NationStates Jolt Archive


Women and PMS

Brutland and Norden
30-05-2007, 13:57
Pre-Menstrual Syndrome, that is. (or Pre-Menstrual Tension, PMT, but I'm more used to PMS)

For men, do your partners experience PMS? Do you recognize that she's having PMS? What do you do when it strikes?

And for women, do you know if you have PMS? What is your PMS experience? Do you try to do anything about it?

Thoughts??

After being lashed out by three women having their PMS, I thought of this. Growing up in a home full of women, I now know that when the date of the month is in the 20s, I better be careful or sleep someplace else. They can be really really sensitive, or do some odd, out-of-character things.
And, also, word of wisdom: Stress + PMS = Nuclear Explosion.
Bottle
30-05-2007, 14:01
And for women, do you know if you have PMS?

Do I have a "pre-menstrual syndrome"? No. I am often unaware that my period is due until after it starts. Thankfully, being on birth control pills has helped make my cycle more regular, so I can be prepared around the approximate time my period starts (this cuts down on messes).

Sometimes I have a few minor physical symptoms before my period, like tenderness or a feeling of...I don't know, heaviness? Hard to describe. But these are usually minor enough that I don't notice them.


What is your PMS experience?

It's not pre-menstrual, but during my period I tend to be wicked hungry. Not sure why. No particular craving for any certain foods, I'm just hungry all the time.
Skibereen
30-05-2007, 14:02
...Men are not the only people with female partners...

Yes my wife gets it. Not all women do.
She suffers from very bad cramps, stomach aches and increased headaches. She is also very fatigued.

I track her cycle so I actually know when it is coming before she does...she asks me.

I do very little different then I normally do...I just try to be sensitive to her pain. If you were having a constant stomach ache would you wouldnt you be a little testy?

As for just being crazy...nah she isnt too bad like that.

I have been with women who dont suffer from PMS at all. They just cycle.
Peepelonia
30-05-2007, 14:02
Pre-Menstrual Syndrome, that is. (or Pre-Menstrual Tension, PMT, but I'm more used to PMS)

For men, do your partners experience PMS? Do you recognize that she's having PMS? What do you do when it strikes?

And for women, do you know if you have PMS? What is your PMS experience? Do you try to do anything about it?

Thoughts??

After being lashed out by three women having their PMS, I thought of this. Growing up in a home full of women, I now know that when the date of the month is in the 20s, I better be careful or sleep someplace else. They can be really really sensitive, or do some odd, out-of-character things.
And, also, word of wisdom: Stress + PMS = Nuclear Explosion.

Heh I always joke with my wife that she suffers PMS, whilst us men suffer PMT.

I always carry a bar of chocolate on my person at this time, make sure that I am avaliable for cuddles, tell my wife yes(no matter what the question) and this seems to work wonders.
Skibereen
30-05-2007, 14:04
It's not pre-menstrual, but during my period I tend to be wicked hungry. Not sure why. No particular craving for any certain foods, I'm just hungry all the time.

My wife attributes that to blood loss. But, she loses a LOT of blood.
Telesha
30-05-2007, 14:05
I go on vacation, alone.

No sense in both of us suffering.
Londim
30-05-2007, 14:06
" I heard somewhere that bears can smell the bllod. The menstrattion attracts bears!"

Cookie for the reference.
Skibereen
30-05-2007, 14:06
I go on vacation, alone.

No sense in both of us suffering.

You go on vacation about every 28 days?
Kryozerkia
30-05-2007, 14:07
I get PMS, but it's pretty mild. I just find that stuff tends to irritate me a little more than usual. Of course, I can kind of tell when to expect it because I use birth control pills.
Telesha
30-05-2007, 14:08
You go on vacation about every 28 days?

I just get out of the house as much as possible. My wife can become nearly impossible to tolerate being around when on her period.
Bottle
30-05-2007, 14:13
I don't understand the whole "raging bitch PMS" thing. Maybe it's because my own periods are so mild, but I just don't see why anybody would put up with somebody treating them like shit and blaming it on hormones.

Men have hormone cycles, too, and I sure as fuck don't let any guys treat me like crap and blame it on their testosterone. Why would I let a woman blame her bad behavior on her cycle?

It's one thing if your partner is feeling lousy and needs some comforting. It's another if they are verbally abusive and taking their moods out on you. If you're stupid enough to date the second type of person, then the problem is with YOU. Stop dating people who treat you like crap.
Damaske
30-05-2007, 14:14
The only symptom I get is an immense craving for chocolate (which I don't normally eat). What do I do about it? I eat chocolate. It's only when it's not available to me that I tend to get bitchy.
Fair Progress
30-05-2007, 14:14
My girlfriend doesn't experience it, fortunately (for both of us)
Aelosia
30-05-2007, 14:19
The red knight haven't asked for lodging here in a long time. Due to some medication, my period have been suspended for the last two years. So, I don't get the period, so I don't get PMS. According to my dad and brothers, although, the ausence of my period means that I live in a permanent state of PMS, but that is their opinion.

Back in the day, my period was so painful that I entirely forgot the PMS, only to think that those sharp cramps were coming again soon usually depressed me to no end, depressed and afraid.
Armistria
30-05-2007, 14:20
After being lashed out by three women having their PMS, I thought of this. Growing up in a home full of women, I now know that when the date of the month is in the 20s, I better be careful or sleep someplace else. They can be really really sensitive, or do some odd, out-of-character things.
And, also, word of wisdom: Stress + PMS = Nuclear Explosion.

Firstly, how do you know that it was PMS? Because most guys I know automatically assume that if a woman is in a bad mood then it's their (or nearing their) time of the month. Which is a pretty silly assumption - can't a woman be upset at other times of the month. If a man is upset, do people assume that he's having a manly version of PMS?

Are you referring to mood swings, though, or general symptoms? Because every menstruating woman will get some sort of symptom… A friend of mine feels so sick at times that she’s got to skip school/work for a couple of days until the pain dies down. I’m lucky that I don’t get any kind of side effects like that.

But if you’re implying “mood swings, irritability or anger”, then, yes, I hate to admit it, but I tend to get a little moodier at certain times of the month. And I normally don't notice it until after I've gotten a little too mad or annoyed about something that I shouldn't have. At that point I usually try to calm down and keep a firmer check on my moods/annoyances, or sometimes I'll just accept the fact that I'm in a bad mood and go with that. I find that the first option is normally the better one if I don't want my family to steer clear of me several days…
Telesha
30-05-2007, 14:22
I don't understand the whole "raging bitch PMS" thing. Maybe it's because my own periods are so mild, but I just don't see why anybody would put up with somebody treating them like shit and blaming it on hormones.

Men have hormone cycles, too, and I sure as fuck don't let any guys treat me like crap and blame it on their testosterone. Why would I let a woman blame her bad behavior on her cycle?

It's one thing if your partner is feeling lousy and needs some comforting. It's another if they are verbally abusive and taking their moods out on you. If you're stupid enough to date the second type of person, then the problem is with YOU. Stop dating people who treat you like crap.

This is why I just leave if it starts to come to a head. I don't put up with it, period. I always said (jokingly) that if she can blame her moodiness on estrogen then I can blame getting violent on testosterone.

Though my wife tends to get clingy, needy, and above all, horny rather than mean. Tends to wear real thin when your wife A)won't stop essentially molesting you and B)complains when you tell her to stop.

Usually just goes downhill from there.
Skibereen
30-05-2007, 14:29
Your complaining about a randy woman?

That is new to me.
Bottle
30-05-2007, 14:29
Firstly, how do you know that it was PMS? Because most guys I know automatically assume that if a woman is in a bad mood then it's their (or nearing their) time of the month. Which is a pretty silly assumption - can't a woman be upset at other times of the month. If a man is upset, do people assume that he's having a manly version of PMS?

Is your woman uppity? Talking back? Insisting that you do your share of housework? Angry at you for sleeping with the nanny again?

Never fear! This is a common woman-problem known as PMS!

The most effective way to eliminate this problem is to keep your woman in a perpetual state of pregnancy and childbirth. This will eliminate her period and will also provide her with other nagging targets (i.e. children).
Armistria
30-05-2007, 14:31
Is your woman uppity? Talking back? Insisting that you do your share of housework? Angry at you for sleeping with the nanny again?

Never fear! This is a common woman-problem known as PMS!

The most effective way to eliminate this problem is to keep your woman in a perpetual state of pregnancy and childbirth. This will eliminate her period and will also provide her with other nagging targets (i.e. children).

Wow, that sounds like a very 1950s approach... :D
Telesha
30-05-2007, 14:33
Your complaining about a randy woman?

That is new to me.

What can I say? My sex drive kinda dropped off in recent months.

Besides, the blood makes for a mess.
Bewilder
30-05-2007, 14:34
I get lots of physical symptoms in the couple of days before - bloating, back ache, sore boobs and belly, aching ankles, stomach cramps and tiredness. I also crave chocolate like mad and get horribly clumsy. Once I come on, I have oodles of energy for a couple of days and can be hugely productive.

I don't tend to get mood swings, and am not particularly tetchy at any time, but I find that my emotional responses (especially at the piano) are more intense.
Compulsive Depression
30-05-2007, 14:35
My girlfriend suffers really bad stomach cramps (not unusual for her to curl up on the settee, clutching her stomach, wincing - it looks very painful), headaches, cravings (often chocolate and such, amusingly), and claims she gets very irritable and bitchy (although I've never noticed this).

I bought her a teddy-bear containing a wheat bag you can heat in the microwave. Apparently he helps.

Recently she's been really irregular, too, which can be rather concerning. Sometimes she gets the symptoms but no bleeding. Seems to be caused by contraceptives.
Brutland and Norden
30-05-2007, 14:36
Firstly, how do you know that it was PMS? Because most guys I know automatically assume that if a woman is in a bad mood then it's their (or nearing their) time of the month. Which is a pretty silly assumption - can't a woman be upset at other times of the month. If a man is upset, do people assume that he's having a manly version of PMS?
My sister lashed out at me a few days ago, and now she's having her period. I don't usually blame it on PMS, but my mom told me sis is going to get her period soon, and it's just PMS... my sis gets her period immediately after my mother, so she knows when my sis is going to menstruate. (And my mom added that she was very irritable with her co-workers a few days ago too, before she had her period.)

No, I'm not saying that women should use PMS as an excuse; or every irritated woman is going to have her period soon.

And yes, growing up in a household full of women, I know I should just shut up when they're in those irritable state (and that's what I did). 'Cause I know now when is PMS an excuse, 'cause I know when would they get their periods. ;)

And during periods, a woman may be irritable as well - dysmenorrhea is not as trivial as you think.

Though some PMS is less emotional... I know of somebody who is prone to laughing without reason before she gets her period.
Armistria
30-05-2007, 14:40
No, I'm not saying that women should use PMS as an excuse;
Neither am I. PMS is a reason, not an excuse. Women shouldn't get away with lashing out at other people because of their periods, myself included.
Remote Observer
30-05-2007, 14:41
Take this ('http://www.njbiz.com/weekly_article_reg.asp?aID=65664473.7161667.921466.547465.3997005.242&aID2=70873') and there will be no more PMS.
Compulsive Depression
30-05-2007, 14:42
Take this ('http://www.njbiz.com/weekly_article_reg.asp?aID=65664473.7161667.921466.547465.3997005.242&aID2=70873') and there will be no more PMS.

Login required, it seems :/
Skibereen
30-05-2007, 14:43
What can I say? My sex drive kinda dropped off in recent months.

Besides, the blood makes for a mess.

http://www.red-wings.com/images/RedWings.gif

Thats all I have to say on that matter.
Telesha
30-05-2007, 14:46
-snip image-

Thats all I have to say on that matter.

And this is all I have to say on that matter:

no.
Remote Observer
30-05-2007, 14:48
Login required, it seems :/

It's about Lybrel, the new birth control pill that eliminates periods.

No period, no PMS.
Bewilder
30-05-2007, 14:48
It's about Lybrel, the new birth control pill that eliminates periods.

No period, no PMS.

except some people (i.e. me) react badly to hormonal birth control and have permanent PMS :(
Brutland and Norden
30-05-2007, 14:49
It's about Lybrel, the new birth control pill that eliminates periods.

No period, no PMS.
How 'bout the endometrial lining? Would it just be allowed to thicken and thicken???
Remote Observer
30-05-2007, 14:53
How 'bout the endometrial lining? Would it just be allowed to thicken and thicken???

No. Studies show that women who take Lybrel for years can stop taking the pill and become pregnant within 3 months with no problems.

The lining doesn't work the way you think it does.
Draconic Gehenna
30-05-2007, 14:58
Oh do I get PMS. I'm bitchy, I'm crmpy, I get pissed off easy, my emotions run amok. My boyfriend needs to walk on glass around me, cause if he gets me angry, I lash out at him. then again, I do that even when its not 'my time of the month', so that is no excuse. I don't have sex when I have my cycle, and never plan to. I don't understand why guys want to- well, all the guys i know want to.... :confused: :headbang: :rolleyes:
Compulsive Depression
30-05-2007, 15:02
It's about Lybrel, the new birth control pill that eliminates periods.

No period, no PMS.

Hormonal contraceptive injections seem to stop or reduce periods, but don't necessarily stop the PMS, unfortunately. Lybrel may work differently, of course. 98% effective isn't terribly reassuring though.

Shame there are bugger-all contraceptive options for men (condom, vasectomy, abstinence... Yay). *Rants and grumbles*
Bewilder
30-05-2007, 15:03
How 'bout the endometrial lining? Would it just be allowed to thicken and thicken???

As far as I know, most birth control pills prevent the lining thickening up anyway - its a part of how they prevent pregnancy. The ovaries don't release eggs, but in case that fails and an egg is released, the womb lining is kept too thin to allow the egg to implant.
Remote Observer
30-05-2007, 15:07
Hormonal contraceptive injections seem to stop or reduce periods, but don't necessarily stop the PMS, unfortunately. Lybrel may work differently, of course. 98% effective isn't terribly reassuring though.

Shame there are bugger-all contraceptive options for men (condom, vasectomy, abstinence... Yay). *Rants and grumbles*

Don't blame me. I have my vasectomy.
Compulsive Depression
30-05-2007, 15:07
Don't blame me. I have my vasectomy.

Not necessarily an ideal solution for a guy in his twenties.
Telesha
30-05-2007, 15:09
Hormonal contraceptive injections seem to stop or reduce periods, but don't necessarily stop the PMS, unfortunately. Lybrel may work differently, of course. 98% effective isn't terribly reassuring though.

Shame there are bugger-all contraceptive options for men (condom, vasectomy, abstinence... Yay). *Rants and grumbles*

Last I heard, they were working on a pill for men. Though it's apparently meeting some resistence in the male community (and they say women don't make any sense). I think it's in testing phases now, but the way the FDA works, it may not see the light of day for another decade.

As far as I know, most birth control pills prevent the lining thickening up anyway - its a part of how they prevent pregnancy. The ovaries don't release eggs, but in case that fails and an egg is released, the womb lining is kept too thin to allow the egg to implant.

That's how I understood it to work. It creates a series of failsafes: The egg shouldn't even release, but if it does: this, if that fails: this
Aelosia
30-05-2007, 15:14
No. Studies show that women who take Lybrel for years can stop taking the pill and become pregnant within 3 months with no problems.

The lining doesn't work the way you think it does.

I have critical endometryosis. I take Lupron, and yes, it works exactly like you say Lybrel works.

It eliminates the period, although, as someone already said, places you in a permanent state of PMS.
Infinite Revolution
30-05-2007, 15:16
in conversation with my flatmate today she said that her pill significantly ameliorates any PMS she might get and makes the period lighter. i have to say i've never noticed her being periodically irritable in the 2 years i've lived with her. my other flatmates i've lived with (all girls) have never seemed particularly pissed off except when they have other stress. well one of them was always psychotic but i don't believe she always had PMS, that would be unfortunate, i think that was more down to IBS and being a complete nutjob.
Compulsive Depression
30-05-2007, 15:16
Last I heard, they were working on a pill for men. Though it's apparently meeting some resistence in the male community (and they say women don't make any sense). I think it's in testing phases now, but the way the FDA works, it may not see the light of day for another decade.

There are various forms "in the works"; pills, injections, hormonal, non-hormonal; but most are at clinical trials at best. They've been 5-10 years from general availability for, ooh, ever.
Smunkeeville
30-05-2007, 15:16
I like my cycle, it's predictable, the whole thing. I kinda get bothered by men who don't understand that things are always going on for a woman, not just during menses. I get PMS, I have been able over the years to reduce some of the symptoms, but there are times when it's pretty bad. If I stay hydrated and try to reduce stress though, it's just something that I go through. I don't like women who make excuses about their behavior due to "I'm about to start".....it's something that happens, you need to learn to deal with it.*



*totally doesn't count for women who have severe symptoms, but they should see their doctor about what can be done to improve their quality of life.

My man pretty much knows my cycle, he is pretty sensitive to the whole thing. He lived through my pregnancy mood swings which weren't all that fun, and he stuck by me through a cumulative 83 hours of labor (64 with the first one, 19 with the second) and so he knows how I react to pain (I think badly, he thinks admirably).

He seems to understand that sometimes I need quiet (like when I get my pre-menstrual migraine.) and that sometimes I need chocolate, and that sometimes I really need to yell at someone......and he fills that role. (most of the time I am not really mad at him, so he gets to be empathetic.)
Remote Observer
30-05-2007, 15:19
I like my cycle, it's predictable, the whole thing. I kinda get bothered by men who don't understand that things are always going on for a woman, not just during menses. I get PMS, I have been able over the years to reduce some of the symptoms, but there are times when it's pretty bad. If I stay hydrated and try to reduce stress though, it's just something that I go through. I don't like women who make excuses about their behavior due to "I'm about to start".....it's something that happens, you need to learn to deal with it.*

*totally doesn't count for women who have severe symptoms, but they should see their doctor about what can be done to improve their quality of life.

My man pretty much knows my cycle, he is pretty sensitive to the whole thing. He lived through my pregnancy mood swings which weren't all that fun, and he stuck by me through a cumulative 83 hours of labor (64 with the first one, 19 with the second) and so he knows how I react to pain (I think badly, he thinks admirably).

He seems to understand that sometimes I need quiet (like when I get my pre-menstrual migraine.) and that sometimes I need chocolate, and that sometimes I really need to yell at someone......and he fills that role. (most of the time I am not really mad at him, so he gets to be empathetic.)

I don't care if women get PMS. It's not as though they don't have a reason to be upset.
Smunkeeville
30-05-2007, 15:21
I don't care if women get PMS. It's not as though they don't have a reason to be upset.

people have all sorts of reasons to be upset, I just think that if your life sucks, you are the one who needs to change it.

I spent a long time doubled over with cramps, missing school, crying at every perceived slight for 3 days a month......after a while, I figured out that was a crappy way to spend 3 days a month......so I found solutions.
UN Protectorates
30-05-2007, 15:30
I always find it very laughable when the only reason someone objects to a female attaining an authority position is, "she'll go crazy once every month and blow everything to hell!"
Chandelier
30-05-2007, 15:31
I'm not sure if I get PMS or not. The only thing that really happens before my period starts is that the cramps that I have for the first and sometimes the second day of my period start. It's just kind of annoying because I get cramps in my stomach, my back, and my knees, which makes it kind of hard to find a comfortable way to sit in school desks or backless cafeteria seats that are already uncomfortable. Plus it always seems to start when I'm in the middle of a test, which can be annoying because then I have to wait until after the test is over to put on a pad or anything.
Smunkeeville
30-05-2007, 15:33
I'm not sure if I get PMS or not. The only thing that really happens before my period starts is that the cramps that I have for the first and sometimes the second day of my period start. It's just kind of annoying because I get cramps in my stomach, my back, and my knees, which makes it kind of hard to find a comfortable way to sit in school desks or backless cafeteria seats that are already uncomfortable. Plus it always seems to start when I'm in the middle of a test, which can be annoying because then I have to wait until after the test is over to put on a pad or anything.

I found that those PMS pills they sell really do help a bit (a little) on really bad days......I think they are called Pamprin or something.
Glitziness
30-05-2007, 16:29
I can get really bad double-over-in-pain type cramps, but luckily not all the time. I think I might get slightly more emotional, but not bitchy or irritable as far as I know. As for craving chocolate... well, that's a daily thing with me :P

I think blaming unreasonable actions on PMS is just trying to find an excuse. Of course, expecting sensitivity and compassion when you're feeling a bit shit... doesn't that apply to anyone, anytime?

Of course, guys who mock whisper "oh, must be her time of the month" when a women speaks her mind (:eek:) are just as irritating.
Dempublicents1
30-05-2007, 16:31
I don't get any symptoms that I've noticed, although I am often much more interested in sex just before and just after my period. Way back when, before I went on the pill, I used to get some pretty awful cramps sometimes - and those certainly put me in a bad mood, but the pill got rid of those. =)
Telesha
30-05-2007, 16:32
Of course, guys who mock whisper "oh, must be her time of the month" when a women speaks her mind (:eek:) are just as irritating.

Ever tried mock whispering back "oh, he must not be getting any?"
Dempublicents1
30-05-2007, 16:39
Oh, and I'd also point out that men have a monthly hormone cycle as well - and can experience mood swings, etc. based on what point of that cycle they are at. Of course, they don't get the cramps, bleeding, etc. Lucky bastards.
SaintB
30-05-2007, 16:43
Well... when I'm in a relationship I tend to get cranky and tired about the time she hits her time of the month. Sometimes I even get mild diahajera and stomach pains. I always know when it hits them, or is going to...
SaintB
30-05-2007, 16:44
"oh, he must not be getting any?"

Hey now... its unfair to bring that up about me! :(
Neesika
30-05-2007, 16:48
I notice that I'm in the throes of PMS (a week before my period) when things that normally wouldn't irritate me suddenly do. Once I notice this, I give everyone warning, and try not to react to things too quickly during that time. Except on NS...you fuckers are open season, no apologies :P

That week is about the only week I'm not totally into sex as well.
Poliwanacraca
30-05-2007, 17:00
I'm one of those lucky people who gets ridiculous physical symptoms - cramps so bad I can't get out of bed, and, even worse, breasts so swollen and tender that even the faintest degree of pressure on them makes me bite my lip to keep from sobbing (which, among other things, means I can't walk up or down stairs without feeling like I'm being punched repeatedly in the chest). Nowadays, birth control helps alleviate both problems, so that I instead merely have what feels like a mild stomachache and can't wear underwire bras for a week. Still not fun, but definitely a huge improvement.

As for emotional symptoms, besides the mild crankiness one would expect from being achy and swollen-boobed, they mostly just manifest in the form of an excessive tendency to cry at sappy movies. :p
Peepelonia
30-05-2007, 17:03
Ever tried mock whispering back "oh, he must not be getting any?"

Bwhahahhaahha ohhh ohh dear!

Cheers!
Telesha
30-05-2007, 17:07
Bwhahahhaahha ohhh ohh dear!

Cheers!

It's the benefit of being on the team, I know all the holes in the playbook.

'Course, the playbook consists of, maybe, three plays and the rest of the pages are just pictures of naked women. But I'm not complaining.

I'm just glad my wife gets sappy and (admittedly annoyingly) grabby, all I have to do is go away. I don't think I could stand having to walk on eggshells every fourth week.
Peepelonia
30-05-2007, 17:12
It's the benefit of being on the team, I know all the holes in the playbook.

'Course, the playbook consists of, maybe, three plays and the rest of the pages are just pictures of naked women. But I'm not complaining.

I'm just glad my wife gets sappy and (admittedly annoyingly) grabby, all I have to do is go away. I don't think I could stand having to walk on eggshells every fourth week.

Ahh my wife is fine really, she gets a bit weepy, and then applogetic for being weepy! I give her chocolate, and cuddles, then three days later it's all back to normal.
Snafturi
30-05-2007, 17:14
I don't have it as long as I'm on birth control.



Hooray for Mirena!
Telesha
30-05-2007, 17:17
Ahh my wife is fine really, she gets a bit weepy, and then applogetic for being weepy! I give her chocolate, and cuddles, then three days later it's all back to normal.

Not quite. Weepy I could deal with, I'm a husband, they train us to tune that stuff out in the first week of Boot Camp. It's more like she get's grabby, get's mad because I tell her to stop, then comes the "I can't help it", and so on.

It only bothers me because she knows better than to keep groping after I've told her to stop.
Orlzenheimerness
30-05-2007, 17:33
Tired and Sore...And Moody.
Small House-Plant
30-05-2007, 22:22
:D Reminds me of the old joke:

"Why do women get PMS?"

:mad:"BECAUSE WE JUST DO ALRIGHT?!!!!":mad:
Sumamba Buwhan
30-05-2007, 22:33
My wife would get pretty emotional during her time of the month up until she got early menopause from the chemotherapy. We're still waiting to see if the menopause is permanent.
Steely Glint
30-05-2007, 22:55
When the girl I live with is on or due on, she goes on a massive cleaning spree.

It's brilliant, the house is cleaned top to bottom at least once a month and she never gets irritable.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
30-05-2007, 23:01
My girlfriend suffers really bad stomach cramps (not unusual for her to curl up on the settee, clutching her stomach, wincing - it looks very painful), headaches, cravings (often chocolate and such, amusingly), and claims she gets very irritable and bitchy (although I've never noticed this).

I bought her a teddy-bear containing a wheat bag you can heat in the microwave. Apparently he helps.

Heat relieves tensions that create the cramps. I have that tea can help. If it's before he has her period a hot bath can help otherwise that's a little bit to messy. there are also "pads" you can that heat up that you wear against your stomach that are really helpful. Besides that any muscle relaxent will help.

There is also "PMS" tea that helps.

Personally, I'm irratated but generally it's by things that other people have actually done wrong the annoys me more then it otherwise would. Usually it just causes me to get really quiet because I'm in a lot of pain (cramps) and have nothing nice to say. The only time I have "blow ups" is when people force me to respond (like my mum, who gets PMS at the same time as me, causing her to get angry at my tone and have her blow up)I'm never freaked out at someone randomly though, only if you force me to socialize.
Darknovae
30-05-2007, 23:52
I don't notice any PMS, except that I get depressed. I don't get cramps until the first day. And it's irregular (has been for three years). Besides, I haven't had it for three months, which worries me.
Johnny B Goode
31-05-2007, 00:15
I get IMS (irritable male syndrome) occasionally. :p
Dakini
31-05-2007, 01:33
I used to get cranky during my period (usually just the first day) for the first couple of years after I started having periods. Now I just get cramps and feel relieved that everything is ok with my body (at least in that respect... my periods sometimes get delayed when I'm stressed out and the like, so when they come on schedule I'm happy).
Dakini
31-05-2007, 01:46
It's about Lybrel, the new birth control pill that eliminates periods.

No period, no PMS.
I was on one set of pills once that made me PMS-y all the time. Seriously, I cried at the drop of a hat for three weeks before I decided to get off it.
Raistlins Apprentice
31-05-2007, 02:01
I always find it very laughable when the only reason someone objects to a female attaining an authority position is, "she'll go crazy once every month and blow everything to hell!"
<3

Anyway, my experience. Increased sex drive immediately before and after (but rarely any during). Not much mood swing. I should probably bother a doctor about this, but I think I've probably got dysmennorhea. Every time my period started in high school, my mother would have to come pick me up, drive me home, let me take advil and lie down with a heating pad, and then drive me back to school 1-3hrs later. Seriously. She could have tracked my cycle if she had felt like it. (Now that I'm in college I rarely have to miss class - I work around it). And then I also get nauseous, so I have diminished appetite for the first few days. And migraine. My hormones are one of my big migraine triggers. :mad: If I'm irritable during my period (which I might well be), then it's due to the pain.
Darknovae
31-05-2007, 02:09
I was on one set of pills once that made me PMS-y all the time. Seriously, I cried at the drop of a hat for three weeks before I decided to get off it.

My old ADD meds made me rather PMS-y all the time. I'm on better ones now. :)
Dakini
31-05-2007, 02:18
My old ADD meds made me rather PMS-y all the time. I'm on better ones now. :)
Those ones were birth control pills...
Darknovae
31-05-2007, 02:32
Those ones were birth control pills...

I knew that. I was just saying, my old ADD meds also made me PMS-y all the time.

My new ones do not. Though it wouldn't really make me PMS-y, since I haven't had a period in 3 months... I've been irregular for nearly 3 years now, which kind of worries me.
Dempublicents1
31-05-2007, 02:57
<3

Anyway, my experience. Increased sex drive immediately before and after (but rarely any during). Not much mood swing. I should probably bother a doctor about this, but I think I've probably got dysmennorhea. Every time my period started in high school, my mother would have to come pick me up, drive me home, let me take advil and lie down with a heating pad, and then drive me back to school 1-3hrs later. Seriously. She could have tracked my cycle if she had felt like it. (Now that I'm in college I rarely have to miss class - I work around it). And then I also get nauseous, so I have diminished appetite for the first few days. And migraine. My hormones are one of my big migraine triggers. :mad: If I'm irritable during my period (which I might well be), then it's due to the pain.

I had a friend with fairly similar symptoms. She was diagnosed with endometriosis. You may want to be checked for it, as it would be a good idea to get you on the birth control pill if that is the case. Untreated, endometriosis can lead to fertility problems.


My new ones do not. Though it wouldn't really make me PMS-y, since I haven't had a period in 3 months... I've been irregular for nearly 3 years now, which kind of worries me.

Irregularity is not unusual at your age. The only reason I can see to worry about going 3 months without a period (assuming that you aren't worried about pregnancy) is the fact that you have been losing weight - and that can affect your menstrual cycle. *hopes she's not mixing you up with someone else on NSG*

If the irregularity really bothers you, I'd highly recommend talking to your doctor (and presumably, your parents) about the pill. I was irregular, crampy, etc. before I got on it. Ever since, I've been incredibly regular (down to the day and usually the time of day), I have no cramps, and my period lasts an absolute maximum of 4 days. =)

As a general rule, I'm not a big fan of "better living through chemistry" unless you absolutely need it, but I make an exception for this one.
Smunkeeville
31-05-2007, 03:02
Irregularity is not unusual at your age. The only reason I can see to worry about going 3 months without a period (assuming that you aren't worried about pregnancy) is the fact that you have been losing weight - and that can affect your menstrual cycle. *hopes she's not mixing you up with someone else on NSG*

If the irregularity really bothers you, I'd highly recommend talking to your doctor (and presumably, your parents) about the pill. I was irregular, crampy, etc. before I got on it. Ever since, I've been incredibly regular (down to the day and usually the time of day), I have no cramps, and my period lasts an absolute maximum of 4 days. =)

another big reason can be stress, and pancake has been under a lot of stress lately. I think she should go to her doctor but to be prepared for the "it's normal"
speech. It's very normal to be irregular until you are in your 20's and even after that things like changing meds, loosing weight, and being stressed out can throw off your body.
Darknovae
31-05-2007, 03:06
Irregularity is not unusual at your age. The only reason I can see to worry about going 3 months without a period (assuming that you aren't worried about pregnancy) is the fact that you have been losing weight - and that can affect your menstrual cycle. *hopes she's not mixing you up with someone else on NSG*

If the irregularity really bothers you, I'd highly recommend talking to your doctor (and presumably, your parents) about the pill. I was irregular, crampy, etc. before I got on it. Ever since, I've been incredibly regular (down to the day and usually the time of day), I have no cramps, and my period lasts an absolute maximum of 4 days. =)

As a general rule, I'm not a big fan of "better living through chemistry" unless you absolutely need it, but I make an exception for this one.

Well, I've had my period since I was 12, and everyone (well... on the teen-girl advice sites that I now avoid liek the plague) said that it would be regular in 2 years or so. Didn't happen for me.

And the new health insurance doesn't kick in until Friday, so my mom won't take me to a doctor. I don't thik that she'd like the idea of me on BC anyway (though she's quite liberal on that issue). I'd like shorter and lighter periods though-- whenever I get mine, it's always uber-heavy and lasts about 6-8 days.
Smunkeeville
31-05-2007, 03:10
Well, I've had my period since I was 12, and everyone (well... on the teen-girl advice sites that I now avoid liek the plague) said that it would be regular in 2 years or so. Didn't happen for me.

And the new health insurance doesn't kick in until Friday, so my mom won't take me to a doctor. I don't thik that she'd like the idea of me on BC anyway (though she's quite liberal on that issue). I'd like shorter and lighter periods though-- whenever I get mine, it's always uber-heavy and lasts about 6-8 days.

I was like that, started when I was 10, was really really sick on my period, very heavy flow, and irregular. I went on low dose birth control and it cleared up, after I had my first kid things got much better.

If she isn't cool with the birth control you should talk to your doctor about other options (sometimes parents don't like the idea of the pill but would be okay with the patch or the shot)

really really explain to your mom how this affects your quality of life and that you need her help to find a solution.
Zwark
31-05-2007, 03:15
here's a story about PMSing.

i have this friend and i swear to god she's on her period everyday, i want to stab myself everytime she complanes about something it's like all they do. if i was dumb enough i would assume all girls were PMSing everyday all the time.

that's just what i think.
Raistlins Apprentice
31-05-2007, 03:28
I had a friend with fairly similar symptoms. She was diagnosed with endometriosis. You may want to be checked for it, as it would be a good idea to get you on the birth control pill if that is the case. Untreated, endometriosis can lead to fertility problems.

I believe they looked for that when I had stomach issues last year. Even if they didn't, theoretically it should have shown up on the CT scan they made me take (icky....drink....), so it's pretty safe to assume that I don't have it.
Brutland and Norden
31-05-2007, 03:29
Okay, folks, time to stop them flamin' and callin' names, lest some would get in trouble.
Raistlins Apprentice
31-05-2007, 03:31
Okay, folks, time to stop them flamin' and callin' names, lest some would get in trouble.

*agrees*
Brutland and Norden
31-05-2007, 03:36
I believe they looked for that when I had stomach issues last year. Even if they didn't, theoretically it should have shown up on the CT scan they made me take (icky....drink....), so it's pretty safe to assume that I don't have it.
Um, drink?? A barium swallow?? (The milky thing?)
Raistlins Apprentice
31-05-2007, 03:37
Um, drink?? A barium swallow?? (The milky thing?)

It was the barium swallow, yeah, but it was in Tang for me. >.<
It might taste okay if they put it in lemonade. But maybe I'm wrong.
Barringtonia
31-05-2007, 03:44
Here's a question:

In S. Korea they passed a law giving women one day's paid leave a month if they wanted to take it.

The question is: would you enjoy that, do you think it's a good idea?

I ask because I wonder if it would be viewed as a nice thing for a government to consider or whether it would be seen as setting back women's rights by implying they need that day off?
Brutland and Norden
31-05-2007, 03:45
It was the barium swallow, yeah, but it was in Tang for me. >.<
It might taste okay if they put it in lemonade. But maybe I'm wrong.
They're finding something in the GI tract, right?

But as Dempublicents said, perhaps you might need to get checked for endometriosis - that barium could've obscured the thing and/or the radiologist wasn't trying to find endometrial tissue somewhere (focusing on any GI abnormality). From what little experience I have, it might be hard to identify rogue endometrial tissue. Them rogue endometrial tissue, just like your uterine endometrium, grows and shrinks depending on your cycle. Perhaps it wasn't big enough when the CT scan was performed...
Raistlins Apprentice
31-05-2007, 03:58
They were looking for a lot of things. Including menstrual cysts.
Brutland and Norden
31-05-2007, 04:00
They were looking for a lot of things. Including menstrual cysts.
And they found nothing? No cause?
Raistlins Apprentice
31-05-2007, 04:01
Here's a question:

In S. Korea they passed a law giving women one day's paid leave a month if they wanted to take it.

The question is: would you enjoy that, do you think it's a good idea?

I ask because I wonder if it would be viewed as a nice thing for a government to consider or whether it would be seen as setting back women's rights by implying they need that day off?

Some do need it. I think it's fine since it's not mandatory. Now, if it were mandatory....
Raistlins Apprentice
31-05-2007, 04:02
And they found nothing? No cause?

Nope!
Which meant that the stomach issue was probably what they had suspected. Which it was, since it went away in the amount of time they said it would, and the meds & advice they gave me worked. ^_^
Dempublicents1
31-05-2007, 04:04
Well, I've had my period since I was 12, and everyone (well... on the teen-girl advice sites that I now avoid liek the plague) said that it would be regular in 2 years or so. Didn't happen for me.

My periods never got regular until I went on the pill (so they were irregular from 13 to 19).

And the new health insurance doesn't kick in until Friday, so my mom won't take me to a doctor. I don't thik that she'd like the idea of me on BC anyway (though she's quite liberal on that issue). I'd like shorter and lighter periods though-- whenever I get mine, it's always uber-heavy and lasts about 6-8 days.

A lot of parents don't like the idea all that much, but there are plenty of reasons other than the birth control one to get on it. I agree with Smunkee - make it clear to her how much the symptoms are bothering you.

Believe me, I'm not looking forward to going back to longer, heavier periods when I go off the pill. I'm hoping it (a) doesn't happen or (b) I get pregnant quickly when I stop taking it. LOL
Andaluciae
31-05-2007, 04:21
I wouldn't know.

My girlfriend managed to spend the past three periods on the pill, because of how timing lined up, so the first time that we'll have been together and she'll be experiencing PMS will be in the next several days. I hope all goes well...
Poliwanacraca
31-05-2007, 04:40
If it's before he has her period a hot bath can help otherwise that's a little bit to messy.

Um, there are these things called "tampons" that might help with that. :p
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
31-05-2007, 04:44
Um, there are these things called "tampons" that might help with that. :p

Right, I prefer pads so tend to forget that tampons exist. *blush*

Just ignore me...
Poliwanacraca
31-05-2007, 04:53
Right, I prefer pads so tend to forget that tampons exist. *blush*

Just ignore me...

Heh, understood.

For future reference, if there's one thing tampons are useful for, it's letting you take hot baths during your period. I'm not sure I'd survive my period if I couldn't have baths! :)
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
31-05-2007, 04:59
Heh, understood.

For future reference, if there's one thing tampons are useful for, it's letting you take hot baths during your period. I'm not sure I'd survive my period if I couldn't have baths! :)

Ah heating pads are my vice. That and pi.
Dempublicents1
31-05-2007, 16:59
Ah heating pads are my vice. That and pi.

3.14159265?

=)
Newer Burmecia
31-05-2007, 17:02
When my sister's not on it, my mum's on the menopause. Fun, fun, fun...
Angry Fruit Salad
31-05-2007, 17:03
Heh, understood.

For future reference, if there's one thing tampons are useful for, it's letting you take hot baths during your period. I'm not sure I'd survive my period if I couldn't have baths! :)

In case you didn't know, the bleeding generally stops for a while when you're in water, so tampons aren't even necessary.




Anyway, my two cents now: I've been on the pill for almost two years now, and I didn't even have PMS before I was on birth control. I do have a personality disorder, however, and I get really snappy when people chalk THAT up to PMS. I'll have mood swings for a few hours, usually ending in me going for a very long walk, coming back, and sleeping for a while. Last I checked, that's too freakin short to be PMS to begin with, and there is almost always some kind of situational or environmental trigger to chalk it up to.
SaintB
31-05-2007, 17:31
Well... when I'm in a relationship I tend to get cranky and tired about the time she hits her time of the month. Sometimes I even get mild diahajera and stomach pains. I always know when it hits them, or is going to...

I'm surprised nobody mentioned how wierd that is...

I probably shouldn't bring attention to it though <.<
Dempublicents1
31-05-2007, 17:59
I'm surprised nobody mentioned how wierd that is...

I probably shouldn't bring attention to it though <.<

It is not necessarily that odd. Like I said before, men have a monthly hormone cycle as well. And I would not find it surprising if, much like two women who are close (live together or spend a lot of time together) will end up with synchronized cycles, a man and a woman might do the same. I have not heard of many men having so many physical side effects, but I really have no reason to think it does not happen.
Telesha
31-05-2007, 18:04
It is not necessarily that odd. Like I said before, men have a monthly hormone cycle as well. And I would not find it surprising if, much like two women who are close (live together or spend a lot of time together) will end up with synchronized cycles, a man and a woman might do the same. I have not heard of many men having so many physical side effects, but I really have no reason to think it does not happen.

We cycle much, much faster than women do. I believe it's literally somewhere in the hours or days range compared to your month.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
31-05-2007, 18:28
3.14159265?

=)

No, 3.14159265358979323:)