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I agree with Fox. No matter how great your singing is, you're still fat.

If you sing, and you're fat, you're just as bad as a drug dealer!

FOX pundits, it's a douchebag convention.
And do you notice how the lady arguing against her for being "obese" appears to have anorexia problems and the opponent sounds gay.

No Kate Smith? No Ethel Merman? No Ann Wilson? :(

She's got a point. A fat American Idol would only encourage little kids to eat more so they can become pop stars. In fact, she's not going far enough. All of our celebrities should be perfectly healthy. If they've got heart problems or diabetes, or they've had cancer or something they should be ridiculed and taken out of the limelight so kids won't go out and get sick to immitate them.

What a fucking **** that blonde bitch is.

And that girl doesn't look at all overweight (well, by US standards at least). What the fuck is she on about?

Just to think how many douchebags wouldn't have jobs if FOX pundits stopped consulting them...

Who cares?

Wow...just wow. This represents everything I hate...

Buh? That girl doesn't even look fat. :confused:

She's not a stick thin size zero. I wasn't aware that that was something bad now.

If you sing, and you're fat, you're just as bad as a drug dealer!

No more operasinging ?

If we ban fat singers, how will we know when 'its over'?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svxLdNsxPSw

I agree with Fox. No matter how great your singing is, you're still fat.

If you sing, and you're fat, you're just as bad as a drug dealer!
Then tell me, Ruffy - how are things ever gonna end if the fat lady can't sing, huh?!?

http://www.zenwaiter.com/photos/indexnew/fat%20lady%20sings.jpg

And agreeing with Fox will give you bad breath instantly - so beware. ;)

If we ban fat singers, how will we know when 'its over'?
w00t!

Hahahahahaha! Good timing!!!

If we ban fat singers, how will we know when 'its over'?

Then tell me, Ruffy - how are things ever gonna end if the fat lady can't sing, huh?!?

http://www.zenwaiter.com/photos/indexnew/fat%20lady%20sings.jpg

"This is the song that never ends.. Yes it goes on and on my friends!"
And agreeing with Fox will give you bad breath instantly - so beware. ;)

Actually, I was just about to brush my teeth..

Buh? That girl doesn't even look fat. :confused:

She's not a stick thin size zero. I wasn't aware that that was something bad now.
When you think everyone should be anorexic like you, they all look huge.

The singer ain't that fat. Heck, if anything I say the blonde chick needs to eat a damn sandwich.

Most of the people watching this program are obese.

I died at that one. :eek::D

And she really isn't obese. Overweight? Maybe, I dunno BMI that well. Obese? Christ no.

Being fat is an advantage when singing since the fat around the vocal cords results in cleaner sound. That is why there are so many fat singers, specially in opera that is a real challange for the voice.

If anything should be banned it is thin models because it is so not sexy when you can see the ribs or other bones. A healthy average weight or as some would say "plump" is more attractive then starvation victims.

But they should like Jordin: http://www.tvgasm.com/newsgasm/news/american-idol/american-idol-rocked-by-jordin.php

Jordin's never been shy about her Christian faith. She recorded a CD with "Jesus music" pioneer Matthew Ward, toured with Christian singer Michael W. Smith, placed second in 2004 at the Gospel Music Association's Music in the Rockies national competition for aspiring Contemporary Christian Music artists (the same one that Chris Sligh competed in two years earlier). And the GMA says it recognizes Jordin and fellow finalist Melinda Doolittle as Christian artists who are "keeping the faith."

Not that there's anything wrong with a big organized Christian Idol voting bloc (remember those phone centers in India?), but the controversy gets down to politics, in the form of abortion.

Though she's only seventeen and probably won't have to think seriously about the issue until she goes on the Idol tour and finds out she's been knocked up by Sanjaya, Jordan is well-known in her home state of Arizona and among the Christian crowd as a "pro-life"-- or anti-abortion-- crusader.

And until recently, she apparently had this picture on her MySpace page:
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Photos of Jordin at anti-abortion events and stories about her activism have been on line for months, but only reaching mainstream attention now that she has the best chance of taking the American Idol title.
The stir that's brewing is similar to last year's storm over contestant Mandisa and her connection to the "ex-gay" movement. And with some expressing concern that Jordin will use her American Idol platform to preach against abortion, this sort of fight is one that will bring out votes on both sides.


*has been wiki-ing*

her? fat?


where was this woman when Rubbin Studdard won?

her? fat?


where was this woman when Rubbin Studdard won?

Probably bitching like she is now, just no one put a microphone in front of her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svxLdNsxPSw
The guy from Newsweek raised his eyebrows when he was being introduced. I hate it when people do that, and therefore everything he said is automatically wrong.
Based upon this, I agree with Ruffy and that skinny chick, Jordin ought to be tagged and released like the water buffalo she is.

I've got to admit, she's kind of big. This still goes to follow that damn double standard -- fat men can win Idol, but fat women can't. (Every year, there's a big contestant who gets sent home mostly because she's big!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svxLdNsxPSw

I agree with Fox. No matter how great your singing is, you're still fat.

If you sing, and you're fat, you're just as bad as a drug dealer!

Uhhh...Ruffi, it wasn't FOX it was Meme Roth that expressed that opinion. She represents National Action Against Obesity http://www.actionagainstobesity.com/NationalActionAgainstObesity/National%20Action%20Against%20Obesity.html

So blame her and them not FOX for such rediculous statements.

By the way, Melinda should have won. She is a great singer and Jordan should have come in second. However, several million people voted so it was fair. :)

Shallow. How typically FOX.

On a scale of one to obese - she's not obese...

*edits*

"unhealth"... yeah... nice one there...

She's got a point. A fat American Idol would only encourage little kids to eat more so they can become pop stars. In fact, she's not going far enough. All of our celebrities should be perfectly healthy. If they've got heart problems or diabetes, or they've had cancer or something they should be ridiculed and taken out of the limelight so kids won't go out and get sick to immitate them.

So, Twiggy was responsible for anorexia? And if you don't know who she is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twiggy picture http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/searchbrowse?um=1&psc=G&tab=wq&client=firefox-a&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.

So, Twiggy was responsible for anorexia? And if you don't know who she is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twiggy picture http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/searchbrowse?um=1&psc=G&tab=wq&client=firefox-a&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.

Dang! I was that small at her age! Yikes..

I don't think we can blame either thin or fat celebrities for any of our weight-related health problems. If your life is in perfect order and you look at a thin model, you don't automatically get an eating disorder. There has to be alot of other factors in your life contributing to your emotional distress. That works the same for overeating. I think it's difficult to have true perspective on any eating disorders until you've been in that mindset, yourself.

Don't ban fat singers. Ban Jordin Sparks. She sucks.

and no one is surprise that something so superficial takes priority over real talent! Just look at Spears, Simpsons (both of them), and Jolie.

Don't ban fat singers. Ban Jordin Sparks. She sucks.

You must be a Sanjia fan. :D

and no one is surprise that something so superficial takes priority over real talent! Just look at Spears, Simpsons (both of them), and Jolie.

Angeline Jolie DOES have talent, especially compared to the three bubbleheads you lumped her together with.

So, Twiggy was responsible for anorexia? And if you don't know who she is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twiggy picture http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/searchbrowse?um=1&psc=G&tab=wq&client=firefox-a&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.
DCD is doing his usual Devil's-Advocate stuff, don't get too pissed off about it ;)

her? fat?


where was this woman when Rubbin Studdard won?
Rubin Studdard was big, he's lost weight and he's still big.

Angeline Jolie DOES have talent, especially compared to the three bubbleheads you lumped her together with.

Sorry, Pop and Hip Hop aren't really my 'thing'. *goes back to listening Chicago*.

Sorry, Pop and Hip Hop aren't really my 'thing'. *goes back to listening Chicago*.

Angeline Jolie isn't even a musician...she's an actress. What planet do you live on?

Have you never seen Tomb Raider, Mr & Mrs Smith, or Girl Interrupted?

Angeline Jolie isn't even a musician...she's an actress. What planet do you live on?

Have you never seen Tomb Raider, Mr & Mrs Smith, or Girl Interrupted?

Seen Tomb Raider, she played Laura Croft very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svxLdNsxPSw

I agree with Fox. No matter how great your singing is, you're still fat.

If you sing, and you're fat, you're just as bad as a drug dealer!

You do know it's not over till the fat lady sings, right?

OH NOEZ!! I JUST PREDICTED TEH END OF THE WORLD!!!!111

and no one is surprise that something so superficial takes priority over real talent! Just look at Spears, Simpsons (both of them), and Jolie.
Jolie? I assume you mean Angelina, who is an actress, not a singer.
You must be a Sanjia fan. :D

Ha. Not at all. I loved Melinda and her slightly turtle/Mrs. Winslow appearance.

Although, Sanjaya is planning on going to college at a place near me. I fully intend on partying with him and making him sing. All the time.

*regrets reading thread*
Now I know something about american idol. I just couldn't go a whole lifetime, but no I had to find out something...

Oh, and I think anybody who unfortunatley turns on Foxs news... Just turn it back.

Seen Tomb Raider, she played Laura Croft very well.
Lolz at "Laura"

Seen Tomb Raider, she played Laura Croft very well.

Lara.

Lolz at "Laura"
I think Americans pronounce them the same, or very similar. That must be why they get them mixed up.

Lolz at "Laura"

At least I didn't say "Chick with big rack."

Seen Tomb Raider, she played Laura Croft very well.

Then why did you say she was superficial and lacked real talent? o.O

Lara.


I think Americans pronounce them the same, or very similar. That must be why they get them mixed up.

Some do and some don't -- it's regional. My guess is Wilgrove comes from a region that pronounces them in a very similar manner.

When you think everyone should be anorexic like you, they all look huge.

Even the old Taco Bell dog?

I'll admit she's not exactly the next Ms. America, but she's not obese.

Wouldn't it suck if how we looked determined what we were capable of? It would suck almost as much as as implants, eating disorders as a whole, racism, homophobia, cussing for shock value, genocide, ageism, and Dick Cheney.

Ban fat singers? Singers? Who cares about singers? We should really ban fat people. What purpose do they serve? Other than to make us skinnies feel better about ourselves, of course. :D

But...but...but how will we know when things are over?

EDIT: Damn, everybody beat me to it. That's what I get for not reading the thread.

FOX pundits, it's a douchebag convention.
And do you notice how the lady arguing against her for being "obese" appears to have anorexia problems and the opponent sounds gay.

OH NOES!

Don't ban fat singers, ban American Idol. It fucking sucks.

(Every year, there's a big contestant who gets sent home mostly because she's big!)

Because pop singers are supposed to be easy on the eyes. Let's be honest here, that's their only purpose. Metal and Punk players can be hideous, rock musicians can be average, but pop musicians have to be attractive. Musical talent is secondary.

Seriously, you don't have to sing well to be a pop singer. Have you ever seriously payed attention to it? If you replaced the little guitar parts and stuff with commander 64s and sequencers, you would get freaking techno music. Seriously, you can freaking hear the editing on their voices. I understand Hillary Duff's latest album was actually done by Infected Mushroom while they were extremely drunk.

I'll echo the statements about Jordin Sparks not looking that bad- she's not a very big girl. I also think that while MeMe Roth (who I don't think is sickly thin) may be working on a great cause, her campaign is incredibly misguided. She doesn't seem to have a clue that certain people are just not predisposed to being thin, and, despite what she may think, being "thin" isn't necessarily being "fit"- you can be big and fit at the same time. Sparks may have quite a few pounds on her but she's hardly a poster child for "what's wrong with America"- she looks very good and has exceptional talent (she just needs better songwriters) and can tell generations of girls who have been unable to get to the size of Britney Spears that they don't have to get there to make it. In fact, if I was Roth I'd rather rail against Kevin Federline or Paris Hilton, who are worse role models simply because they're lazy- and that's half the obesity battle right there.

I'd also like to bring to attention two of Roth's other "campaigns":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q0Hd2J_e70 - A call for parents to reduce fruit juice cosumption for their kids (because they contain a lot of sugar, never mind it's all natural)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVTnj_NIFtU - A ban on Girl Scout Cookies (the video later contains news of a planned boycott of Church bake sales)

Also, if you look at the National Action Against Obesity's (NAAO) web site, you'll see a lot of articles emphasizing healthy eating but nary much of a mention on exercise- but it is there, it's just hidden in the articles as if it was fine print. Healthy eating is great and all, but everyone knows that proper nutrition is half the battle- regular exercise is the most important, because food alone wouldn't make you lose weight. Thus, I have to ask Roth- where's the campaign to bring back physical education in our schools? If you ask me, that's a bit more important than making sure no one's eating Girl Scout Cookies.

Don't ban fat singers, ban American Idol. It fucking sucks.
Ahw, they refused to let you audition with "Don't say a word", didn't they? I told you that singing "Reckoning Day, Reckoning Night" would have been easier.

Seriously, you don't have to sing well to be a pop singer. Have you ever seriously payed attention to it? If you replaced the little guitar parts and stuff with commander 64s and sequencers, you would get freaking techno music. Seriously, you can freaking hear the editing on their voices.
You said "seriously" three times in as many sentences.

And that is terrible. Seriously.

I found out something out a while back that I find to be vaguely disturbing.

The Atkins diet actually causes you to lose weight faster then you would not eating at all. Seriously, it works by preventing your body from going into starvation mode and cutting your metabolism.

Aretha Franklin is a fat singer, and an excellent one. Fox can go to hell.

Ahw, they refused to let you audition with "Don't say a word", didn't they? I told you that singing "Reckoning Day, Reckoning Night" would have been easier.

Wait...is it bad if I recognize both of those songs?


You said "seriously" three times in as many sentences.

And that is terrible. Seriously.

Saying looks are the only thing that matters for pop singers, or using seriously a whole lot?

Ahw, they refused to let you audition with "Don't say a word", didn't they? I told you that singing "Reckoning Day, Reckoning Night" would have been easier.


:rolleyes:

When you aren't trolling, do you torture small animals for fun?

:rolleyes:

When you aren't trolling, do you torture small animals for fun?

Perhaps we should wonder why, for someone who constantly whines about how much power metal sucks, knows the names of several power metal songs...

Perhaps we should wonder why, for someone who constantly whines about how much power metal sucks, knows the names of several power metal songs...

Why spend time wondering? Either, A) He's a former fan trying to make himself look better by making fun of it. or B) He's a troll.

Probably both? That or he can use The Google.

Why spend time wondering? Either, A) He's a former fan trying to make himself look better by making fun of it. or B) He's a troll.

Probably both? That or he can use The Google.

"Don't Say a Word" was my favorite song for a while...

"Don't Say a Word" was my favorite song for a while...

Don't say a Word is a good song, but I'm more fond of Sidstyler or Legions of Stoopid by Machinae Supremacy. SA is a good enough band, but I'm more fond of other bands, since a lot of SA sounds poppier than I really like.

Don't say a Word is a good song, but I'm more fond of Sidstyler or Legions of Stoopid by Machinae Supremacy. SA is a good enough band, but I'm more fond of other bands, since a lot of SA sounds poppier than I really like.

Machinae Supremacy-wise, I prefer "Masquerade".

I like Dragonforce, Demons and Wizards, and Sonata Arctica when it comes to power metal.

Wait...is it bad if I recognize both of those songs?
No worse than it is for me to have known both of their names, and the fact that the second one was instrumental. (In case someone missed the joke).
Saying looks are the only thing that matters for pop singers, or using seriously a whole lot?
I was mainly making fun of your speech pattern, but I might as well point out that creating a catchy song and being able to sing it acceptably well isn't easy. Sure, modern singers can rely on a producer and such to do that work for them, but that wasn't always so.
The Beetles were pop, too, you know.

When you aren't trolling, do you torture small animals for fun?
I amuse myself, and apologize for nothing.

The Beetles were pop, too, you know.


Actually, The Beetles were never prominent. Or existing, as far as I know.

And, by the standards of their day, they were Rock and Roll.

The Beetles were pop, too, you know.

*Beatles

Or was that deliberate, in reference to one of their early names?

No Kate Smith? No Ethel Merman? No Ann Wilson? :(

No Meatloaf :(

Aretha Franklin is a fat singer, and an excellent one. Fox can go to hell.

Yes it can. Actually all of American pop culture can go to hell. Its emphasis on skinniness has given me compliments that aren't really compliments at all, since I'm skinny enough to be pretty when I'm actually 97 lbs--- which is not a healthy weight for a 15 year old. But I'm still beautiful, BECAUSE I am underweight. That is not healthy at all. Apparently itdoes not have any respect for the underweight at all, nor does it the overweight. The ones who look anorexic are beautiful because they are sometimes dangerously underweight. The overweight are ugly because they are not underweight. The normal weight people aren't considered pretty either, because they are underwight. No wonder people are anorexic! You have to be almost dangerously underweight to be pretty! I swear, I'm only 97 lbs, which is NOT healthy, but everyone thinks it is. Screw them. Let them burn in hell!

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I agree with this lady's premise, that people need to begin taking better care of their health and their apperance. Should this be a consideration as to who wins the show? Debatable. However, when the phrase "idol" enters into the equation, it does become a reasonable idea. Up to the show's organizers. Calling this woman anorexic, a stick figure, whatever (none of which are apt to characterize her) simply misses the point. She is not promulgating unhealthy diets, but maintaining a healthy weight.

Buh? That girl doesn't even look fat. :confused:

She's not a stick thin size zero. I wasn't aware that that was something bad now.

Now this is just me, but I like a girl who looks...y'know..."healthy", kinda like the girl in the vid...

"Increased risk of diabetes...Cholesterol..." my ass.

I'd like that bitch to say to my face that I'm at increased risk of heart disease because I'm overwieght due to medical steroids...and then I'd like to see her run from my rage.

Don't ban fat singers, ban American Idol. It fucking sucks.

YEs. Exactly what I think. I HATE American Idol with a passion.

Don't ban fat singers. Ban Jordin Sparks. She sucks.

She does NOT suck. You aren't probably as talented so don't say she sucks.
You probably don't even KNOW her.:mad::(:mad:

Now this is just me, but I like a girl who looks...y'know..."healthy", kinda like the girl in the vid...

"Increased risk of diabetes...Cholesterol..." my ass.

I'd like that bitch to say to my face that I'm at increased risk of heart disease because I'm overwieght due to medical steroids...and then I'd like to see her run from my rage.

She'd probably call me perfectly healthy. Either that or she'd tell me to lose a few pounds, in which case I would begin throwing large and heavy objects at her head.

Anyone who thinks everyone should be anorexically thin is a danger to a lot of people's health.

Ban American Idol. It encourages people to become idiots.

Anyone who thinks everyone should be anorexically thin is a danger to a lot of people's health.
I don't think she actually advocated it though. She even specified this girl should lose weight in a healthy manner. And she herself is not anorexic (her body is not even conspicuous). The only thing that irks me about her is that she's probably the type who believes people ought to be made to be healthy, whether they like it or not.

I don't think she actually advocated it though. She even specified this girl should lose weight in a healthy manner. And she herself is not anorexic (her body is not even conspicuous). The only thing that irks me about her is that she's probably the type who believes people ought to be made to be healthy, whether they like it or not.

No, it's that she said that she said Jordin should lose 40 lbs, when she should NOT lose ANY weight. Yeah Jordin might have a few extra pounds, but look at her! she's beautiful! She's not obese, she is normal and she is beautiful. The blonde whore is just advoctaing MORE Mary-KAtes and Paris Hiltons, which WE DO NOT NEED. Being that thin is NOT healthy. I do support healthy weights but Jordin appears to be perfectly healthy, despite a few extra pounds. Blondie is full of it. I support healthy weights, but I do NOT support American culture parading all these stupid, anorexic, blonde whores who have no talent and telling kids that that is healthy, because it isn't. Most of the celebrities tend to be underweight, often dangerously so, and we are telling everyone "this is healthy, being underweight is healthy, you must be undrweight". That's not healthy at all.

I agree with this lady's premise, that people need to begin taking better care of their health and their apperance. Should this be a consideration as to who wins the show? Debatable. However, when the phrase "idol" enters into the equation, it does become a reasonable idea. Up to the show's organizers. Calling this woman anorexic, a stick figure, whatever (none of which are apt to characterize her) simply misses the point. She is not promulgating unhealthy diets, but maintaining a healthy weight.

I have no complaint that people should better monitor their health and appearance, but MeMe Roth goes too far. Her argument is that because Jordin Sparks is "overweight" (I don't think she is) she'll make other people overweight which is pure and utter nonsense. Sparks has no power or control over what her fans do- so she can't "make" her fans gain weight- and to suggest her millions of fans (and she does have *literally* millions of fans) are just going to robotically gain weight to mimic her frankly insults their intelligence. Also, if you take a look at her, she looks pretty good (and pretty healthy) and sends a very positive message that girls who are unable to get skinny (because not everyone can) *are* able to succeed, which is what I believe is the real message people watching her victory will conclude. We've been battling for generations to counter the supposed idea that women have to be stick figures to be successful, and it sickens me to think that whenever we get a woman who bucks that trend she's got to be belittled as "fat"- well, not everyone *can* be skinny (and they don't have to be to be healthy), so to expect otherwise (especially when looks are one of the hardest things for a person to control) is frankly being stupid. If you want to grill someone for having an unhealthy lifestyle, I'll again mention Kevin Federline or Paris Hilton- two people who are incessantly lazy and incredibly careless. Sparks at least has a career ahead of her (well, at least for the next six months) and besides, it's not like she's 900 lbs.

Furthermore, if you read what Roth actually says- and I have- she's a proponent of the "skinny is better" kind of thinking. She says in the Girl Scout Cookie boycott video that her entire family was obese and that made her work extra hard for her to become skinny. I applaud her for being able to do that, but even she knows- or should know- that "a healthy weight" does NOT always equal "skinny". As I've said before, not everyone can be skinny- some are just predisposed to be somewhat bigger, but even there they can still be fit. This goes into my next topic and that's the dearth of exercise in her campaigning- she's all about "eating healthy" and never once makes a big deal about exercise, when that's just as important. If Roth really wanted to make a difference in the campaign against obesity, she should be targetting school systems that don't have physical education and sports teams, because that does as much- if not more- to contribute to the obesity problem as Coca-Cola and McDonald's do.

No, it's that she said that she said Jordin should lose 40 lbs, when she should NOT lose ANY weight.
She made a wager that she'd lose 40 lbs. Her words "I'll gaze into my crystal ball" were characteristic. If she meant that figure in earnest, then I'd class her as insane. However I doubt she did.

Her argument is that because Jordin Sparks is "overweight" (I don't think she is) she'll make other people overweight which is pure and utter nonsense. Sparks has no power or control over what her fans do- so she can't "make" her fans gain weight- and to suggest her millions of fans (and she does have *literally* millions of fans) are just going to robotically gain weight to mimic her frankly insults their intelligence.
I have no disagreement with this. In fact, I entirely endorse such a statement.

Furthermore, if you read what Roth actually says- and I have- she's a proponent of the "skinny is better" kind of thinking.
If she promotes anorexic lifestyles, then I will have to part ways with her. I merely think she has a point that too few people show care nowadays for their health. Going the other to the other side of the spectrum is not the solution in this case though.

If Roth really wanted to make a difference in the campaign against obesity, she should be targetting school systems that don't have physical education and sports teams, because that does as much- if not more- to contribute to the obesity problem as Coca-Cola and McDonald's do.
I agree.

She made a wager that she'd lose 40 lbs. Her words "I'll gaze into my crystal ball" were characteristic. If she meant that figure in earnest, then I'd class her as insane. However I doubt she did.

Either way, she that having a perfectly healthy girl be the American Idol will cause people to WANT to be overweight, and bsically called her obese simply because she might have had a few extra pounds. She's full of crap.

If she promotes anorexic lifestyles, then I will have to part ways with her. I merely think she has a point that too few people show care nowadays for their health. Going the other to the other side of the spectrum is not the solution in this case though.

I don't think she advocates an anorexic lifestyle, but from what I've seen from her, Roth does seem to think you've got to be thin to be healthy. Certainly this epsiode demonstrates that- here we have Sparks, who's far the picture of "overweight"- being lambasted for being "fat" by Roth. She may have a point that too few people care about their health, but she's picked the wrong target.

too right get rid of fat singers.
Let's all burn our Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Aretha Franklin and Barry White CDs. How dare they assault our aural senses with their fat wailings!

The idiocy in this is stunning... Ban singers SOLELY because of their size?

*shaking my head at the fat discrimination displayed here*

I'm sorry, but there are some awesome singers who are big. Jill Scott, Angie Stone, Aretha Franklin, Jennifer Hudson, Rosie Gaines, Martha Wash (who's vocals were STOLEN by TWO group that put a skinny woman in the front as if she was actually singing the song), Ann Nesby, BB King, and half the R&B singers in existence are big. They should be "banned" solely because of their size? Never mind that they can sing circles, squares and hexagons around their thinner counterparts? :headbang:

Leave it up to Faux News to never fail at being completely stupid... after all, this is the same channel that had that stupid crap up about Obama being a smoker and would you vote for him based on that. :upyours:

As for the "health" issue... not all people who are fat are unhealthy -- and obesity-related death numbers have been exaggerated immensely. Also, not all thin people are healthy. As long as you're exercising on a regular basis and not eating everything in site, it doesn't matter.

And, to be honest, I'm more concerned with the Pro-Ana (pro-anorexia) websites and crap like that more than anything. Women are bombarded in the media with unattainable sizes and features, and some of us starve ourselves, carve ourselves, and change ourselves until we don't even look like ourselves -- and then some of us are STILL unhappy with the result and continue botching ourselves with the surgeries. You men are lucky when it comes to things like that... you don't go through HALF the issues we have to go through. :headbang:

*snip* You men are lucky when it comes to things like that... you don't go through HALF the issues we have to go through. :headbang:

Women bring it on themselves - men don't apply the pressure on women to look thin, women do - half of us men would sleep with a goat if that goat would just give us the chance.

Yeah goat, I wasted a good dinner on you.

*nota bene - the contents of this post may not necessarily represent the views of the poster

I'll second the motion to ban American Idol instead. I often catch the last two minutes of it before "House" comes on, and the horrible singing causes me great pain for those two minutes.

I think we should just ban american idol, pop idol, x factor, and all the other crap completely.

I think we should just ban american idol, pop idol, x factor, and all the other crap completely.

Nah, we should just take them off the air once the open audition bit is over. There's humour value there.

She's got a point. A fat American Idol would only encourage little kids to eat more so they can become pop stars. In fact, she's not going far enough. All of our celebrities should be perfectly healthy. If they've got heart problems or diabetes, or they've had cancer or something they should be ridiculed and taken out of the limelight so kids won't go out and get sick to immitate them.

Why is it the fault of the person that the parents of the child can't do their job?

She's not what i'd consider fat...in fact, from what I can tell from that clip she seems to have a nice figure.


And, to be honest, I'm more concerned with the Pro-Ana (pro-anorexia) websites and crap like that more than anything. Women are bombarded in the media with unattainable sizes and features, and some of us starve ourselves, carve ourselves, and change ourselves until we don't even look like ourselves -- and then some of us are STILL unhappy with the result and continue botching ourselves with the surgeries. You men are lucky when it comes to things like that... you don't go through HALF the issues we have to go through.

Yeah, because nobody at all cares if men are unattractive and don't conform to certain social expectations. :rolleyes:

Yeah, because nobody at all cares if men are unattractive and don't conform to certain social expectations. :rolleyes:
We're just ugly hindrances. :) Seriously though, I do not understand how some straight guys have no problem with the fact that women date them in spite of their looks. Do they revel in being unattractive?

I would consider the singer unattractive (Though not paticularly fat) and the other woman to be a whiny bitch. Although not anorexic by any stretch.

Sure why not

She's got a point. A fat American Idol would only encourage little kids to eat more so they can become pop stars. In fact, she's not going far enough. All of our celebrities should be perfectly healthy. If they've got heart problems or diabetes, or they've had cancer or something they should be ridiculed and taken out of the limelight so kids won't go out and get sick to immitate them.

You slay me :D

I think everyone who qualifies to be on American Idol should be disqualified for sucking. But that's just my opinion and it's based on my ire that America's idol has to be a singer.

Personally, I'd like to see a comedian as American Idol. *nod*

I think we need more "fat" singers :)
http://www.k12.hi.us/~kau/Hawaiian/iz.gif (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe5p1BXNCQM) <- Click me! :D

I think we need more "fat" singers :)
http://www.k12.hi.us/~kau/Hawaiian/iz.gif (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe5p1BXNCQM) <- Click me! :D
I knew that song! But only from some TV show, and not in full length. I love it! He had a beautiful voice, and the way the two songs flow into each other is fantastic.

Thanks for posting that. :)

I knew that song! But only from some TV show, and not in full length. I love it! He had a beautiful voice, and the way the two songs flow into each other is fantastic.

Thanks for posting that. :)

You're welcome. :)

Oh, and you have a TG, it seems... It might be about fat singers ;)

I think everyone who qualifies to be on American Idol should be disqualified for sucking. But that's just my opinion and it's based on my ire that America's idol has to be a singer.

Personally, I'd like to see a comedian as American Idol. *nod*

I disagree. I say we keep what is funny away from the masses so they don't spoil it for the rest of us.

Oh, and you have a TG, it seems... It might be about fat singers ;)I might have replied. Twice, it seems. <<

Can someone be considered fat because of their breast size?

I might have replied. Twice, it seems. <<

Mystery solved! Yet another victory for the SuperSleuth! :D

Enjoy!

Can someone be considered fat because of their breast size?

Look fat, yeah, on first glance. Considered fat, no, that wouldn't make sense would it?
Like, if Pamela Anderson would wear a normal T-Shirt, it would hang straight down from her breasts and thus, on first glance, make her look big. Would she be considered fat because of that? No.

I think fat singers shouldn't be banned because of their looks. Some fat singers are better than the ones who weigh less. I say ban stick thin singers because they are giving off an unhealthy image to teens and tweens. Being a little overweight is better than being stick thin/ anorexic and possibly ending up in the hospital.:mad::headbang:;):(

And all this time I thought American Idol was a SINGING CONTEST. Thanks for letting us know that it was really an ANOREXIC CONTEST. Can the 70 million Americans who chose Jordin Sparks be wrong? Well, personally I'd have chosen Melinda Doolittle. Whoops - she's not exactly anorexic either. Damn - it looks like Sanjaya should have won the contest - just like he did on votefortheworst.com and the Howard Stern show.

And all this time I thought American Idol was a SINGING CONTEST. Thanks for letting us know that it was really an ANOREXIC CONTEST. Can the 70 million Americans who chose Jordin Sparks be wrong? Well, personally I'd have chosen Melinda Doolittle. Whoops - she's not exactly anorexic either. Damn - it looks like Sanjaya should have won the contest - just like he did on votefortheworst.com and the Howard Stern show.

I think I actually kinda agree with what you're saying. I don't think 70 million Americans could be wrong about Jordin Sparks' talent & sining. Sanjaya---hmmm I wonder what Simon would say if Sanjaya won American Idol instead of Jordin. (hehehehe that'd be interesting):p;):):fluffle:

I think everyone who qualifies to be on American Idol should be disqualified for sucking. But that's just my opinion and it's based on my ire that America's idol has to be a singer.

Personally, I'd like to see a comedian as American Idol. *nod*

And if it was a mud sumo wrestler?

Look. When I'm watching a singing performance, I want to be entertained. If there's lard flying all over the place when the singer gesticulates, I just get nauseous. I can't enjoy the performance, because I would rather be spending quality time in my bathroom.
And really, how hard is it to just stop eating? Do the world a favor, fatty, and lay off the cheetos.

And all this time I thought American Idol was a SINGING CONTEST.

Then you were wrong. It is very specifically not a singing contest; it is a marketing contest. The contestants are not competing to see which is the best singer; they are competing to see which one can get the most preteens to love them and vote for them hundreds of times. If it were a singing contest, none of the show's winners ever could have qualified to be on the show in the first place, as none of them have been overly endowed with musical talent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svxLdNsxPSw

I agree with Fox. No matter how great your singing is, you're still fat.

If you sing, and you're fat, you're just as bad as a drug dealer!

How in the carp is this not a locked thread? :rolleyes:

Ruffy, you should get an angle on your puppet. It's not helping much right now.
Mama Cass rocked, as did/does Heart, as did/does Meat Loaf, as did/does Nell Carter, as did/does John Popper (was).
:(

And if it was a mud sumo wrestler?

You had me up to the 'sumo' part. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svxLdNsxPSw

I agree with Fox. No matter how great your singing is, you're still fat.

If you sing, and you're fat, you're just as bad as a drug dealer!

Here's a better idea, ban stupid topics like this from being posted

Then you were wrong. It is very specifically not a singing contest; it is a marketing contest. The contestants are not competing to see which is the best singer; they are competing to see which one can get the most preteens to love them and vote for them hundreds of times. If it were a singing contest, none of the show's winners ever could have qualified to be on the show in the first place, as none of them have been overly endowed with musical talent.

What about Carrie Underwood?? She's pretty much the only Idol that has been endowed with musical talent. Oh and Jordin Sparks is talented too (even though people think she's "FAT") .....Why else did she win season 6 of American Idol??:D

What about Carrie Underwood?? She's pretty much the only Idol that has been endowed with musical talent. Oh and Jordin Sparks is talented too (even though people think she's "FAT") .....Why else did she win season 6 of American Idol??:D

From what little I recall, Carrie Underwood sounded like crap when she was competing, but has clearly taken enough voice lessons since then to get by.

As for Jordin, as I said, I only ever see the "highlights" of the shows, but she has quite definitely had more than a few painful-on-my-ears moments in those. I am therefore less than impressed.

ETA: She is, however, not even remotely "fat," in case the theoretical topic of this thread is still under discussion. :p

And, to be honest, I'm more concerned with the Pro-Ana (pro-anorexia) websites and crap like that more than anything. Women are bombarded in the media with unattainable sizes and features, and some of us starve ourselves, carve ourselves, and change ourselves until we don't even look like ourselves -- and then some of us are STILL unhappy with the result and continue botching ourselves with the surgeries. You men are lucky when it comes to things like that... you don't go through HALF the issues we have to go through. :headbang:

"Pro-Ana" is a load of horse crap. Seriously. If you're anorexic and proud of it, YOU NEED HELP. STAY THE HELL AWAY UNTIL YOU ARE SANE. I do not see why girls and women must look stick-thin just to be beautiful. I'm stick-thin, I am not beautiful. Everyone says I am though, because I've got that perfect weight-- which is 97.5 lbs. 97.5 lbs, for a 15 year old, is not healthy.

Pro-ana websites should be treated exactly like Phelps' websites-- full of crap and trolling. There is no excuse for idiocy like that, except severe mental/emotional problems.

Though I have to disagree with you-- guys do suffer eating disorders too, though admittedly much less that girls.

You had me up to the 'sumo' part. :)

How about a mud wrestler?

*Prepares to hypnotize LG and make him a mud zombie*

Everyone says I am though, because I've got that perfect weight-- which is 97.5 lbs. 97.5 lbs, for a 15 year old, is not healthy.
Out of curiosity, how tall are you? Are you built naturally thin? I am underweight, but only because I am naturally that way.

97.5 lbs, for a 15 year old, is not healthy.


Well, that depends on how tall you are/what your general build is. Assuming you're naturally rather short and slender, 97 pounds is probably just fine for a 15-year-old. I think I weighed less than that at your age, and I definitely wasn't anorexic. :)

And, to be honest, I'm more concerned with the Pro-Ana (pro-anorexia) websites and crap like that more than anything. Women are bombarded in the media with unattainable sizes and features, and some of us starve ourselves, carve ourselves, and change ourselves until we don't even look like ourselves -- and then some of us are STILL unhappy with the result and continue botching ourselves with the surgeries. You men are lucky when it comes to things like that... you don't go through HALF the issues we have to go through. :headbang:
Yeah because all the men in ads and tv are out of shape or hairy. They totally arn't sculpted or generally in ridiculously good shape and cleaned up. The difference is most men don't fucking care, there are those that do, but it isn't so many as there are women.

Out of curiosity, how tall are you? Are you built naturally thin? I am underweight, but only because I am naturally that way.

Well, that depends on how tall you are/what your general build is. Assuming you're naturally rather short and slender, 97 pounds is probably just fine for a 15-year-old. I think I weighed less than that at your age, and I definitely wasn't anorexic. :)

I've always been rather thin, but I'm thinner than I was before...

I'm 5'4, btw. That's not good.

Look. When I'm watching a singing performance, I want to be entertained. If there's lard flying all over the place when the singer gesticulates, I just get nauseous. I can't enjoy the performance, because I would rather be spending quality time in my bathroom.
And really, how hard is it to just stop eating? Do the world a favor, fatty, and lay off the cheetos.

You poor, pampered children. You all think you should only have to listen to singers who look like this (http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/01/07/beyonce_narrowweb__300x400,0.jpg), and this (http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos59/usher-04.jpg). Hot, yes...but in the old days, some of the best music put out there came out of the lungs of people who looked like THIS (http://www.casafree.com/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/13727/normal_janis-joplin.jpg) and THIS (http://www.homestead.com/Lakenheath1960s/files/joe_cocker.jpg)!

Too much focus on looks, and less on talent. Cookie-cutter singers...you can keep them thanks

You poor, pampered children. You all think you should only have to listen to singers who look like this (http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/01/07/beyonce_narrowweb__300x400,0.jpg), and this (http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos59/usher-04.jpg). Hot, yes...but in the old days, some of the best music put out there came out of the lungs of people who looked like THIS (http://www.casafree.com/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/13727/normal_janis-joplin.jpg) and THIS (http://www.homestead.com/Lakenheath1960s/files/joe_cocker.jpg)!

Too much focus on looks, and less on talent. Cookie-cutter singers...you can keep them thanks
Is it any wonder so many people feel ugly when they have talents?

Hot, yes...but in the old days, some of the best music put out there came out of the lungs of people who looked like THIS (http://www.casafree.com/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/13727/normal_janis-joplin.jpg) and THIS (http://www.homestead.com/Lakenheath1960s/files/joe_cocker.jpg)!


Cracked out druggies only consisting of heads?

I've always been rather thin, but I'm thinner than I was before...

I'm 5'4, btw. That's not good.

I'm 5'3'', and, as I said, I think I weighed something on the order of 95 pounds at your age. I exercised, I ate nice, big (and often fat- and calorie-filled) meals, but I was a teenager and I had a crazy-ass metabolism. That's pretty typical, really, and almost certainly not something you have to worry about.

Instead, enjoy it while it lasts. You'll miss that crazy-ass metabolism of yours when you're thirty and every little piece of chocolate you eat goes straight to your hips. :p

I'm 5'3'', and, as I said, I think I weighed something on the order of 95 pounds at your age. I exercised, I ate nice, big (and often fat- and calorie-filled) meals, but I was a teenager and I had a crazy-ass metabolism. That's pretty typical, really, and almost certainly not something you have to worry about.

Instead, enjoy it while it lasts. You'll miss that crazy-ass metabolism of yours when you're thirty and every little piece of chocolate you eat goes straight to your hips. :p

I do the same thing, only I hardly ever exercise except during marching season.

And last marching season was when I went from 104 to 97. And I've been losing weight.

I've always been rather thin, but I'm thinner than I was before...

I'm 5'4, btw. That's not good.
It does seem to be a rather low weight, but I can't really tell without seeing you. I'd expect you to be at around 115 lbs at that height and age. I myself am 145 lbs and 6ft1 and can easily shift weight in just a couple of weeks.

I do the same thing, only I hardly ever exercise except during marching season.

And last marching season was when I went from 104 to 97. And I've been losing weight.

Sure, and if it keeps dropping for no apparent reason, it might be worth chatting with your doctor about it. However, pretty much any weight is a healthy weight if you're (a) eating until you're full, and then stopping, and (b) getting at least some regular exercise. Please don't let yourself worry too much about being thin; that's just as silly and unhealthy as worrying about being fat. (I know from personal experience: I spent half of my junior high years force-feeding myself until I felt sick because I had let myself become convinced that I was far too horribly, hideously thin. It's not nearly as dangerous an eating disorder as either anorexia or bulimia, but it's no less foolish or unpleasant.) Just take care of your health, and don't let yourself give a damn what dress size you're wearing or what your scale says this week. :)

I do the same thing, only I hardly ever exercise except during marching season.

And last marching season was when I went from 104 to 97. And I've been losing weight.

I just know that I'm about ten pounds heavier than you, two inches taller than you, and two years older than you. I'm underweight, too. But your BMI is similar to my brother's, and he is about 5'8" and 110-ish pounds, I think, at 14.

I do the same thing, only I hardly ever exercise except during marching season.

And last marching season was when I went from 104 to 97. And I've been losing weight.

If you exercise/work out enough you should actually gain weight in the form of denser muscle. Though you'd probably lose fat and look skinnier. If you are eating well I don't think there's much you can do about a naturally fast metabolism, but a doctor or dietician or so would probably know more if you're that worried. But hey, I'm pretty sure that no matter what, more exercise is never unhealthy as long as you keep your body fueled.

Or something.

It does seem to be a rather low weight, but I can't really tell without seeing you. I'd expect you to be at around 115 lbs at that height and age. I myself am 145 lbs and 6ft1 and can easily shift weight in just a couple of weeks.

I have a pic...

Though not right now. I finally figured out how to get them to photobucket, but it's not uploading... :mad:

Edit: The pic is in my sig.

I have a pic...

Though not right now. I finally figured out how to get them to photobucket, but it's not uploading... :mad:

*Insert "Get a Blog" meme*

Hey... there SHOULD be an NS blog forum on here...

Anyway...

Doctors are good to ask about medical stuff. Or at least ask the gooder internetz.

She's not what i'd consider fat...in fact, from what I can tell from that clip she seems to have a nice figure.



Yeah, because nobody at all cares if men are unattractive and don't conform to certain social expectations. :rolleyes:

Way to take my quote. :rolleyes: I believe I said you all don't have to go through HALF the things we go through, I didn't say you were completely off the hook. Do you deny that men are less pressured when it comes to physical appearance than women?

I have a pic...<snip>...The pic is in my sig.

From the looks of your picture you don't look unhealthy...it's not like your cheeks have caved in or your skin is wrapped tightly around your arms. You're just naturally skinny...that's not something to worry about. If you really are concerned speak to a doctor, but from what I can see, you look great.

I have a pic...

Though not right now. I finally figured out how to get them to photobucket, but it's not uploading... :mad:

Edit: The pic is in my sig.

Yeah...No offense Pancake, but I'd say you're right. You do seem to be a little too much on the skinny side. I mean, it's probably not worth worrying about, though. You don't look skeletal or creepy or extremely unhealthy.

yay! no more rick waller.

I've always been rather thin, but I'm thinner than I was before...

I'm 5'4, btw. That's not good.

Honestly, according to your BMI (calculated on the CDC's website), you're healthy. You are kind of toward the low end,though. The fifth percentile is the very lowest considered healthy, and you're at the seventh, but you're not emaciated.

Don't worry,though. When I was your age (admittedly, that was 6-7 years ago), I weighed less and was 5'7. I've gotten up to 143 now, at the same height, so you could kind of "grow out of it" like I did.

You poor, pampered children. You all think you should only have to listen to singers who look like this (http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/01/07/beyonce_narrowweb__300x400,0.jpg), and this (http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos59/usher-04.jpg). Hot, yes...but in the old days, some of the best music put out there came out of the lungs of people who looked like THIS (http://www.casafree.com/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/13727/normal_janis-joplin.jpg) and THIS (http://www.homestead.com/Lakenheath1960s/files/joe_cocker.jpg)!

Too much focus on looks, and less on talent. Cookie-cutter singers...you can keep them thanks

Honestly, I think Janis Joplin looked kinda hot. I'm a nympho like that,though.

Anyway, I listen to dead guys, so I know about my music coming out of something so ugly I don't wanna look at it. (Steven Tyler's freakyass mouth, anyone?)

Your very own Angry Fruit Salad (who is, strangely enough, angry, and eating fruit salad as we speak) was once very thin and...well, kind of gross-looking.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/daria319/bunny.jpg

Yeah. That was freshman year of college, so about age 18. Below is about 6 months ago at most. I'm currently about a month and a half short of my 22nd birthday. A couple of years can make a huge difference.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/daria319/DSCF0002-2.jpg

Anyway, I listen to dead guys

Yes! We have a medium on NSG!


so I know about my music coming out of something so ugly I don't wanna look at it.

It's true. Decomposition is not a pretty sight.

Yes! We have a medium on NSG!



It's true. Decomposition is not a pretty sight.

LOL Okay, so I can't think of a better description for Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Jefferson Airplane, and most of the other stuff you'd find on my mp3 player/HD.

I've got to admit, you have a nice sense of humor there.

Your very own Angry Fruit Salad (who is, strangely enough, angry, and eating fruit salad as we speak) was once very thin and...well, kind of gross-looking.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/daria319/bunny.jpg

Yeah. That was freshman year of college, so about age 18. Below is about 6 months ago at most. I'm currently about a month and a half short of my 22nd birthday. A couple of years can make a huge difference.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/daria319/DSCF0002-2.jpg

Pfft! Good-looking in both of those. As always.

...

Do you sing as well? :p

Honestly, I think Janis Joplin looked kinda hot. I'm a nympho like that,though.

Did you know she was voted Ugliest Man on Campus when she was in college?

Or maybe she was only nominated...I think she won, but I'm not sure.

Pfft! Good-looking in both of those. As always.

...

Do you sing as well? :p

ROFL....someone HAD to ask. Yes, I do sing. I'm also a karaoke addict, for those who don't consider karaoke actual singing.

Did you know she was voted Ugliest Man on Campus when she was in college?

Or maybe she was only nominated...I think she won, but I'm not sure.

I've heard that too. I'll have to disagree with them,though. There's nothing ugly about her, which would explain my mostly-nude concert poster of Janis hanging beside my door.

ROFL....someone HAD to ask. Yes, I do sing. I'm also a karaoke addict, for those who don't consider karaoke actual singing.

Good to know. Then I've filled my curiousness-quotae of the day ;)