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USA thwarts anti-communist plot

Ariddia
08-06-2007, 11:57
US Intelligence has thwarted a plot by terrorists who planned to overthrow the "communist" government of Laos in a bloody coup.


US prosecutors have charged nine people with plotting a coup in Laos, in a conspiracy to murder thousands.

(Full article here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6721313.stm))
Vandal-Unknown
08-06-2007, 12:00
Everyday the world amuses me.
Yootopia
08-06-2007, 12:00
Oh the ironing.
Newer Burmecia
08-06-2007, 12:02
I can't really see how 9 people can overthrow a government.:p
Ariddia
08-06-2007, 12:04
Everyday the world amuses me.

I aim to entertain. ;)
Regressica
08-06-2007, 12:10
In Soviet Russia, government overthrows you!
Mirkai
08-06-2007, 12:11
In Soviet Russia, government overthrows you!

Please don't.
Mirkai
08-06-2007, 12:13
We're not in soviet russia thoguh. we're on NSG.

I meant use that lame-catchphrase-masquerading-as-a-joke.
Swilatia
08-06-2007, 12:13
Please don't.

We're not in soviet russia thoguh. we're on NSG.
Andaras Prime
08-06-2007, 12:20
In Soviet Laos, government overthrows 9 people.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
08-06-2007, 12:26
I guess it's still good PR to stop that kind of thing, even if we're not pleased with the targets. Odd stuff.
UN Protectorates
08-06-2007, 12:51
Wow. Good news for once.
The Potato Factory
08-06-2007, 13:04
Would it really be a tragedy if the Laotian communist government fell?
Andaras Prime
08-06-2007, 13:07
Would it really be a tragedy if the Laotian communist government fell?

If they replaced him with a US stooge who purged all leftists, yes.
UN Protectorates
08-06-2007, 13:10
Would it really be a tragedy if the Laotian communist government fell?

Prosecutors said the coup leaders planned to blow up government buildings and kill "thousands of people".

It would have been a tragedy for many Laos people if this coup had gone ahead. Political witch hunts and killings as the new government routed out all the "communist sympathisers".
The Potato Factory
08-06-2007, 13:16
It would have been a tragedy for many Laos people if this coup had gone ahead. Political witch hunts and killings as the new government routed out all the "communist sympathisers".

Well, I didn't actually READ any of it. Just the basic title.
Extreme Ironing
08-06-2007, 13:19
Oh the ironing.

Only if it's Extreme.
Arinola
08-06-2007, 13:28
I read the thread title, and my head exploded.
Arinola
08-06-2007, 13:29
Only if it's Extreme.

Lol. Clever.
Frydia and Love
08-06-2007, 14:10
Sometimes it looks to me as if some generals play NSG, only with an inverse ranking of values... These countries take their own communists which are theit citizens into prison and protect foreign ones by their intelligence services. Nice play - give me a tank and i'll join there...
Risottia
08-06-2007, 15:10
US Intelligence has thwarted a plot by terrorists who planned to overthrow the "communist" government of Laos in a bloody coup.

Looks like the CIA didn't yet find all the covert agents we threacherous commies placed there... ;)
Skibereen
08-06-2007, 15:18
US government fucks over people who helped them in a war yet again.

Thanks Unlce Sam!!!

I have many Laotian friends...all Hmong.

And what do they have in common...their families aided in anti-communist activities and they were forced to Flee their home land...for helping the US.

So when they decide to FINISH whatthe US started...that shit they helped with that cost them their country...what does Unlce Sam do? He rats them out sets them up and stabs them in the back.

Whoo hooo.

Fecking glorious.


I wish I had the money to leave this shit hole.
Ariddia
08-06-2007, 16:02
I read the thread title, and my head exploded.

:D

It would have been a tragedy for many Laos people if this coup had gone ahead. Political witch hunts and killings as the new government routed out all the "communist sympathisers".

Thinking of recent events in an eastern European country? (Well, without the killings.)
Zarakon
08-06-2007, 16:11
In other news, McCarthy has risen from the grave. In a press conference, he vowed revenge on those who had betrayed his dream.
Call to power
08-06-2007, 16:15
USSA pronounced UZA does sound spiffy :)
Rambhutan
08-06-2007, 16:19
This will really put Putin in a difficult position
Ifreann
08-06-2007, 16:24
Clearly the commies has fully infiltrated the US government. In fact, George Bush has probably been replaced with a communist clone.
Vittos the City Sacker
08-06-2007, 16:57
The Laotian government has been liberalizing their economy for 20 years now, they have normal trade relations with the US, are working towards WTO membership, and receive a great deal of IMF funding, so this really isn't a surprise.
Trotskylvania
08-06-2007, 21:25
US Intelligence has thwarted a plot by terrorists who planned to overthrow the "communist" government of Laos in a bloody coup.

(Full article here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6721313.stm))

Ohhh, the irony....

*remembers thousands of innocents killed in vain attempt to overthrow same communist government*
New Fedarationa
08-06-2007, 22:06
Communism is unfair, in despite of non-civilian control.
Gauthier
08-06-2007, 22:51
I meant use that lame-catchphrase-masquerading-as-a-joke.

What's pathetic is Yakov Smirnoff made the original Soviet Russia joke with a strong hint of Soviet Russia politics in it. All of the lame-catchphrase-masquerading-as-a-joke crap never do.

Here's a Soviet Russia Joke I made a whiles back during a certain controversy in Florida that keeps to the authentic flavor of political observations:

In the United States, people are fighting to keep Terri Schiavo on life support. In Soviet Russia, everyone knows Lenin is dead but they still have him on public display anyways.
Andaras Prime
09-06-2007, 01:42
US government fucks over people who helped them in a war yet again.

Thanks Unlce Sam!!!

I have many Laotian friends...all Hmong.

And what do they have in common...their families aided in anti-communist activities and they were forced to Flee their home land...for helping the US.

So when they decide to FINISH whatthe US started...that shit they helped with that cost them their country...what does Unlce Sam do? He rats them out sets them up and stabs them in the back.

Whoo hooo.

Fecking glorious.


I wish I had the money to leave this shit hole.

The Hmongs deserved everything they got for being such a bunch of CIA goons, they would mostly likely have put in a Bangladeshi like junta with a Ngo Dinh Diem-like tyrant at it's head if the coup actually worked.
Skibereen
09-06-2007, 03:30
The Hmongs deserved everything they got for being such a bunch of CIA goons, they would mostly likely have put in a Bangladeshi like junta with a Ngo Dinh Diem-like tyrant at it's head if the coup actually worked.

The Hmongs got they deserved?
Go back to Stormfront with that garbage you racist asshole.

The on going genocide of the entire Hmong population in SouthEast Asia, the wholesale slaughter of Hmong at Laotian government forces...just for fecking giggles. Yet they deserve that because you dont like their politics...go feck yourself.
http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engasa260042004
"the girls apparently raped before being killed -- by a group of approximately 30-40 soldiers. The victims -- four girls, Mao Lee, 14; her sister Chao Lee, 16; Chi Her, 14; Pang Lor, 14; and Tou Lor, Pang Lor’s 15 year old brother -- were killed whilst foraging for food close to their camp. They were unarmed."
Yeah they deserved that.


"The deadly attack, which took place some 20 kilometres northeast of the tourist town of Vang Vieng on 6 April 2006, claimed the lives of at least 26 people, mostly women and children. "
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGASA260022006?open&of=ENG-2S3
Filthy Hmong goons.

I suppose the Montanyards and Nungs should be all exterminated too right?
People like you make me sick.
Ancap Paradise
09-06-2007, 05:12
Oh for Christ's sake. Vang Pao and his guys are not terrorists. The Lao government is committing genocide - yes, genocide - against the Hmong people. If Vang Pao is a terrorist, then were the anti-Nazi resistance movements in Europe during WWII also terrorists?
Andaras Prime
09-06-2007, 05:18
I am not racist nor is that why I dislike the Hmongs, but they as a people made their choices first when they acted as mercenaries for the brutal French colonists in Indo China and against in the Secret War and the like with the CIA, they made their choices, and now they live with the consequences, good choices? No.
Ancap Paradise
09-06-2007, 05:21
I am not racist nor is that why I dislike the Hmongs, but they as a people made their choices first when they acted as mercenaries for the brutal French colonists in Indo China and against in the Secret War and the like with the CIA, they made their choices, and now they live with the consequences, good choices? No.

Did you know that since the communists came to power at least 10% of Laotians have fled the country? Funny how communists claim to represent "the people," yet whenever they come to power, people flee with their lives in terror?

The Laotian communists were and are genocidal, Stalinist bastards. They were far worse than the French colonists (who were, admittedly, very bad).

Moreover, you say you're "not racist" yet here you are, lumping together an entire group of people. Which is just what racists do.
Andaras Prime
09-06-2007, 05:30
Did you know that since the communists came to power at least 10% of Laotians have fled the country? Funny how communists claim to represent "the people," yet whenever they come to power, people flee with their lives in terror?

The Laotian communists were and are genocidal, Stalinist bastards. They were far worse than the French colonists (who were, admittedly, very bad).

Moreover, you say you're "not racist" yet here you are, lumping together an entire group of people. Which is just what racists do.

Did they know the consequences? Yes.
Ancap Paradise
09-06-2007, 05:32
Did they know the consequences? Yes.

You're pathetic. You have no compassion whatsoever. Innocent people, even children, are being butchered like animals, and you dismiss it without a single care. You're as bad as the National Socialists who sent the Jews, homosexuals, Slavs, etc. to the gas chambers.
Neo Undelia
09-06-2007, 06:05
Did they know the consequences? Yes.
And the children who weren't even alive during the US-led coup should suffer the consequences? The women who didn't fight? The men who just happen to be from the same ethnic group? Jesus Christ man. Genocide isn't ever acceptable. You can't blame a whole people for the actions of even a significant majority of said people, and you certainly can't shrug off genocide.

Well you can, but it makes you look like a cynical bastard.
Ancap Paradise
09-06-2007, 06:08
And the children who weren't even alive during the US-led coup should suffer the consequences? The women who didn't fight? The men who just happen to be from the same ethnic group? Jesus Christ man. Genocide isn't ever acceptable. You can't blame a whole people for the actions of even a significant majority of said people, and you certainly can't shrug off genocide.

Well you can, but it makes you look like a cynical bastard.

Well put.
New Stalinberg
09-06-2007, 06:09
"Are you Japanese or Chinese?"

"We are from Laos."

"Does that make you Chinese?"
Rikkilandi
09-06-2007, 06:41
As much as I hate communism I suppose it's a good thing the plan failed, stopping the government probably wasn't worth the deaths it would have caused and they probably would have only replaced it with a government just as bad.
Andaras Prime
09-06-2007, 06:42
And the children who weren't even alive during the US-led coup should suffer the consequences? The women who didn't fight? The men who just happen to be from the same ethnic group? Jesus Christ man. Genocide isn't ever acceptable. You can't blame a whole people for the actions of even a significant majority of said people, and you certainly can't shrug off genocide.

Well you can, but it makes you look like a cynical bastard.

Maybe then those Hmong who tried to overthrow and kill the people of Laos should have properly considered how the Laos government would have reacted, yes?
Europa Maxima
09-06-2007, 06:45
Maybe then those Hmong who tried to overthrow and kill the people of Laos should have properly considered how the Laos government would have reacted, yes?
Overthrowing the government is now tantamount to overthrowing the people (were that even possible)?
Ancap Paradise
09-06-2007, 06:58
Maybe then those Hmong who tried to overthrow and kill the people of Laos should have properly considered how the Laos government would have reacted, yes?

They tried to overthrow the government of Laos, not the people of Laos. Get your facts straight.

Oh, and I wonder if you'd show this much indifference if it were your children having their stomachs blown open or your female relatives being gang-raped.

'fess up. You are a Nazi.
Ariddia
09-06-2007, 09:35
The Hmongs deserved everything they got for being such a bunch of CIA goons

Because obviously the entire people, every last one of them, were "CIA goons". Even newborn children; they're the most vicious of all!

Is it so hard for you to realise that individual innocent people are being murdered?

I am not racist nor is that why I dislike the Hmongs, but they as a people made their choices first when they acted as mercenaries for the brutal French colonists in Indo China and against in the Secret War and the like with the CIA, they made their choices, and now they live with the consequences, good choices? No.

You do realise that makes absolutely no sense?

Has it occured to you that a great many Hmong would simply like to get on with their lives in peace, and always have done?

Let me put it another way. If a small number of active people who happen by pure chance to share your nationality or ethnic group do something wrong, does that mean you, as an individual, deserve to be brutally killed?
Atopiana
09-06-2007, 09:50
So... actually... what we have here is:

US props up corrupt and brutal Chi-Com style regime because it's capitalising a la China.

Fantastic work as usual guys at the CIA, keep it up, the dictators of the world can sleep soundly (so long as they don't have any oil). :p
Myotisinia
09-06-2007, 09:51
Wow. We get some good press for a change. How did that ever happen?

But even if it had succeeded.....

(insert drum roll here) No great Laos. (rimshot)
Ancap Paradise
10-06-2007, 03:29
Is it so hard for you to realise that individual innocent people are being murdered?

He doesn't care.

You do realise that makes absolutely no sense?

If a small number of active people who happen by pure chance to share your nationality or ethnic group do something wrong, does that mean you, as an individual, deserve to be brutally killed?

His answer: "If anyone from your ethnic group supported the U.S., then of course!"
Prumpa
10-06-2007, 03:32
We should have prosecuted those people. As the US recognizes the Laotian government, we would violate international law if we openly supported this coup.
South Lizasauria
10-06-2007, 03:35
In Soviet Russia, government overthrows you!

In Soviet Russia cats chase bears up trees (http://sovietrussiacatbear.ytmnd.com/)
Tolvan
10-06-2007, 07:14
We should have prosecuted those people. As the US recognizes the Laotian government, we would violate international law if we openly supported this coup.

They'll likely be charged with violating the Neutrality Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrality_Act), which was the same thing assclowns who thought up Operation Red Dog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Red_Dog) were charged with.
Soleichunn
10-06-2007, 15:12
It would have been a tragedy for many Laos people if this coup had gone ahead. Political witch hunts and killings as the new government routed out all the "communist sympathisers".

So it would be Poland except killings would just be accusations of people being soviet informants?

EDIT: Damn, Ariddia beat me to it.