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Apparantly, Ahmadinejad never said anything about wiping Israel off the map.

Ahmadinejad hates the Israeli regime not because of teh j00z, but because it represents the most tangible Western encroachment into Muslim lands.

If Iran wants Israel back in Palestinian hands, why would they destroy it?

If all of this is true, are these misconceptions the seeds of false justification for an Iranian invasion?

Perhaps someone can set straight my admittedly ill/misinformed understanding of Middle Eastern politics.

Interesting article. (http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025)
Anyone care to verify/dismantle?

EDIT: More sources:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKL1950523920070519?feedType=RSS
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2006/06/post_155.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm

Apparantly, Ahmadinejad never said anything about wiping Israel off the map.

Ahmadinejad hates the Israeli regime not because of teh j00z, but because it represents the most tangible Western encroachment into Muslim lands.

If Iran wants Israel back in Palestinian hands, why would they destroy it?

If all of this is true, are these misconceptions the seeds of false justification for an Iranian invasion?

Perhaps someone can set straight my admittedly ill/misinformed understanding of Middle Eastern politics.

Interesting article. (http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025)
Anyone care to verify/dismantle?


Well Nukes are one thing...but nOOks..now thats a different story

Well Nukes are one thing...but nOOks..now thats a different story

Sorry, I thought this was the internets.
/Find and replace: "n00k(v.)"; "bombard with nuclear warheads"

Sorry, I thought this was the internets.
/Find and replace: "n00k(v.)"; "bombard with nuclear warheads"

This isn't the internet...this is a series of tubes

Its good that the important distinction in words has been pointed out, but I doubt that many people will read it. Even if Amidenijad is interested in a referendum as he said, there are many unfortunately, who are not.

This isn't the internet...this is a series of tubes

Fair enough.
But parallel would be more efficient.

WTF are n00ks? and what about these "j00z"?

and what about these "j00z"?

Yeah how about those j00z aye!

WTF are n00ks? and what about these "j00z"?

See post #3.

And "j00z" is a bastardized spelling of "juice," which is a reference to the blood of Christ, which is drunk as a part of the ritual of vampires and "Jew For Jesus".

And what is this strange, indeciferable collection of symbols you sp34k of: "WTF"?
I am in no way being facetious.

Oh, and what is this, a hazing?
Or is this the normal response to a question about politics?

Rejoice and opine, for lo, I hath begat a poll.

I begat once... didn't like it..

Iran will not n00k Israel

And Bush won't become the first emperor of America. But he'd like to.

(Ahmadinejad there would n00k as in destroy, not as in use thermonuclear weapons.)

See post #3.

And "j00z" is a bastardized spelling of "juice," which is a reference to the blood of Christ, which is drunk as a part of the ritual of vampires and "Jew For Jesus".

And what is this strange, indeciferable collection of symbols you sp34k of: "WTF"?
I am in no way being facetious.

This n00b is clever. I like him/her.

Oh, and what is this, a hazing?
Or is this the normal response to a question about politics?

It's nothing personal.
We get bored, and when a post comes along with word like nOOk in its title, it takes a few posts before we get serious, because if we're going to talk about a serious subject we like a little light hearted humor before or after everyone else comes to begin a war of words over the topic at hand...and when that happens...well...shit happens...

This n00b is clever. I like him/her.

Indeed, I love him/her :fluffle:

It's nothing personal.
We get bored, and when a post comes along with word like nOOk in its title, it takes a few posts before we get serious, because if we're going to talk about a serious subject we like a little light hearted humor before or after everyone else comes to begin a war of words over the topic at hand...and when that happens...well...shit happens...

Speak for yourself. I never take it seriously. Seriously.

Speak for yourself. I never take it seriously. Seriously.

I was, I have multiple personalities...But many people here do seem to take things farther and more personally than need be

Apparantly, Ahmadinejad never said anything about wiping Israel off the map.

Ahmadinejad hates the Israeli regime not because of teh j00z, but because it represents the most tangible Western encroachment into Muslim lands.

If Iran wants Israel back in Palestinian hands, why would they destroy it?

If all of this is true, are these misconceptions the seeds of false justification for an Iranian invasion?

Perhaps someone can set straight my admittedly ill/misinformed understanding of Middle Eastern politics.

Interesting article. (http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025)
Anyone care to verify/dismantle?

Can we get a source on this besides an anti-war site?

Can we get a source on this besides an anti-war site?

The best I could do:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKL1950523920070519?feedType=RSS
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2006/06/post_155.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm

I think Iran is very reliable and trust them to not attack Israel because of Judaism. That whole Holocaust denial wankfest a bit back was just a joke. Ahmadinejad loves the j00z!

Can we get a source on this besides an anti-war site?

I checked the Iranian president's personal website and I found this speech:

Ahmadinejad: Supporters of Israel will face wrath of Islamic ummah

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned countries or leaders who have taken measures to acknowledge the Zionist regime under pressure or due to lack of sound understanding that they will be confronted with the wrath of the Islamic ummah and will forever be disgraced. Speaking at a conference dubbed "World without Zionism" here Wednesday which was attended by thousands of students, he said any country which acknowledges the Zionist regime will actually be acknowledging the surrender and defeat of the Islamic world. He further expressed his firm belief that the new wave of confrontations generated in Palestine and the growing turmoil in the Islamic world would in no time wipe Israel away. Ahmadinejad referred to the Zionist regime's recent withdrawal from the Gaza Strip as a "trick," saying Gaza is part of Palestinian territory and the withdrawal was meant to make Islamic states acknowledge the Zionist regime of Israel. Pointing to the evil attempts of the US and Israel to saw discord among warring forces in Palestine and other parts of the Islamic world, the president said such attempts were aimed at forcing some Islamic countries to acknowledge the existence of Israel.

President of Iran (http://www.president.ir/eng/ahmadinejad/cronicnews/1384/08/4/index-e.htm#b3)

See post #3.

And "j00z" is a bastardized spelling of "juice," which is a reference to the blood of Christ, which is drunk as a part of the ritual of vampires and "Jew For Jesus".

And what is this strange, indeciferable collection of symbols you sp34k of: "WTF"?
I am in no way being facetious.

Well, maybe I should let you know that most of us here don't understand leet.

The best I could do:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKL1950523920070519?feedType=RSS
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2006/06/post_155.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm

I checked the Iranian president's personal website and I found this speech:



President of Iran (http://www.president.ir/eng/ahmadinejad/cronicnews/1384/08/4/index-e.htm#b3)

Thank you.

You see if Iran nukes Isreal you see Isreal will kick th s**t of Iran as will most of the western worlad like the USA, britain and possibly France. Maybe even China but I'm positive the USA will not stand for it... especially Bush.

He will go :mp5: (trigger happy)

Apparantly, Ahmadinejad never said anything about wiping Israel off the map.

Ahmadinejad hates the Israeli regime not because of teh j00z, but because it represents the most tangible Western encroachment into Muslim lands.

If Iran wants Israel back in Palestinian hands, why would they destroy it?

If all of this is true, are these misconceptions the seeds of false justification for an Iranian invasion?

Perhaps someone can set straight my admittedly ill/misinformed understanding of Middle Eastern politics.

Interesting article. (http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025)
Anyone care to verify/dismantle?

EDIT: More sources:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKL1950523920070519?feedType=RSS
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2006/06/post_155.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm

yes well, most people who think realistically knew that Iran wasn't stupid enough to nuke (or n00k if you prefer :p) one of the U.S's biggest allies...

Ahmadinejad hates the Israeli regime not because of teh j00z, but because it represents the most tangible Western encroachment into Muslim lands.

n00ks=nukes :mad:
j00zs=Jews and saying j00zss is a little offensive. :upyours:

See post #3.

And "j00z" is a bastardized spelling of "juice," which is a reference to the blood of Christ, which is drunk as a part of the ritual of vampires and "Jew For Jesus".

And what is this strange, indeciferable collection of symbols you sp34k of: "WTF"?
I am in no way being facetious.

lolz

I like this person. They have a good grasp of English, they're intelligent and, as if to top it off, they have a sense of humour.

Apparantly, Ahmadinejad never said anything about wiping Israel off the map.

Ahmadinejad hates the Israeli regime not because of teh j00z, but because it represents the most tangible Western encroachment into Muslim lands.

If Iran wants Israel back in Palestinian hands, why would they destroy it?

If all of this is true, are these misconceptions the seeds of false justification for an Iranian invasion?

Perhaps someone can set straight my admittedly ill/misinformed understanding of Middle Eastern politics.

Interesting article. (http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025)
Anyone care to verify/dismantle?

EDIT: More sources:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKL1950523920070519?feedType=RSS
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2006/06/post_155.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm

Hmm. Interesting, thank you for clearing-that-up. Without you, I still might be misguided.
However, would it bother you if Israel said this about Iran? NOT the "off-the-map" quote, but the literal one. Would it bother you, yes or no?

Oh, and what is this, a hazing?
Or is this the normal response to a question about politics?

No, this is the typical response to n00bspeak.

No, this is the typical response to n00bspeak.

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WTF...?? :eek: :eek: *head explodes*

Can we get a source on this besides an anti-war site?

http://democracyrising.us/content/view/736/164/

So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in farsi:

"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "Regime", pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).

So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh", is not contained anywhere in his original farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's President threatened to "wipe Israel off the map", despite never having uttered the words "map", "wipe out" or even "Israel."

THE PROOF:

The full quote translated directly to English:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."

Word by word translation:

Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
the article translation corresponds with the limited Farsi I know

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