NationStates Jolt Archive


Cricket

Sel Appa
10-06-2007, 05:59
I've been curious about this "effectively unknown in the US" sport for some time and am interested in learning how to play and stuff. Any suggestions on how to start...? I don't really know what to ask.
Fassigen
10-06-2007, 06:06
You could ask: "Well, how do I use Google?" or "How do I use Wikipedia?"
Lacadaemon
10-06-2007, 06:07
I've been curious about this "effectively unknown in the US" sport for some time and am interested in learning how to play and stuff. Any suggestions on how to start...? I don't really know what to ask.

You are probably to old to learn how to play at this point. But that doesn't mean that you can't enjoy it as a spectator. The BBC, so I believe, has the rules on its website somewhere. Better yet, as you are in NJ, there are several leagues in NYC which play cricket on the weekend. Van Cortland park has a pretty decent local league system with the west indians and the pakistanis. Also Staten Island has a decent amateur league.

Anyway, the main thing to remember is that with cricket, it only matters when England plays Australia. And it only counts when England wins. (Which is far less often than I would prefer).
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
10-06-2007, 06:08
The rules are pretty simple - one guy has a funny flat bat, and another throws a red ball, which looks like it's made from rubber or some kind of wood. From there, it proceeds a little like baseball, but sort of different. That's how it looks to me. :p
Potarius
10-06-2007, 06:09
You could ask: "Well, how do I use Google?" or "How do I use Wikipedia?"

In the words of Michael Kelso...

BURN!
Fassigen
10-06-2007, 06:10
In the words of Michael Kelso...

Shut your hole. Cox is where it's at. Always Cox.
Imperial isa
10-06-2007, 06:11
Anyway, the main thing to remember is that with cricket, it only matters when England plays Australia. And it only counts when England wins. (Which is far less often than I would prefer).

so we'er taken the game you lot founded and are now better at it then you are, get over it
Lacadaemon
10-06-2007, 06:16
so we'er taken the game you lot founded and are now better at it then you are, get over it

I'm not saying that convicts aren't better at cricket. Prison blood I suppose.

I just prefer it when they don't win. (Anyway, cricket is older than Australia).
Sel Appa
10-06-2007, 06:16
You are probably to old to learn how to play at this point.

You can never be too old to learn. :p

You could ask: "Well, how do I use Google?" or "How do I use Wikipedia?"

Do you talk to both of your friends this way?
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
10-06-2007, 06:17
You can never be too old to learn. :p


I agree 100%. I learned how to bowl an average of nearly 150 pins/game even after having no interest until I was past 20 years old. It's never too late to learn! :)
Imperial isa
10-06-2007, 06:18
I'm not saying that convicts aren't better at cricket. Prison blood I suppose.

I just prefer it when they don't win. (Anyway, cricket is older than Australia).

ha i don't have convict in my blood line
Lacadaemon
10-06-2007, 06:20
ha i don't have convict in my blood line

Well then you are not a real Australian then, are you.
Potarius
10-06-2007, 06:21
Shut your hole. Cox is where it's at. Always Cox.

That's true, but old Perry never had such a simple, effective way of adding to the insult. Sure, his were better, but not as simple. And I was aiming for simplicity, because I'm tired. :D
Fassigen
10-06-2007, 06:21
Do you talk to both of your friends this way?

I don't need to, because even as imaginary friends, they both know how to use Google.
Imperial isa
10-06-2007, 06:23
Well then you are not a real Australian then, are you.

i'm we just came here of our free will
Andaras Prime
10-06-2007, 06:23
http://www.therulesofcricket.co.uk/

Your American so by nature it would be a little harder for you to get equipment, it really depends on how you wish to play. I have no doubt some Cricket venues and clubs exist somewhere in the US, it would be just a matter of finding the one closest to where you play. It really is fun, I play occasionally down at my park with friends.
Potarius
10-06-2007, 06:25
I don't need to, because even as imaginary friends, they both know how to use Google.

My inner self doesn't know how to use Google. I try to get through to him, but I don't speak Russian.
Fassigen
10-06-2007, 06:28
My inner self doesn't know how to use Google. I try to get through to him, but I don't speak Russian.

Lucky for you, Google does. (http://www.google.ru/)
Lacadaemon
10-06-2007, 06:30
http://www.therulesofcricket.co.uk/

Your American so by nature it would be a little harder for you to get equipment, it really depends on how you wish to play. I have no doubt some Cricket venues and clubs exist somewhere in the US, it would be just a matter of finding the one closest to where you play. It really is fun, I play occasionally down at my park with friends.

You can get slazenger stuff in the NE pretty easily.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
10-06-2007, 06:32
Do they make a good cricket videogame?

If you're anything like me, it would be the best way to learn! :p That's how I learned the rules of hockey and soccer, after all.
Aryavartha
10-06-2007, 06:33
Go to the nearest Uni and there will be a bunch of Indian students playing cricket in the empty parking lots in the night. If you show interest, they will take you in the game.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
10-06-2007, 06:36
Go to the nearest Uni and there will be a bunch of Indian students playing cricket in the empty parking lots in the night. If you show interest, they will take you in the game.

Didn't he say he was in the U.S. presently? Not sure about you, but I've never seen a bunch of indians on campus playing cricket here, when I was in school. ;)
Lacadaemon
10-06-2007, 06:41
Didn't he say he was in the U.S. presently? Not sure about you, but I've never seen a bunch of indians on campus playing cricket here, when I was in school. ;)

I think he's talking about California.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
10-06-2007, 06:41
I think he's talking about California.

Ah, fair enough. He could be right. :)
Terrorist Cakes
10-06-2007, 06:50
Hahah, now I get it.
IL Ruffino
10-06-2007, 06:52
Shut your hole. Cox is where it's at. Always Cox.

Cox and a burn? You're using medication, I hope..
Imperial isa
10-06-2007, 06:53
Hahah, now I get it.

what were you think it was
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
10-06-2007, 07:12
what were you think it was

+10 points for grammar! ;)
Terrorist Cakes
10-06-2007, 07:21
what were you think it was

Dude, you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Imperial isa
10-06-2007, 07:36
Dude, you have no idea what I'm talking about.

oh huh
Regressica
10-06-2007, 08:02
History of Cricket in America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_United_States_cricket)
United States national cricket team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_national_cricket_team)
Andaras Prime
10-06-2007, 08:18
History of Cricket in America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_United_States_cricket)
United States national cricket team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_national_cricket_team)

It's a real shame though you guys don't seriously play cricket, I mean you have 300 million people! Surely you can find players etc etc. You still would loose to Australia, but then again, everybody does;)
Philosopy
10-06-2007, 11:02
Cricket is a fantastic game, both to play and to watch. You should take it up, or at least listen to TMS, if only to hear Sir Viv talk about enjoying the dinner ladies dumplings.
Regressica
10-06-2007, 11:19
Cricket is a fantastic game, both to play and to watch. You should take it up, or at least listen to TMS, if only to hear Sir Viv talk about enjoying the dinner ladies dumplings.

TMS?

Out of curiosity, do you English know who Billy Birmingham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Birmingham) aka the 12th Man is?
Philosopy
10-06-2007, 11:23
TMS?
Test Match Special (http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/sol/newsid_4760000/newsid_4760700/4760793.stm?bw=nb&mp=rm).

I thought they broadcast it in Australia? At least, I thought they did at least when the two sides are playing each other, as a joint broadcast. I know the current game is going out in the Caribbean.

Out of curiosity, do you English know who Billy Birmingham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Birmingham) aka the 12th Man is?
No, I'm afraid not.
Aryavartha
10-06-2007, 14:23
I think he's talking about California.

I actually went to school in Dallas where night cricket was a common feature in schools having sizeable Indian students. I would imagine NJ schools to be the same, given that NJ has a lot of Indians and Pakistanis.

CA, especially the bay area has a lot of cricket activity in the summers. I used to be part of a team playing for a league. Our team sucked...:p
Ifreann
10-06-2007, 14:27
It's like baseball, but different in many many ways.



I think.
Atopiana
10-06-2007, 14:31
It's like baseball, but different in many many ways.



I think.

It's completely different. The only similarities are the use of 'runs' and hitting a ball with a bat. :p

After all, there's no Silly Mid-On (or Mid-Off) in baseball, and nor do you take a run up when bowling (in fact you pitch, don't you, not bowl). Etc.

Cricket - the sport of the gods.
Battered Haggis
10-06-2007, 14:59
It's like baseball, but different in many many ways.



I think.

well seing as Cricket predates baseball, and so does rounders or that matter, baseball could be said to be like cricket and rounders rather than the other way round :p
I V Stalin
10-06-2007, 16:20
http://www.therulesofcricket.co.uk/

Far too complicated. This version's much better:

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game.
Ifreann
10-06-2007, 16:21
Far too complicated. This version's much better:

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game.

It all makes sense now!
Deus Malum
10-06-2007, 16:54
I've been curious about this "effectively unknown in the US" sport for some time and am interested in learning how to play and stuff. Any suggestions on how to start...? I don't really know what to ask.

Step 1: Find a large concentration of Indians. You're in Jersey, so this should be easy.
Step 2: Make friendly with them.
Step 3: Be invited to play cricket, or ask if they play cricket and end up being invited along.
Step 4: ??
Step 5: Profit!
Soleichunn
10-06-2007, 16:59
Well then you are not a real Australian then, are you.

I thought Perth was a free colony...

I don't really like cricket.
Sel Appa
10-06-2007, 18:16
Do they make a good cricket videogame?

If you're anything like me, it would be the best way to learn! :p That's how I learned the rules of hockey and soccer, after all.

Really?

Go to the nearest Uni and there will be a bunch of Indian students playing cricket in the empty parking lots in the night. If you show interest, they will take you in the game.

I actually went to school in Dallas where night cricket was a common feature in schools having sizeable Indian students. I would imagine NJ schools to be the same, given that NJ has a lot of Indians and Pakistanis.

CA, especially the bay area has a lot of cricket activity in the summers. I used to be part of a team playing for a league. Our team sucked...:p

Actually I live near Edison, which has like the most Indians outside of India and the UK. At the Community College there, my mom says they play.

It's a real shame though you guys don't seriously play cricket, I mean you have 300 million people! Surely you can find players etc etc. You still would loose to Australia, but then again, everybody does;)

Shouldn't we be winning the FIFA World Cup also then? Honestly, the US is hopeless on so many levels. It's even almost revolution-proof.
Beddgelert
11-06-2007, 17:44
"Step 4: ??
Step 5: Profit!"

Haha!

Er, anyway... Americans aren't allowed to understand cricket. They'll end up spending billions of dollars at it and sticking Indian immigrants in the team and beating England. And that just wouldn't be cricket, now, would it?

In other news, I just got back from the pub, having watched and suitably celebrated (with half-price beer at the Prince) the final overs of the England-Windies test. Huzzah!
Deus Malum
11-06-2007, 17:48
Actually I live near Edison, which has like the most Indians outside of India and the UK. At the Community College there, my mom says they play.

You're from Edison? Wow. *points to his location* I'm practically next door.

You should check out Rutgers campus if you're able to get out there. I can find out from my brown buds who go there if there's anything cricket related going on over the summer.

Oh, that's true. I'm sure there are people who play cricket at MCC.
Beddgelert
11-06-2007, 17:49
"Shouldn't we be winning the FIFA World Cup also then? Honestly, the US is hopeless on so many levels. It's even almost revolution-proof."

Well, last I checked you were higher than, uhm, Australia in the FIFA world rankings.

...I can only assume that you keep playing Canada, Grenada, and other nations unfamiliar with the concept of victory, but, still... oh, and you arenumber one in the women's game.
Soleichunn
11-06-2007, 17:52
How seriously does Australia as a whole take soccer/football?

The only looked after state team is from Victoria. Is it any surprise that that the country as whole tends not to fund a soccer team that well?
Philosopy
11-06-2007, 17:54
In other news, I just got back from the pub, having watched and suitably celebrated (with half-price beer at the Prince) the final overs of the England-Windies test. Huzzah!

Please please please please please please please please please let this be a return to form of Harmison, and not just a one off.

He's such a dilemma - even when he's crap he takes wickets (mainly because the batsman don't know where the ball is going, in fairness), and when he's good, he's brilliant. It's amazing how far his goodwill has extended - but we all know how bloody amazing he can be. I hope Allan Donald is the key.

And raise a glass to Vaughan - an amazing record of 21 wins in 35 Tests (60%).
Beddgelert
11-06-2007, 17:58
"How seriously does Australia as a whole take soccer/football?"

Well, it's getting bigger, eh? Melbourne Victory drew a 50,000+ gate a couple of months ago. Of course all the good players jump ship and go to play in England or elsewhere in Europe as soon as they get the chance, but there's obviously a fair audience, if only because Victoria is physically addicted to sport in any form.
New Stalinberg
11-06-2007, 18:59
I tried playing some cricket with my Indian home-slices once.

Lamest

sport

ever.
Soleichunn
11-06-2007, 19:08
"How seriously does Australia as a whole take soccer/football?"

Well, it's getting bigger, eh? Melbourne Victory drew a 50,000+ gate a couple of months ago. Of course all the good players jump ship and go to play in England or elsewhere in Europe as soon as they get the chance, but there's obviously a fair audience, if only because Victoria is physically addicted to sport in any form.

I'd agree about that addiction. It was kind of funny to look at the end result of Victory 6 to Adelaide United 0.
Sel Appa
11-06-2007, 23:11
You're from Edison? Wow. *points to his location* I'm practically next door.

You should check out Rutgers campus if you're able to get out there. I can find out from my brown buds who go there if there's anything cricket related going on over the summer.

Oh, that's true. I'm sure there are people who play cricket at MCC.

I live just south of it, but yeah. I think I've been to the Texaco off the highway in Iselin quite a few times.

"Shouldn't we be winning the FIFA World Cup also then? Honestly, the US is hopeless on so many levels. It's even almost revolution-proof."

Well, last I checked you were higher than, uhm, Australia in the FIFA world rankings.

...I can only assume that you keep playing Canada, Grenada, and other nations unfamiliar with the concept of victory, but, still... oh, and you arenumber one in the women's game.
Yeah, we just played Trinidad and Tobago...who made the world cup, but prefer cricket. So we rack up points playing the CAribbean and Oceania teams.
Women's football/soccer is like Men's field hockey ;)
Katganistan
11-06-2007, 23:20
I've been curious about this "effectively unknown in the US" sport for some time and am interested in learning how to play and stuff. Any suggestions on how to start...? I don't really know what to ask.

Effectively unknown? It's played in a park three blocks from my house every weekend.

Well then you are not a real Australian then, are you.

No True Scotsman fallacy. ;)
Psychotic Mongooses
12-06-2007, 00:39
When Ireland beat Pakistan at the recent Cricket World Cup everyone was stunned.


We didn't even know we had a cricket team.
Deus Malum
12-06-2007, 00:40
When Ireland beat Pakistan at the recent Cricket World Cup everyone was stunned.


We didn't even know we had a cricket team.

You were all drunk when they made the announcement :D
Sel Appa
12-06-2007, 02:07
Effectively unknown? It's played in a park three blocks from my house every weekend.



No True Scotsman fallacy. ;)

Are they Indian ekchange students?
We asked the guy at Sports Authority yesterday and he said: "Isn't that an English game?"
Katganistan
12-06-2007, 02:48
Are they Indian ekchange students?
We asked the guy at Sports Authority yesterday and he said: "Isn't that an English game?"

Actually, they appear to be people of African descent -- most likely from the British Virgin Islands and similar places.