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Remote Controlled Insects ('http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article1831494.ece')

Now all you need to do is apply the same technology to something say, like a large hornet. Let's genetically engineer this hornet to produce a different venom - say the venom from the box jellyfish, instead of the normal hornet venom.

Then you have a flying killing machine, that can assassinate virtually anyone where an insect can intrude.

The future is coming. No longer will advanced nations be content with a traditional airplane or tank. I believe that asymmetrical warfare is pushing the technology for this - trying to find means to counter small groups of people who intermingle and hide themselves within a large mass of civilians.

Imagine an altered stinging insect, watching and listening to a group of people speak subversively, plotting to take some direct action.

In a manner similar to the robot Predator aircraft, a room of government agents is watching and listening to the conversation. Then one of them gives an order.

The stinging insect attacks one of the people in the group, who feels the sting, and smacks what he thinks is a typical bug.

He then falls over dead.

You can't even fight back against something like that. You would be terrified to go outside.

Remote Controlled Insects ('http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article1831494.ece')

Now all you need to do is apply the same technology to something say, like a large hornet. Let's genetically engineer this hornet to produce a different venom - say the venom from the box jellyfish, instead of the normal hornet venom.

Then you have a flying killing machine, that can assassinate virtually anyone where an insect can intrude.

The future is coming. No longer will advanced nations be content with a traditional airplane or tank. I believe that asymmetrical warfare is pushing the technology for this - trying to find means to counter small groups of people who intermingle and hide themselves within a large mass of civilians.

Imagine an altered stinging insect, watching and listening to a group of people speak subversively, plotting to take some direct action.

In a manner similar to the robot Predator aircraft, a room of government agents is watching and listening to the conversation. Then one of them gives an order.

The stinging insect attacks one of the people in the group, who feels the sting, and smacks what he thinks is a typical bug.

He then falls over dead.

You can't even fight back against something like that. You would be terrified to go outside.

I have a new found respect for the noble moth

At first glance, one may think that it is merely an allergic reaction. After all, not all allergies are obvious until a person comes in contact with the source.

Technology is another factor in asymetric warfare...it is merely a reason to say a war is asymetric.

For instance if the US went to war with china we would by numbers be at he shity end of asymetrics...but technology wise it is china who eats the shit on that one...

Iti s the enemy of 4th gen warfare who doesnt require direct ledership, where there is no head to cut off.
Finding and killing all the elephants is easy...finding and killing all the fleas and lice isnt...who has killed more people?

The future of warfare is human intel, light fast reacion for effect, and cohesive global networking of allies.

Speed, tothe enemy, and the ability to deny him his assets.

At first glance, one may think that it is merely an allergic reaction. After all, not all allergies are obvious until a person comes in contact with the source.

You would have to go through the remains of the insect, looking for a chip.

If your friends found a chip, you would realize that you are screwed.

Eurgh, fuck, the last thing I want to see is militaries with that kind of power. Actually, scratch that, I don't want to see anyone with that kind of ability.

Jesus. It'd make dictatorships, totalitarianism, and everything else that comes with that package a billion times easier to accomplish.

Eurgh, fuck, the last thing I want to see is militaries with that kind of power. Actually, scratch that, I don't want to see anyone with that kind of ability.

Jesus. It'd make dictatorships, totalitarianism, and everything else that comes with that package a billion times easier to accomplish.

you think they can't kill you now?

Eurgh, fuck, the last thing I want to see is militaries with that kind of power. Actually, scratch that, I don't want to see anyone with that kind of ability.

Jesus. It'd make dictatorships, totalitarianism, and everything else that comes with that package a billion times easier to accomplish.

shhhh...the moths can hear you...take this can of Raid

Thats almost too much to believe! Holy shit...

Tom Clancy is already having a field day with this one!

Remote Controlled Insects ('http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article1831494.ece')

Now all you need to do is apply the same technology to something say, like a large hornet. Let's genetically engineer this hornet to produce a different venom - say the venom from the box jellyfish, instead of the normal hornet venom.

Then you have a flying killing machine, that can assassinate virtually anyone where an insect can intrude.

The future is coming. No longer will advanced nations be content with a traditional airplane or tank. I believe that asymmetrical warfare is pushing the technology for this - trying to find means to counter small groups of people who intermingle and hide themselves within a large mass of civilians.

Imagine an altered stinging insect, watching and listening to a group of people speak subversively, plotting to take some direct action.

In a manner similar to the robot Predator aircraft, a room of government agents is watching and listening to the conversation. Then one of them gives an order.

The stinging insect attacks one of the people in the group, who feels the sting, and smacks what he thinks is a typical bug.

He then falls over dead.

You can't even fight back against something like that. You would be terrified to go outside.

Electronic jamming. No signal, no control.

Electronic jamming. No signal, no control.

Or, if it's just a genetically engineered remote-control hornet.. Bug-screened clothing? RAID?

you think they can't kill you now?

Not that easily - at the moment it's more Georgi Markov style, at the most subtle. If you want to get en-masse removal of undesireables, you're looking at police raids and things.

But with XBOX 360-controlled killer wasps...

Electronic jamming.

Which then pinpoints you for the Predator drones' air-surface rocket. :p

As for RAID etc, you try that when you're outside!

Electronic jamming. No signal, no control.

And watch said killer insect proceed to breed with the general populace of its species and create a new menace that would terrify civilian populations due to the idiocy of the military? No thanks.

Which then pinpoints you for the Predator drones' air-surface rocket. :p

As for RAID etc, you try that when you're outside!

I doubt the Iraqi populace is worried about CFCs at the moment.

I doubt the Iraqi populace is worried about CFCs at the moment.

Aguh?

Where do CFCs come into it? :confused: I was just saying that bug sprays are next to useless outdoors...

Aguh?

Where do CFCs come into it? :confused: I was just saying that bug sprays are next to useless outdoors...

For some reason, your post brought to mind a group of downtrodden Iraqis throwing themselves at a terrorist because he was destroying the ozone layer.

Anyway, I believe the previous post that stated the risk of a genetically modified poisonous hornet breeding with the normal populace kinda put the cap on this idea. He's right.. I mean, it's not a likely thing.. but if it happened even once, and the strain continued to multiply, we would be fucked. You do not want instantly lethal hornets out there.

For some reason, your post brought to mind a group of downtrodden Iraqis throwing themselves at a terrorist because he was destroying the ozone layer.


Shhh...take this can of RAID...the moths can hear you...

the previous post that stated the risk of a genetically modified poisonous hornet breeding with the normal populace kinda put the cap on this idea.

No it didn't.

You make sterile hornets/wasps/whatever that can't breed.

Problem solved, killer insects away!

For some reason, your post brought to mind a group of downtrodden Iraqis throwing themselves at a terrorist because he was destroying the ozone layer.

"He's an infidel!"

"What do we do with infidels?!"

"We burn them!"

"No, build a bridge out of him!"

Atopiana: I still don't trust this sort of technology very far...mainly because I'm not seeing a possible positive purpose other than the idea of controlling insects to insure they pollinate plants when we want them to.

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Actually, that would be an extremely positive outcome of all of this.

Eurgh, fuck, the last thing I want to see is militaries with that kind of power. Actually, scratch that, I don't want to see anyone with that kind of ability.

Jesus. It'd make dictatorships, totalitarianism, and everything else that comes with that package a billion times easier to accomplish.

It's apparently easier than making a nuclear weapon.

Anyway, I believe the previous post that stated the risk of a genetically modified poisonous hornet breeding with the normal populace kinda put the cap on this idea. He's right.. I mean, it's not a likely thing.. but if it happened even once, and the strain continued to multiply, we would be fucked. You do not want instantly lethal hornets out there.

Well, this brilliant "What Could Possibly Go Wrong?" idea does come from the same guy who proposed the creation of a virus that could somehow genetically detect a human being's religious preference (in this case Islam) and sterilize them.

Remote Controlled Insects ('http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article1831494.ece')

Now all you need to do is apply the same technology to something say, like a large hornet. Let's genetically engineer this hornet to produce a different venom - say the venom from the box jellyfish, instead of the normal hornet venom.

Then you have a flying killing machine, that can assassinate virtually anyone where an insect can intrude.

The future is coming. No longer will advanced nations be content with a traditional airplane or tank. I believe that asymmetrical warfare is pushing the technology for this - trying to find means to counter small groups of people who intermingle and hide themselves within a large mass of civilians.

Imagine an altered stinging insect, watching and listening to a group of people speak subversively, plotting to take some direct action.

In a manner similar to the robot Predator aircraft, a room of government agents is watching and listening to the conversation. Then one of them gives an order.

The stinging insect attacks one of the people in the group, who feels the sting, and smacks what he thinks is a typical bug.

He then falls over dead.

You can't even fight back against something like that. You would be terrified to go outside.

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Well, this brilliant "What Could Possibly Go Wrong?" idea does come from the same guy who proposed the creation of a virus that could somehow genetically detect a human being's religious preference (in this case Islam) and sterilize them.

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HUH?! How the bloody FUCK could religious preference be genetic? Furthermore, why the hell would we release a virus that would sterilize people?! We have a hard enough time controlling bacterial infections that mutate due to antibiotics, and that's from normal diseases, not created ones! If that virus were to mutate at all to target others...it would be the end of the species real quick, especially since it would probably already be airborn if it was going to do any real damage to any population.

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HUH?! How the bloody FUCK could religious preference be genetic? Furthermore, why the hell would we release a virus that would sterilize people?! We have a hard enough time controlling bacterial infections that mutate due to antibiotics, and that's from normal diseases, not created ones! If that virus were to mutate at all to target others...it would be the end of the species real quick, especially since it would probably already be airborn if it was going to do any real damage to any population.

never heard of an islamamicrobe?

and even if it did mutate, generally these mutation are gradual. so first muslims, then other monotheistic religions. Then the polythestic religions. Athiests would be last.

Agnostics would probably survive though. fence balancing would give us the time to build up the necessary immunities.

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HUH?! How the bloody FUCK could religious preference be genetic? Furthermore, why the hell would we release a virus that would sterilize people?! We have a hard enough time controlling bacterial infections that mutate due to antibiotics, and that's from normal diseases, not created ones! If that virus were to mutate at all to target others...it would be the end of the species real quick, especially since it would probably already be airborn if it was going to do any real damage to any population.

Kimchi never did claim to have practical foresight when it came to his war boner ideas.

never heard of an islamamicrobe?

and even if it did mutate, generally these mutation are gradual. so first muslims, then other monotheistic religions. Then the polythestic religions. Athiests would be last.

Agnostics would probably survive though. fence balancing would give us the time to build up the necessary immunities.
You amuse me. That was actually pretty funny.
Kimchi never did claim to have practical foresight when it came to his war boner ideas.
Their ideas...though the particular idea we speak of is probably only shared by one of the people behind Remote Deep Eve Kimchi Observer Online.

No it didn't.

You make sterile hornets/wasps/whatever that can't breed.

Problem solved, killer insects away!

As said in Jurassic Park, life will find a way. Science is sometimes far to arrogant about these things.

However, there is nothing to indicate that a moth would be able to breed with other moths and somehow be able to generate microchips? Remember the chip is inserted not grown. This is why breeding isn't a danger.

The only problem with this is that it's ridiculously easy to counter. Sealed combat suits (which will be needed anyway in any conflict where NBC weaponry may be used) will stop the bugs. High Commands will be sitting in deep bunkers breathing recycled air. The only use for such devices is as terror weapons against civilians - and as bad as that is, it doesn't win wars.

Or, another option - your Hornet sweeps in to make it's strike, and is picked off by a guarding enhanced Dragonfly...

As said in Jurassic Park, life will find a way. Science is sometimes far to arrogant about these things.

However, there is nothing to indicate that a moth would be able to breed with other moths and somehow be able to generate microchips? Remember the chip is inserted not grown. This is why breeding isn't a danger.
Err, it has noting to do with the microchip. It has to do with the killer venom mentioned by whoever is behind Remote Observer today. I would not want that spread to the general populace of hornets.

Remote Controlled Insects ('http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article1831494.ece')

Now all you need to do is apply the same technology to something say, like a large hornet. Let's genetically engineer this hornet to produce a different venom - say the venom from the box jellyfish, instead of the normal hornet venom.

Then you have a flying killing machine, that can assassinate virtually anyone where an insect can intrude.

The future is coming. No longer will advanced nations be content with a traditional airplane or tank. I believe that asymmetrical warfare is pushing the technology for this - trying to find means to counter small groups of people who intermingle and hide themselves within a large mass of civilians.

Imagine an altered stinging insect, watching and listening to a group of people speak subversively, plotting to take some direct action.

In a manner similar to the robot Predator aircraft, a room of government agents is watching and listening to the conversation. Then one of them gives an order.

The stinging insect attacks one of the people in the group, who feels the sting, and smacks what he thinks is a typical bug.

He then falls over dead.

You can't even fight back against something like that. You would be terrified to go outside.
Figures that the media would pick MIT to feature. We've been doing things like this for about 10 years at Georgia Tech.

The only problem with this is that it's ridiculously easy to counter. Sealed combat suits (which will be needed anyway in any conflict where NBC weaponry may be used) will stop the bugs. High Commands will be sitting in deep bunkers breathing recycled air. The only use for such devices is as terror weapons against civilians - and as bad as that is, it doesn't win wars.

Or, another option - your Hornet sweeps in to make it's strike, and is picked off by a guarding enhanced Dragonfly...
Thank you for easing my overactive imagination. It's nice to have someone around who understands military strategy as thoroughly as you do without also being a conservative nutcase.

does anyone else see the hipocracy in a government that bans stem cell research but does not seem to have problem with blurring the line between animal and machine?

Remote Controlled Insects ('http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article1831494.ece')

Now all you need to do is apply the same technology to something say, like a large hornet. Let's genetically engineer this hornet to produce a different venom - say the venom from the box jellyfish, instead of the normal hornet venom.

Then you have a flying killing machine, that can assassinate virtually anyone where an insect can intrude.

The future is coming. No longer will advanced nations be content with a traditional airplane or tank. I believe that asymmetrical warfare is pushing the technology for this - trying to find means to counter small groups of people who intermingle and hide themselves within a large mass of civilians.

Imagine an altered stinging insect, watching and listening to a group of people speak subversively, plotting to take some direct action.

In a manner similar to the robot Predator aircraft, a room of government agents is watching and listening to the conversation. Then one of them gives an order.

The stinging insect attacks one of the people in the group, who feels the sting, and smacks what he thinks is a typical bug.

He then falls over dead.

You can't even fight back against something like that. You would be terrified to go outside.

scary stuff but it is in our future....allready here in a way.

does anyone else see the hipocracy in a government that bans stem cell research but does not seem to have problem with blurring the line between animal and machine?

Don't be silly. The administration values life.. which is why it's building these weapons..

Trilby63;12725461']Don't be silly. The administration values life.. which is why it's building these weapons..

Naw, it's just Pro Life until said Life is old enough to be deployed to Iraq.

We've been doing things like this for about 10 years at Georgia Tech.

Didn't Georgia come up with the two rifle rack pick-up truck?

Naw, it's just Pro Life until said Life is old enough to be deployed to Iraq.

Its a "culture of life", if I remember the phrasing correctly. Bush said it was something he and that Mr Sharons (who was visiting at the time) country shared.

great lets weaponize nature now....:rolleyes::mad: