NationStates Jolt Archive

Or blown something up, or killed someone.

Failed to demonstrate... ('http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_headline=vc-hero-banned-from-britain&method=full&objectid=19181812&siteid=89520-name_page.html')

"This is because you have failed to demonstrate that you have strong ties with the UK."

Well, I guess that being a hero in the service of the UK doesn't count at all.

Britain is perfectly open to failed asylum seekers who choose to remain in the country; even if they hijack passenger jets to get here. Hundreds of thousands of workers from central and eastern Europe and perhaps as many from further afield have stopped in Britain - temporarily or otherwise - to make a buck, then perhaps return home. Some don't even have to pay tax while they're there. Unlike the French, the British government has been suspiciously slow to kick out foreign preachers who stir ethnic and religious hatred in the country.

But an old hero who served as well as you can without being killed outright?

Nah. Send him packing.

He just tried to do things the right way. Now he has to fight the bureaucracy. At 84, I'm not sure he has that many years left to fight, though. And I imagine the Japanese in Burma were probably a less formidable foe.

Disgusting.

But we always seem to end up treating the Gurkha's like shit.

Heads should fucking roll for this.

And I imagine the Japanese in Burma were probably a less formidable foe.
You imagined wrong.

Disgusting.

But we always seem to end up treating the Gurkha's like shit.

Heads should fucking roll for this.

They remind me of American tales of the Tuskegee Airmen, and the 54th Massachusetts black regiment, and segregated units in both world wars. . .

In fact, I think the US has a worse history towards blacks, IMHO.

Yeah, heads should roll. Either that or we can help him Hi-Jack an airplane... c'mon it'll be fun!

They remind me of American tales of the Tuskegee Airmen, and the 54th Massachusetts black regiment, and segregated units in both world wars. . .

In fact, I think the US has a worse history towards blacks, IMHO.

Non whites. Yes.

But this is not about the US.

To win a VC you not only need to show outstanding bravery...you also need to change the tide of the battle. Usually you are dead when you get one awarded.

To be a living VC holder is incredibly rare.

Thing is I have read about this guy before and that he has been trying to get a decent pension for years...now he is fighting for his life.

Home Office flunkies...cunts the lot of them.

Worst History towards Blacks...always Race.
The US has a piss poor history with all of its Vets.

That being said...
This case is fecked up.

"Tul Bahadur Pun, 84, who won our highest bravery medal in the Second World War, wants to spend his last days among old comrades and having treatment for several health problems."


He won the VC and that isnt a strong tie to the UK? I mean literally as far as recognition the only other he could do to demonstrate love of the Kingdom is fecking die. I suppose if he had done that he wouldnt have been allowed to be buried on UK soil or some such shit.

This is like a local shop owner here who they are trying to deport whose family helped the CIA in Laos and Cambodia...but INS made a mistake and so he is being punished. Just because he made the mistake of goingto france before he made it to the US they are trying to send him back to france...after over two decades of residence...children...starting a business form the ground up...and with records proving he never failed to stay intouch with INS AND he never to failed to pay taxes.

FOrget about helping American interests with absolutely no promise of anything beyond certain death if he was caught...nah.

Suits are fecked up. I get a little more Left everyday.

Non whites. Yes.

But this is not about the US.

To win a VC you not only need to show outstanding bravery...you also need to change the tide of the battle. Usually you are dead when you get one awarded.

To be a living VC holder is incredibly rare.

Thing is I have read about this guy before and that he has been trying to get a decent pension for years...now he is fighting for his life.

Home Office flunkies...cunts the lot of them.

I must agree with you.

He should threaten to behead all those who slander islam in Parliament Square.

Then Ken Livingstone will give him a council house.

He should threaten to behead all those who slander islam in Parliament Square.

Then Ken Livingstone will give him a council house.

Do you think he is a Muslim?

Do you think he is a Muslim?

I don't know whether he is or not. But it is a sure fire way to impress red ken.

I don't know whether he is or not. But it is a sure fire way to impress red ken.

Fair enough. Gurhkas are Hindu for the most part (descended from a Northern Indian Raj if memory serves).

The best way to impress Ken (no longer Red Ken...that died with the GLC) is to talk newts...seriously!

from the article

"The Foreign Office said last night: "He can apply again, addressing the concerns of the entry clearance officer.""

translation

paperwork not filled out correctly.

you can assume that the whole of british immigration policy is topsy turvy and designed to encourage the influx of hate preachers at the expense of veterans, or you can assume that mabye, when his application was glanced at, presumably written in either the writters or the readers second language. it did not make the case as well as it might have. something tells me your still going to go for the first option....

Britain is perfectly open to failed asylum seekers who choose to remain in the country;

False.

Hundreds of thousands of workers from central and eastern Europe and perhaps as many from further afield have stopped in Britain - temporarily or otherwise - to make a buck, then perhaps return home.[/quote]

You mean central and eastern Europe...from countries that are in the EU and, therefore, have a legal right to be there?

Some don't even have to pay tax while they're there.

Proof?

Unlike the French, the British government has been suspiciously slow to kick out foreign preachers who stir ethnic and religious hatred in the country.

Suspiciously slow? What, like, they're delaying deporting people so that they can spread their ideas? Certainly explains the authoritarianism of the Home Secretary; the government are really secret jihadists.

But an old hero who served as well as you can without being killed outright?

The UK in Exile;12694165']from the article

"The Foreign Office said last night: "He can apply again, addressing the concerns of the entry clearance officer.""

translation

paperwork not filled out correctly.

you can assume that the whole of british immigration policy is topsy turvy and designed to encourage the influx of hate preachers at the expense of veterans, or you can assume that mabye, when his application was glanced at, presumably written in either the writters or the readers second language. it did not make the case as well as it might have. something tells me your still going to go for the first option....

Yeah...but the thing is that the entry clearance officer is in Nepal...

Tul applied for indefinite leave to enter Britain. The law allows for deserving cases to be let in but British officials in Nepal said they were "not satisfied... your application meets the requirements".

and this guy has been fucked over by successive governments....so he's been trying for over ten years...

I have always hated bearuocratic snob nosed paper pushers. I swear it does something to your personality (like destroy it completly).

Yeah...but the thing is that the entry clearance officer is in Nepal...



and this guy has been fucked over by successive governments....so he's been trying for over ten years...

i assume he's a british native who happens to be in nepal to do his job, neither he or the ghurka are likely to have fluent written communications in the others language.

nowhere in the article does it say he's been trying for ten years

The UK in Exile;12694331']i assume he's a british native who happens to be in nepal to do his job, neither he or the ghurka are likely to have fluent written communications in the others language.

Errr...Gurkha's do speak English.

nowhere in the article does it say he's been trying for ten years

Yes it does...third paragraph in.

At his ramshackle home in Nepal, he said last night: "I feel bitterly disappointed at the way successive British governments have treated me.

Any further spurious objections?

untill recently ghurkas recieved a smaller pension than native british regulars. sounds like a disappointing way to be treated to me.

no where does it say his entry request has been refused for 10 years.

The UK in Exile;12694374']untill recently ghurkas recieved a smaller pension than native british regulars. sounds like a disappointing way to be treated to me.

I totally agree that the Gurkha's have been shafted on their pensions (and health...search up my Britain Shame thread...)

no where does it say his entry request has been refused for 10 years.

Third paragraph....successive UK governments.

Blair was elected in 97. It is now 2007. That is ten years.

Successive means that includes the government before Blair. Hence more than ten year.

Luckily for you I am in a good mood ;)

and regarding the Gurkha pensions going up...that is only for those who have served in the last ten years.

"I feel bitterly disappointed at the way successive British governments have treated me." =/= my entry request has been refused 10 years running.

what it means is his treatment by them has been disappointing, which he has more than enough to be dissapointed with without this visa rejection.

lucky for me. I can read.

You imagined wrong.

Who can imagine a more formidable foe than the British bureaucracy? I don't know...Maybe Indian bureaucracy...

Who can imagine a more formidable foe than the British bureaucracy? I don't know...Maybe Indian bureaucracy...
Chinese bureaucracy is also a formidable beast, especially HK bureaucracy.
I don't even want to think about the hassles I've had with them. *shudder*

if it's true it's pretty appalling. but this is the mirror we're talking about. a newspaper that makes the sun and the daily mail look like professional journalism.

that's terrible...:(