence so I'm meh about the whole issue.

Just keep in mind that your lads had to be trained and equipped by the French and British when you got here...



Oh and the British Empire. Simply because it won, and fought better than the French, in more environments.

*edits* And we invented the tank, which was pretty good and all.

hey we help train them too

Brits were without a doubt most revolutionary ... the tank, close support artillery.... cant fault it.

All sides running into machine guns? idiocy all round haha.

Russians shouldn't really be here, darn traitors succumbing to revolution :sniper:

Rhodesia and Tuvulu.

your poll is much better than the other one, although i can't help thinking you could have tried harder with the joke option.

your poll is much better than the other one, although i can't help thinking you could have tried harder with the joke option.

thnx...next time I'll put an actual joke....:p

France because of artillery tactics and just generally having to take allot of hardship in having on many cases inferior equipment and a global conflict being fought right next to Paris

thnx...next time I'll put an actual joke....:p

well you managed the dead-pan "make your own joke" style of thing which can be very funny, but i lack wit and imagination and therefore i require jokes to be spelled out for me :p.

Gonna go with a country that wears these (http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeo7abf/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/husarenpelzmutzeoffzlh1neu-1912.jpg).

Prussian Uhlan Czapkas, for those interested. And the General's helmet feather thing too.

I really dig the over the top uniforms of Imperial Germany, to be honest.

unofficial spinoff of "Best Nation in WWII"

Best in Production(military Production), Tatics, Military Commanders. Well basically everything as long as it in under military!

I say Germany for surviving a 2 front war for 4 years

World War I sucked. There was no real reason for it. That is all.

WWI sucked


no one cares about that war

World War I sucked. There was no real reason for it. That is all.

WWI sucked


no one cares about that war

GET OUTTA MY NOSTALGIA! :p

I'm a bit confused as to why Germany's currently ahead in the pole. They gave up and accepted ridiculous terms without even having bothered to mobilise half the population -women- to do the work of the men they'd sent to the front. Guys, you need food! If they'd put a couple of minutes thought into their situation they could have forced recognition of the stalemate and got far better terms, probably eliminating the future power of the Nazis into the bargain.

Britain and Empire for getting thirty-odd thousand volunteers a day, inventing tanks, having far and away the best rifle on offer, and, uh, managing to keep up the ground war while completely wasting half the available resources on a tip top navy with nothing to do. Oh, and fighting in kilts in winter while ordering, 'you Scots/Irish, keep the backs of your knees clean!' which is obviously the most important thing in trench warfare.

No one cares about the Turks, Russians, Austro-Hungarians or Italians......:p

I'm a bit confused as to why Germany's currently ahead in the pole. They gave up and accepted ridiculous terms without even having bothered to mobilise half the population -women- to do the work of the men they'd sent to the front. Guys, you need food! If they'd put a couple of minutes thought into their situation they could have forced recognition of the stalemate and got far better terms, probably eliminating the future power of the Nazis into the bargain.

Britain and Empire for getting thirty-odd thousand volunteers a day, inventing tanks, having far and away the best rifle on offer, and, uh, managing to keep up the ground war while completely wasting half the available resources on a tip top navy with nothing to do. Oh, and fighting in kilts in winter while ordering, 'you Scots/Irish, keep the backs of your knees clean!' which is obviously the most important thing in trench warfare.

Two things: the British never were even threatened with war on British soil. Home soil was never threatened until WWII. The Germans, on the other hand, were facing the prospect of scorched earth through their country. Now, this would not have gone over well with an already revolting populace. Why the near revolts? British blockade of the North Sea prevented food going to both the military and civilians. Yes, the British starved civilians. Also, the Germans were hoping for leniency if they gave up without a fight.

Of course, the Allies screwed them by keeping them out of Versailles.

GET OUTTA MY NOSTALGIA! :p

WWII was a better war!!!!!

Of course, the Allies screwed them by keeping them out of Versailles.

The Allies screwed everyone with Versailles. It the number one cause of all modern problems. Yugoslavia, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, everything traces back to it.

The Allies screwed everyone with Versailles. It the number one cause of all modern problems. Yugoslavia, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, everything traces back to it.

Point of Fact is that the French pretty much wrote the treaty. Wilson had given up in disgust by this point, and the other nations weren't too far behind. Sadly, none stopped France from screwing Germany over.

Point of Fact is that the French pretty much wrote the treaty. Wilson had given up in disgust by this point, and the other nations weren't too far behind. Sadly, none stopped France from screwing Germany over.

Or the Middle East or... Africa? Or was that WW2?

In both WW1 and WW2 the war was won thanks to the American Empire.

China. ;)

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Germany or Britain.

But honestly I think Switzerland. Great tactics: stay the fuck out of it! :mp5::sniper::gundge::sniper::mp5::gundge::headbang::headbang:

But honestly I think Switzerland. Great tactics: stay the fuck out of it!

and run a super secret trade between the Entente and Germany in which Germans received rubber in exchange for German gun sights!

The Austro-Hungarian Empire. Because it was such a silly country.

...Ish...Especially after WWI...which for all intents and purposes was "World War II: The Prequel"

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/World_War_Two#Review_of_World_War_II

That is probably the best review of WW2 I have read.

Montenegro.

USA because of the neat pit bull poster.

http://i12.tinypic.com/5zbch9k.jpg

As for the British, I have one word:Paschendale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschendale). Great idea, guys! :rolleyes: What a waste of human life.

There are no victors in war.

The whle war was a pointless waste of life!

There are victors, the arms companies.

Germany. It might not have won, but it held out for a while on two fronts, which is very difficult. And I should know. I play Warcraft.

How does failing at a difficult job make it better than smeone who suceeded at another?

Also not getting invaded makes you less good? Nice logic really.

Seems to me that by 1918 the British Empire, for the first time in its history, was probably the most powerful force in the world by air, land and sea.

Seems to me that by 1918 the British Empire, for the first time in its history, was probably the most powerful force in the world by air, land and sea. And had been for some time.

And had been for some time.

I don't know. Britain's always had a relatively weak army in comparison to other countries. Not man for man, but generally quite small.

I reckon it's only 1918, with the french army practically burnt out, the german army, post spring offensive, pretty much done for and the US army pretty much beginners that the british Empire army can really put in a claim.

I don't know. Britain's always had a relatively weak army in comparison to other countries. Not man for man, but generally quite small.

I reckon it's only 1918, with the french army practically burnt out, the german army, post spring offensive, pretty much done for and the US army pretty much beginners that the british Empire army can really put in a claim. I would have to disagree. Yes our Army was small but it was, and had been since the Jacobite rebellions the best trained army in the world. A small army with the best training and the best weapons had managed to keep the British Empire stable all over the world, beat Napoleon and his huge army virtually single handily at the Battle of Waterloo and in the early stages of the Great War held of millions of German troops with only 100,000 of our own.

I can't decide, so let me think it out by writing. The Germans fought a two-front war virtually all alone. The Russians were a joke before they dropped out. The French sucked, but that's a given ;). The Brits did an amazing job at sea, okay on land. The US mobilized quickly and flooded the Allies with men and equipment, but their role in the actual fighting was too short to judge (though as an American, I think we would've been amazing). I guess I'll go with the Japanese. Minimal fatalities, control of Northern China, and a great expansion in her empire.

The period for which Germany fought, and, for the most part, fought with some superiority, upon two fronts, suggests that it was indeed, for the purposes of this, the "best" nation.

How can one opt for any of the original allies given that in concert they were unable to militarily defeat Germany.

I don't know. Britain's always had a relatively weak army in comparison to other countries. Not man for man, but generally quite small.

I reckon it's only 1918, with the french army practically burnt out, the german army, post spring offensive, pretty much done for and the US army pretty much beginners that the british Empire army can really put in a claim.

The British have always had a weak/small army compared to most. That's excluding the resources it could draw on from the Empire.

People often forget it had more manpower to draw on than anyone else bar potentially the Tsarists.

Germany. Cus if they'd won, the world would be a much better place.

Fuck they wouldn't even have had to win, just fight well enough not to get fucked over by the allies.