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Polonium-210 killer should face trial

Rubiconic Crossings
22-05-2007, 13:07
So what are the odds of this happening? Prosecution that is...

I'd say a big fat 0

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6678887.stm

Russian faces Litvinenko charge

A former KGB officer should be charged with the murder by poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko, the UK's director of public prosecutions has recommended.

Sir Ken Macdonald said Andrei Lugovoi, who has denied any involvement, should face trial for the "grave crime".

Mr Litvinenko, 43, an ex-FSB agent and a critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin, died in London last November.

Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said she had told the Russian ambassador that she expected "full co-operation".

However, the Russian prosecutor-general's office has said it will not hand over Mr Lugovoi, the Interfax news agency reported.

Lord Goldsmith, the Attorney General, said he agreed with the decision by the Crown Prosecution Service, which had been arrived at after consultation with him.

Mr Litvinenko, who was granted political asylum in the UK in 2000 and went on to take British citizenship, died at University College Hospital on 23 November.

He had been exposed to the radioactive isotope polonium-210.

Sir Ken told a news conference: "I have today concluded that the evidence sent to us by the police is sufficient to charge Andrei Lugovoi with the murder of Mr Litvinenko by deliberate poisoning.

"I have further concluded that a prosecution of this case would clearly be in the public interest.

"In those circumstances, I have instructed CPS lawyers to take immediate steps to seek the early extradition of Andrei Lugovoi from Russia to the United Kingdom, so that he may be charged with murder - and be brought swiftly before a court in London to be prosecuted for this extraordinarily grave crime."

Mr Litvinenko's widow Marina said that she welcomed the decision.

She said: "I am now very anxious to see that justice is really done and that Mr Lugovoi is extradited and brought to trial in a UK court."

The counter-terrorism command of the Metropolitan Police has been conducting a detailed international investigation into Mr Litvinenko's death.

The police inquiry, during which officers followed a trail of polonium radioactivity at a series of locations visited by Mr Litvinenko in London before he died, eventually took them to Moscow.

His friends, including London-based Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky, have accused the Kremlin of ordering his assassination but the Russian government has rejected such claims.

Diplomatic relations between Russia and the UK have been strained by the case.

BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera said it was hard to see how Mr Lugovoi could be extradited given Moscow's attitude.

The Prime Minister's official spokesman said that the Foreign Office permanent under-secretary had met with the Russian Ambassador to "underline that they should comply with the extradition request".

He added the government has "left nobody in any doubt at all as to the seriousness with which we view this case".
Newer Burmecia
22-05-2007, 13:14
I wonder how cooperative the Russians will be about this?
Call to power
22-05-2007, 13:20
just what we need another chance to make the Russians feel threatened.
I V Stalin
22-05-2007, 17:42
"Polonium-210 killer should face trial"

Yeah, anyone who kills a Polonium isotope should go to jail. ;)
Dosuun
22-05-2007, 17:44
Nah, it's a conspiracy. Everyone knows Poloniumis good for you. Makes you stronger and clears out the sinuses it does.
Andaluciae
22-05-2007, 18:16
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6678887.stm
Kryozerkia
22-05-2007, 18:19
Like Russia is going to extradite someone to stand trial? :rolleyes: When pigs fly!
Hoyteca
22-05-2007, 19:00
Russia's still hopelessly stuck in the Cold War. Must be lonely because everyone else left the Cold War. The day Russia exits its Cold War mindset is the day Jesus comes to start a nuclear war because God isn't allowed to just flood it anymore. You have to start a nuclear war.

Don't worry. What's his face, Patterson or whoever that churchy guy is, won't make it to heaven. He might go to hell, but even Satan has standards.

Yeah, Russia's stuck in the Cold War. Nutjobs.
SaintB
22-05-2007, 19:27
Just expose him to Polonium 210...
If he gains super powers he's innocent, if he dies he's guilty. :D
Hydesland
22-05-2007, 19:30
If he gains super powers he's innocent, if he dies he's guilty. :D

If he's innocent then we have an ex KGB agent with super powers. Surely you don't think he would actually use his powers for good?
Schwarzchild
22-05-2007, 19:46
I have mused recently why Putin sounds a lot like the Spanish word "Puta."

I hope the British do not expect to be given this man for trial. It already smacks of Russian government involvement and one thing Mr. Putin does not want is yet another lengthy, embarassing episode in his Presidency. He has enough of them already.

What if Putin ordered the assassination of Litivenko? Nothing can really be done in theory, and in practice the best Her Majesty's government can do is declare the Russian Ambassador persona non grata and ship his butt back to Moscow and order the Russian Embassy closed.

It is highly unlikely Mr. Blair, lacking a spine already would be willing to escalate the tensions that exist between the Kremlin and No. 10.

JC
Rubiconic Crossings
22-05-2007, 21:02
"Polonium-210 killer should face trial"

Yeah, anyone who kills a Polonium isotope should go to jail. ;)

Oh phooey LOL ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6678887.stm

errrr?

I have mused recently why Putin sounds a lot like the Spanish word "Puta."

I hope the British do not expect to be given this man for trial. It already smacks of Russian government involvement and one thing Mr. Putin does not want is yet another lengthy, embarassing episode in his Presidency. He has enough of them already.

What if Putin ordered the assassination of Litivenko? Nothing can really be done in theory, and in practice the best Her Majesty's government can do is declare the Russian Ambassador persona non grata and ship his butt back to Moscow and order the Russian Embassy closed.

It is highly unlikely Mr. Blair, lacking a spine already would be willing to escalate the tensions that exist between the Kremlin and No. 10.

JC

Well don't forget that Pooty Poot will no longer be Pres soon (of course whether or not he releases the reigns of power is another issue).

I doubt anyone expects the Russians to hand the guy over for a few reasons...one being that it could well lead back to the Kremlin.

Crazy shit....
SaintB
22-05-2007, 21:53
If he's innocent then we have an ex KGB agent with super powers. Surely you don't think he would actually use his powers for good?

We all know that any American Superhero eats KGB Superheroes for breakfast... don't you read comics?

Like Ironman vs Dynamo
Or Captain America vs Anyone Not a Nazi
The Infinite Dunes
22-05-2007, 21:57
I dunno about Blair and co not getting involved. I'm pretty sure they'd want to be seen as doing their best to enforce the rule of law after they were recently lambasted by the OECD for the whole BAE systems crap.

Relations between Europe and Russia seem to be pretty low at the moment, what with the energy crisis instigated by Russia last year, and their bullying of one of the newer members of the EU over a statue. So on that level you can see Britain being fairly happy to throw in their lot as well and say they don't like Russia.
The blessed Chris
22-05-2007, 22:59
hmmm..... The iron political will and stoicism of New Labour against Putin? My word, can't you just feel the tremors from the Kremlin as we write?:rolleyes:

If, as expected, Putin simply tells Blair to bugger off, I would wholly support him. An example of how to protect one's national interests to which others might attempt to adhere.
[NS]I BEFRIEND CHESTNUTS
23-05-2007, 01:16
It would be a bit hypocritical for us to complain about Russia's refusal to extradite the guy when we've been doing the exact same thing. We give safe haven to Chechen terrorists, most notably Akhmed Zakayev and have refused repeated extradition requests. So I can't really blame the Russians for telling us to get lost.
Rubiconic Crossings
25-05-2007, 19:34
Here's a twist...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20070525/tuk-uk-britain-russia-litvinenko-lugovoy-fa6b408.html

UK rejects Russian offer to try Litvinenko suspect
Reuters
Reuters - Friday, May 25 03:33 pm

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia said on Friday it would consider trying the chief suspect in the murder of Alexander Litvinenko in its courts but Britain rejected the offer, saying the trial should take place on British soil.

Russia has refused to hand over to Britain Andrei Lugovoy, a former KGB officer who met Litvinenko on the day he fell ill, setting the former Cold War foes, now tied by billions of dollars of trade, on a diplomatic collision course.

In an apparent gesture of conciliation, Russian Prosecutor General Yuri Chaika said he had told Attorney General Lord Peter Goldsmith that Lugovoy would be tried in Russia if London supplied enough evidence.

"If the British side present us with evidence of Lugovoy's guilt and we consider it sufficient then he can be prosecuted," a spokeswoman quoted him as saying in Munich at a meeting of Group of Eight justice and interior ministers.

But Goldsmith said in a statement that he had told Chaika in Munich that he expected Russia to extradite Lugovoy.

"This murder was committed on UK soil, the evidence is in the UK, a UK citizen was killed and other people put at risk and it is therefore right a suspect should face justice in a UK court," the statement said.

"I have impressed on Mr Chaika that we are seeking and expect constructive and rapid cooperation from the Russian authorities in bringing this suspect before a British court."

Lugovoy said on Friday when Reuters contacted him by telephone: "I cannot say anything right now."

Russian prosecutors have said they cannot extradite Lugovoy as the constitution forbids the extradition of Russian citizens.

Litvinenko died in a London hospital on November 23 after ingesting a fatal dose of polonium 210, a highly toxic radioactive isotope.

A former Russian security service officer who obtained British citizenship, Litvinenko said in a message read by his associates after his death that the Kremlin was behind his poisoning.

Russian prosecutors opened their own investigation into Litvinenko's death and what they said was the attempted murder of Dmitry Kovtun, who along with Lugovoy met Litvinenko at the Millennium Hotel in Grosvenor Square on Nov 1.

Litvinenko complained of feeling ill later that day and was admitted to hospital shortly afterwards.

Yuri Skuratov, a former Russian prosecutor general, said in a newspaper interview this week that it was highly unlikely Lugovoy would ever be put on trial in Russia.

(Additional reporting by Mark Trevelyan in London)
Barringtonia
26-05-2007, 03:08
If they send in the dastardly Luguvoy to assassinate Litvinenko through such devious means, we need to send in the charming James Bond to assassinate Luguvoy.

It's quite simple.

Call for Q! We need an Aston Martin on the double!