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In Speech, John Edwards Denounces War On Terror

LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 19:23
IN SPEECH, JOHN EDWARDS DENOUNCES WAR ON TERROR, CALLING IT A 'BUMPER
STICKER' SLOGAN

That showed up in my inbox abit more than an hour ago.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275028,00.html

Yes I know it is Fox News but so far, they are the only ones carrying this.

What are your thoughts about the War on Terrorism.
Free Soviets
23-05-2007, 19:28
first off, that ain't the title that even fox gives the article. secondly, edwards' statement is factually true.
Bolol
23-05-2007, 19:29
IN SPEECH, JOHN EDWARDS DENOUNCES WAR ON TERROR, CALLING IT A 'BUMPER
STICKER' SLOGAN

That showed up in my inbox abit more than an hour ago.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275028,00.html

Yes I know it is Fox News but so far, they are the only ones carrying this.

What are your thoughts about the War on Terrorism.

Comrade, you don't want to know what I think of the "War on Terror". I would rant on for hours, likely landing the both of us in the hospital due to massive cerebral hemoraging.
Desperate Measures
23-05-2007, 19:29
In speech, John Edwards says what his supporters want him to say.
Sumamba Buwhan
23-05-2007, 19:29
IN SPEECH, JOHN EDWARDS DENOUNCES WAR ON TERROR, CALLING IT A 'BUMPER
STICKER' SLOGAN

That showed up in my inbox abit more than an hour ago.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275028,00.html

Yes I know it is Fox News but so far, they are the only ones carrying this.

What are your thoughts about the War on Terrorism.

I think that it is obvious that he isn't against fighting terrorism, but against the way Bush uses the phrase and the way he is going about this 'war on terror'

To say that Edwards denounces the war on terror is pretty misleading.

I think the fight against terrorism is something to take seriously (just as drunk driving or domestic abuse needs to be taken seriously) but the tactics need to be rethought.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 19:31
first off, that ain't the title that even fox gives the article. secondly, edwards' statement is factually true.

That is what came across in my email box. I just used it for the title. I stated as such in my OP.
Free Soviets
23-05-2007, 19:34
That is what came across in my email box. I just used it for the title. I stated as such in my OP.

and you get these emails from who, exactly?
The Nazz
23-05-2007, 19:35
What are your thoughts about the War on Terrorism.

It's a bumper sticker slogan, and always has been. You can't fight a tactic, and I've been saying it since the "war" started. You can fight terrorists, and you can fight al Qaeda, but you can't fight terror any more than you can fight daylight bombing raids.
Drunk commies deleted
23-05-2007, 19:36
It's a well known fact that when John Edwards, or for that matter any democrat, gets elected they will immediately convert to Islam, give Osama a presidential medal of freedom, and personally strip all of your kids naked then drape a burqua over them. These kinds of articles are just telling us stuff we already know.
New Manvir
23-05-2007, 19:41
IN SPEECH, JOHN EDWARDS DENOUNCES WAR ON TERROR, CALLING IT A 'BUMPER
STICKER' SLOGAN

That showed up in my inbox abit more than an hour ago.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275028,00.html

Yes I know it is Fox News but so far, they are the only ones carrying this.

What are your thoughts about the War on Terrorism.

Good, let John Edwards speak his mind. and I agree with him....
CanuckHeaven
23-05-2007, 19:44
That is what came across in my email box. I just used it for the title. I stated as such in my OP.
Then you are a shill? :p
OcceanDrive
23-05-2007, 19:48
What are your thoughts about the War on Terrorism.I think its a BUMPER Sticker SLOGAN.

Why?
Remote Observer
23-05-2007, 19:53
Edwards Pledges To Support War On Terror ('http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/23/flashback-video-edwards-pledges-unity-throughout-this-war-on-terrorism/')

Oh, I guess he doesn't honor pledges.
Remote Observer
23-05-2007, 19:55
Al Qaeda Video Shows War On America ('http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/new_al_qaeda_ta.html')
SimNewtonia
23-05-2007, 20:00
Nah, they've just had a very consistent misprint over the past few years, replace ON with the word "OF".

The War of Terror is about two things: Oil, and power.
Sane Outcasts
23-05-2007, 20:02
Edwards Pledges To Support War On Terror ('http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/23/flashback-video-edwards-pledges-unity-throughout-this-war-on-terrorism/')

Oh, I guess he doesn't honor pledges.
What pledge? All that clip shows is an opinion expressed by Edwards six years ago.
New Manvir
23-05-2007, 20:04
Edwards Pledges To Support War On Terror ('http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/23/flashback-video-edwards-pledges-unity-throughout-this-war-on-terrorism/')

Oh, I guess he doesn't honor pledges.

A politician isn't honouring a pledge? STOP THE PRESSES!!
Remote Observer
23-05-2007, 20:04
What pledge? All that clip shows is an opinion expressed by Edwards six years ago.

I guess he doesn't want to go the distance. Or, the first clip is just him lying about how he'll support a war on terror.
Cannot think of a name
23-05-2007, 20:07
Al Qaeda Video Shows War On America ('http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/new_al_qaeda_ta.html')

BOOGITY BOOGITY BOOGITY BOO!

Scared yet?
Remote Observer
23-05-2007, 20:08
BOOGITY BOOGITY BOOGITY BOO!

Scared yet?

Ah, you don't believe that al-Qaeda exists...
Sane Outcasts
23-05-2007, 20:09
I guess he doesn't want to go the distance. Or, the first clip is just him lying about how he'll support a war on terror.

Go the distance? What distance? Full, unwavering support of a President that screwed the pooch in two different countries in pursuit of a war on an abstract concept?

If you actually watched the clip, and it doesn't look like you did, O'Reilly asked Edwards if he thought the Democrats would suppirt Bush if the War on Terror widened to other countries, and Edwards responded he thought that they would. Edwards maked no pledges, no agreements, only delivers an opinion that every other politician was delivering a month after Sept. 11.
Bosco stix
23-05-2007, 20:11
I denounce it too, because its a war on Islam. I haven't seen the US declare war on abortion clinic bombers, the IRA, ETA, or other terrorist organizations that are not islamic.
Remote Observer
23-05-2007, 20:13
Go the distance? What distance? Full, unwavering support of a President that screwed the pooch in two different countries in pursuit of a war on an abstract concept?

If you actually watched the clip, and it doesn't look like you did, O'Reilly asked Edwards if he thought the Democrats would suppirt Bush if the War on Terror widened to other countries, and Edwards responded he thought that they would. Edwards maked no pledges, no agreements, only delivers an opinion that every other politician was delivering a month after Sept. 11.

Looks like he believed the War on Terror was real.

Which one is it? Or is he like Hillary, who votes for a war, and then says, "oh they lied to me, and I was so fucking stupid then that you should vote for me now"
Cannot think of a name
23-05-2007, 20:14
Ah, you don't believe that al-Qaeda exists...

Please note where I said this.
Remote Observer
23-05-2007, 20:15
Please note where I said this.

Your post where you said it was just a boogeyman.
Cannot think of a name
23-05-2007, 20:17
Looks like he believed the War on Terror was real.

Which one is it? Or is he like Hillary, who votes for a war, and then says, "oh they lied to me, and I was so fucking stupid then that you should vote for me now"

Seems more akin to, "We tried it your way, you fucked it all to hell so it's time to do something new." It'd be nice if Bush could learn from mistakes but if he can't it's time for someone who can.
Cannot think of a name
23-05-2007, 20:17
Your post where you said it was just a boogeyman.

That post said nothing of the kind. Please refresh your reading skills.
Bosco stix
23-05-2007, 20:18
Ah, you don't believe that al-Qaeda exists...

They didn't until the US gave a name to them.
Sane Outcasts
23-05-2007, 20:18
Looks like he believed the War on Terror was real.

Which one is it? Or is he like Hillary, who votes for a war, and then says, "oh they lied to me, and I was so fucking stupid then that you should vote for me now"

I'd say he is one of the many Americans that has seen things go from bad to extremely fucked up over the last six years, all in pursuit of a "war on terror" that has had us attacking more governments that terrorist organizations. If Bush had actually used his sympathetic Congress and military oversight to persecute terrorists all over the globe, instead of making a token coup in Afghanistan and rebuilding Iraq after tearing it apart, then maybe politicians wouldn't be changing their tunes. Do you really expect an inept leader to retain his support after years of screw-ups?
Newer Burmecia
23-05-2007, 20:27
I denounce it too, because its a war on Islam. I haven't seen the US declare war on abortion clinic bombers, the IRA, ETA, or other terrorist organizations that are not islamic.
Don't get me wrong, I don't support the 'War on Terror' (tm) either, but that is a little unfair. The USA did, for example, involve itself in the Balkans through NATO when Muslims in Kosovo and Bosnia were threatened with ethnic cleansing and genocide by Slobodan Milošević. I don't really think that America is out to destroy Islam by any account, as much as I don't think Islam is out to destroy America.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 20:37
It's a well known fact that when John Edwards, or for that matter any democrat, gets elected they will immediately convert to Islam, give Osama a presidential medal of freedom, and personally strip all of your kids naked then drape a burqua over them. These kinds of articles are just telling us stuff we already know.

What is your proof of this?
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 20:38
Then you are a shill? :p

Or someone reporting election news from various candidates?
Dobbsworld
23-05-2007, 20:39
He's right, it's a slogan - a slogan too many people have had their lives ruined to uphold.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 20:41
I denounce it too, because its a war on Islam. I haven't seen the US declare war on abortion clinic bombers, the IRA, ETA, or other terrorist organizations that are not islamic.

Only a fool would consider what is going on to be a war on Islam. If this was a war on Islam, we would have attacked Muslim holy places in Riyhad and Mecca.
Dobbsworld
23-05-2007, 20:42
Only a fool would consider what is going on to be a war on Islam. If this was a war on Islam, we would have attacked Muslim holy places in Riyhad and Mecca.

And only a fool would regard the War on "Terror" as such.
Sumamba Buwhan
23-05-2007, 20:49
Edwards Pledges To Support War On Terror ('http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/23/flashback-video-edwards-pledges-unity-throughout-this-war-on-terrorism/')

Oh, I guess he doesn't honor pledges.

And what in the article in teh OP makes you think that John Edwards doesn't want to fight terrorism? Did you fall for the misleading thread title or something?
The Nazz
23-05-2007, 20:56
It's a well known fact that when John Edwards, or for that matter any democrat, gets elected they will immediately convert to Islam, give Osama a presidential medal of freedom, and personally strip all of your kids naked then drape a burqua over them. These kinds of articles are just telling us stuff we already know.

You forgot molesting them and giving them a case of teh gay.
Hynation
23-05-2007, 21:00
To end the cycle of violence that perpetuates itself in our world I feel we should declare a war on war
Newer Burmecia
23-05-2007, 21:16
You forgot molesting them and giving them a case of teh gay.
As well as forcing all babies born to white, god-fearing families to have abortions.
Forsakia
23-05-2007, 21:29
Looks like he believed the War on Terror was real.

Which one is it? Or is he like Hillary, who votes for a war, and then says, "oh they lied to me, and I was so fucking stupid then that you should vote for me now"

Or someone who's seen the war on terror go amazingly badly thinks "The situation has changed, maybe forming a new opinion that might make improve things might be better than sticking with a proven bad, old one just so I can pretend I'm never wrong".
New Granada
23-05-2007, 21:33
Spot on.

At least he has the guts to call it what it is.
Gravlen
23-05-2007, 21:54
Only a fool would consider what is going on to be a war on Islam. If this was a war on Islam, we would have attacked Muslim holy places in Riyhad and Mecca.

Though it's easy to use the happenings as propaganda to make it seem like a war on Islam - so the war on terror is indeed feeding the propaganda machine of the other side...
Zagat
23-05-2007, 23:54
Of course 'the war on terror' is a slogan/catchphrase. It is meant to stimulate certain responses and although it seemed to me at the outset that one would have to be very simple and reactive to manipulated by it, it's been surprisingly effective across a surprisingly broad and surprisingly large range of people, for a surprisingly long time.

It beggars belief to be entirely honest.
Gauthier
24-05-2007, 00:56
And what in the article in teh OP makes you think that John Edwards doesn't want to fight terrorism? Did you fall for the misleading thread title or something?

You should know by now that Kimchi scrabbles for any flimsy pretense that "proves" anyone speaking out against the will of Beloved Dear Leader Bush George-Dubya is an American Hating Gay Islamofascist Liberal.
Aryavartha
24-05-2007, 04:29
What are your thoughts about the War on Terrorism.

War for PNAC.
Soviestan
24-05-2007, 04:52
What are your thoughts about the War on Terrorism.

Not something you can win with the barrel of a gun. The spark that has led to the global Jihadist movement is the idea that Muslims and the Islamic way of life are under threat by the west, mainly the US. As such, extremists have launched attacks namely 11/9 as a response.

Since then the US, Britian and others have invaded and occupied two Muslim countries, fueling terrorism and terrorists. If you want to win this "war" show those that feel the west is a threat that it's not. In addition states most focus on border and internal security to prevent attacks.
Muravyets
24-05-2007, 05:13
Looks like he believed the War on Terror was real.

Which one is it? Or is he like Hillary, who votes for a war, and then says, "oh they lied to me, and I was so fucking stupid then that you should vote for me now"
And it looks like you're pulling crap out of your ass -- again. Referring to all your posts so far, show us precisely where Edwards ever made any "pledges" concerning the so-called war on terror. Show us where anyone here denied the existence of al Qaeda. Show us where Edwards ever claimed that he didn't think the "War on Terror" was real. He does think it's real -- i.e. real bullshit. Then show us where Hillary Clinton every claimed to be so stupid that she deserves to be voted for. And while you're at it, account for the relative stupidity of all the Republicans who have since come out against Bush's war.

Edwards is right. "War on Terror" is nothing but a propaganda phrase designed to excite emotions and by-pass thought among the public. It does nothing but muddy the issue of terrorism and serves no purpose but to confuse the public as to the nature of Bush's policies. Plus, it's dumb. It should be abolished immediately.
Maineiacs
24-05-2007, 06:40
And it looks like you're pulling crap out of your ass -- again. Referring to all your posts so far, show us precisely where Edwards ever made any "pledges" concerning the so-called war on terror. Show us where anyone here denied the existence of al Qaeda. Show us where Edwards ever claimed that he didn't think the "War on Terror" was real. He does think it's real -- i.e. real bullshit. Then show us where Hillary Clinton every claimed to be so stupid that she deserves to be voted for. And while you're at it, account for the relative stupidity of all the Republicans who have since come out against Bush's war.

Edwards is right. "War on Terror" is nothing but a propaganda phrase designed to excite emotions and by-pass thought among the public. It does nothing but muddy the issue of terrorism and serves no purpose but to confuse the public as to the nature of Bush's policies. Plus, it's dumb. It should be abolished immediately.

Don't you see? Of course his words are true. RO didn't merely say those things because they're true, they're true because he said them. Didn't you know that that's how that works?
Sumamba Buwhan
24-05-2007, 18:00
You should know by now that Kimchi scrabbles for any flimsy pretense that "proves" anyone speaking out against the will of Beloved Dear Leader Bush George-Dubya is an American Hating Gay Islamofascist Liberal.

Oh I do know but it's kinda fun to egg him on. I like to try to get him to explain himself and then sit back and watch everyone attack his arguments.
Bottle
24-05-2007, 18:01
IN SPEECH, JOHN EDWARDS DENOUNCES WAR ON TERROR, CALLING IT A 'BUMPER
STICKER' SLOGAN Edwards deserves no praise for stating the obvious.