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Let this actually happen (http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=11497). It will make the Republican debates even more hysterical to watch.

Sen. Tom Coburn is mulling an entry into the Republican presidential primary, according to sources inside and outside the Senate. Coburn, a senator from Oklahoma, is believed to be receiving encouragement from a small group of wealthy businessmen and philanthropists in the Oklahoma-Kansas-Texas region of the country.

"He's all about faith, lower taxes, and staying the course in Iraq," says an adviser outside of the Senate who has been speaking to Coburn.

Coburn had been mulling a run earlier this year, but with what appeared to be a crowded field, including two sitting Senators (John McCain and Sam Brownback), along with another seriously looking (Chuck Hagel), Coburn appeared to pull back.

"He's not bound to any timetable or any fundraising imperative," says a longtime adviser to Coburn, who has spoken with him. "What's important for him is that there is no other true, Reagan conservative in the race, and he thinks he can fill that void."

Coburn is believed to have the backing of several low-profile members of the so called "Swift Boaters," men who financed the ads that doomed the presidential aspirations of Sen. John Kerry.

Now, since the people on here who aren't political junkies have no idea why I would love to see this guy get in the race, here's why (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Coburn).
"The gay community has infiltrated the very centers of power in every area across this country, and they wield extreme power... That agenda is the greatest threat to our freedom that we face today. Why do you think we see the rationalization for abortion and multiple sexual partners? That's a gay agenda."and this:
"Lesbianism is so rampant in some of the schools in Southeast Oklahoma that they'll only let one girl go to the bathroom. Now think about it."
He's a nutball that would put all the other nutballs to shame. And that just might make me watch a Republican debate.

I would sell my soul to have that man as the Republican presidential candidate.

I would sell my soul to have that man as the Republican presidential candidate.

But, people in the USA would vote for him.

Can you really trust the American electorate not to vote for him, though?

"Lesbianism is so rampant in some of the schools in Southeast Oklahoma that they'll only let one girl go to the bathroom. Now think about it."Oh my God, I actually remember that.

But still, nah, giving him attention and a soap box is just aggravating.

"Lesbianism is so rampant in some of the schools in Southeast Oklahoma that they'll only let one girl go to the bathroom. Now think about it."

No, no. You guys didn't understand this quote. He's explaining that the school's failure to count twins as two different people is leading to lesbianism. Duuuuhhh...

Wow.
I mean wow.

And only letting one girl to the bathroom at a time I bet has more to do with chatty teens or fighting or something then hot teen lesbian sex in school bathrooms...hot...but pure fantasy...so we clearly see where his mind is...right next to mine.

Gays are the clearest threat to our freedom.

I want to point out yet again I am a Baptist.

Homosexuals are no threat to my freedom, they arent a threat to my family(barring like a gay drunk driver or psychokiller, or cook who doesnt clean properly) they are no threat to my faith, or to my personal sexuality.


I just dont get understand hating a group of people so much.
How can one put Jesus's seal of approval on xenophobia.

Fecking Okie water must be full of some whacky shit.

Can you really trust the American electorate not to vote for him, though?
You know, I actually was thinking that but I was too nice to post it. :p

But, people in the USA would vote for him.

I said that first!

Bastard Jolt. :mad:

You know, I actually was thinking that but I was too nice to post it. :p

The wouldn't show you the same courtesy.

I said that first!
Bastard Jolt. :mad:

Mwoahahaha!

omg, that would be great, look at some of the things he has said (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Coburn#Controversies)

You know, I immediately thought about silicone breast implants and the legal wrangling and the class-action suits off that. And I thought I would just share with you what science says today about silicone breast implants. If you have them, you're healthier than if you don't. That is what the ultimate science shows...In fact, there's no science that shows that silicone breast implants are detrimental and, in fact, they make you healthier.

:p

But, people in the USA would vote for him.

...not after Bush.

dont get me wrong, had bush not fucked the Repubs then he might win...luckily Bush has signed a death snetence for Republican '08 canidate.

...I hope.

The wouldn't show you the same courtesy.How do you know?

You know, I actually was thinking that but I was too nice to post it. :p

Well, I didn't actually mean it in a nasty way - it's a two party system, so many difficult issues will often boil down to 'either for them or against'. In other words, people who are only moderately conservative might still vote for him as the lesser of two evils (ie not voting Democrat).

I still don't see the problem everyone has with that so-called "gay agenda". So what if homosexuals keep their schedule in a shiny little pink handbook adorned with a couple of fluffy feathers?

Also, since when do books have sexual a orientation anyway?

I'll never understand these silly politicians.

...not after Bush.

They voted for Bush after Bush. Your point is negated.

How do you know?

Oh, call it a hunch.

...not after Bush.

dont get me wrong, had bush not fucked the Repubs then he might win...luckily Bush has signed a death snetence for Republican '08 canidate.

...I hope.

I don't know, I could stand Ron Paul winning. I wouldn't like it, but it would make me happier then if, say, Hillary won.

"He's all about faith, lower taxes, and staying the course in Iraq," says an adviser outside of the Senate who has been speaking to Coburn.
So he's another idiot who happens to be a career politician?

omg, that would be great, look at some of the things he has said (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Coburn#Controversies)



:pO_O
The mind is boggled.

Well, I didn't actually mean it in a nasty way - it's a two party system, so many difficult issues will often boil down to 'either for them or against'. In other words, people who are only moderately conservative might still vote for him as the lesser of two evils (ie not voting Democrat).Suuuuuure. ;)

j/k

"Lesbianism is so rampant in some of the schools in Southeast Oklahoma that they'll only let one girl go to the bathroom. Now think about it."

*Thinks about it*

:eek:

*Thinks some more*

Yes, we all knew this was comming sooner or later - I just felt I had to step up to the plate on this one, surprised as I was that nobody had said it before me :p

But, people in the USA would vote for him.

Can you really trust the American electorate not to vote for him, though?

You know, I actually was thinking that but I was too nice to post it. :p
*sigh*


but I don't waaaaaanna be associated with them!

Well, I didn't actually mean it in a nasty way - it's a two party system, so many difficult issues will often boil down to 'either for them or against'. In other words, people who are only moderately conservative might still vote for him as the lesser of two evils (ie not voting Democrat).

I'd like to think there are some candidates so odious that only the party faithful will support them, and that a nationwide Coburn candidacy would be one of them. So would, I believe, a Brownback candidacy, and Gingrich candidacy. The one thing that someone like Coburn getting traction might do--and I don't think he'll get any, mind you--would be to encourage someone like Hagel or Bloomberg to try an independent run, which would only help the Democratic candidate, whoever it winds up being.

I still don't see the problem everyone has with that so-called "gay agenda". So what if homosexuals keep their schedule in a shiny little pink handbook adorned with a couple of fluffy feathers?

Also, since when do books have sexual a orientation anyway?

I'll never understand these silly politicians.It actually took me until the word "books" to get that.

Excuse me while I go shoot myself.

*sigh*

but I don't waaaaaanna be associated with them!

If it soothes, and of course it should, I associate you with the very un-USA value of hotness. :)

No, no. You guys didn't understand this quote. He's explaining that the school's failure to count twins as two different people is leading to lesbianism. Duuuuhhh...

Oh! Never mind. I misinterpreted the quote. I thought he meant that only one girl using the bathroom at a time lead to lesbianism, not the other way around...

I'll go with the Ozzy Osbourne answer on this one. HAHAHAAAAA!!! (bites head off bat)

*sigh*


but I don't waaaaaanna be associated with them!You can come crash on our couch. *nods*

"He's all about faith, lower taxes, and staying the course in Iraq," says an adviser outside of the Senate who has been speaking to Coburn.

Now that's something new!

You can come crash on our couch. *nods*

Back off bitch, I saw him first! He'll be sleeping on a sofa and not a "couch". Well, that's where people will think he slept anyway...

*looks at various quotes by Coburn*

So I see he's basically the equivalent of the joke option on an NSG poll.

It actually took me until the word "books" to get that.

Excuse me while I go shoot myself.

Did you know that lesbianism is so rampant in southern Oklahoma that they'll only let one girl shoot themselves at a time?

*looks at various quotes by Coburn*

So I see he's basically the equivalent of the joke option on an NSG poll.

Fad declared. Whenever someone makes a poll, add Coburn as one of the options. Also gay sex.:fluffle:

Back off bitch, I saw him first! He'll be sleeping on a sofa and not a "couch". Well, that's where people will think he slept anyway...That wasn't a royal "our", you know. Greedy fags.

Did you know that lesbianism is so rampant in southern Oklahoma that they'll only let one girl shoot themselves at a time? I shall make sure that I only shoot myself outside of Southern Oklahoma, then.

That wasn't a royal "our", you know. Greedy fags.

I don't share with hags.

Fad declared. Whenever someone makes a poll, add Coburn as one of the options. Also gay sex.:fluffle:

I'm going for a walk--it's the closest thing I get to exercise--but when I get back, I'll post a poll, and those two will be options.

Ooh. Looks like an interesting fellow...

He probably won't get in, so is good for the comedy value.

And even if people are imbecilic enough to vote for him, it will just be even funnier for even longer; and he can't really do much of a worse job than the alternatives.

So its a win-win situation.

Ideally he somehow makes the final candidate and then gets soundly thrashed by the democrats (better is better, even if its as tiny a margin as it is between republicans and democrats...)

They voted for Bush after Bush. Your point is negated.
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Touche'

But, people in the USA would vote for him.

That's their problem. Unless this guys hears that Ireland might have oil.

I phear this man may be less conservative than Bush. What's wrong with lesbians?

Also, a little late out of the gate, don't you think?

That's their problem. Unless this guys hears that Ireland might have oil.

Only in their hair. ;)

Only in their hair. ;)

Shhhh, don't let him hear you!

Shhhh, don't let him hear you!

What's he gonna do? Your hair's already on fire!

Ooh, being mock juvenile is fun! We never had a red head to bully in my school yard.

Shhhh, don't let him hear you!
As a girl in a cosmetics thread on another forum once said when the big debate about the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge was raging: "My skin is so oily the Shrub is already making noises about drilling." :p

As a girl in a cosmetics thread on another forum once said when the big debate about the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge was raging: "My skin is so oily the Shrub is already making noises about drilling." :p

Eeeuw.

What's he gonna do? Your hair's already on fire!

Ooh, being mock juvenile is fun! We never had a red head to bully in my school yard.

But.....I don't have red hair.

But.....I don't have red hair.

Fine Irishman you are!

I would sell my soul to have that man as the Republican presidential candidate.

That's what I said about Bush, both in 2000 and 2004. I was sure there was no way Americans would be stupid to vote for that guy, and certainly not twice.

I hate people.

I phear this man may be less conservative than Bush. What's wrong with lesbians?

Also, a little late out of the gate, don't you think?

I don't think there's anything wrong with lesbians. I even get along with my ex-wife.

As for being late out of the gate, not with this crowd, and not when the first caucus isn't until next January. Gingrich has said he won't make a decision until September.

*snip*

Now I know why I distrust politicians. They do not know what the truth is if it hit him/her upside the head with a 2x4. :headbang:

Seems he's the guy that made Ted Stevens pitch a fit because he was the guy who suggested moving Ted's Bridge cash to Katrina.

Lol.

Seems he's the guy that made Ted Stevens pitch a fit because he was the guy who suggested moving Ted's Bridge cash to Katrina.

Lol.

Which is a perfect example of even an idiot being right once in a dog's ass. (I have no idea what that means--I just heard my former girlfriend's dad say it once and it stuck with me.)

Let this actually happen (http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=11497). It will make the Republican debates even more hysterical to watch.



Now, since the people on here who aren't political junkies have no idea why I would love to see this guy get in the race, here's why (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Coburn).
and this:

He's a nutball that would put all the other nutballs to shame. And that just might make me watch a Republican debate.

Yet ANOTHER good poll selection from Nazz. *bows*

...not after Bush.

dont get me wrong, had bush not fucked the Repubs then he might win...luckily Bush has signed a death snetence for Republican '08 canidate.

...I hope.

You never know, Bush got a second term. Let's hope the 22nd Amendment holds up until lemon-head leaves.

Seems he's the guy that made Ted Stevens pitch a fit because he was the guy who suggested moving Ted's Bridge cash to Katrina.

Lol.
Ted "The Hulk" Stevens has been busy, it might appear ...:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20070529-1815-wst-senatorshome.html

..when, of course, he's not defending his own son about what appears to be VERY similarly-related issues...:

http://www.adn.com/front/story/8928963p-8829176c.html
The no-bid deal raised hackles among some Republicans as well as Democrats last year. But it was defended by Stevens' son, then-Senate President Ben Stevens, R-Anchorage.

"It's obviously a strategic maneuver at the national level, so why would we put it out to an RFP and tell the opposition what we want to do?" Ben Stevens said at the time.

+

http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=6482583


Two infants with the same stone.

They voted for Bush after Bush. Your point is negated.
Not just that, but they voted for Bush after voting for Bush after voting for Bush. The residents of Florida even voted for Bush after voting for Bush after voting for Bush (for governor) after voting for Bush.

Oh, man, I'd forgotten all about his "Schindler's List" idiocy! That was funny stuff. :)

I also apparently missed the "fake boobies make you healthy!" story. Tee hee.

I thought the reason they only let one kid go to the bathroom at a time was because they'd all get together and smoke cigarrettes while they should be in class...

He's a reliable vote in the Senate, and does some good work, but I agree that his position on the gays is sketchy, at best. He needs some perspective, especially as an old man commenting on high schools. :p

I also apparently missed the "fake boobies make you healthy!" story. Tee hee.

Okay, this I have to ask: Who here would prefer a world with that being true and who would prefer reality as it is (in the regard of the healthiness of breast implants)?

I'd say who wouldn't want but I have to make the question unbiased. ;-D

I thought the reason they only let one kid go to the bathroom at a time was because they'd all get together and smoke cigarrettes while they should be in class...

Probably. :p Or snort (smoke?) methamphetamine, given it's Oklahoma. :D

Okay, this I have to ask: Who here would prefer a world with that being true and who would prefer reality as it is (in the regard of the healthiness of breast implants)?

I'd say who wouldn't want but I have to make the question unbiased. ;-D

I like reality. :)

I like reality. :)

Ditto. My breasts really don't need augmentation, after all. :p

Find me the town that is actually running rampant with lesbianism and I swear to dog I'll sell my house and move there.

Find me the town that is actually running rampant with lesbianism and I swear to dog I'll sell my house and move there.

If it wasn't haram, I'd move with you and watch :P

If it wasn't haram, I'd move with you and watch :P

Til then, we'll have to stay content with the "300" episode of South Park.
:eek:

If it wasn't haram, I'd move with you and watch :P

Don't you see? ALL the good things are haram.

It pays to be an atheist.

Not just that, but they voted for Bush after voting for Bush after voting for Bush. The residents of Florida even voted for Bush after voting for Bush after voting for Bush (for governor) after voting for Bush.

Be fair. The residents of Florida did refuse to vote for a Bush once--the first time Jeb! ran for governor, he lost pretty handily. They just didn't keep it up.

The fear in all this is that the Republicans put forward a bunch of crackpots and the one slightly sane person seems extraordinary by comparison.

The Democrats put forward a host of intelligent candidates who tear each other to shreds with their debates, splitting the voters who 'will never vote Clinton/Obama/Edwards etc and none look special.

Guess who wins?

The fear in all this is that the Republicans put forward a bunch of crackpots and the one slightly sane person seems extraordinary by comparison.

The Democrats put forward a host of intelligent candidates who tear each other to shreds with their debates, splitting the voters who 'will never vote Clinton/Obama/Edwards etc and none look special.

Guess who wins?

Verily, you wound me.

The fear in all this is that the Republicans put forward a bunch of crackpots and the one slightly sane person seems extraordinary by comparison.

The Democrats put forward a host of intelligent candidates who tear each other to shreds with their debates, splitting the voters who 'will never vote Clinton/Obama/Edwards etc and none look special.

Guess who wins?

Were 2008 going to be a regular election year, I'd be more worried, but we're talking about an election year where the Republican party (especially the base) is the party of an unpopular war and the base is the only one still supporting the incumbent President, Mr. 30% himself. The Republican candidates can't stray too much or they'll piss off the people doing the nominating, but every time they hug Bush and this war, they piss off the independents. I still believe that by October 2008, both nominees of the major parties will be talking about when they'll start getting troops out of Iraq, because they'll have to be--Bush ain't pulling out, because in his simple little head, leaving is losing. The question will be, who can promise that more credibly, and which party's base wants them to promise that more.

I like the Democrats' chances right now.

Were 2008 going to be a regular election year, I'd be more worried, but we're talking about an election year where the Republican party (especially the base) is the party of an unpopular war and the base is the only one still supporting the incumbent President, Mr. 30% himself. The Republican candidates can't stray too much or they'll piss off the people doing the nominating, but every time they hug Bush and this war, they piss off the independents. I still believe that by October 2008, both nominees of the major parties will be talking about when they'll start getting troops out of Iraq, because they'll have to be--Bush ain't pulling out, because in his simple little head, leaving is losing. The question will be, who can promise that more credibly, and which party's base wants them to promise that more.

I like the Democrats' chances right now.

I'd like to throw in a spanner - just before those elections is the Beijing Olympics where I think, for the first time, China will beat out America in the medal tables - this will be seized upon by the right to stir up fear, add a mixture of economic job loss, sprinkle some terror and put in the oven of patriotism to produce a fine cake of republicanism.

Here's one (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.republicanvoices.org/ReaganE.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.republicanvoices.org/reagan.html&h=325&w=450&sz=55&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=cnYdEtfpM1KI3M:&tbnh=92&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dreagan%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2006-28,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN)I prepared earlier

My only caveat, and hope I might add, is that I'm not American, don't live in America and therefore can't accurately gauge American's mood.

My only caveat, and hope I might add, is that I'm not American, don't live in America and therefore can't accurately gauge American's mood.
Erm, try "pissed off"?

Erm, try "pissed off"?

Fair enough but a week's a long time in politics let alone a year.

The Democrats have a long time in Senate to piss plenty people off as they have Cindy Sheehan and her ilk already and a 'fresh face of republicanism' might stand a good chance - mainly because I think the Democrats are going to tear themselves apart on issues whereas Republicans will stand for whoever wins - as nearly always happens.

It takes a really great Democrat or a really bad Republican for Democrats to win these days. Given the average, the Republican wins.

It takes a really great Democrat or a really bad Republican for Democrats to win these days. Given the average, the Republican wins.
Could be the number of daggers the republican so readily wields, and the one or two extra s/he keeps just out of sight until you turn around.


Speaking of which: DeLay was on Colbert last night! :eek:

omg, that would be great, look at some of the things he has said (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Coburn#Controversies)



:p

he's an MD and he said that BS about breast implants? what is this guy smoking?

They voted for Bush after Bush. Your point is negated.

Well no, that would mean that his two terms went exactly the same way.

Well no, that would mean that his two terms went exactly the same way.

Oh, snap!

And they would've too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.

Oh, snap!

And they would've too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.

Well, they have had one thing in common--both terms started out badly, and quickly got worse.

But, people in the USA would vote for him.
And if they did, it would allow you to become all smug and indignant about the depths of ignorance and stupidity Americans must stoop to for them to vote for such a poopyhead.
It's win-win all round!

Well, they have had one thing in common--both terms started out badly, and quickly got worse.

Two things, methinks: what you posted, and gross GROSS (144 x a normal gross) negligence/incompetence.

I'd like to throw in a spanner - just before those elections is the Beijing Olympics where I think, for the first time, China will beat out America in the medal tables - this will be seized upon by the right to stir up fear
I really hope the average American is smart enough to realise that China is of course going to win more medals than the USA in the 2008 Olympics, due to the amount of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs Chinese athletes are currently taking yet won't (:rolleyes:) be detected neither now or in a year's time.

I really hope the average American is smart enough to realise that China is of course going to win more medals than the USA in the 2008 Olympics, due to the amount of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs Chinese athletes are currently taking yet won't (:rolleyes:) be detected neither now or in a year's time.

Uh huh. Like how American athletes can only win foreign games when they're pumped full of drugs. Remember that French cyclists tournament?

Pre-emptive accusations FTW.

Uh huh. Like how American athletes can only win foreign games when they're pumped full of drugs. Remember that French cyclists tournament?

Pre-emptive accusations FTW.
You don't know how seriously the PRC are taking the '08 Olympics. They have a seriously huge chip on their collective shoulders about how the World perceives China. Thus, doing well in the Olympics will make everyone else bow down in awe of the amazing, exciting, powerful China.
At least that's how it's being played out in the propaganda leaflets that pass for newspapers in the Mainland.
Which creates a not-insignificant problem for the PRC: how to fulfill their own propaganda, and win more medals than any other country?
Simple - nearly every Chinese athlete will be given special Chinese 'herbs and medicines' that will improve their performance markedly. Also promote facial hair growth, Adams apples, enlarged labia and physiques of small trucks in women, whilst men will have the pleasures of testicular shrinkage, bitches tits and uncontrollable bouts of rage.

As for that French cyclist tournament, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone on that tour in the top 50 who hasn't taken some sort of PED.

This Brownback guy is nucking futs. Someone should take a shot at him.

Bush is bad, this guy is worse.

Nah, this is the state of politics nowadays.

I'm waiting for Rosie O'Donnell to declare her candidacy. Then the Democrats will have their own Ron Paul to deal with.

Why yes, there is a lesbian problem in SE Oklahoma high schools.

There isn't enough of them, they aren't naked enough, they aren't old enough, and they aren't on my television.

Bush is bad, this guy is worse.

Ayup. But not by much.

I'm waiting for Rosie O'Donnell to declare her candidacy. Then the Democrats will have their own Ron Paul to deal with.
She's been honing her skills and sharpening her wit with Elizabeth Hasselbeck for a while now - she's ready to move on to bigger feasts.

http://www.lushtshirts.co.uk/images/products/chocolate_lesbians.jpg


Anyway I would most certainly like to see this guy run. It'll add an extra something to the presidential race. I also wouldn't mind finding out how Fox News would spin it.