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Afterlife

Wilgrove
29-05-2007, 04:33
What do you guys think the next life (if you believe there is one) will be like?

I believe that depend on what you do in this life determines what happens in the next, If you're a good person who helped your fellow human being and lived a good life, you are rewarded and vice versa. However, I also think that if we have free will in this life, then why wouldn't we have it in the next? Simply put, the next life is probably as complex as this one is.
Neo Art
29-05-2007, 04:35
What do you guys think the next life (if you believe there is one) will be like?

Nada, zip, zero, zilch. Live, die, and that is all
Proggresica
29-05-2007, 04:35
Hmm, a lot of religion threads today, even by NSG standards.

I don't, as I see no evidence for it.
Curious Inquiry
29-05-2007, 04:39
Watch this (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087980/) for an interesting take.
Cookesland
29-05-2007, 04:40
i believe there's one im just not sure what it is...
Minaris
29-05-2007, 04:40
the next life is probably as complex as this one is.

That sounds about right.

I couldn't see how people could resign themselves to playing harps on clouds for eternity anyway.
Wilgrove
29-05-2007, 04:42
That sounds about right.

I couldn't see how people could resign themselves to playing harps on clouds for eternity anyway.

I'd probably want to be a ghost for awhile, and then talk to famous people, talk to the Divinity, and stuff like that.
Minaris
29-05-2007, 04:44
I'd probably want to be a ghost for awhile, and then talk to famous people, talk to the Divinity, and stuff like that.

And then? You've got forever to go here, so you're gonna have to do something else.

Of course, Nirvana doesn't sound bad. And by Nirvana, I mean:

"Nirvana: Where You Rock Out For Eternity" :D
Wilgrove
29-05-2007, 04:48
And then? You've got forever to go here, so you're gonna have to do something else.

Of course, Nirvana doesn't sound bad. And by Nirvana, I mean:

"Nirvana: Where You Rock Out For Eternity" :D

Well it's hard to fill up eternity with stuff to do! lol. I wonder if they'd allow me to possess a living person if I go to the good place.

Hmmm..... :D
Curious Inquiry
29-05-2007, 04:48
That sounds about right.

I couldn't see how people could resign themselves to playing harps on clouds for eternity anyway.

Try this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdh9N00FjDw) instead
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
29-05-2007, 04:48
Could be anything or nothing at all, or some other state entirely. Hard to say.
Lunatic Goofballs
29-05-2007, 04:49
According to Ben Casey, after Death comes Infinity.

Sounds exciting. :)
Posi
29-05-2007, 04:51
I have a feeling earthworms would be involved, but I am not sure how.
Ginnoria
29-05-2007, 04:56
Our souls just go up to the roof and get stuck. Doesn't matter what you've done in life.
Callisdrun
29-05-2007, 04:56
I believe the spiritual afterlife is much like this world. Except better. And with the capacity for boredom greatly reduced. And with the amount of sex greatly increased (but without pregnancy and STD's).

Nobody else's ideas about it have any more chance of being right than mine does.
Boonytopia
29-05-2007, 05:01
I don't think there is an afterlife. I think that once we are dead, that's it for us.
Hynation
29-05-2007, 05:03
My friend I'm going to live forever, even if I have to die trying
Fassigen
29-05-2007, 05:09
There is no afterlife, because the concept is nonsensical, but if there were, the version of it in "Defending Your Life" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defending_Your_Life) would be amusing.
Lunatic Goofballs
29-05-2007, 05:12
There is no afterlife, because the concept is nonsensical, but if there were, the version of it in "Defending Your Life" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defending_Your_Life) would be amusing.

Best bad movie ever. :)
The Nazz
29-05-2007, 05:19
This really is one of those things where I'm truly agnostic. But I will say this--if the christian heaven is as boring as Dante made it seem, I'd just as soon do anything else.
Fassigen
29-05-2007, 05:19
Best bad movie ever. :)

It actually has a +90% rotten tomato rating, so I wouldn't quite count it as bad, per se. Just, not as good as it could have been, but that's basically what one can say about most things by Al Brooks.
Vetalia
29-05-2007, 06:33
Ehh, probably just reincarnation. That seems like the best bet and makes the most sense. Either that, or something like Hades in Greek mythology...I doubt it's going to be particularly good or fun.
Muravyets
29-05-2007, 06:39
I was all set to ignore this topic and move on when I suddenly realized I didn't have a short, ready answer to it, so I just had to post. My take on "afterlife" is this, sort of:

A) Who cares? What possible difference can the issue make to our lives now? Like "what is the purpose of life?" and "is there a god?", "is there an afterlife?" is a question so irrelevant as to be completely meaningless.

B) That said, I do believe there probably is one. Sort of. But not really the way many other people think of it.

C) I believe in souls and I believe that souls are immortal, so obviously I believe that they continue to exist after our physical bodies die. But what happens to them or where they go, that I do not pretend to know. My least favorite speculation is the heaven/hell model because that seems so limited, so -- I don't know -- unsatisfying, in a way. My preferred speculations include reincarnation into other forms, repeatedly - the end of each life marks the beginning of the next.

D) I don't buy into the karma notion that the quality of our lives will get better or worse depending on how "good" we are during them. I don't believe that life is "leading" us anywhere.

E) When I talk about "lives," I should specify physical lives, i.e. in a body of some kind, because souls don't die. They just change bodies like sets of clothes. That's my personal belief. So, in my belief, there really is no such thing as death, in a way. This body will die; this identity will disappear; but the soul which is me (in a sense) will continue on its merry (hopefully) way. So, to that extent, I guess I really don't believe in "afterlife" because, on the soul level, there is no "after" about it. Life, meaning existence, is continuous.

F) But all that doesn't change the fact that I really don't care because even if there is no continuation of life after death, that doesn't affect what we do during this life in any way at all.
Delator
29-05-2007, 06:47
I'm not sure what the afterlife might consist of, but I am certain that balloons are involved. :)
Vetalia
29-05-2007, 06:48
My friend I'm going to live forever, even if I have to die trying

HIGH FIVE! I'm in the live forever or die trying club too...
Hynation
29-05-2007, 06:59
HIGH FIVE! I'm in the live forever or die trying club too...

Because dying...is the last thing we'll ever do :)
Cabra West
29-05-2007, 07:09
What do you guys think the next life (if you believe there is one) will be like?

I believe that depend on what you do in this life determines what happens in the next, If you're a good person who helped your fellow human being and lived a good life, you are rewarded and vice versa. However, I also think that if we have free will in this life, then why wouldn't we have it in the next? Simply put, the next life is probably as complex as this one is.

I don't believe there will be any. We die, we decompose, that's it.
Trollgaard
29-05-2007, 07:18
Valhalla. We will feast, drink, and fight until the world ends.
Wilgrove
29-05-2007, 07:19
Valhalla. We will feast, drink, and fight until the world ends.

Isn't Valhalla reserved for those who died in combat/battles/war? Doesn't the rest of us get "Hel" (calm peaceful place)?
Myu in the Middle
29-05-2007, 07:24
My afterlife is something that happens without me, so I'm not too fussed about the specifics, but I hope it'll be good for those it impacts.
Muravyets
29-05-2007, 07:27
My afterlife is something that happens without me, so I'm not too fussed about the specifics, but I hope it'll be good for those it impacts.

That's not your afterlife. That's their afterlife, i.e. life after you.
Myu in the Middle
29-05-2007, 07:29
That's not your afterlife. That's their afterlife, i.e. life after you.
Hey, it might be all there is but it's just as, if not considerably more, important than what happens to me.
Trollgaard
29-05-2007, 07:44
Isn't Valhalla reserved for those who died in combat/battles/war? Doesn't the rest of us get "Hel" (calm peaceful place)?

Yes.
Fachistos
29-05-2007, 07:47
What do you guys think the next life (if you believe there is one) will be like?

I believe that depend on what you do in this life determines what happens in the next, If you're a good person who helped your fellow human being and lived a good life, you are rewarded and vice versa. However, I also think that if we have free will in this life, then why wouldn't we have it in the next? Simply put, the next life is probably as complex as this one is.


Yeah, well there's no such thing as an afterlife. Also, should there be an afterlife after all - life's not fair, the fortunes are not dependent on behaviour.
Wilgrove
29-05-2007, 07:55
Yes.

Of course we can't forget Hifhel which in Asatru religion is a place of torment.

I've noticed from another thread that you follow Asatru, tell me, what is the difference between Asatru and Odinism?
Muravyets
29-05-2007, 08:03
Hey, it might be all there is but it's just as, if not considerably more, important than what happens to me.

Oh, I'd hazard that it is infinitely more important than what happens to you once you're dead. More important to them (your survivors), that is.

But then, call me cynical, but I would guess that what happens to them is already infinitely more important to them than what happens to you, even though you're still alive.

;)

It's like what I said to a boss I used to have during a staff meeting once. He was telling us all a long story about how he got stabbed during a bar fight years ago, but I wasn't paying attention because I was obsessing over a papercut I'd just gotten, and I wondered aloud whether it was getting infected. He commented on the insulting irony of this, and I said the following words to him:

"Hey. That was then, this is now. That was you, this is me. What do you think I care more about?"
Kyronea
29-05-2007, 08:18
It actually has a +90% rotten tomato rating, so I wouldn't quite count it as bad, per se. Just, not as good as it could have been, but that's basically what one can say about most things by Al Brooks.

That movie was fun when I first watched, but sadly it lost a lot of enjoyment when I realized the premise was based on that old urban myth about brain usage. While it is true we only use about 10% of our brains, the myth leaves out the fact that this is at any one second, while the 90% unused at that second rests. We do utilize the full extent of our brains on the whole, just not all at once in any one particular second.
Myu in the Middle
29-05-2007, 08:39
Oh, I'd hazard that it is infinitely more important than what happens to you once you're dead. More important to them (your survivors), that is.

But then, call me cynical, but I would guess that what happens to them is already infinitely more important to them than what happens to you, even though you're still alive.

;)

It's like what I said to a boss I used to have during a staff meeting once. He was telling us all a long story about how he got stabbed during a bar fight years ago, but I wasn't paying attention because I was obsessing over a papercut I'd just gotten, and I wondered aloud whether it was getting infected. He commented on the insulting irony of this, and I said the following words to him:

"Hey. That was then, this is now. That was you, this is me. What do you think I care more about?"
0_o

Okay, now you've confused me. Are you saying that the other should always be more important anyway, or that I'm just not important?

:(
Ollonen
29-05-2007, 14:59
What do you guys think the next life (if you believe there is one) will be like?

I believe that depend on what you do in this life determines what happens in the next, If you're a good person who helped your fellow human being and lived a good life, you are rewarded and vice versa. However, I also think that if we have free will in this life, then why wouldn't we have it in the next? Simply put, the next life is probably as complex as this one is.

Nothing. When I die, dies my mind, my ability to feel or think and my memories.
Telesha
29-05-2007, 15:05
We wake up.
Ifreann
29-05-2007, 15:11
Beer volcano and stripper factory.
Compulsive Depression
29-05-2007, 16:13
I have absolutely no idea whether there's an afterlife or not, and, if there is, what it would be like.

I also have no idea how one would go about discovering either of these things without dying.

That is to say, +1 to my post count; information content of the forum unchanged.
Risottia
29-05-2007, 16:18
What do you guys think the next life (if you believe there is one) will be like?

There is no afterlife. But I could use an après vie.
Szanth
29-05-2007, 16:21
The world is all a vast construct of my own creation and imagination. Once I die, one of two things will happen:

1. I will be reborn, as the death will have been of just the character my mind had created for me to exist inside,

or 2. The universe will collapse in on itself and cease to exist.



You guys better hope I last a while. ^^
Northern Borders
29-05-2007, 17:03
I believe it just ends. Your mind, your conscience, it all ends. Eternal sleep.

There are some people here who have a quite interesting idea about the afterlife. They think that after you die, your soul go to heaven and there you receive all the knowledge about your past lives and is fully aware of all your soul has ever done. Then you may spend some time there talking to other souls or deciding what to do next.

And then if you want to, you may decide to go back to earth and live any life you want. Like living like a blond model in Finland, or next time living like a black enterprenuer in Africa. Its like you chose a character every time you went back to earth, but with the same soul, and when you died all these knowledge about all your lives could be explored when you went to heaven.

Doesnt explain why people would choose to be born as poor, sick and retarted indidivuals through...
Ifreann
29-05-2007, 17:05
Also, appropriate youtube stuffs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VynIBnVeByU)
German Nightmare
29-05-2007, 17:56
I'll become one with the Force. *nods*

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/OneWithTheForce.jpg
Myu in the Middle
29-05-2007, 18:11
The world is all a vast construct of my own creation and imagination. Once I die, one of two things will happen:

1. I will be reborn, as the death will have been of just the character my mind had created for me to exist inside,

or 2. The universe will collapse in on itself and cease to exist.



You guys better hope I last a while. ^^
Oh, don't worry. As I am, logically, a part of your conscious mind, as long as I'm around, it's okay.
Szanth
29-05-2007, 18:26
Oh, don't worry. As I am, logically, a part of your conscious mind, as long as I'm around, it's okay.

Yes but you never know when my mind will decide that flying devilfish and land krakens are more entertaining than bunnies. =)
Utracia
29-05-2007, 18:30
After death we will all be sucked into Buffy the Vampire Slayer reruns. Or something.
Szanth
29-05-2007, 18:34
After death we will all be sucked into Buffy the Vampire Slayer reruns. Or something.

Raptor Christ, no...
German Nightmare
29-05-2007, 19:58
After death we will all be sucked into Buffy the Vampire Slayer reruns. Or something.
That I'd actually enjoy.
Raptor Christ, no...
Buh?
Szanth
29-05-2007, 20:07
That I'd actually enjoy.

Buh?

The camp... THE CAMP... *shudders*
The Brevious
30-05-2007, 07:16
What do you guys think the next life (if you believe there is one) will be like?

I believe that depend on what you do in this life determines what happens in the next, If you're a good person who helped your fellow human being and lived a good life, you are rewarded and vice versa. However, I also think that if we have free will in this life, then why wouldn't we have it in the next? Simply put, the next life is probably as complex as this one is.

Perhaps i'll get to hang around my corpse a lot, watching the bugs get their fill and do all the farting and decomposing. When i'm not doing that, perhaps i'll get to haunt the lot where they dump me, and when someone's feeling sad (like at a funeral or visiting a mausoleum), i'll do my best to tickle them until they pee themselves.
The Brevious
30-05-2007, 07:17
Raptor Christ, no...

Christ visits Isla Sorna and rapes a dinosaur with intent of some kind of nephilim-like saviour-saur?
Ah - that would explain those footprints in that Texas riverbed.
As would David Icke's book about the lizard overlords.
New Muravyetsia
31-05-2007, 04:41
0_o

Okay, now you've confused me. Are you saying that the other should always be more important anyway, or that I'm just not important?

:(
Haha, sorry. I meant that people are generally more interested in themselves than they are in other people, even people they like.

By way of illustration, note how I jump right back into our conversation without bothering to account for my new name/nation (what happened to Muravyets is a mystery (to me) at the moment). I'm so concerned with my own confusion, I never bothered about yours. ;)
Trollgaard
31-05-2007, 06:22
Of course we can't forget Hifhel which in Asatru religion is a place of torment.

I've noticed from another thread that you follow Asatru, tell me, what is the difference between Asatru and Odinism?

From what I know Odinism focused almost exclusively on Odin; almost to the point of monothiesm. Odinism was also formed before the modern incarnation of Asatru, so when Asatru was re-released, you could say, most followers of Odinism converted to Asatru.
The Brevious
31-05-2007, 07:07
Haha, sorry. I meant that people are generally more interested in themselves than they are in other people, even people they like.Speaking of which, you should TG me.
*nods*
Wilgrove
31-05-2007, 07:10
From what I know Odinism focused almost exclusively on Odin; almost to the point of monothiesm. Odinism was also formed before the modern incarnation of Asatru, so when Asatru was re-released, you could say, most followers of Odinism converted to Asatru.

Hmm neat. :)