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At least one billion people risk fleeing their homes over the next four decades because of conflicts and natural disasters that will worsen with global warming, a relief agency warned Monday.

In a report, British-based Christian Aid said countries worldwide, especially the poorest, are now facing the greatest forced migration ever -- one that will dwarf those displaced by World War II.

[...]

It said the conflict in western Sudan's Darfur region, which has displaced more than two million people, was not just driven by political forces but also by competition for increasingly scarce water and land to graze animals.

"Security experts fear that this new migration will fuel existing conflicts and generate new ones in the areas of the world -- the poorest -- where resources are most scarce," said a statement accompanying the report.

"A world of many more Darfurs is the increasingly likely nightmare," it added.

The problem is all the more alarming as those displaced in their own countries have no rights under international law and no official voice, it added.


Article here (http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/news/science/20070514-Christian-Aid-climate-refugees.html). We all need a sharp reminder from time to time.

Article here (http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/news/science/20070514-Christian-Aid-climate-refugees.html). We all need a sharp reminder from time to time.

Don't You Know....Climate Change is just a myth made up by a fringe group of leftists, called scientists............but seriously, 1 billion people....HOLY SH*T!!

The article says that 1 billion people are at risk of displacement, not that 1 billion will be displaced. Sure, it's still an obscenely large and terrifying number but it's not quite as obscene and terrifying as the title suggests.

Well they'd better make arrangements for someplace else to go because they're not moving in with me.

Well they'd better make arrangements for someplace else to go because they're not moving in with me.

It'll be like a gigantic sleep over though! Won't that be fun?...:)

Due to conflicts and natural disasters made worse by global warming. Mein Gott, can you imagine Iraq being worse?!

if the water rises just 6 meter (wich iirc they said it would if greenland melts) i'll be living at the coast.
I'm already preparing myself to hoodwink (that word should be used more often) some tourists.

on a more serious note: :eek: :( :mad:

There's probably plenty of room for them in France and Germany. That's where most refugees seem to go. :)

Well they'd better make arrangements for someplace else to go because they're not moving in with me.
Oh, come now ... you're always in our hearts and thoughts.
Why not seal/consummate the deal?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12681348&postcount=5

Article here (http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/news/science/20070514-Christian-Aid-climate-refugees.html). We all need a sharp reminder from time to time.
A sharp reminder of how the global warming alarmists like to spread fear and panic without any regard for science or open debate? Yes we do.

Ten bucks says the world doesn't do shit about it.

It'll be like a gigantic sleep over though! Won't that be fun?...:)

The private island in the Phillipines that I'm buying with part of Il Ruffino's million dollar gift is only twenty acres. The sailing yacht I'm buying to ferry tourists to my island is only a 50 footer. It's just logistically impossible.

Provided they don't immigrate here, or impose upon me, I don't give a flying fuck. Anything proposed by the EU in this context will be ineffectual, given that China, India and, I imagine, Russia, will give the EU a big FU.

Ten bucks says the world doesn't do shit about it.

I know I'm not planning to do anything about it.

I don't believe this. seriously. And to be frank, any-one who believe that global warming will continue until the industrial revolution is un-done is either branwashed or just plain stupid.

And no, I was not paid by some oil company to say this.

I don't believe this. seriously. And to be frank, any-one who believe that global warming will continue until the industrial revolution is un-done is either branwashed or just plain stupid.

And no, I was not paid by some oil company to say this.

No no no. You're the other sort of global warming sceptic.... you know, that nasty capitalist dude always hassling the workers for bread man....:D

The private island in the Phillipines that I'm buying with part of Il Ruffino's million dollar gift is only twenty acres. The sailing yacht I'm buying to ferry tourists to my island is only a 50 footer. It's just logistically impossible.

You have 20 days to make it possible, or at least before that 1 billion people come knocking on you door, and yes...you will need to provide the cheetos

You have 20 days to make it possible, or at least before that 1 billion people come knocking on you door, and yes...you will need to provide the cheetos

True enough in a way. Refugees from Marxist governments will always be with us for as long as people are foolish enough to allow Communist and Socialist governments to exist. :)

And the last judgements will kill twice that many.

I don't believe this. seriously. And to be frank, any-one who believe that global warming will continue until the industrial revolution is un-done is either branwashed or just plain stupid.

And no, I was not paid by some oil company to say this.

Or is that just what you want us to think....hmmmm....

I don't believe this. seriously. And to be frank, any-one who believe that global warming will continue until the industrial revolution is un-done is either branwashed or just plain stupid.

And no, I was not paid by some oil company to say this.
I second this.

True enough in a way. Refugees from Marxist governments will always be with us for as long as people are foolish enough to allow Communist and Socialist governments to exist. :)

Who said anything about Marxism? I'm saying DCD better have Cheetoes...or there will be hell to pay...

Who said anything about Marxism? I'm saying DCD better have Cheetoes...or there will be hell to pay...

One mustn't neglect the Frosted Flakes either.

True enough in a way. Refugees from Marxist governments will always be with us for as long as people are foolish enough to allow Communist and Socialist governments to exist. :)

where did that come from? how do Cheetos = Communism?

And the last judgements will kill twice that many.

Oooooh, scary. Let's all cower, shall we?

One mustn't neglect the Frosted Flakes either.

umm..no...Frosted Flakes are Fascist...remember the 1939 White Frosting Rallys?

I don't believe this. seriously. And to be frank, any-one who believe that global warming will continue until the industrial revolution is un-done is either branwashed or just plain stupid.

And no, I was not paid by some oil company to say this.

QFT

This whole bit reminds me of the "Ice Age" scare that I had drummed into my head in school in the 70's.

where did that come from? how do Cheetos = Communism?

Didn't you ever notice that Chester Cheetah wears KGB glasses?

Oooooh, scary. Let's all cower, shall we?

Both ideas are about as equal in the BS department.

where did that come from? how do Cheetos = Communism?

It's interesting that *you* would think Cheetos = Communism. I would have thought Arm and Hammer Baking soda would be more of that alignment myself. :p

In any event, Hynation was speaking about "a billion people come knocking at your door" and I was agreeing with him that was not impossible given the fact that there are idiots like Hu and Mugwabe and Castro who still push Marxism. Whenever a Socialist government takes root you will always have emigrants because only the fools who rule such a place would ever want to stay. :)


umm..no...Frosted Flakes are Fascist...remember the 1939 White Frosting Rallys?

Oh my! I completely forgot about that! :eek:

But wasn't Tony an integral part of the New Deal with the great Sugar Bailouts of the WPA? o_O

Oh, no, there is a minute possibility that a number of people equivalent to the population of Uzbekistan might theoretically be at a slight risk of potentially being displaced every year! Who cares?

Oh, no, there is a minute possibility that a number of people equivalent to the population of Uzbekistan might theoretically be at a slight risk of potentially being displaced every year! Who cares?

Alot of people?

Oh my! I completely forgot about that! :eek:

But wasn't Tony an integral part of the New Deal with the great Sugar Bailouts of the WPA? o_O

No no that was Lucky the leprechaun he also re-stabalized the Cereal Economy and brought poverty level below the 10% level, and the Sugar Bailouts were a fabrication by the Cinnamon Life Party's chairman Mikey to perpetuate their not so sugary agendas.

Tony was appointed high chancellor of Sugarland after Lucky was assasinated by Captian Crunch in 1923...It was a dark day indeed...

Tony would eventually be taken out of power when a coalition between Booberry and Frankenberry invaded in 1944 effectivley sending Tony's regime into a downward spiral...Tony would later commit suicide in his bunker in 1945, and afterwards sugary cereals were no longer allowed to have frosting untill the 1948 Breakfast of Champions movement introduced the peaceful yet still Nationalistic Wheaties. With a much more Liberal party Honey Nut cheerios to come about in 1956, since then they've been bogged down in their sugary goodness so much that they completely ignored the bad wheat epidemic in the 1980's god...dnt u know anything..:p

course the monsoon rains are getting less and less stable so I guess that means soon we can have billions of malnourished refugees! :(

*imagines a Billion Paris Hilton's after my camera*

Alot of people?

Too bad for them, then; personally, I could care less.

Too bad for them, then; personally, I could care less.

So much for helping out those in need.

i have already started to stockpile dirt and plants to take with me when the flood happens. thats going to be some valuable stuff.

i have already started to stockpile dirt and plants to take with me when the flood happens. thats going to be some valuable stuff.

dirt will be valuable...well what an awkward turn of events for the economy...perhaps in the near future dirt may be used as currency

No no that was Lucky the leprechaun he also re-stabalized the Cereal Economy and brought poverty level below the 10% level, and the Sugar Bailouts were a fabrication by the Cinnamon Life Party's chairman Mikey to perpetuate their not so sugary agendas.

Tony was appointed high chancellor of Sugarland after Lucky was assasinated by Captian Crunch in 1923...It was a dark day indeed...

Tony would eventually be taken out of power when a coalition between Booberry and Frankenberry invaded in 1944 effectivley sending Tony's regime into a downward spiral...Tony would later commit suicide in his bunker in 1945, and afterwards sugary cereals were no longer allowed to have frosting untill the 1948 Breakfast of Champions movement introduced the peaceful yet still Nationalistic Wheaties. With a much more Liberal party Honey Nut cheerios to come about in 1956, since then they've been bogged down in their sugary goodness so much that they completely ignored the bad wheat epidemic in the 1980's god...dnt u know anything..:p

Damn Booberry and Frankenberry always taking credit for stopping Tony, you do know that Count Chockula opened up an Eastern Front too...right? :p

I spoke with Jesus and he says of those 1 billion at risk, a total of around 50,000 will actually be displaced.

I spoke with Jesus and he says of those 1 billion at risk, a total of around 50,000 will actually be displaced.

Now if I can actually believe this...

So much for helping out those in need.

If you really want to help people, you must allow them to help themselves. Otherwise, they will become overly dependent on your helping hand and refuse to labor in order to better their condition and become weak and despondent. By giving aid, you are only worsening the situation.

If you really want to help people, you must allow them to help themselves. Otherwise, they will become overly dependent on your helping hand and refuse to labor in order to better their condition and become weak and despondent. By giving aid, you are only worsening the situation.

One should always help those who are in need and displaced people are certainly in need.

Damn. A stunning reminder of the tangibility of climate change, and of the desperate need to control our population, lest nature do it for us and in far nastier ways. Honestly, where are 1 billion people going to go?

If you really want to help people, you must allow them to help themselves. Otherwise, they will become overly dependent on your helping hand and refuse to labor in order to better their condition and become weak and despondent. By giving aid, you are only worsening the situation.

This is the "forced to toke up the whole pack after daddy caught me with the smoke" childhood speaking, i'm sure.
:rolleyes:

Honestly, where are 1 billion people going to go?
Soylent Green?

No no that was Lucky the leprechaun he also re-stabalized the Cereal Economy and brought poverty level below the 10% level, and the Sugar Bailouts were a fabrication by the Cinnamon Life Party's chairman Mikey to perpetuate their not so sugary agendas.

Tony was appointed high chancellor of Sugarland after Lucky was assasinated by Captian Crunch in 1923...It was a dark day indeed...

Tony would eventually be taken out of power when a coalition between Booberry and Frankenberry invaded in 1944 effectivley sending Tony's regime into a downward spiral...Tony would later commit suicide in his bunker in 1945, and afterwards sugary cereals were no longer allowed to have frosting untill the 1948 Breakfast of Champions movement introduced the peaceful yet still Nationalistic Wheaties. With a much more Liberal party Honey Nut cheerios to come about in 1956, since then they've been bogged down in their sugary goodness so much that they completely ignored the bad wheat epidemic in the 1980's god...dnt u know anything..:p
QFT.

And the last judgements will kill twice that many.
Wha- AHAHAHAAHAHHAHA HO HO hee *snort* HA HA HA HA HA HOHOHOHAHA!
...et cetera.

Oooooh, scary. Let's all cower, shall we?

Confucious say:
Man who fart in church sit in own pew.

Both ideas are about as equal in the BS department.

Other than the completely one-sided issue of evidence, sure.
:rolleyes:

Soylent Green?

... It's PEOPLE!

I don't believe this. seriously. And to be frank, any-one who believe that global warming will continue until the industrial revolution is un-done is either branwashed or just plain stupid.

And no, I was not paid by some oil company to say this.You probably also weren't paid by anyone with scientific background to say it either. That would likely include yourself.

As Seinfeld was saying, how would you like it if scientists went to your work and started heckling you? :)

... It's PEOPLE!

Mmmm, 21st century. What a bouqet!

Ten bucks says the world doesn't do shit about it.

Instead of people being "inconvenienced" by extreme climate issues, the same amount of people should be "inconvenienced" about their phone/contact service.
Ten bucks would be spent, methinks.

*circles December 21, 2012 on a calendar*

*circles December 21, 2012 on a calendar*

Mulder!

Project: End Game

The article says that 1 billion people are at risk of displacement, not that 1 billion will be displaced. Sure, it's still an obscenely large and terrifying number but it's not quite as obscene and terrifying as the title suggests.

If even a quater or a fifth or a 16th of that number were actually displaced it would still be massively obscene.

Oh, no, there is a minute possibility that a number of people equivalent to the population of Uzbekistan might theoretically be at a slight risk of potentially being displaced every year! Who cares?

Of course, because people don't matter...

If you really want to help people, you must allow them to help themselves. Otherwise, they will become overly dependent on your helping hand and refuse to labor in order to better their condition and become weak and despondent. By giving aid, you are only worsening the situation.

You know, the argument "Give a man and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime" doesnt really work when there is a stiuation that the man in question doesnt have enough energy left to survive for the time it would take to teach them without that fish. Are you really going to be teaching people about flood defences when their car is floating down the street?

I don't believe this. seriously. And to be frank, any-one who believe that global warming will continue until the industrial revolution is un-done is either branwashed or just plain stupid.


Whether or not global warming will continue or it is man made or natural or various other situations etc is of no consequence as to whether or not these people will be displaced