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Anybody ever wasted all their time and effort on some kind of project, only to have it completely ruined by a malevolent corporation/idiotic person?

I've been posting videos on YouTube since march, and I just had one of my favourite and most popular ones forcibly removed because I had music in the background, and the record company sued for copy right infringement. WTF? It's a f.cking video blog; it's not like I'm making money off of them. I spent hours making that video, and it's all for sh.t because of some goddamn company. What are they going to do next, make it illegal to sing copyrighted songs in the shower?

What are they going to do next, make it illegal to sing copyrighted songs in the shower?

Yes...Soap up to silence!...oh and don't forget to wash behind your ears

While I sympathize, the only remotely related situation I deal with, and regularly, is having to can story ideas when I find out about already-published novels that have generally the same plot.

I've gotten as far as about 25 full pages into a project before having to drop it.

What are they going to do next, make it illegal to sing copyrighted songs in the shower?
Only if you tape it and put it on YouTube . . .

i would be severely pissed off too. copyright is evil.

WTF? It's a f.cking video blog; it's not like I'm making money off of them. I spent hours making that video, and it's all for sh.t because of some goddamn company.

Some goddamn company who actually own the rights to the piece of music, unlike your good self.

Dry your eyes.

Only if you tape it and put it on YouTube . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBERjkeO2aA

Like this?...now thats some awkward YouTube

Anybody ever wasted all their time and effort on some kind of project, only to have it completely ruined by a malevolent corporation/idiotic person?

I've been posting videos on YouTube since march, and I just had one of my favourite and most popular ones forcibly removed because I had music in the background, and the record company sued for copy right infringement. WTF? It's a f.cking video blog; it's not like I'm making money off of them. I spent hours making that video, and it's all for sh.t because of some goddamn company. What are they going to do next, make it illegal to sing copyrighted songs in the shower?

Sadly, you have to ask for the rights to use the song, even if you're not making a profit. Chances are, they'll let you do it free of charge... You just have to credit the proper people.

Days go by, and lessons are learned.

copyright is evil.

Have you ever made anything worth stealing?

Have you ever made anything worth stealing?

I bet, no....

Anybody ever wasted all their time and effort on some kind of project, only to have it completely ruined by a malevolent corporation/idiotic person?

I've been posting videos on YouTube since march, and I just had one of my favourite and most popular ones forcibly removed because I had music in the background, and the record company sued for copy right infringement. WTF? It's a f.cking video blog; it's not like I'm making money off of them. I spent hours making that video, and it's all for sh.t because of some goddamn company. What are they going to do next, make it illegal to sing copyrighted songs in the shower?

Sad but True. I know alot of sites that are issued C&D's (Cease and Desist) for posting transcripts. Transcripts of shows that the poster makes. they didn't download anything nor did they buy a script and re-write it, but they wrote it out according to what they saw on the shows. and the stations that own the transcripts can sue for copywrite infringement. and this is off of shows they aired, over broadcast T.V. and the person doing it also does not profit.

Pretty lame. Sorry to hear about that

Sadly, you have to ask for the rights to use the song, even if you're not making a profit. Chances are, they'll let you do it free of charge... You just have to credit the proper people.

Days go by, and lessons are learned.

I did credit them (the artist, at least). It was basically advertisement.

Have you ever made anything worth stealing?

having music playing in the background of a video blog is hardly stealing. copyright litigation is way out of control.

Some goddamn company who actually own the rights to the piece of music, unlike your good self.

Dry your eyes.

The record companies didn't create the music. They just exploited the artists who did.

having music playing in the background of a video blog is hardly stealing. copyright litigation is way out of control.

Avoiding the question? Damn right.

Avoiding the question? Damn right.

the results of my dissertation could conceivably be used and profitted from if published.

The record companies didn't create the music. They just exploited the artists who did.

1.) All artists are now exploited by the record companies now, are they?
2.) Whether the artists own the music or whether the record company does depends upon the exact nature of the publishing contract that was created between the two.
3.) In these days where the monolithic major labels are collapsing at ever increasing rates, only to have their places taken by independent labels and cartels of smaller companies, the division between company and artist is becoming more and more blurred.
4.) No one forced any artist to sell their songs to a company - yeah, sure there a couple of well documented cases of writers making really bad choices, but they are the exception rather than the rule.

Record companies didn't create the music but they did pay for the rights to the music. Thus they own it.

and if you did post it and someone did steal it for their own use and profit (which doesn't have to be monitary) you would be well within your rights to take legal action.


Paid like five fricking cents. I still don't get how this is "stealing". I'm not claiming the music as my own or making a profit off of it. I just put it in the f.cking background so I could make a blog secretly while my mother was in the other room. Jesus Christ.

the results of my dissertation could conceivably be used and profitted from if published.

And so you consider I would be within my rights to do so?

The record companies didn't create the music. They just exploited the artists who did.

yeah, exploition that gets them filthy rich and allows them to live their fake publicized lives that every Tom Dick & Harry love to read about because. they cant afford fake lives of their own....good point buddy.:upyours:

yeah, exploition that gets them filthy rich and allows them to live their fake publicized lives that every Tom Dick & Harry love to read about because. they cant afford fake lives of their own....good point buddy.:upyours:

Most musicians are not filthy rich and famous. Believe me, I've had friends and family members try to make it in the industry. Most of them are starving unknowns who would probably be excited that somebody actually listened to them.

Record companies didn't create the music but they did pay for the rights to the music. Thus they own it.

and if you did post it and someone did steal it for their own use and profit (which doesn't have to be monitary) you would be well within your rights to take legal action.

perhaps, i doubt i'd bother though. besides, publishing someone elses academic paper as your own and profiting from it is not even nearly equivalent to having someone's song playing in the background of a video blog, where it has been credited even.

And so you consider I would be within my rights to do so?

see my post above.

Most musicians are not filthy rich and famous. Believe me, I've had friends and family members try to make it in the industry. Most of them are starving unknowns who would probably be excited that somebody actually listened to them.

ok my bad most good musicians.

perhaps, i doubt i'd bother though. besides, publishing someone elses academic paper as your own and profiting from it is not even nearly equivalent to having someone's song playing in the background of a video blog, where it has been credited even.

perhaps not to you or me, but obviously some lawyer thinks so.

but hey, if Terrorist Cakes wants to fight it in court, he can.

ok my bad most good musicians.

No, there are plenty of very talented musicians who don't get discovered, and plenty of completely banal ones that do. The music industry is not a simple math equation where talent=success. There are so many more factors affecting it.

Most musicians are not filthy rich and famous. Believe me, I've had friends and family members try to make it in the industry. Most of them are starving unknowns who would probably be excited that somebody actually listened to them.

so now, next time you know. ask them for a recording to put on your blog and credit THEM for it. ;)

Anybody ever wasted all their time and effort on some kind of project, only to have it completely ruined by a malevolent corporation/idiotic person?

I've been posting videos on YouTube since march, and I just had one of my favourite and most popular ones forcibly removed because I had music in the background, and the record company sued for copy right infringement. WTF? It's a f.cking video blog; it's not like I'm making money off of them. I spent hours making that video, and it's all for sh.t because of some goddamn company. What are they going to do next, make it illegal to sing copyrighted songs in the shower?

I just knew I had seen you someone else.

I was sure you were lonelygirl15

Most musicians are not filthy rich and famous. Believe me, I've had friends and family members try to make it in the industry. Most of them are starving unknowns who would probably be excited that somebody actually listened to them.

You can play my band's song on your video blog if you like. It's a win win. Whoever watches your blog hears us.

perhaps not to you or me, but obviously some lawyer thinks so.

but hey, if Terrorist Cakes wants to fight it in court, he can.

I'm female, and I'm not taking it to court. I'm just frustrated and angry, because I wasted my time on a video that we'll either have to be completely deleted, or completely re-made, which will take hours.

I was of the impression that you could only sue for copyright infringement if they make a profit off of it, however, clearly I am wrong.

But, that should be the law. Using someone else's work without making a profit is fine, but if you make money off of it, thats stealing. This is assuming you paid for it in the first place... not paying for it is stealing anyways.

You can play my band's song on your video blog if you like. It's a win win. Whoever watches your blog hears us.
here you go. written permission (which should be done with real names instead of NS ones. :p) and you can flick your finger at the record industry at the same time! ;)

I'm female, and I'm not taking it to court. I'm just frustrated and angry, because I wasted my time on a video that we'll either have to be completely deleted, or completely re-made, which will take hours.

oops, sorry. :p

but seriously, if you have friends and family who write and perform their own music. use theirs. then the RIAA can't touch you while you promote them. ;)

heck, I can see a soundtrack to your blog.

You can play my band's song on your video blog if you like. It's a win win. Whoever watches your blog hears us.

Sure, if you want.

No, there are plenty of very talented musicians who don't get discovered, and plenty of completely banal ones that do. The music industry is not a simple math equation where talent=success. There are so many more factors affecting it.

yeah....sure...Why don't we just say the real reason music sucks these days, the govt is hiding space aliens in the annals of Arizona.....that right.

yeah....sure...Why don't we just say the real reason music sucks these days, the govt is hiding space aliens in the annals of Arizona.....that right.

What the hell are you on about? Are you trying to say that all talented people get discovered, and that if you don't make it big, you suck?

Sure, if you want.

www.myspace.com/theshadowssmilex

say good bye to a lot of vibeos on youtube then

What the hell are you on about? Are you trying to say that all talented people get discovered, and that if you don't make it big, you suck?

wow, are you waiting for me to reply so you can reply back, cause thats how it seems...man, or rather, woman, the govt kidnaps potential stars and replaces them with aliens so that they can integrate with society and form famillies that will eventually drown out the human race. Youre friends and fammily are not who they say they are....If you look closely youll notice they are missing their middle toe...thats the common trait of the norudians of the qualataalnti region in universe x....its a conspiracy manA conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

What the hell are you on about? Are you trying to say that all talented people get discovered, and that if you don't make it big, you suck?

oh, and yeah, thats what im saying.

I KNOW YOU CAN SEE THIS!!!!!!!RESPOND:upyours:

I KNOW YOU CAN SEE THIS!!!!!!!RESPOND:upyours:

I've seen your posts on other threads; are you trying to get forumbanned?

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what on earth are you doing?

what on earth are you doing?

I'd been giving rebuttals to most of his posts, and now he's angry that I didn't respond to one or two.

I've seen your posts on other threads; are you trying to get forumbanned?

yes.

I'd been giving rebuttals to most of his posts, and now he's angry that I didn't respond to one or two.

angry? you have it all wrong, I just discovered the fact that i could increase the size of my letters to get attention...you seem to take things to seriously, may i suggest a relaxing day at the spa