New T.V. shows.
I came across this little gem in IMDB...
Spaceballs: The Animated Series. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0870980/)
and I remember seeing trailers for this remake.
The Bionic Woman (http://imdb.com/title/tt0880557/)
and a reality tv survivalesque Pirates show...
so, what new and up coming shows are invading your airwaves...
and are you afraid, or looking forward to their airing.
Ashmoria
26-05-2007, 22:54
most of them look pretty stupid.
ill give "little bush" a try because i cant get enough of mocking the president but i dont really expect it to be worth watching
the caveman show seems pointless
i didnt watch the bionic woman the first time around so i dont see me liking it the second time around
its going to be a dismal summer and a worse fall.
Cannot think of a name
26-05-2007, 22:55
America is getting Creature Comforts, which I only recently found out was more than just that first short.
Pretty happy about that.
I'm still holding out on that Cavemen thing, but the clip disheartened me a bit. It's not the same actors and the make up seems worse, but it will of course all be in the writing. It has a chance to be a source of social criticism on matters of race, or just a bunch of lame ass jokes strung together.
New Manvir
26-05-2007, 23:04
I came across this little gem in IMDB...
Spaceballs: The Animated Series. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0870980/)
and I remember seeing trailers for this remake.
The Bionic Woman (http://imdb.com/title/tt0880557/)
and a reality tv survivalesque Pirates show...
so, what new and up coming shows are invading your airwaves...
and are you afraid, or looking forward to their airing.
my cousin told me there's a new Star Wars cartoon coming out too....
most of them look pretty stupid.
ill give "little bush" a try because i cant get enough of mocking the president but i dont really expect it to be worth watching
the caveman show seems pointless
i didnt watch the bionic woman the first time around so i dont see me liking it the second time around
its going to be a dismal summer and a worse fall.Little Bush? never heard of that one.
The_pantless_hero
26-05-2007, 23:06
and a reality tv survivalesque Pirates show...
That's the first thing I thought too, then I thought about it more and realized it's only going to be interesting for the first half of the first season then everyone is going to realize it's just a replacement for Survivor.
Cannot think of a name
26-05-2007, 23:06
Little Bush? never heard of that one.
Bush as a 3rd grader. Doesn't really seem promising, but I'll give it a whirl...mostly because Comedy Central recycles its programing so much that it's hard to avoid sometimes.
Ashmoria
26-05-2007, 23:12
Bush as a 3rd grader. Doesn't really seem promising, but I'll give it a whirl...mostly because Comedy Central recycles its programing so much that it's hard to avoid sometimes.
its going to have to get me from the first episode and its going to have to be viscious. no holding back so as not to offend those who kinda like bush.
if it doesnt do that, i dont see the point.
creature comforts is going to be an american version. so, its going to have to get me on the first show too.
Cannot think of a name
26-05-2007, 23:16
its going to have to get me from the first episode and its going to have to be viscious. no holding back so as not to offend those who kinda like bush.
if it doesnt do that, i dont see the point.
creature comforts is going to be an american version. so, its going to have to get me on the first show too.
On the IMDb page for Nick Park it doesn't seem to list him even as a Executive Producer, but the page for the show is under development...so, a little worried. If Nick Park is involved, it's all good. Without him, I'm a little cautious.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
26-05-2007, 23:52
There's lots of good stuff that's been on t.v. recently, some people here might be fans of:
Mythbusters: They experiment with funny folk wisdom and odd stories - Neat!
South Park: Funny Cartoon
"Hippies" History Channel Documentary: Breaks down the popular image - hippies weren't anything interesting or new.
The Iron Chef: Hilarious Japanese food show contest. Too weird to explain. :D
The_pantless_hero
26-05-2007, 23:57
South Park is trying but it's falling victim to Simpsonitis - cartoon comedy show that has been on too long and is running out of stuff to parody.
Iron Chef? Welcome to 8 years ago.
Robin Hood is better, you just have to have BBCA which is uncool. But the DVD comes out next month which I would recommend getting.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
27-05-2007, 00:02
South Park is trying but it's falling victim to Simpsonitis - cartoon comedy show that has been on too long and is running out of stuff to parody.
Iron Chef? Welcome to 8 years ago.
Robin Hood is better, you just have to have BBCA which is uncool. But the DVD comes out next month which I would recommend getting.
Ah, sorry. I thought Iron Chef was recent.
Also, I saw 15 minutes of Robin Hood and didn't like it - but it seems like I was too hasty. I'll have to give that one another shot! :)
Spaceballs: The Animated Series? Well, the movie was okay...I watched it the other night for the second time(the first time being when I think I was three, so I barely remembered anything.) It was funny, but it harped a hell of a lot too much during it about it being a movie, which was a joke that didn't need to be overused. If it had just been the part where Dark Helmet uses the movie to find Lone Starr and the gang, that'd have been okay, but then they just went on and on...and then there was the marketing stuff...Robin Hood: Men in Tights was a much better comedy film.
Anyway, it'll probably be worth a look at least. Mel Brooks is always a funny guy. How can you not like a funny Jew? :D
Proggresica
27-05-2007, 00:27
There is a NBC remake (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487831/) of a BBC comedy called The IT Crowd (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487831/) which was funny at times. Luckily, the guy who saves the show, Richard Ayoade, (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1547964/) will be in it.
Spaceballs: The Animated Series? Well, the movie was okay...I watched it the other night for the second time(the first time being when I think I was three, so I barely remembered anything.) It was funny, but it harped a hell of a lot too much during it about it being a movie, which was a joke that didn't need to be overused. If it had just been the part where Dark Helmet uses the movie to find Lone Starr and the gang, that'd have been okay, but then they just went on and on...and then there was the marketing stuff...Robin Hood: Men in Tights was a much better comedy film.
Anyway, it'll probably be worth a look at least. Mel Brooks is always a funny guy. How can you not like a funny Jew? :D
on my day off, I watch "Jenkers: the Adventures of Piggly Winks" and Mel's the voice of one of the sheep. his moments (usually seperate from the rest of the story) tends to be better than the main story.
Troglobites
27-05-2007, 00:48
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That%27s_My_Bush
It's been done already... then cancelled... probably going to be cancelled again.
Cannot think of a name
27-05-2007, 01:26
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That%27s_My_Bush
It's been done already... then cancelled... probably going to be cancelled again.
It was canceled right after 9/11 because at the time making fun of the president suddenly didn't seem as funny. And Li'l Bush isn't Bush in office, as was That's My Bush, but rather Bush in the third grade. But That's My Bush suffered more from bad timing than anything else.
Not that I thought it was any good, but that's just me.
Proggresica
27-05-2007, 01:38
It was canceled right after 9/11 because at the time making fun of the president suddenly didn't seem as funny. And Li'l Bush isn't Bush in office, as was That's My Bush, but rather Bush in the third grade. But That's My Bush suffered more from bad timing than anything else.
Not that I thought it was any good, but that's just me.
I thought (and Wikipedi too, it seems) it got cancelled because of cost-cutting measures. It does sound better to blame it on 9/11 but, doesn't it?
Cannot think of a name
27-05-2007, 02:39
I thought (and Wikipedi too, it seems) it got cancelled because of cost-cutting measures. It does sound better to blame it on 9/11 but, doesn't it?
I guess you could take the timing as a coincidence...that they where still airing episodes in August, but not in September...
For the show Pirate Master I hope they're forced to kill and kidnap people, or do entire days worth of manual labor while developing diseases due to a lack of nutrition. With gay sex as well.
Proggresica
27-05-2007, 02:50
I guess you could take the timing as a coincidence...that they where still airing episodes in August, but not in September...
Not the original eight: they stopped making the episodes months before 9/11.
Cannot think of a name
27-05-2007, 02:55
Not the original eight: they stopped making the episodes months before 9/11.
As I mentioned earlier, Comedy Central repeats the hell out of its programming. While the eight had originally aired before 9/11, they were still being reran up until mid-September. I was watching a great deal of Comedy Central at the time.
The_pantless_hero
27-05-2007, 03:15
I think "Thank God You're Here" has potential.
OuroborosCobra
27-05-2007, 03:43
Mel Brooks is still alive?
Cannot think of a name
27-05-2007, 03:59
I think "Thank God You're Here" has potential.
It breaks a core rule of improv, the 'Yes, and...,' that you don't contridict what the actor says but add to it. But the cast that greets the 'main' actor has a set 'script' of things they need to do in the sketch and will contradict the main actor to force it down the pre-conceived channel. So it then becomes little more than a rough SNL sketch where one of the cast members has not attended rehearsal. That set up is disappointing.
Troglobites
27-05-2007, 04:07
I think "Thank God You're Here" has potential.
When I saw the first episode I told myself if "chunky girl" (cannot think of her name and yes it is self proclaimed) I would not watch it again, because I felt a couple of actors (cannot think of their name either) handled themselves better. She relied entirely on fat jokes and nothing else. So, low a behold she won and the rest is history to me.
For the show Pirate Master I hope they're forced to kill and kidnap people, or do entire days worth of manual labor while developing diseases due to a lack of nutrition. With gay sex as well.well, they do have some women on board so...
Mel Brooks is still alive? yep.
It breaks a core rule of improv, the 'Yes, and...,' that you don't contridict what the actor says but add to it. But the cast that greets the 'main' actor has a set 'script' of things they need to do in the sketch and will contradict the main actor to force it down the pre-conceived channel. So it then becomes little more than a rough SNL sketch where one of the cast members has not attended rehearsal. That set up is disappointing.
that's what I also found wrong with it.
Seangoli
27-05-2007, 08:15
It breaks a core rule of improv, the 'Yes, and...,' that you don't contridict what the actor says but add to it. But the cast that greets the 'main' actor has a set 'script' of things they need to do in the sketch and will contradict the main actor to force it down the pre-conceived channel. So it then becomes little more than a rough SNL sketch where one of the cast members has not attended rehearsal. That set up is disappointing.
You know, I never heard of it till now, so I youtubed it. The show is god-awful, only saved by the actors amazing ability to be fairly funny while being dragged through the dirt.
Wilgrove
27-05-2007, 08:38
It was canceled right after 9/11 because at the time making fun of the president suddenly didn't seem as funny. And Li'l Bush isn't Bush in office, as was That's My Bush, but rather Bush in the third grade. But That's My Bush suffered more from bad timing than anything else.
Not that I thought it was any good, but that's just me.
It actually got canceled because it didn't seem as funny anymore when you couldn't tell the difference between the actor who plays Bush and the real Bush.
Dryks Legacy
27-05-2007, 11:13
its going to have to get me from the first episode and its going to have to be viscious. no holding back so as not to offend those who kinda like bush.
if it doesnt do that, i dont see the point.
creature comforts is going to be an american version. so, its going to have to get me on the first show too.
There is a NBC remake (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487831/) of a BBC comedy called The IT Crowd (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487831/) which was funny at times. Luckily, the guy who saves the show, Richard Ayoade, (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1547964/) will be in it.
I think "Thank God You're Here" has potential.
It's forgivable in Thank God You're Here's case but still... Why does America feel the need to remake perfectly good shows instead of just showing the damn originals!!!! Seriously WTF? Stop f***ing up perfectly good shows
It's forgivable in Thank God You're Here's case but still... Why does America feel the need to remake perfectly good shows instead of just showing the damn originals!!!! Seriously WTF? Stop f***ing up perfectly good shows
America: Eagerly working to piss off Australians for over 200 years.
The_pantless_hero
27-05-2007, 13:14
It's forgivable in Thank God You're Here's case but still... Why does America feel the need to remake perfectly good shows instead of just showing the damn originals!!!! Seriously WTF? Stop f***ing up perfectly good shows
Because the originals use foreign comedy which is not the same as American comedy. British Whose Line Is It Anyway is probably pretty damn funny in Britain, but over here it's pretty lame (well, some of the Brits suck at improv), which is why they made their own. No one is going to get the British references, British slang, or British jokes.
Dryks Legacy
27-05-2007, 14:15
Because the originals use foreign comedy which is not the same as American comedy. British Whose Line Is It Anyway is probably pretty damn funny in Britain, but over here it's pretty lame (well, some of the Brits suck at improv), which is why they made their own. No one is going to get the British references, British slang, or British jokes.
Whenever you "translate" a show, it loses its funniness. Are there any other English speaking countries in the world that don't understand English outside their own variant or is it just you guys? Because we can understand you guys and it makes life so much easier, we can watch your television without messing with it.
The_pantless_hero
27-05-2007, 14:56
Whenever you "translate" a show, it loses its funniness. Are there any other English speaking countries in the world that don't understand English outside their own variant or is it just you guys? Because we can understand you guys and it makes life so much easier, we can watch your television without messing with it.
Because American comedy is very basic. The only real references used are to such things as to what the president is doing, and everyone is privy to that. You don't watch baseball in Australia, we don't watch cricket in the US and soccer is still mostly a shadow sport. We don't get all the "comedy" shows where a quarter of the jokes have some reference to cricket. Not to mention the dry British comedy. If the show wasn't translated, it would be even less funny.
Ashmoria
27-05-2007, 15:52
Robin Hood is better, you just have to have BBCA which is uncool. But the DVD comes out next month which I would recommend getting.
the first season finale was on bbca last night.
i was thinking of making a "if you were maid marian would you choose guy or robin?" thread but didnt know if there were enough watchers to make it fly.
no one should buy the dvd before watching at least one episode. its too AU to expect a robinhood fan to enjoy it automatically.
The_pantless_hero
27-05-2007, 16:00
The problem is catching an episode from such an obscure channel.
Ashmoria
27-05-2007, 16:31
The problem is catching an episode from such an obscure channel.
yeah it is. its too bad that the good shows arent put on the more common US channels.
then bbca can be the "all cash in the attic" channel
Cannot think of a name
27-05-2007, 16:54
Because American comedy is very basic. The only real references used are to such things as to what the president is doing, and everyone is privy to that. You don't watch baseball in Australia, we don't watch cricket in the US and soccer is still mostly a shadow sport. We don't get all the "comedy" shows where a quarter of the jokes have some reference to cricket. Not to mention the dry British comedy. If the show wasn't translated, it would be even less funny.
Speak for yourself, dude. I watched a whole lot of the British Who's Line is It, Anyway? and found it hilarious. Often it involved the same guys (Ryan Stiles, etc.). There was nothing wrong with me understanding the British The Office. There are plenty of channels, thanks to cable, that broadcast British shows (Sorry Australia, Neighbors never stuck...) and they have varying degrees of success. In certain cases, such as Dr. Who, we've shown that we just prefer the British version.
We do television differently, and sometimes we do our versions to either extend (the British The Office only goes two short by American standards seasons) the show or to fit our season structure, or simply for an American production to be able to make it's own. And yeah, they become more locally relevant, sure it's a part of it. But really, if that where all of it or even the most relevant it wouldn't really justify the cost of attempting a production. It would have been FAR cheaper to just show Coupling on NBC instead of paying for the failure of the American version. (without aping the aesthetic, it's just a Friends clone which becomes extra uncomfortable when it follows Friends...bah...)
It's not an American phenomenon, there are something like seven Ugly Bettys.
But to say that Americans are too dim to follow foreign references while we export a ton of our television...smacks somewhere between an American Yakov Smernov ("My country men are so stupid, they can't understand anything not made by them! What a country!") and that self satisfied but always ridiculous sounding "Why is everyone stupid but me?"
I V Stalin
27-05-2007, 17:33
its going to be a dismal summer and a worse fall.
Yeah, but Lost returns next February. That's something to look forward to.
Robin Hood is better, you just have to have BBCA which is uncool. But the DVD comes out next month which I would recommend getting.
Robin Hood? The new(ish) BBC series? That was shockingly bad. One simple way of improving it would have been to hire George Lucas to write the dialogue...and hiring actors who hadn't apparently taken lessons from Keanu Reeves.
There is a NBC remake (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487831/) of a BBC comedy called The IT Crowd (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487831/) which was funny at times. Luckily, the guy who saves the show, Richard Ayoade, (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1547964/) will be in it.
Meh, didn't really like the IT Crowd. Firstly, the title is an awful, awful pun which they then ram home by making the two central characters complete social incompetents (in the best tradition of the IT tech stereotype :rolleyes:). There were some good bits (Noel Fielding's part in one of the episodes was amusing), but it never really seemed to have much of a focus.
It's forgivable in Thank God You're Here's case but still... Why does America feel the need to remake perfectly good shows instead of just showing the damn originals!!!! Seriously WTF? Stop f***ing up perfectly good shows
The best example I can think of where the American remake completely missed the point of the original is Red Dwarf. Making Lister (last man in the universe) someone who isn't basically something akin to gum that's been stuck on the bottom of your shoe for a week kinda made it not-at-all-surprising that it failed after the pilot.