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This is the thread for all of us who are prepareing as best we can for Z-Day! It is here we can meet and discuss issues, such as tactics, areas we plan on creating as safe houses, prefered methods of combat, prefered weapons, and other very important issues that we will need to address to for an effective resistance.

You will all fall before our unstoppable BARHAH. Brahz Zambah G-zaz!

You will all fall before our unstoppable BARHAH. Brahz Zambah G-zaz!

But it will be fun while it lasts!

You know, its all a big joke. But when the zombies attack nobody will be laughing any more.. cept maybe berserkers.

so would Z-day be the appropriate time to panic and crack open our loved ones heads to feast on the delicious goo inside?

and I for welcome our new un-dead overlords (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAHzj5VcZKo)

so would Z-day be the appropriate time to panic and crack open our loved ones heads to feast on the delicious goo inside?

and I for welcome our new un-dead overlords (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAHzj5VcZKo)

It's always a good time to feast on the brains of your loved ones, neighbours or pets.
But it will be fun while it lasts!

You know, its all a big joke. But when the zombies attack nobody will be laughing any more.. cept maybe berserkers.
Some of the smarter zombies might manage something vaguely resembling laughing.

This is my plan if there is ever an imminent Zombie invasion of Scotland.


First, I'd pack myself a backpack full of necessary wilderness survival items including a map, compass, water bottle, flashlight, mirror, sleeping bag, sunglasses, first-aid kit, Swiss army knife, a small radio w/earphones.

I'd wear some Army surplus Camo outfit with a poncho, and good hill walkin' boots.

First, I'd walk (not drive. The roads will no doubt we blocked with cars) a couple of miles toward the Steam Preservation Railway, which I'm a member of, and get myself a crowbar for a weapon (I'm in Scotland, so I can't get a gun as easily as others here) as well as stock up on rations, any other necessary supplies, and muster as many comrades as I can.

Then we set off for Linlithgow, specifically Blackness Castle. We then barricade ourselves in, as well as acquire an escape boat than we'll moor off the jetty at the back of the castle. Attempt to contact outside world with radio equipment.

Worst case scenario: If the castle is penetrated, we set sail on the boat, and try to reach a part of the coast, island or oil rig that is still not infested, which will undoubtedly be unlikely..

You will all fall before our unstoppable BARHAH. Brahz Zambah G-zaz!

Caiger Mall: We got your Bahrah right here...:p

Yes, I'm well aware that Caiger fell.

I keep remembering a castle somewhere in Europe that built so that when the tide came in it would surround the castle, making a natural moat. Probably be a good place to hold out.

http://www.urbandead.com/map.cgi?in

Caiger Mall: We got your Bahrah right here...:p

Grabba banana - gangbang granma!

But it will be fun while it lasts!

You know, its all a big joke. But when the zombies attack nobody will be laughing any more.. cept maybe berserkers.


Are you part of the MOB, or what?

If so, excuse me while I thumb my nose at you.


Knights Templars!

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There's a party at my fortress/converted prison complex and everyone's invited!*

*All weapons must be checked at the door, and anything larger than a Barrett .50 must be brought home. In addition, you must submit yourself to a medical exam. Any scratches or bites that cannot be explained will result in summary termination.

And remember, friends don't let friends drive drunk.

I for one already have my team assembled! There are 8 of us currently but we are always on the look out for new recruits. We each have already chosen a weapon of choice for both long range and melee combat and are working on aquisitions of survival equipment/etc. We discuss the current phase of our operation each friday and saturday night before we play Dungeons and Dragons and are highly organized, we have our chain of command set up with a leader, second in command, and third in command.


And I do hope that most of you realize that I am kidding

Are you part of the MOB, or what?

If so, excuse me while I thumb my nose at you.


Knights Templars!

I'm not MOB, I'm independant with no organizational ties.

I for one already have my team assembled! There are 8 of us currently but we are always on the look out for new recruits. We each have already chosen a weapon of choice for both long range and melee combat and are working on aquisitions of survival equipment/etc. We discuss the current phase of our operation each friday and saturday night before we play Dungeons and Dragons and are highly organized, we have our chain of command set up with a leader, second in command, and third in command.


And I do hope that most of you realize that I am kidding

Just out of curiosity, what have you got? I've got a whole Railway to plunder weapons, supplies and manpower from, not to mention a virtual fortress quite nearby.

Care to share any specifics of your anti-zombie plans?

I plan on running away on my bicycle and living in the country, eating rabbits and pheasants such. I'll take some matches and a puncture kit. And some snacks.

We may have to travel long and hard to find another fortress as we do not have the resources ourselves to build one. As for weaponry we already have that available, this is redneck territory and I'm a sword enthusiast who collects replicas, and I own a couple of actual combat rated weapons. For our survival gear we have turned to outdoor outfitters, boot box, and wal-mart. We buy things in limited amounts since we beleive we have time (2 or 3 years still) until the crisis and you never know what other groups are out there that plan off of surviving through pillage and are scouting for potential groups to raid; those barbarians are almost as bad as the undead! While we are all green (none of us have ever encountered the undead) we can rely on each other for support and have studied zzombie behavior extensively (movies, books, etc.) we also have studied and adopted many of the modern military's squad based infantry tactics.

We may have to travel long and hard to find another fortress as we do not have the resources ourselves to build one. As for weaponry we already have that available, this is redneck territory and I'm a sword enthusiast who collects replicas, and I own a couple of actual combat rated weapons. For our survival gear we have turned to outdoor outfitters, boot box, and wal-mart. We buy things in limited amounts since we beleive we have time (2 or 3 years still) until the crisis and you never know what other groups are out there that plan off of surviving through pillage and are scouting for potential groups to raid; those barbarians are almost as bad as the undead! While we are all green (none of us have ever encountered the undead) we can rely on each other for support and have studied zzombie behavior extensively (movies, books, etc.) we also have studied and adopted many of the modern military's squad based infantry tactics.

Excellent planning. Have you been able to scout out any possible fortresses yet?

I live in England. Weapons aren't allowed here.

I have a spade, a pitchfork, a crowbar and various other gardening equipment type things.

My friend has a shotgun or two though. Hmm I just contradicted myself.

Please reval all the details of your anti-zombie plans. Zombies are not monitoring this thread.

Please reval all the details of your anti-zombie plans. Zombies are not monitoring this thread.
Well, they're not. That Nova Deutschland nazi guy left.

I haven't read the zombie guide thing, but isn't the most sensible strategy simply to systematically clear everything with armour and attack helicopters? Unless the zombies are like the Flood and can use rocket launchers there is no way to prevent this.

I live in England. Weapons aren't allowed here.

I have a spade, a pitchfork, a crowbar and various other gardening equipment type things.

My friend has a shotgun or two though. Hmm I just contradicted myself.

England? Perfect country for fortresses. We have tens of ruined but adequate castles and palaces dotted all over. I suggest you flee to Dover Castle if you're in the South.

Very large and relatively modernized since it was used by the British Army in World War Two. There's a large network of underground tunnels down there you can take shelter in. Electricity and Water supplies are excellent, but when the power does go off, you'll need to find some kind of Dynamo generator.

Excellent planning. Have you been able to scout out any possible fortresses yet?

We have gone via boat to check out some of the natural islands in a few of the larger lakes in the area, to our knowledge none are privatly owned and they all have plentiful supplies of game and wood for a small amount of people. Being completly surounded by water would make it almost zombie proof but we will likely need to keep an eye out for a few stragglers lucky enough to find thier way onto shore if they enter the lake. It wouldn't be nearly as many as we would encounter on land though.

I live in England. Weapons aren't allowed here.

you don't need weapons, we have CHAV's and football hooligans which are more than a match for the zombie benefits thieves!

in fact I'm not entirely certain it will make for a change

In before the lock?

Technically, all we have to do is survive and not procreate until the zombie's brains rot away. Kill the brain, kill the ghoul - time is your best weapon.

you don't need weapons, we have CHAV's and football hooligans which are more than a match for the zombie benefits thieves!

in fact I'm not entirely certain it will make for a change

No one knows what it's like... to be a dustbin... in Shaftsbury... with hooligans...

I would go to the south pole and live there, feeding on weather scientists and penguins. On that order.

Well, well - ain't I glad that this little book has arrived at my doorstep last month.

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As for weaponry - All I have here are a couple of knives; I think the long bread knife would make a nice machete. And I do have one of those "Klappspaten" (pictured above).

Mmh. There's something like a homedepot and a mall close enough, though... ;)

In before the lock?

You are standing outside Zombie Slayers Unite! thread, a two page discussion with an exclamatory title. The thread has been extremely heavily barricaded.

My plan is simple. Climb onto the roof, getting about by jumping from rooftop to rooftop, and drop big rocks onto any zombies unfortunate enough to slink within range.

I plan to survive :)

I survived the sieges of Caiger Mall, and it only fell after I left it :cool:

I plan to survive :)

I survived the sieges of Caiger Mall, and it only fell after I left it :cool:
I haven't logged into my accounts for ages...

I see I have started a round of rousing conversation.

I know squat about weapons, but I do know where I plan to hole up:

Masada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masada).

Only two ways up - the Snake Path, and the Roman Ramp. Both are easy to defend if you have brains and guns and your opponents don't. Dynamiting the ramp would make the place all but impenetrable.

As for water, there is a pipeline to the top, using a 2,000 year-old water system that has yet to break down. Food, well, we'll raid the kitchens at the hostel, dry what we can, and for the rest we'll hunt wildlife. The Zealots survived a three-year Roman siege, and the Romans were excellent strategists. I think we can survive against stupid zombies.

Oh, and weapons? It's Israel. Plenty of high-caliber weapons around, not to mention more than a few scimitars. If we can retain some form of transportation (electric motorbikes or perhaps horses), that gives us a raiding capability.

The only problem is getting to Israel from the US...

England? Perfect country for fortresses. We have tens of ruined but adequate castles and palaces dotted all over. I suggest you flee to Dover Castle if you're in the South.


Wonb't the fact they're 'ruined' be a bit problematic? I guess it depends on the degree of ruinity. And castles were built to keep things out. If you could restore one a bit then it'd be good.

Nobody has asked the obvious. Are we talking speedy zombies or shufflers?

shufflers, speedy zombies are meer fantasy.

Yeah, somebody probably saw a slow one falling down hill and panicked. Best to check though.

I already have a compound bow, with a 65lb draw on it that would do for starters.....Would need a shotgun and rifle though...Plus a crosswbow (225lbs or up preferably) for when ammo is low...and for the laugh. Hills of donegal would probably be the best....fresh water, fairly rugged terrain.

Aren't bows fairly inaccurate? The thing with zombies is that you have to aim for the brain each time.

Although, admittedly, I know nothing about bows.

Aren't bows fairly inaccurate? The thing with zombies is that you have to aim for the brain each time.

Although, admittedly, I know nothing about bows.

They're as accurate as the eejit firing them, really. More subject to cross wind than firearms, particularily at range, being the first disadvantage that comes to mind. One you get out to about 60-70m you'd be better off with the Crossbow - massively bigger thump on it, so theres less of arc.

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Me too!

Which brings me to the question: which'd be the best place closest to you. I may be a welsh boy, but at leasst I'd have Cardiff's museum.
The thing with museums is that they'd have nly a few entrances, see?
Plus, you'd have several security doors, and old armour, swords and guns, as well as others you could use (think of the posssiblities you could have with a T-Rex rib-cage!)
Plus, you'd have their cafeteria or restaurant for food, or you could use the sewer tuinnels that are likely to make a show beneath the Museum. Unlikely, I know. but you'd always have to think in any terms **murphy's law**


And why old armour? well, a normal modern military or police uniform doesn't protect the neck, so you'd want to get your hands onto some old chainmail or metalic armour? oh, and don't forget, most military hand-to-hand weapons wouldn't have the same effect of a greaster broad sword! what would a truncheon or combat knife do? zilch! what're you gonna do when you run out of ammo? run? ha!


plus, besides a military or police station's outpost, a warehouse might do good for a time, but only for foodstuffs.

How about we hijack some abanonded barges, ships, etc. We could use oil barges and such as headquaters and strongholds. We'd patrol the shore line searching for survivor's and recruit them for the cause.

I don't believe zombies well swim if at all.

Any of you read WWZ? Bloody good book, and it's about this sort of thing. Europe's got the advantage of having more castles and the like, especially in places like Germany. Most of the British castles are now just ruins, thanks to the Civil War.

Nobody has asked the obvious. Are we talking speedy zombies or shufflers?

Riddle me this: Have you ever seen a speedy zombie in RL? I think not!

Any of you read WWZ? Bloody good book, and it's about this sort of thing. Europe's got the advantage of having more castles and the like, especially in places like Germany. Most of the British castles are now just ruins, thanks to the Civil War.

I gotta agree with you there, I doubt shuffler zombies(or those alleged speedy zombies...if they truly exist) could ever get past a well fortified English castle. Of course a super Market or Mall(dead rising) would be the more sensible place to create a safe zone. A lot of thing to do there with all the supplies and possible weapons.

If zombies ever do truly attack though, Id like to experience one of those moments where I'm surrounded by zombies and only have a handgun and baseball bat. If I were to survive, then I would join or look for a safe zone. You cant say you lived through a zombie attack without acting like a bad ass at least once.

Riddle me this: Have you ever seen a speedy zombie in RL? I think not!

I thought I did, but it was just a junkie tripping over the edge of the footpath, back when I did a bit of security...

Which brings me to the question: which'd be the best place closest to you. I may be a welsh boy, but at leasst I'd have Cardiff's museum.
Yeah, museums are fine - but not really it for me here... Either too small or too far away.

I guess I'm one of those loners that has to improvise a lot and make things up and work on the way...

I would definitely hit the nearest home-depot store and stack up... Other than that? Hmm.

And we are definitely not combatting those evil fast suckers, are we? 'Cause that would suck big time!!!

Let's all go to the Winchester!

This is an amazing; it only works if you're in North Northumberland though. This is set around the zombies from either 28 days later (the infected) or zombies from Shaun of the dead. Both of them die quite easily, as one is so slow that they can't really do much apart from in large numbers, and the other still has anatomical weak points as a human, so is relatively easy to gun down.
First we gather guns and ammo from the local area/s; we then gather our group of people, and head to bamburgh castle. We barricade ourselves there, in the case of 28 days later, the infected, we sit there and wait for the 5 weeks that they survive for and wait until they starve to death. In the case of the Shaun of the dead zombies, we lower the port-culis and wait in the castle to be rescued, shooting zombies for our entertainment, and living off any of the food kept there.
We would keep a boat moored behind the castle, and should the situation occur where we might result in loosing the castle to the zombies outside, we flee there, and go to the fanre islands, where there is a pre-prepared RV point with a house, food and a generator. Should that be compromised, we go to longstone lighthouse, barricade ourselves there; using the natural defences properties of the island, it would force the zombies into a bottle neck. To gather food, we make raiding trips to Holly Island using our boat.

I say we nuke 'em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

My plan:

Get infected and bite as many of you as possible.

How about we hijack some abanonded barges, ships, etc. We could use oil barges and such as headquaters and strongholds. We'd patrol the shore line searching for survivor's and recruit them for the cause.

I don't believe zombies well swim if at all.

Zombies can't swim but they can walk on the sea bed apparently.

Also according to this video:

Nick Frost's 50,000 Zombies! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ynXBMgLEbM)

Zombies walking on the sea bed can fill with gas and bob up to the surface like corks, and grab the inhabitants of small boats. Of course if you've got a larger boat this wouldn't be a problem. Apparently oil-rigs are the best place to go to hide.

You will all fall before our unstoppable BARHAH. Brahz Zambah G-zaz!

TRAITOR!!!! Get HIM!!!!

TRAITOR!!!! Get HIM!!!!


Hes only faking. Real zombies can't type.

And why old armour? well, a normal modern military or police uniform doesn't protect the neck, so you'd want to get your hands onto some old chainmail or metalic armour? oh, and don't forget, most military hand-to-hand weapons wouldn't have the same effect of a greaster broad sword! what would a truncheon or combat knife do? zilch! what're you gonna do when you run out of ammo? run? ha!



While I find the majority of your strategy to be good, one problem... armor. The armor will slow you down, and while it may protect you from direct zombie bites it won't protect you enough against broken bones and the like that will be very likely when a zombie horde catches up to you and starts to pummel, bite, step on, and other things to you after they drag you down by sheer numbers.
The best protection against zombies is short hair and normal fitting clothing, you do not want to give a zombie too many potential hand holds when its comeing after you, they don't get tired, nor do they feel pain so they will continue to exert full force whatever they do; if they grab you they will NOT let go. Unless you have extensive experiance wearing heavy armor I would not suggest it.

First we gather guns and ammo from the local area/s; we then gather our group of people, and head to bamburgh castle.
You know, the main problem with that is that guns aren't exactly easy to come by in the UK.

I'd have thought it'd be easiest to get your hands on something like an axe or a hammer and stick with that sort of thing to stove their heads in.

Hes only faking. Real zombies can't type.

Mrh?

Apparently oil-rigs are the best place to go to hide.

Shoo. There's no room for extra people. I've already made deals with the remnants of the world navies. :p

Brahz Zambah G-zaz!

Harah Grashnah, Harah Grashnah, Grashnah Grashnah, Harah Harah
Harah Ramah, Harah Ramah, Ramah Ramah, Harah Harah

Zombies can't swim but they can walk on the sea bed apparently.

They ain't so hot at tracking by smell when underwater though, I would wager.

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They ain't so hot at tracking by smell when underwater though, I would wager.


yes, but what happens when they zombify sharks, dolphins and whales?

That'd make it harder to keep up an oil rig, especially if you could only use a helicopter. "three-men-in, three-men-out" could be very dangerous. You'd never know if one could be brought back zombified, or that you'd lose your helicopter! :eek:

Although this'd be great for some epic storyline... hmmm....



and one tto th armour thing, if you just had a breast plate or just chain-m,ail, that should help, and use footie gear for the shins! Studded boots would obviously help, and if you find yourself in a problem, just throw bits at them!


oh, and the nuking idea?? That miiight work... but don't forget, a proprotion might still survive. maybe only a small proportion, but where'd it go from there?
Nuke North America and live in the south?
Nuke Russia and live in the north?

Why nuke when you can eradicate? surely the armies of thye west could create some nice armour?


oh, and while we're at it, why not just go underground?
I don't exactly mean take to the Londfon undergound, but if you take a bunker-base for xample, you could cut their entrances in half. Plus, if it's only one or two doors....

oh, and the nuking idea?? That miiight work... but don't forget, a proprotion might still survive. maybe only a small proportion, but where'd it go from there?

Great, now we've got radioactive flesh-eating Zeds.

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There is always hope... You just might not like the path ahead!

I say we nuke 'em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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Hes only faking. Real zombies can't type.

.-. . .- .-.. / --.. --- -- -... .. . ... / ... .--. . .- -.- / .. -. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . .-.-.- / -... .- .-. .... .- ....!

Great, now we've got radioactive flesh-eating Zeds.

They'll mutate into 14ft tall hyper-zombies!

Let's all go to the Winchester!
Take car. Go to mum's. Kill Phil - "Sorry." - grab Liz, go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over. How's that for a slice of fried gold?

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and one tto th armour thing, if you just had a breast plate or just chain-m,ail, that should help, and use footie gear for the shins! Studded boots would obviously help, and if you find yourself in a problem, just throw bits at them!
Dunno how effective a brest-plate would be. After all, if you're fighting zombies and you haven't got access to firearms, you'd want something that protects your limbs and fingers more than just the trunk of your body. You're more likely to get bitten on the hand when attempting to whack 'em between the eyes with a hammer than on your chest or something. They'd probably only bite you on the neck or chest when you're within arm's reach of them, and you're buggered if that happens, no matter what you're wearing.

If you're going to nab any armour from a museum or something, you'd best go for something like gauntlets.

Dunno how effective a brest-plate would be. After all, if you're fighting zombies and you haven't got access to firearms, you'd want something that protects your limbs and fingers more than just the trunk of your body. You're more likely to get bitten on the hand when attempting to whack 'em between the eyes with a hammer than on your chest or something. They'd probably only bite you on the neck or chest when you're within arm's reach of them, and you're buggered if that happens, no matter what you're wearing.

If you're going to nab any armour from a museum or something, you'd best go for something like gauntlets.

It's been proven that during a zombie attack, the plate armor will eventually pull apart the plates and/or get in the weak points.

If you're in a zombie invested area, you can use things like a shark-proof chain link suit, but it's always best to remain mobile rather than using armor.

It's been proven that during a zombie attack, the plate armor will eventually pull apart the plates and/or get in the weak points.

If you're in a zombie invested area, you can use things like a shark-proof chain link suit, but it's always best to remain mobile rather than using armor.

So true.

And preferable method of travel by land is in a Hummer (H1) or some other goliath car so that you can simply ram any zombies on the way. And keep an ATV/etc. in the back, just in case.

But more preferable is sea, unless the zombies can swim or walk on the bottom and then bob up to the surface.

wait... aren't hummers really expensive fuel-wise? wouldn't it bwe beter to just get a tank or a van?
it's just about the same thing.

ooo, or get a plane, and travel to the hill;s and mountains.


Or, here's an idea, live on the top of skyscrapers: using wires and bridges to go from one place to the next. Zombies won't be able to build much of an intelligence without brains, so also look into becoming a cyborg. Then nuke them.

that, or become a ninja

wait... aren't hummers really expensive fuel-wise? wouldn't it bwe beter to just get a tank or a van?
it's just about the same thing.

ooo, or get a plane, and travel to the hill;s and mountains.


Or, here's an idea, live on the top of skyscrapers: using wires and bridges to go from one place to the next. Zombies won't be able to build much of an intelligence without brains, so also look into becoming a cyborg. Then nuke them.

that, or become a ninja

A Hummer over a van because it's easier to store spare gas in the back. And a tank is usually harder to get.

Zombies can climb up hills, and mountains aren't very rich in resources.

Skyscrapers could work if the stair wells are taken out and the elevators having ladders as a backup. Zombies can't climb ladders.

Cybernetics and the Way of The Ninja are too long term. A zombie threat could only last a season or so...

And nukes make it hard for US, too...

Zombies can't climb ladders.

You willing to bet your life on that one?

You willing to bet your life on that one?

Depends on the age of the zombie.

Fresh-bitten, I'd need a :sniper: (or just rocks) to pick 'em off. But with one ladder, it'd be easy pickings... :D

If they're older, the limbs will fall off before the 25th story, so no worries.

If they're older, the limbs will fall off before the 25th story, so no worries.

You also plan to carry all your supplies up about 250' of ladders?

Nevermind the engineering challenge of taking out 25, maybe 50, concrete flights of stairs and securing any lift shafts...

...we know that zombies without use of their lower limbs can use their arms to propel thwemselves, so I see no question that they can climb ladders or cables.

You also plan to carry all your supplies up about 250' of ladders?

Nevermind the engineering challenge of taking out 25, maybe 50, concrete flights of stairs and securing any lift shafts...

...we know that zombies without use of their lower limbs can use their arms to propel thwemselves, so I see no question that they can climb ladders or cables.

The elevators are still there, just turned off (with the key).

But the stairs would be harder, though all you have to do is take out the uppest and lowest flights, followed by only activating the express elevators to get to the top. The rest get sabotaged and then we're fine.

This is assumed to be a multi-man operation, BTW.

A block of flats or a large building would be best, I think. The only problem would be is that you're isolating yourself in the middle of a city, which you may want to avoid, as cities would probably be the places with the largest concentrations of zombies.

Food and water would also be a problem, considering that, once you run out of your own stocks, you'd have to run the gaunlet of large numbers of zombies to get any more supplies.

Also, with such buildings, there might also be zombies already in them.

... followed by only activating the express elevators to get to the top.

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Generator. We have many of these in the Southern States, so I assumed I'd bring one with me.

And gas. We have a lot of that too...

They'll mutate into 14ft tall hyper-zombies!

guys.. zombies can't mutate, since they don't breed, but the virus that creates the (solanum) might be able to Mutate/change

guys.. zombies can't mutate, since they don't breed, but the virus that creates the (solanum) might be able to kill them

You know so little about zambahz.

You know so little about zambahz.

Zombies can only last about a month or three... no time for mutation.

You know so little about zambahz.

NOT!! (borat voice)

i have read the "Zombie survival guide"

you can't mutate over a single generation...that is biologicaly not a possibillity

hope i can get a hold of this
http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/rifle/M107.html

Zombies can only last about a month or three... no time for mutation.
That's what you think.
NOT!! (borat voice)

i have read the "Zombie survival guide"
Well if you read it in a book it must be right

you can't mutate over a single generation...that is biologicaly not a possibillity

And they won't.

hope i can get a hold of this
http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/rifle/M107.html
That's hardly practical against zombies.

i think that is a bad idea.... :sniper: makes to much noise..

go for old fashion ww2 carabine. m1 is best, since it is the most easy to come by (still in production)

machetes are best choice for close combat weapons, best is army version, since its black... (crowbars are also very handy as a tool... if you have money, go for a titanium one, much stronger)

That's hardly practical against zombies.

head shots from a top of a tall bulding

head shots from a top of a tall bulding

Hell, form that height, just throw rocks or glass or metal. Same effect from that height.

i think that is a bad idea.... :sniper: makes to much noise..

go for old fashion ww2 carabine. m1 is best, since it is the most easy to come by (still in production)

machetes are best choice for close combat weapons, best is army version, since its black... (crowbars are also very handy as a tool... if you have money, go for a titanium one, much stronger)

whats noise got to do with it when your on a roof top and you can't get the m1 here

Hell, form that height, just throw rocks or glass or metal. Same effect from that height.

do both for fun

That's what you think.

Well if you read it in a book it must be right



well i thought that it was that type off Z's we were preparing for...


if not, then define zombie, that would make it a lot more easy to give each-other advice...

do both for fun

Or for effectiveness, drop a firebomb/Molotov cocktail. :D

Hell, form that height, just throw rocks or glass or metal. Same effect from that height.

Rocks, glass and metal don't come with a scope.

whats noise got to do with it when your on a roof top and you can't get the m1 here


well how long do you want to stay on your little rooftop??


(and how many Z's are we talking about, 100 or 1000 or millions??)

well how long do you want to stay on your little rooftop??


(and how many Z's are we talking about, 100 or 1000 or millions??)


Probably only one to three months, and it doesn't matter how many Zee's we've got here since the undead body cannot last much more than three months.

Still, they'd be dangerous in that time.

Dangerous, but slow as shit.

Probably only one to three months, and it doesn't matter how many Zee's we've got here since the undead body cannot last much more than three months.

It amuses me when people make these assumptions about bodies that has risen from the dead.

Still, they'd be dangerous in that time.

It amuses me when people make these assumptions about bodies that has risen from the dead.

Total caloric content of human body: 250000
Estimated caloric need per day: 2500


Let's not forget that the body would decompose, so less and less would be available each day... plus stuff falling off from either decomp or physical injury...

Or for effectiveness, drop a firebomb/Molotov cocktail. :D
do that too
Rocks, glass and metal don't come with a scope.

dam right they don't but it still be fun

We here at the Scourge find it offensive you would hunt us. We've been trying to live peacefully and only eat the brains of lesser animals all this time and this is our thanks?
We are insulted, good day sirs and madams!
*puts on top hat from a junk heap and walks off*

Total caloric content of human body: 250000
Estimated caloric need per day: 2500


Let's not forget that the body would decompose, so less and less would be available each day... plus stuff falling off from either decomp or physical injury...

who says that zombies need that much calories?? and besides zombies have a habit of eating humans

Total caloric content of human body: 250000
Estimated caloric need per day: 2500


Let's not forget that the body would decompose, so less and less would be available each day... plus stuff falling off from either decomp or physical injury...

So, an oxygen starved brain basically restarting a body is fine, but zombies not needing much in the way of calories is just impossible?

I'm telling you guys, Masada is the way to go. The Zealots held out for three years against the Romans, I think we can hold out against some zombies.

who says that zombies need that much calories?? and besides zombies have a habit of eating humans

Zombies eat due to instinct. Only reference I can think of to support this is from Day of the Dead. Dr. Frankenstein (don't remember the good Dr's name :P ) removed all internal organs necessary for digestion, and the zombie still wanted to eat him. They don't take any nutrients/calories from eating. Their systems necessary to sustain life are non-functioning.

Too bad it didn't mention the caloric use of a zombie :/

A point I would like to bring up is, how are the zombies created? Nothing specific beyond the Romero way of thinking ala Land of the Dead ("every one that dies gets up") or being bitten/viral? If its viral, my thought is that decomposition will be slowed, but I *would* be willing to bet my life that the overwhelming majority of zombies would be decayed to the point of non-mobile lethality within a year or two. On the other hand, if anyone who dies and rises, well, thats just creepy to think of due to the fact that the same force that resurrected them could sustain them for much longer or.. *gulp*.. until they are disposed of. I really doubt that since all things relating to zombies tend to agree that head = dead, that what ever force would bring them back would only slow greatly the time it takes for them to eventually fall apart... no more room in hell, the dead will litter the earth :D

Oki, back on topic. When the zombies decide to rise, I'm pretty much boned. I have no real weapons to speak of outside of short blades, and I'm not in the best physical condition. Most likely, my time would be spend doing all the things I was afraid to do while I was alive, for what ever reason (social consequences, phobias, would most likely kill me.. fun stuff :D ) and if I survived and hadn't been bitten, I would try to find survivors. If there are x MILLIONS of zombies, large percentages of the world population, then chances are slim that even the best prepared would survive... I would ride it out the best I could before I was ended.

Yay happy endings!

... but zombies still eat "people", and they have a lot of calories in their bodies.. as earlier said... so if they just eat humans, the calories shouldn't be a problem..

and i think lying on a roof for 3 months could make you insane..

i think its viral... so decomposing is slowed much down...

back to "topic". this masda place sounds quite nice, also i would not use a car

a. i can't drive one
b. bikes are better
c. attracts to much attention

back to "topic". this masda place sounds quite nice, also i would not use a car

a. i can't drive one
b. bikes are better
c. attracts to much attention

Finally, someone responds to me! Now, on the topic of cars:

a. I can.
b. Cars can carry more than bikes.
c. Cars can outrun zombies.

We'll use cars to get to Masada with our initial supplies. Though for scouting and raiding purposes, bikes might serve better, since we won't have our own gas supply.

A final advantage to Masada - it's not located terribly close to any major Israeli settlements (or, for that matter, any Palestinian ones). Consequently, it is an unlikely target for an attack.

A final advantage to Masada - it's not located terribly close to any major Israeli settlements (or, for that matter, any Palestinian ones). Consequently, it is an unlikely target for an attack.


But once they've finished picking the beards out of their teeth after getting those, they'll go there for flesh....

So, an oxygen starved brain basically restarting a body is fine, but zombies not needing much in the way of calories is just impossible?

Yes.

The reason being because we know that they are equipped with standard human parts and we can calculate their needs based on the host's BMR and then add on the average zombie's daily tasks.

As for eating, the digestive tract would be decomposed after a few weeks. Since the body is already dead, there's nothing to stop bacteria etc. from doing so.

A zombie is essentially a unit that decays over time. It's not an invincible soldier, far from it.

Total caloric content of human body: 250000
Estimated caloric need per day: 2500


Let's not forget that the body would decompose, so less and less would be available each day... plus stuff falling off from either decomp or physical injury...

The fact that it is dead and walking rather throws off your neat equation, besides the fact that even if you figures hold, you haven't considered zombie hibernation or newly infected specimens.

The fact that it is dead and walking rather throws off your neat equation, besides the fact that even if you figures hold, you haven't considered zombie hibernation or newly infected specimens.

After a while, all the people would be either infected or together in hideouts. Disregarding the zombies having any success (for now, I can add that in later), this point is where the clock starts, ticking to our 3-month limit. Should the zombies have any success (let's just say 10% chance of breaking a fortification each time and about 5 attempts per day, so 50-50 chance that the zombies get new blood), they'll get only limited new specimens (since not everyone will be in the same place)... let's just assume that there's a 10:1 ratio of zombies to humans per fort invasion. So every two days, one invasion group gets 10% additional forces, lasting for three months. Now let's map this out in reduced form:

Day 1: 1000 zombies
10 camps of ten

Day 1: Invasions fail, Zombies down to 500
Day 2: Invasion successful, 9 fail. Zombies -> 285, Humans->90
Day 3: Zombies-> 143
Day 4: Zombies-> 71 (Half their forces means a halved success rate)
Day 5: Zombies-> 35
Day 6: Zombies-> 27, Humans-> 80
Day 7: Zombies-> 13
Day 8: Zombies-> 6
Day 9: Zombies-> 0

So our primary wall of zombies dies in 9 days with only a 20% casualty rate.

So it would take about 50 zombies to infect one person, due to my simplified but definitely zombie-favoring math.

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Spelled it wrong... :D

That assumes that people are in adequet fortifications (argh, too late to spell such words). It doesn't take into account people doing stupid things, like "We're surrounded! Make a break for it!" or accidentally opening the wrong gate, etc. Also, when a zombie invasion kicks off, the idea that zombies are about would take a while to actually kick in. How credible is the idea of walking dead to your average person? Not that believeable.

That assumes that people are in adequate fortifications (argh, too late to spell such words). It doesn't take into account people doing stupid things, like "We're surrounded! Make a break for it!" or accidentally opening the wrong gate, etc. Also, when a zombie invasion kicks off, the idea that zombies are about would take a while to actually kick in. How credible is the idea of walking dead to your average person? Not that believable.

My math was post-invasion once everyone was aware of the zombies and referred to those who did not run/ were fortified. Hence the counter starting after a certain point.

Do you honestly think 10 men could not hold off 450 zombies? That's a 45-to-1 ratio. A standard man-to-man fortification invasion ratio is 10:1. Are men not at least 4.5 times greater than zombies?

Day 1: 1000 zombies
10 camps of ten

Day 1: Invasions fail, Zombies down to 500

...

So it would take about 50 zombies to infect one person, due to my simplified but definitely zombie-favoring math.

Ten headshots per human on the very first day? Ain't the Zeds being favoured by your math.

Do you honestly think 10 men could not hold off 450 zombies? That's a 45-to-1 ratio. A standard man-to-man fortification invasion ratio is 10:1. Are men not at least 4.5 times greater than zombies?
I'm not sure. It depends on the weaponry involved. As I'm in the UK, the chances of people getting their hands on any firearms is rather small. The only thing resembling a gun I've got to hand is an air rifle.

I'm not sure. It depends on the weaponry involved. As I'm in the UK, the chances of people getting their hands on any firearms is rather small. The only thing resembling a gun I've got to hand is an air rifle.

Oh, I was doing this US-based, where guns and huge cars are abound.

As for forts, our malls and museums (and towers) will do nicely.

Are men not at least 4.5 times greater than zombies?

Nope.

Zed needs: brains (but whether they actually need them is unclear).

Breather needs: oxygen, water, food, heat, shelter.

Barhah for teh win.

So long, top of the food chain, it was nice knowing you.

As for forts, our malls and museums (and towers) will do nicely.

What happened in the last recorded cases of holding out against the zombies in malls, pray tell?

A final advantage to Masada - it's not located terribly close to any major Israeli settlements (or, for that matter, any Palestinian ones). Consequently, it is an unlikely target for an attack.

You know what just popped up in my head? Zombie suicide bombers.

You know what just popped up in my head? Zombie suicide bombers.

Actually, that would be a good use for people who have been bitten by zombies. Especially since zombies tend to clump together, you could do a lot of damage that way.

Zombie suicide bombers wouldn't work, since you need to manually activate the bomb. A zombie can't do that, except by accident.

Actually, that would be a good use for people who have been bitten by zombies. Especially since zombies tend to clump together, you could do a lot of damage that way.

Actually, since that means you'd have to strap the vest on a zombie, which would turn on you, I'd say that's a bad idea. Unless you're a necromancer who commands the zombies that is.


Zombie suicide bombers wouldn't work, since you need to manually activate the bomb. A zombie can't do that, except by accident.

Remote detonation, heat signature proximity, triggering, time bombs. There's plenty of ways to get it done right.

What happened in the last recorded cases of holding out against the zombies in malls, pray tell?

It's called strategy and tactics, my friend.

Plus, it surely beats an open field.

Please reval all the details of your anti-zombie plans. Zombies are not monitoring this thread.

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What happened in the last recorded cases of holding out against the zombies in malls, pray tell?

Well, they'd have to make sure to purge out the Hare Krishna zombies early on....

Some more food for thought (or thought for food, bah dum shing): in order to be turned, a human needs to be bitten, right? And zombies crave human flesh? That's kind of counter-productive to their expansion, because to satiate their hunger, the deads would at least cripple their future brethren, as I doubt a zombie would stop after just one bite, being a creature of instinct, and all. I very much doubt Bernard was up and around, doin' the monster mash after his gruesome demise.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6628/j6kd900qz.jpg

I lolled.

I can think of a place that can make a good armory that is in plenty abundance high school's think about it you got a metal shop, a wood shop and a chemistry lab, at least in most schools, alowing you to get/make all the wepons you need.

I have an intresting situation I live in Canada where guns are less common than in the Us but more than in the UK and most are eather rifles or shotguns.

I can think of a place that can make a good armory that is in plenty abundance high school's think about it you got a metal shop, a wood shop and a chemistry lab, at least in most schools, alowing you to get/make all the wepons you need.

I have an intresting situation I live in Canada where guns are less common than in the Us but more than in the UK and most are eather rifles or shotguns.

I've heard tell that university campuses designed in the 60s were designed in such a way as to make rioting difficult. That might be good for holding off zombies.

i still think that everything depends on which kind of Z'ds we are fighting...

I've heard tell that university campuses designed in the 60s were designed in such a way as to make rioting difficult. That might be good for holding off zombies.
I think that would have been to stop internal rioting, rather than external. Sort of stopping people congregating in large numbers inside of the campus, rather than preventing large numbers coming onto the campus.

I've heard tell that university campuses designed in the 60s were designed in such a way as to make rioting difficult. That might be good for holding off zombies.

saw a movie with a Outbreak at a university campuses did not end good

saw a movie with a Outbreak at a university campuses did not end good

Do you remember the best location used in the movie?

Do you remember the best location used in the movie?

yes

yes

And that would be?

And that would be?
don't recall now heads full of Hellraiser

don't recall now heads full of Hellraiser

:(


But I need to figure out where the most defendable location within, say, a 20 mile radius is...

:(


But I need to figure out where the most defendable location within, say, a 20 mile radius is...

freezer room with it's thick door as there is no power

Minaris firstly, I know you're strategy sounds good on paper but I am here to riddle it full of bullet holes (this is best for your personal survival).

Most commonly occuring undead are infected by a virus that causes the brain to reanimate, the presence of this virus even effects and kills other forms of virus and bacteria and therefore slows the time abody takes to rot. It has been estimated that it wold be more than 2 years before a zombie would tear and strain thier muscle structures enough to paralyze themselves based on normal zombie behavoral patterns (shamble about, kill, eat, rinse and repeat).
Zombies are not tactical thinkers but they do respond to sights and sounds, as such it is best to keep a low profile and remain mobile in high density zombie infested areas; if one zombie discovers you chances are that the ruckus raised by the zombie (moaning, tripping, being shot, the like) will attract more zombies. In a siege warfare situation not only will th zombies continuously assault you without end because they do not tire, or have any strategic concepts. The chances that more zombies will be attracted to the event are phenominal. 100 zombies can become 1,000 zombies or more in a rather short amount of time.
There is also human error to keep in mind. Some humans are panicky and lfighty animals in dangrous situations and one person botlting at the wrong time will ruin even the best laid plans (think Waterloo and hundreds of other historical battles). In any siege, zombies hold the advantage.
Taking a car = bad idea! Cars are noisy, and often times large. In the event of a zombie attack millions, or billions, will take to thier cars and clog up the traffic lanes. It'd be for the zombies like eating sardines in a can; granted a tough can, but a can no less. A 10 speed mountain bike would be ideal, or an off road vehicle like an ATV or Dirt Bike would also be handy but noisy.

A few fears to alleviate also... the virus that infects human zombies is not contractable by animals in the same way, for some unknown reason the disease that reanimates humans kills all animals it comes into contact with. Many scientists beleive that this is because of certain proteins found only in the human brain, but no substantial proof exists yet.

Minaris firstly, I know you're strategy sounds good on paper but I am here to riddle it full of bullet holes (this is best for your personal survival).

Most commonly occuring undead are infected by a virus that causes the brain to reanimate, the presence of this virus even effects and kills other forms of virus and bacteria and therefore slows the time abody takes to rot. It has been estimated that it wold be more than 2 years before a zombie would tear and strain thier muscle structures enough to paralyze themselves based on normal zombie behavoral patterns (shamble about, kill, eat, rinse and repeat).
Zombies are not tactical thinkers but they do respond to sights and sounds, as such it is best to keep a low profile and remain mobile in high density zombie infested areas; if one zombie discovers you chances are that the ruckus raised by the zombie (moaning, tripping, being shot, the like) will attract more zombies. In a siege warfare situation not only will th zombies continuously assault you without end because they do not tire, or have any strategic concepts. The chances that more zombies will be attracted to the event are phenominal. 100 zombies can become 1,000 zombies or more in a rather short amount of time.
There is also human error to keep in mind. Some humans are panicky and lfighty animals in dangrous situations and one person botlting at the wrong time will ruin even the best laid plans (think Waterloo and hundreds of other historical battles). In any siege, zombies hold the advantage.
Taking a car = bad idea! Cars are noisy, and often times large. In the event of a zombie attack millions, or billions, will take to thier cars and clog up the traffic lanes. It'd be for the zombies like eating sardines in a can; granted a tough can, but a can no less. A 10 speed mountain bike would be ideal, or an off road vehicle like an ATV or Dirt Bike would also be handy but noisy.

A few fears to alleviate also... the virus that infects human zombies is not contractable by animals in the same way, for some unknown reason the disease that reanimates humans kills all animals it comes into contact with. Many scientists beleive that this is because of certain proteins found only in the human brain, but no substantial proof exists yet.

Oh... that isn't good then.

Hmm... No sieges then... or at least not as a good plan... :(

Oh... that isn't good then.

Hmm... No sieges then... or at least not as a good plan... :(

No sieges unless it is unavoidable. But your plan of going to the ruins isn't for naught, just try to avoid large scale zombie confrontations.

No sieges unless it is unavoidable. But your plan of going to the ruins isn't for naught, just try to avoid large scale zombie confrontations.

Trying to think of a good place to go around here...

Hard, considering the preponderance of commercial buildings.

Best to leave all densly populated areas as fast as posibel in case of zombie attacks. While cities, for all the available comforts in a small area, are great for human habitation. They also make great feeding sites for ravenous swarms of undead.

Best to leave all densly populated areas as fast as posibel in case of zombie attacks. While cities, for all the available comforts in a small area, are great for human habitation. They also make great feeding sites for ravenous swarms of undead.

So it would be good to head for the rural areas, then?

I'd have thought that, mostly, seiges would be unavoidable, as it'd be more difficult acting as a nomad and continously moving about. Your best bet would be to find yourself somesort of peninsular or island and just brick off (in the case of a peninsular) the next of land and mop up the occasional zombie that staggers ashore. Zombies'd hardly have enough force to push over a properly made wall.

I'd have thought that, mostly, seiges would be unavoidable, as it'd be more difficult acting as a nomad and continously moving about. Your best bet would be to find yourself somesort of peninsular or island and just brick off (in the case of a peninsular) the next of land and mop up the occasional zombie that staggers ashore. Zombies'd hardly have enough force to push over a properly made wall.

I'd attempt to find an island, large enough so that it's surrounded by tall cliffs with the sea at the bottom, and with a large amount of edible vegetation and animal life.

This would, in my eyes, be the only 100% way to make sure you can outlast a zombie outbreak.

Problem being, you'd have to know it would happen ahead of time so you could scout the sea and prepare the island for inhabitation (building a shelter, setting up a large camp).

I'd attempt to find an island, large enough so that it's surrounded by tall cliffs with the sea at the bottom, and with a large amount of edible vegetation and animal life.

This would, in my eyes, be the only 100% way to make sure you can outlast a zombie outbreak.

Problem being, you'd have to know it would happen ahead of time so you could scout the sea and prepare the island for inhabitation (building a shelter, setting up a large camp).

I'd go with a bomb shelter for a local method of security and probably an encampment off the river with a nice boat for a more distant safe area.

Since we can assume that zombies probably aren't the best swimmers (especially in trying to keep up with a 20'+ boat, of which we have plenty in the area) and we can safely say that fish will still be edible (the virus does not propagate amongst the animals), all that would remain is the quick gathering of supplies (especially bait and tackle) followed by boating to the nearest undeveloped shore of a river.

In WWZ, the zombies themselves only go after humans, and then only live humans. All the fish and whales were killed off by human flotillas as a source of food.

The main problem with trying to get away by boat/island, or really any other fortification or the like, is trying to vet survivors in case they have been bitten. In WWZ, the virus itself take roughly a day to kick-in and kill the person, if it's only a minor wound. If they're killed in the process of getting the disease or after they have been infected, they re-animate almost instantineous (too long a word for 23:30 after a couple of pints). Illustrated by the part in the book where the Ukranians use nerve gas to kill off refugees to force zombies to re-animate.

If we wall off the Roman Ramp, we can make Masada all but impenetrable. Of course, there's still the snake path, but that path is so narrow, half the zombies will die just from being pushed off by their comrades.

Zombie Survival Plan:


Stage 1: Survival

Step 1:immediately fill one backpack (just one) with essentials. Grab the best weapon availabe (preferably rifles or handguns, but knives work too.)
Step 2:Head for an agreed upon local meeting point. Take a head count. Hide, wait for 30 minutes.
Step 3:Take whoever is there and leave. Find a bus or large car, such as a hummer.
Step 4:Go to the nearest army base. Get either fast moving vehicles (humvees) or slower stronger ones (tank), but not both.
Step 5:Head for the largest, most isolated port you can find. Preferably a large naval one, or one that houses a large cruise ship.
Step 6:While searching for survivors, make your way onto the cruise ship. Then, get off the port as soon as possible. Hunt down zombies on the ship before going too far from port. If zombies are in overwhelming numbers, leave on life raft. If not, clear zombies and go to small port towns, gathering survivors and supplies.
Step 7: Build giant fortress on island, raiding mainland for supplies.

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Step 4:Go to the nearest army base. Get either fast moving vehicles (humvees) or slower stronger ones (tank), but not both.

Your national military is in the habit of giving away multi-million dollar engines of war?

Zombies are not tactical thinkers but they do respond to sights and sounds,

I'm thinking loudspeakers, maybe projector screens, and incendiary based remotely triggered explosives.

Zombie bait to help thin out the population if you have a secure exit route.

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It seems more like if there was a proper world-wide sort of apocalypse, rather than a virus that killed people and re-animated people as zombies. I doubt most people would be that successful if they tried to walk into a military base and tried to "borrow" an Abrams or Challenger II.

I lolled.

I've been looking for a good reason to post that pic, for quite a while. :D

It seems more like if there was a proper world-wide sort of apocalypse, rather than a virus that killed people and re-animated people as zombies. I doubt most people would be that successful if they tried to walk into a military base and tried to "borrow" an Abrams or Challenger II.

It's an epidemic of t3h zombie virus. All central order has been overrun first, which is a fitting end for order since it was getting to be that way anyway. :p

Zombie killing explained in an easy to remember song.

Shoot The Zombies - Songs To Wear pants To (http://www.suturesound.com/stwpt/tracks/0320_shoot_the_zombies.mp3)

Perhaps leading zombies into an alley and 'sniping them pretty badly' would wortk?

sadly i fear we are all misguided. if the day should come the large percentage of the world population will most likely become those brain craving rotting fiends. unfortunately, unless a person is already in place in say.... a space shuttle in orbit or mir, or an impenitrable underground fortress stocked with at least 5 years worth of food etc... then that person may as well walk into the street and cover themselves in ketchup... forget the movies, a fleash eating machine that runs on the primal instincts isnt going to give up because someone is in a fast car, its not going to give up because the wall is too high or the moat or river too wide. its going to keep coming. and as its friends and neighours turn up to see whats for dinner, you find yourself in a position where... you find you didnt store enough food, so the brave ones in the group have to go outside to scavenge. one gets bitten but doesnt tell his buddies, comes back in..turns then lets his mates in for supper... or the island you head for just off the coast seems ideal, however, from the mainland curious greedy eyes see lights at night, instinct tells them tham these lights are associated with those fleshy things on two legs that taste really good when you hit them over the head with a big rock, into the water they go. it takes time... but eventually the lights are a lot closer, and they feel solid ground under them once more as they walk towards the sound of snoring yummy fleshy things....
moral of the story.... become an astronaut its the only way to avoid the coming zombie apocolypse.

they rot away after a while, if someone could hold up till then I think they'd be ok.

What about eating the zombies not raw, but what do you think would happen if we tryed cooking zombie flesh, after all do on to others as they have done to you.

If we wall off the Roman Ramp, we can make Masada all but impenetrable. Of course, there's still the snake path, but that path is so narrow, half the zombies will die just from being pushed off by their comrades.

Any defense plan which depends upon having only one method of access is a defense plan which also means having only one method of egress.

Count me out on that one.

What about eating the zombies not raw, but what do you think would happen if we tryed cooking zombie flesh, after all do on to others as they have done to you.

The flesh from zombies even cooked is highly toxic. Its partially rotten and has all kinds of viruses and bacteria.

The flesh from zombies even cooked is highly toxic. Its partially rotten and has all kinds of viruses and bacteria.

Not to mention would possibly infect you with the zombieness.

I'd go to the nearest fortified point. A castle called castill Sohail. The sea is only 100/200 metres away. River nearby. Across the river a few shopping centres that can be raided for supplies.

On the way I'd stop at the local police or guarda civil station. Pick up any firearms i could find. Although never shot a gun, better to have than not.

At home i have a replica scimitar, plus i'm proficient with a range of knives from my cheffing days.

My apartment is only 2 minutes dive from the castle, all i'd have to do is get my girlfriend, baby and 2 cats a get there of course.

I'd go to the nearest fortified point. A castle called castill Sohail. The sea is only 100/200 metres away. River nearby. Across the river a few shopping centres that can be raided for supplies.

On the way I'd stop at the local police or guarda civil station. Pick up any firearms i could find. Although never shot a gun, better to have than not.

At home i have a replica scimitar, plus i'm proficient with a range of knives from my cheffing days.

My apartment is only 2 minutes dive from the castle, all i'd have to do is get my girlfriend, baby and 2 cats a get there of course.

Don't forget the cats.
If worse comes to worse you can cook and eat them.

Don't forget the cats.
If worse comes to worse you can cook and eat them.

Or you could use one of them for the famed "Cage" strategy or luring and killing Zombies, if you decide to go on the offensive.

Basically you place one of your cats in a cage and leave it in an easily visible location, and position your team in weapons range of the animal. You then pick off any zombies that come to try and devour the animal.

You have to consider, however, that not only does your cat have to be loud enough to attract attention, you have to make sure you have sufficient cover for your team. Also, make sure you're a good shot. Accidently shooting the cat, understandably, silences it, and is not good for attracting attention.

If employed right, this can work wonders. Zombies will continue to assault the cage regardless of casualties unless they discover anything more appetising i.e you, or the cat dies.

Don't forget the cats.
If worse comes to worse you can cook and eat them.

i'd hope not. i love them to bits. but you never know

i'd hope not. i love them to bits. but you never know

It's not important how much you love your cats! Are they or are they not suitable decoys or food supplies? Because unfortunately that's what it comes down to! :mad:

Lol joke.

Or you could use one of them for the famed "Cage" strategy or luring and killing Zombies, if you decide to go on the offensive.

Basically you place one of your cats in a cage and leave it in an easily visible location, and position your team in weapons range of the animal. You then pick off any zombies that come to try and devour the animal.

You have to consider, however, that not only does your cat have to be loud enough to attract attention, you have to make sure you have sufficient cover for your team. Also, make sure you're a good shot. Accidently shooting the cat, understandably, silences it, and is not good for attracting attention.

If employed right, this can work wonders. Zombies will continue to assault the cage regardless of casualties unless they discover anything more appetising i.e you, or the cat dies.

even better the caslte i'm talking about is this one (http://www.castillosnet.org/malaga/MA-CAS-015A1.shtml)
on the 4 page there a photo of the main gate. All i'd need to do is make enough noise, the zombies come up to the gate and then go for the head

Or you could use one of them for the famed "Cage" strategy or luring and killing Zombies, if you decide to go on the offensive.

Basically you place one of your cats in a cage and leave it in an easily visible location, and position your team in weapons range of the animal. You then pick off any zombies that come to try and devour the animal.

You have to consider, however, that not only does your cat have to be loud enough to attract attention, you have to make sure you have sufficient cover for your team. Also, make sure you're a good shot. Accidently shooting the cat, understandably, silences it, and is not good for attracting attention.

If employed right, this can work wonders. Zombies will continue to assault the cage regardless of casualties unless they discover anything more appetising i.e you, or the cat dies.




Zombies don't eat cats. Only humans.

even better the caslte i'm talking about is this one (http://www.castillosnet.org/malaga/MA-CAS-015A1.shtml)
on the 4 page there a photo of the main gate. All i'd need to do is make enough noise, the zombies come up to the gate and then go for the head

Damn that's a fine fortification there.

Here's mine: Blackness Castle (http://www.historic-scotland.gov.uk/blackness-top-right.jpg)

It's not important how much you love your cats! Are they or are they not suitable decoys or food supplies? Because unfortunately that's what it comes down to! :mad:

Lol joke.

no thats for people a i don't like. if its a matter of my daughter or the cats then the cats of course. but first the people i don't like.

Damn that's a fine fortification there.

Here's mine: Blackness Castle (http://www.historic-scotland.gov.uk/blackness-top-right.jpg)

nice. great water access. and as long as you've got a boat you can move pretty freely.

also you got to think long term. Even if a zombie can only live say a month without food. How long would it take for the infection to die out? a year? 2?

you have to have a renewable source of food. arrable land, fishing grounds, etc... And these need to be very near to your fortifications in order to be able to retreat at very short notice

nice. great water access. and as long as you've got a boat you can move pretty freely.

Indeed. The plan is, get a boat moored at the pier of the castle. Use it as a supply vessel and escape craft. If the castle's ever overrun somehow, we get to the nearest North Sea Oil Rig.

Apparently my nearest castles is this: Old Wardour Castle (http://www.army.mod.uk/img/ukpep/where/boscombe_down/bd_old_wardour_castle.jpg)
Doesn't look very promising, I might go to Hereford I know of a few castles over there.

Apparently my nearest castles is this: Old Wardour Castle (http://www.army.mod.uk/img/ukpep/where/boscombe_down/bd_old_wardour_castle.jpg)
Doesn't look very promising, I might go to Hereford I know of a few castles over there.

Hmmm. I could see zombies charging at that broken wall, and making a ramp with thier brethren. They'd swarm right over that short wall you can see in the picture.

Zombies don't eat cats. Only humans.

And only until their jaw falls off or their digestive system is damaged beyond regeneration.

Zombies don't eat cats. Only humans.

Zombies are known to eat other animals, if human flesh cannot be found.

And only until their jaw falls off or their digestive system is damaged beyond regeneration.

But that won't stop them from trying.

Is it just me, or would running through a horde of zombies and slashing them with a sword be the best shit ever?

Is it just me, or would running through a horde of zombies and slashing them with a sword be the best shit ever?

That would be the most awesome way to commit suicide/prevail valiently ever. That is, next to running them all over in an MBT.

That would be the most awesome way to commit suicide/prevail valiently ever. That is, next to running them all over in an MBT.

Nah, vehicles are still too easy... At least, I'm assuming you mean a vehicle by "MBT". A sword, or any melee weapon, would be the most ridiculous and incredible way to go about it. Worthy of Odin, I'd say.

A sword, or any melee weapon, would be the most ridiculous and incredible way to go about it. Worthy of Odin, I'd say.

Looking to die in Glorious Battle? You need a trident, my friend.

Looking to die in Glorious Battle? You need a trident, my friend.

Not looking to die, but if I did, it'd be the best way to go down... Charging a horde of zombies with a bladed weapon in hand.

Now a trident, that would be a hell of a challenge. :D

Nah, vehicles are still too easy... At least, I'm assuming you mean a vehicle by "MBT". A sword, or any melee weapon, would be the most ridiculous and incredible way to go about it. Worthy of Odin, I'd say.

Oh sorry. MBT as in Main Battle Tank. An old Soviet model would be the best. Incredible weight combined with very durable metal treads. Just plough right through 'em.

Of course it's hardly practical as a mode of transportation. Completely impregnable it may be, but not a lot of fuel.

Oh sorry. MBT as in Main Battle Tank. An old Soviet model would be the best. Incredible weight combined with very durable metal treads. Just plough right through 'em.

Of course it's hardly practical as a mode of transportation. Completely impregnable it may be, but not a lot of fuel.

Ah, so it'd be like a round of Ikari Warriors, then. You hop in your tank, run amok for a minute or two, and then jump out and hope to somebody's god that you don't run into any bad spots, or (gasp) drop your weapon. :p

Ah, so it'd be like a round of Ikari Warriors, then. You hop in your tank, run amok for a minute or two, and then jump out and hope to somebody's god that you don't run into any bad spots, or (gasp) drop your weapon. :p

Oh no, don't be silly. I'd be making a bee-line out of whatever zombie horde I'd stumbled across, and then only when the last drop of fuel had ran out, then I'd get out. I wouldn't be stupid enough to rumble around inside the body of the horde.

Nope, I'd get out of there as soon as I could. Then, if I've managed to leave the horde in the proverbial dust, get out and start walking.

Oh no, don't be silly. I'd be making a bee-line out of whatever zombie horde I'd stumbled across, and then only when the last drop of fuel had ran out, then I'd get out. I wouldn't be stupid enough to rumble around inside the body of the horde.

Nope, I'd get out of there as soon as I could. Then, if I've managed to leave the horde in the proverbial dust, get out and start walking.

Sounds good, but throwing really bad records at them would be better.

Sounds good, but throwing really bad records at them would be better.

I really need to actually watch that film sometime...

Sounds good, but throwing really bad records at them would be better.

Batman soundtrack?

Toss it!

I really need to actually watch that film sometime...

Eh.

It was funny, and I liked the idea, but that fat guy was irritating and kept fucking things up, not to mention the whole idea was stupid (Go to a bar? First-level, large window-having, completely undefended bar?).

Good popcorn flick, but not so much when you really stop to think about it as an actual zombie movie, rather than a movie pretending to be a zombie movie.

Shaun Of The Dead is funnier if you're English.

Shaun Of The Dead is funnier if you're English.

must be. I found it hilarious. By far one of the best zombie films ever

must be. I found it hilarious. By far one of the best zombie films ever


Yeah, same. I thought it were bloody awesome. (no pun intended)

must be. I found it hilarious. By far one of the best zombie films ever

Same here, and I'm American.

Though of course, I am of (limited) English descent. Could be a factor, eh? :p

Same here, and I'm American.

Though of course, I am of (limited) English descent. Could be a factor, eh? :p

hey i'am Australian and i like it

hey i'am Australian and i like it

so your a brit with a tan.


;)

Is it just me, or would running through a horde of zombies and slashing them with a sword be the best shit ever?

A flame sword. It has to be a flame sword...

But yeah. That and a couple grenades or something...

so your a brit with a tan.


;)

no born here so i out class them ;)

Hmm, you know? I've just thought of this. If the Zombie outbreak only started in one area, say India (just random place) and eventually spread. AND if the world realized the threat. The best thing to do would be to basically shut in the continent/area. That means shooting any ships or planes that come since they could have the virus or a hiding zombie. Assuming we didn't know how it started. If Australia or an island, or hard to enter nation wasn't infected and became aware of the problem, the could survive quite a while I'd say.

Also, a fault with the whole the zombies would follow a boat thing is, if the water was deep enough, they'd surcome to pressure like any other thing. Although you'd have to admit, a pressure crushed bobbing zombie (assuming they decayed enough to generate enough boyancy) would be kinda new.

As for my plan of action: If they are in my area, fudge, I'm committing suicide. No saving the neighbors baby from a zombie, sorry. I live in the suburbs by the way so if they were next door, I'm screwed.

no born here so i out class them ;)


Chase: "I'm Australian."
House: "You put the Queen on your money. You're British."

;)

I know I'm repeating myself, but the book you have to read to work out how the world would cope with a zombie epidemic is World War Z: An Oral History. It is a fucking awesome book, and the fact is it so could happen (politically, discounting the idea of the dead rising) it's unbelievable.

I know I'm repeating myself, but the book you have to read to work out how the world would cope with a zombie epidemic is World War Z: An Oral History. It is a fucking awesome book, and the fact is it so could happen (politically, discounting the idea of the dead rising) it's unbelievable.

And how did it all work out then?

Buy the book,only Max Brooks could describe it in it's entireaty and to full effect.

Buy the book,only Max Brooks could describe it in it's entireaty and to full effect.

I meant end damages.

A flame sword. It has to be a flame sword...

But yeah. That and a couple grenades or something...

No, it has to be a regular blade, not anything fancy or magical. And no explosives.

Extra help would take the manliness out of it.

No, it has to be a regular blade, not anything fancy or magical. And no explosives.

Extra help would take the manliness out of it.

I wasn't going for manliness. I was going for an awesome way to go out in the zombie world.

question for the zombie fans.

first the zombie is dead (i know duh!). But what does mean, normally they talk about the corpse being re-animated. So it has a working nervous system? blood still pumping or has it coagulated? Do the zombies still need the same vitamins/minerals/proteins/carbs to survive? or is it just braaaaiiiinnnnsss? Also what about water?

I live in a dry, hot climate. so would zombies even be a problem after a month or 2? due to what 45ºd sun/heat can do to a body. would they just go really stiff and snap?
What about in places like norway? would'nt they just become frosty the zombie?

I meant end damages.

Still hard to say because it has a central story but many segments, you really are better off reading the book, it's a genuine work of art.

I live in a dry, hot climate. so would zombies even be a problem after a month or 2? due to what 45ºd sun/heat can do to a body. would they just go really stiff and snap?
What about in places like norway? would'nt they just become frosty the zombie?
Heh, they'd become zombie-mummies. Yeah, they'd probably go all dessicated and snap. Same would probably go for the zombies in the north, but they'd freeze instead.

etc...

question for the zombie fans.

first the zombie is dead (i know duh!). But what does mean, normally they talk about the corpse being re-animated. So it has a working nervous system? blood still pumping or has it coagulated? Do the zombies still need the same vitamins/minerals/proteins/carbs to survive? or is it just braaaaiiiinnnnsss? Also what about water?

I live in a dry, hot climate. so would zombies even be a problem after a month or 2? due to what 45ºd sun/heat can do to a body. would they just go really stiff and snap?
What about in places like norway? would'nt they just become frosty the zombie?

1st. No Zombies do not need any kind of sustanance, they merely feel the base need to eat, uncontrolably. a Zombie will eat until they burst from the inside out much like a goldfish or some dogs. They nervous system does work, but only the portion devoted to motor skills and only at reduced efficiency.

2nd. I dunno.. good question...