NationStates Jolt Archive

For a while now I whenever I was bored, I worked a little bit on this quiz. During that time it turns out that the website that hosts it has some drawbacks, particularly in the way questions impact the end result and the length of the questions.

I tried to step around the usual problems, not making it immediately obvious what a question leads to, but it's difficult.

What I would really like would be an expert system or something that works like a tree, asking you really general questions to start with which then lead you to more and more specific ones. But alas, this website doesn't support it.

So here's my fairly long political quiz. The gag is not so much in the final result as in the combinations of results you get. I think that tells people more about what you believe than just the first choice. I also tried adding a reference to some book or author because I initially made the quiz for people who basically have little knowledge of political economy or political science.

Have a go: http://quizfarm.com/test2.php?q_id=353986

Its a pretty good quiz. I've never taken one of these quizzes and had it tell me what I believe in the economy, aside from socialism, communism, capitalism etc. etc.

I gave it a 5.

Apparently I am an Anarcho-Syndicalist.

Anarcho-Communist 88%

Fairly accurate, I suppose. The categories seem a bit strange though.

I deliberately chose 'strongly disagree' for every option, and your quiz gave 0% in everything and called me a Stalinist. I've never been more insulted in my life. Is this your way of saying people who disagree with you are communists?

Is this your way of saying people who disagree with you are communists?
I would sue.

I thought it was pretty good. Obscure political/economic categories, but I guess that makes it more accurate than simply large categories.

Paleoconservative 100%

Christian Democrat 83%
It is strange, considering I chose "strongly disagree" for all religion-related questions...

Christian Democrat 83%
It is strange, considering I chose "strongly disagree" for all religion-related questions...

That's pretty strange. I took the test and chose "strongly agree" for everything, leading to a tiebreaker where I had to choose one issue that was most important to me. The one that produced Christian Democrat was "We should have compassion for others, and the economic system should reflect that." So perhaps if you selected agree or strongly agree for statements similar to that one it skewed your result.

You scored as Minarchism/Libertarianism.

You're a libertarian. You see the point of having a government, but you wish to see the understanding of itself change, from an all-powerful representation of society to just one cog in the motor that helps the free market function for the good of all. The writings of Milton Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics are for you, as is the Becker-Posner Blog at http://www.becker-posner-blog.com.

Sounds about right. :)

Anarcho-Communist - 71%

Minarchism/Libertarianism - 71%

WTF? :p

For a while now I whenever I was bored, I worked a little bit on this quiz. During that time it turns out that the website that hosts it has some drawbacks, particularly in the way questions impact the end result and the length of the questions.

I tried to step around the usual problems, not making it immediately obvious what a question leads to, but it's difficult.

What I would really like would be an expert system or something that works like a tree, asking you really general questions to start with which then lead you to more and more specific ones. But alas, this website doesn't support it.

So here's my fairly long political quiz. The gag is not so much in the final result as in the combinations of results you get. I think that tells people more about what you believe than just the first choice. I also tried adding a reference to some book or author because I initially made the quiz for people who basically have little knowledge of political economy or political science.

Have a go: http://quizfarm.com/test2.php?q_id=353986
The questions you ask seem somewhat one-dimensional and based on shallow clichés, don't they?

You scored as Minarchism/Libertarianism- 79%

That sounds right; I've definitely moved solidly in to the Monetarist camp recently, mainly because I consider it to be the most rational and effective of the big economic schools.

You scored as Fascist -88%.



You're a fascist. You believe that life and existence is a struggle, and we'd be better off all working together to succeed and survive. That also means that those who don't help should not be allowed to remain part of society, and that those who stand against the nation deserve no mercy, because mercy ultimately means weakness in the face of the natural struggle for survival. The nation is best represented by a strong leader, who can make quick decisions for everyone and mustn't hesitate in the face of adversity. Obviously books by Mussolini should be of interest to you.


Extremely accurate, I'll say that. Should I be concerned I'm a fascist, though? >.>

Science that contradicts the word of God doesn’t help anyone. It should be outlawed.

yeah, right...

I guess I'm a Anarcho-Syndicalist *complains about the blatant fascist hierarchy of mum and dad* :p

though Turkey joining the E.U had me, do you mean in the sense that because its not really European culturally (wrong?) or because it illegally holds Northern Cyprus/ hasn't bother to make the necessary reforms?

edit: I also got the same percentage for Anarcho-primitivism, but does that really mean stating domesticating say panda's is a morally wrong thing make me one?

You scored as Christian Democrat.



Christian Democrats believe in taking the middle way. They feel it is their duty to God to make life as good as possible for as many people as possible, while preserving progress and political and economic stablity. You're most likely comfortable in a centre-right position, especially in Europe, alongside people like Angela Merkel. Wilhelm Röpke and Alexander Rüstow should be worth a look.

you've managed to call me a christian... well done...

I think your test needs some work, especially if you give a religious label in addition to the political one...

You scored as Anarcho-Communist.

As an anarcho-communist, you not reject government and private property as two sides of the same coin - the coin of oppression. A free society cannot have either. Your authors count Bakunin and Marx among them.

Anarcho-Communist 88%
Christian Democrat 83%
Trotskyist 79%
Stalinist 75%
Fascist 67%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 67%
Paleoconservative 46%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 42%
Anarcho-Primitivist 21%
Nazi 17%
Anarcho-Capitalism 17%
Neoconservative 4%
Theocracy 4%


Nice and accurate, as far as I'm concerned. Gave it a 5.

you've managed to call me a christian... well done...

Christian democrat is the German version of the labour party, though it talks of morales it has more to do with welfare etc

and no it doesn't really have all that much to do with a particulates religion just the morales that all religions sadly seem to have in common

Christian democrat is the German version of the labour party, though it talks of morales it has more to do with welfare etc

and no it doesn't really have all that much to do with a particulates religion just the morales that all religions sadly seem to have in common

Examples: German CDU/CSU, former italian DC (democrazia cristiana) and DL-Margherita (Democrazia e Libertà).

Christian democrat is the German version of the labour party, though it talks of morales it has more to do with welfare etc

and no it doesn't really have all that much to do with a particulates religion just the morales that all religions sadly seem to have in common

yeah well, in any case, that test got me wrong, I have very little in common with religious 'morale'.

Anarcho-Capitalism 88%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 75%

Quite accurate. :)

It has too many questions.

And too many of them require me to think for a long time... I reckon it would take me an hour or so to complete that quiz.

yeah well, in any case, that test got me wrong, I have very little in common with religious 'morale'.

ah but you probably fit in with all of the polices but one, kind of like gay republicans :p

edit: I am having trouble however finding any of Proudhon's works :(

ah but you probably fit in with all of the polices but one, kind of like gay republicans :p

well, it's funny that during the elections I found myself agreing with the communist candidate and that all the other tests I've taken labelled me a lefty in some way, but this one says I'm center-right...

I'll have to go with the hypothesis that this test is inacurate (at least for me).

I'll have to go with the hypothesis that this test is inacurate (at least for me).

don't be so hasty this is center right by Northern European standards (also allot of the questions are trick ones ;))

Anarcho-Communist 83%
Anarcho-Primitivist 83%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 75%
Paleoconservative 63%
Trotskyist 63%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 50%
Stalinist 50%
Christian Democrat 42%
Fascist 38%
Anarcho-Capitalism 38%
Nazi 29%
Theocracy 21%
Neoconservative 4%

that got me about right, though I'd usually consider myself more of an anarcho-syndicalist I suppose anarcho-primitivist is perfectly accurate. I don't even know the different between anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism...

don't be so hasty this is center right by Northern European standards (also allot of the questions are trick ones ;))

yeah, but I'm a commie by french standards...

that got me about right, though I'd usually consider myself more of an anarcho-syndicalist I suppose anarcho-primitivist is perfectly accurate. I don't even know the different between anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism...

upon further reflection, anarcho-primitivist is dead on. my NS citizens are all living in trees -_-

upon further reflection, anarcho-primitivist is dead on. my NS citizens are all living in trees -_-

an anarcho-primitivist on the internet :confused:

an anarcho-primitivist on the internet :confused:

I'm horribly hypocritical. and I don't per se object to technology so much as I object to the steady march away from egalitarianism that technological progress and its subsequent economic specialization causes. my interest in esoteric knowledge comes before my political preferences anyway...ergo the internet > primitivism...though that's not to say I won't be homesteading eventually.

You weren't joking when you said it was a long quiz.

You scored as Paleoconservative.

You're a conservative in the original meaning of the word. You are sceptical when it comes to social engineering...we barely understand the simple things of life, how can we hope to grasp all the interactions going on within a society? Traditions and established practice exist for a reason and are the best thing we have to make society work, and radical change is best surpressed, because it will only end up causing harm. Authors like Edmund Burke are for you.

I'm horribly hypocritical. and I don't per se object to technology so much as I object to the steady march away from egalitarianism that technological progress and its subsequent economic specialization causes.

I'm intrigued are you suggesting that technology should avoid application wherever possible? from my rather brief knowledge of history even nomads managed to master complex things such as Brain surgery

either way you should have a pamphlet

ergo the internet > primitivism...though that's not to say I won't be homesteading eventually.

potato powered DIY computer? :p

A lot of the questions I found difficulty answering partly because ideas like school vouchers and fair tax are only American (I think).
Anarcho-Communist 83%
Anarcho-Primitivist 83%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 75%
Paleoconservative 63%
Trotskyist 63%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 50%
Stalinist 50%
Christian Democrat 42%
Fascist 38%
Anarcho-Capitalism 38%
Nazi 29%
Theocracy 21%
Neoconservative 4%

that got me about right, though I'd usually consider myself more of an anarcho-syndicalist I suppose anarcho-primitivist is perfectly accurate. I don't even know the different between anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism...
That's about what I got too although I got Anarcho-primitivist top. The internet might be technology but I'm not so much against technology in itself but using it too much and destroying the environment to do it.
(a)It's a form of obtaining information that does not force its views unlike a newspaper, tv or radio. You get to choose which webpages you look at.

(b) It's not gonna do any more harm me being on here because the computers are here for anyone at the uni to use if they want.

Hmm...
You're a Stalinist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a communist utopia. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into a brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute.

Stalinist 71%
Fascist 67%
Trotskyist 67%
Christian Democrat 67%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 63%
Anarcho-Communist 63%
I'd rather have the mass-murder and totalitarianism, to be honest :p

I think my results were affected because lots of the questions I picked the middle option after looking at them and thinking "meh" at best, or "uh?" at worst.

SNIP

are you planning on having a gang war with Vectrova? :p

Fascist was my second-place score, I'm sure we'll get along just fine :)

And oppress everyone else who opposes us!

You scored as Theocracy.



Religion is very real to you. In fact, God's presence in the world is so obvious that it just doesn't make sense to have a government that doesn't follow divine will. Combining high scores in Theocracy and Neoconservatism puts you comfortably in the right-wing of the US Republican party.

Theocracy

83%
Christian Democrat

79%
Neoconservative

63%
Anarcho-Capitalism

58%
Stalinist

54%
Fascist

46%
Paleoconservative

42%
Nazi

42%
Trotskyist

38%
Anarcho-Primitivist

33%
Minarchism/Libertarianism

29%
Anarcho-Communist

21%
Anarcho-Syndicalist

17%

definatly me:D

That's pretty strange. I took the test and chose "strongly agree" for everything, leading to a tiebreaker where I had to choose one issue that was most important to me. The one that produced Christian Democrat was "We should have compassion for others, and the economic system should reflect that." So perhaps if you selected agree or strongly agree for statements similar to that one it skewed your result.
Well, something I just noticed was that I didn't have normal lefties in there, ie social democracy or something. Which is a bit of an oversight, I guess. I initially figured that many belief systems would be combinations of these basic directions which I picked, but over the course of the days I seem to have forgotten about bits and pieces.

As for Christian Democracy, the basic premise is that society should be constructed in such a way as not to offend God horribly. It's not going as far as being theocratic (because tolerance and freedom are presumably things God likes), but a bit of morality and especially helping out those in need are necessities. That's what produced the Social Market Economy in various European countries (not socialists, as you would normally think).

though Turkey joining the E.U had me, do you mean in the sense that because its not really European culturally (wrong?) or because it illegally holds Northern Cyprus/ hasn't bother to make the necessary reforms?
Well, to be honest, I wasn't sure about a last question for Christian Democracy. I had the category, but I couldn't think of a last question, so I just figured "meh, pick something all Christian Democrats seem to agree on". Definitely a weak part though.

edit: I also got the same percentage for Anarcho-primitivism, but does that really mean stating domesticating say panda's is a morally wrong thing make me one?
Well, whether it's a panda or a cow doesn't make a difference on principle. Making other life serve our purposes is something that primitivists are sceptical about.

I'm intrigued are you suggesting that technology should avoid application wherever possible? from my rather brief knowledge of history even nomads managed to master complex things such as Brain surgery

either way you should have a pamphlet



potato powered DIY computer? :p

"What I object to is the craze for machinery, not machinery as such. The craze is for what they call labour-saving machinery. Men go on ‘saving labour’ till thousands are without work and thrown on the streets to die of starvation. I want to save time and labour, not for a fraction of mankind, but for all. I want the concentration of wealth, not in the hands of a few, but in the hands of all. Today machinery helps a few to ride on the backs of millions. The impetus behind it is not philanthropy to save labour, but greed." - Ghandi

throw some commentary on ecological sustainability and that describes my position pretty well.

Something tells me that having a few machines does not only make the lives of the workers easier, but also allows a greater number of people to educate themselves and move beyond factory work.

Anyways, I actually forgot to post my own results:
You scored as Minarchism/Libertarianism.

You're a libertarian. You see the point of having a government, but you wish to see the understanding of itself change, from an all-powerful representation of society to just one cog in the motor that helps the free market function for the good of all. The writings of Milton Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics are for you, as is the Becker-Posner Blog at http://www.becker-posner-blog.com.

Minarchism/Libertarianism 100%
Anarcho-Capitalism 75%
Paleoconservative 46%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 33%
Christian Democrat 33%
Trotskyist 29%
Neoconservative 29%
Anarcho-Communist 13%
Stalinist 4%
Fascist 4%
Anarcho-Primitivist 0%
Theocracy 0%
Nazi 0%

Minarchism/Libertarianism 71%
Christian Democrat 63%
Paleoconservative 54%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 50%
Trotskyist 50%
Stalinist 46%
Fascist 42%
Neoconservative 38%
Anarcho-Communist 38%
Anarcho-Capitalism 38%
Anarcho-Primitivist 25%
Nazi 25%
Theocracy 17%

My results:
You scored as Anarcho-Syndicalist.

As anarcho-syndicalist, you believe in the obvious and eternal conflict between workers and their bosses. It's obvious that the workers are producing all the value, so they should simply cut out the middle man and rule the world directly through their cooperatives. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon is an author you might want to have the look at if you haven't already.

Anarcho-Syndicalist 100%
Anarcho-Communist 92%
Stalinist 79%
Trotskyist 71%
Christian Democrat 67%
Anarcho-Primitivist 58%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 46%
Fascist 33%
Paleoconservative 29%
Anarcho-Capitalism 17%
Theocracy 17%
Neoconservative 13%
Nazi 8%

I was a bit worried when I saw Stalinist so high, but then I saw Compulsive Depression had a description for it and the description isn't so bad.

I was a bit confused about this question: "We should combine traditional European values and traditions with modern science and economics."
I wasn't sure what 'tradition European values' were.

edit: I am having trouble however finding any of Proudhon's works :(The Wikipedia article on him has a nice synopsis; it might lead you to something.

that got me about right, though I'd usually consider myself more of an anarcho-syndicalist I suppose anarcho-primitivist is perfectly accurate. I don't even know the different between anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism...Anarcho-syndicalism usually takes the form of trying to achieve anarcho-communism via labor unions as opposed to some other method.

the quiz is ok, it's weird that it doesn't have most moderate viewpoints in it (social democracy, greenism, liberalism, ...) but you do have both fascism and nazism on it, and you have stalinism and troskyism while you don't have marxism ...

but it is quite accurate i guess, although you can't really expect to much from an online quiz.


I'm intrigued are you suggesting that technology should avoid application wherever possible? from my rather brief knowledge of history even nomads managed to master complex things such as Brain surgery


i can assure you you don't want a nomad-brain surgery :p

but iirc primitivists only oppose 'technology' wich requires division of labor

Christian Democrat 83%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 79%

Very accurate to put libertarianism as number 2 but a centrist compromise as number 1. I think laissez faire capitalism with a minimal government would be utopia but it would never work well because the market isn't perfect so it doesn't fill all needs that could and must be filled. So unfortunately a socialistic government needs to collect taxes and fill in the gaps where the market fails.

However, many of the questions seemed to be facts rather then opinions. Stuff that anyone who knows anything about the topic in question, history or whatever, will know if it is true or false and their personal opinions won't change that fact. I found that confusing in a test that is meant to measure opinions and not knowledge.

You scored as Anarcho-Primitivist.

You believe that modern technology and changing the environment to suit us is unnatural. We should go back to live like we were meant to live originally, in the wilderness. Then we could experience true happiness of a kind our modern, autocratic society could never provide. Books by John Zerzan could be right up your alley.

Minarchism/Libertarianism 71%
Anarcho-Primitivist 71%
Paleoconservative 63%
Anarcho-Communist 63%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 58%
Stalinist 54%
Christian Democrat 50%
Trotskyist 50%
Anarcho-Capitalism 46%
Fascist 38%
Theocracy 25%
Nazi 21%
Neoconservative 13%

interesting. a bit less wide of the mark then usual. still no see-gar.

eco-socialist anarcho-pacafist. the problem with tecnology isn't its existence but how we use. and we could, would and should, use it to live 'closer to the land' WITHOUT having to give up all of our comforts or gratifications in order to do so. rather, our very survival may depend upon being much more honest withourselves about the harmoniousness or lack of it, of the real priorities we actualy live by, with nature's cycles of renewal, then is currently dominently popular to be.

nor is my concept one of "going BACK" at all. but one of continuing to develop tecnology, as is our nature to do, but also of developing and deploying that tecnology in such ways as are harmoniously compatable with nature's cycles of renewal upon which all existence, including our own utterly depends.

exactly what an economics that self-isolates itself from that reality is moving us almost exactly in the bone headed opposite direction from.

the biggist obstical to world peace, civil rights, personal freedom, and the avoidance of mutual environmental suicide, the whole bloody lot, is the demonizing of everything that refuses to kiss the ass of little green pieces of paper and associating everything that does with either lazyness, marxism, or some combination of the two. that and nor remembering how to do anything other then destroy.

the combination of mom and pop retailing and unionized infrastructure, also thanks in part to f.d.r's 'socialism', worked well for a time, and many other combinations we have yet to immage can and will too, but the corporate mafia is humanity, and possibly all life on earth's, quite probable undoing.

there is no denying the complexity of the problem that is human society, but the tecnical fixes to the immediat crises are relatively simple, reasonably well known, and thoroughly proven, though generally considered 'alternative' and not widely implimented. what isn't yet so simple, is how to make that transition to them, our collective, both survival, but beyond survival, real universal opportunity for gratification, ultimately depends upon.

governments don't create freedom. and killing each other certainly doesn't.
only not robbing each other of it can do that.

but they do need to be kept bussy justifying their existence with welfare and infrastructure, because without doing so they don't just simply go away, and neither does the burden of carrying their continued existence.

an idle government is one which launches wars to prevent people from realizing how unneccessary it has become.

=^^=
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Christian Democrats believe in taking the middle way. They feel it is their duty to God to make life as good as possible for as many people as possible, while preserving progress and political and economic stablity. You're most likely comfortable in a centre-right position, especially in Europe, alongside people like Angela Merkel. Wilhelm Röpke and Alexander Rüstow should be worth a look.

Christian Democrat 79%

Trotskyist 58%

Anarcho-Syndicalist 58%

Anarcho-Communist 58%

Minarchism/Libertarianism 50%

Anarcho-Primitivist 50%

Stalinist 50%

Paleoconservative 46%

Anarcho-Capitalism 42%

Fascist 38%

Nazi 25%

Theocracy 13%

Neoconservative 13%





...Christian Democrat? Duty to God? Centre-right?

That absolutely couldn't be more wrong.

...Christian Democrat? Duty to God? Centre-right?

That absolutely couldn't be more wrong.
Yeah, I can't help but think there should have been room for a centre-left ideology...

Like it said in the OP, answering the questions was far more interesting than the results. Im not happy with being a paleo-<anything> but here's mine:

Paleoconservative 83%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 67%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 63%
Anarcho-Primitivist 63%
Anarcho-Communist 58%
Trotskyist 58%
Fascist 50%
Christian Democrat 50%
Nazi 46%
Theocracy 25%
Stalinist 25%
Anarcho-Capitalism 21%
Neoconservative 8%

Given that I chose the middle option to any question I found ridiculous or incomprehensible, I'm happy with that.

That I don't come up as 95% Hippy I put down to a certain bias in the poll measurement. :p

Oh, and there's equal parts of Fascist and Christian Democrat in me. I must address this problem when next I have the birch handy :D

Trotskyist83%
Anarcho-Communist83%
Fascist79%
Anarcho-Syndicalist67%

:rolleyes:

You scored as Anarcho-Capitalism.



You're an anarcho-capitalist. You think that people know what's best for themselves and absolutely no one can tell them otherwise. You can take care of yourself, and you expect everyone else to do the same. You're happy to help others, but only because you want to, not because you're compelled to do it. Ludwig von Mises, David Friedman and Ayn Rand should be authors you enjoy.

Anarcho-Capitalism

92%

Trotskyist

75%

Minarchism/Libertarianism

71%

Paleoconservative

63%

Fascist

63%

Anarcho-Syndicalist

54%

Anarcho-Primitivist

42%

Anarcho-Communist

38%

Stalinist

33%

Nazi

29%

Neoconservative

29%

Theocracy

25%

Christian Democrat

21%

:p nice. I thought some of your statements were too extreme and sounded biased though........but all in all I liked the test, it was easy to figure out where I stood on most issues, unlike the political compass one.

EDIT: I screwed up your poll sorry. :(

Yeah! I'm a Trotskyist with 83%!

I'm a bit shocked though to hear that 73% of my views match with Fascism...

Yeah! I'm a Trotskyist with 83%!

I'm a bit shocked though to hear that 73% of my views match with Fascism...

HA! I'm more fascist than you with 79%! :D

Got Christian-Democrat at 88%, Paleoconservative at 83% followed by Fascist and Stalinist at 63% each and furthest away from Theocracy at 11%.

Though I'd get something more center-left, seeing as how I took strongly disagree with every question involving "God is right!". But then I took strongly agree on those pesky "be nice to other people" questions...ack!

The quiz seems to have a hard time choosing between Christian and Leftist.

Most of my results were close to 50%.

Fortunately, Nazi, Theocracy and Neoconservative were all below 30%.

My three highest were:
Minarchism/Libertarianism
63%

Anarcho-Syndicalist
54%

Paleoconservative
54%

Got Christian-Democrat at 88%, Paleoconservative at 83% followed by Fascist and Stalinist at 63% each and furthest away from Theocracy at 11%.

Though I'd get something more center-left, seeing as how I took strongly disagree with every question involving "God is right!". But then I took strongly agree on those pesky "be nice to other people" questions...ack!

The quiz seems to have a hard time choosing between Christian and Leftist.

Yeah, I think that was its problem with me. I was anti all the God stuff, but very pro on the help everyone and be nice stuff, and confused it.

Although, I'd probably shoot myself if I had Fascist anywhere near that high. I'm pretty pleased that four out of my top six were "anarcho" or libertarian. That's good.

HA! I'm more fascist than you with 79%! :D

You must have missed that memo. Here it is:

To: All
Date: 1945
Subject: Re Fascism

Not such a good thing after all

Signed,
Europe

You scored as Minarchism/Libertarianism.



You're a libertarian. You see the point of having a government, but you wish to see the understanding of itself change, from an all-powerful representation of society to just one cog in the motor that helps the free market function for the good of all. The writings of Milton Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics are for you, as is the Becker-Posner Blog at http://www.becker-posner-blog.com.

Anarcho-Syndicalist 63%

Minarchism/Libertarianism 63%

Stalinist 50%

Trotskyist 46%

Christian Democrat 46%

Fascist 42%

Anarcho-Communist 29%

Anarcho-Capitalism 29%

Anarcho-Primitivist 25%

Paleoconservative 25%

Nazi 17%

Theocracy 8%

Neoconservative 0%

Hey, if I do well enough of your quiz, do I get to carry around a red flag and burn down factories?

Hey, if I do well enough of your quiz, do I get to carry around a red flag and burn down factories?

Nah, that's a different test.

You scored as Minarchism/Libertarianism.



You're a libertarian. You see the point of having a government, but you wish to see the understanding of itself change, from an all-powerful representation of society to just one cog in the motor that helps the free market function for the good of all. The writings of Milton Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics are for you, as is the Becker-Posner Blog at http://www.becker-posner-blog.com.

Anarcho-Capitalism

63%
Minarchism/Libertarianism

63%
Fascist

58%
Trotskyist

54%
Paleoconservative

50%
Anarcho-Syndicalist

42%
Christian Democrat

42%
Anarcho-Communist

38%
Stalinist

33%
Nazi

29%
Anarcho-Primitivist

25%
Neoconservative

25%
Theocracy

21%

I would've thought Theocracy would rank higher. Seems I'm all over the place.

Nah, that's a different test.

Would that happened to be the OcceanDrive test?

Would that happened to be the OcceanDrive test?

No. Oddly enough it's called the Carrying A Red Flag And Burning Down Factories Test.

You scored as Christian Democrat.

Christian Democrats believe in taking the middle way. They feel it is their duty to God to make life as good as possible for as many people as possible, while preserving progress and political and economic stablity. You're most likely comfortable in a centre-right position, especially in Europe, alongside people like Angela Merkel. Wilhelm Röpke and Alexander Rüstow should be worth a look.

Christian Democrat
75%
Anarcho-Syndicalist
63%
Trotskyist
54%
Anarcho-Communist
54%
Stalinist
42%
Neo-conservative
33%
Anarcho-Primitivist
33%
Minarchism/Libertarianism
29%
Paleoconservative
29%
Fascist
25%
Anarcho-Capitalism
25%
Theocracy
13%
Nazi
4%

Fairly accurate...well...Aside from the fact that I'm not actually religious, a believer in the middle way, or on the centre right. :) Methinks the quiz needs some tweakage. But hey, at least im only 4% Nazi. Though which 4% of me is Nazi is what Im interested in...

You must have missed that memo. Here it is:

Aw, nice. :)

Must be the memo that got stuck to someone's lunch wrapper, though. The rest of the world doesn't seem to have got it.

EDIT: It's obviously an easy test to make. I for one have it bookmarked. Expect a rash of "take the test" polls in future. I'll keep my powder dry for a while until I've got it sussed ... you know you're all Hippies really dontcha?

You're an anarcho-capitalist. You think that people know what's best for themselves and absolutely no one can tell them otherwise. You can take care of yourself, and you expect everyone else to do the same. You're happy to help others, but only because you want to, not because you're compelled to do it. Ludwig von Mises, David Friedman and Ayn Rand should be authors you enjoy.

Anarcho-Capitalism 100%

Paleoconservative 79%

Minarchism/Libertarianism 79%

Anarcho-Syndicalist 50%

Nazi 42%

Neoconservative 33%

Christian Democrat 29%

Stalinist 25%

Fascist 21%

Trotskyist 21%

Anarcho-Communist 17%

Anarcho-Primitivist 0%

Theocracy 0%

Very accurate. Some comments; Ayn Rand is not an anarcho-capitalist, by any stretch of imagination. She may have bordered on it, but she never embraced it. Also, you should've included mises.org for anarcho-capitalism as you did with the Posner-Becker site. :)

How very odd, I scored as a trotskyist although I voted against anything to do with world revolution. I think there must be something wrong with the quiz! I am anything but a trotskyist.

I got the Anarcho-Communist, but to be honest, I had to vote 3 on a lot of your questions simply because my view of where economics is heading seems completely at a tangent to the issues on which you're trying to classify people. Businesses? Welfare? Taxation? The role of the Workers? These are matters of supreme indifference to me, since they will inevitably be rendered obsolete by the march of technology.

How very odd, I scored as a trotskyist although I voted against anything to do with world revolution. I think there must be something wrong with the quiz! I am anything but a trotskyist.

"Something"?

You could be more specific. You couldn't be far wrong I'm guessing :D

You're a fascist. You believe that life and existence is a struggle, and we'd be better off all working together to succeed and survive. That also means that those who don't help should not be allowed to remain part of society, and that those who stand against the nation deserve no mercy, because mercy ultimately means weakness in the face of the natural struggle for survival. The nation is best represented by a strong leader, who can make quick decisions for everyone and mustn't hesitate in the face of adversity. Obviously books by Mussolini should be of interest to you.


A fascist? Ok... but I beleive in mercy and taking care of the lttle people and all that. Personally, I've always been in favor of elected officials that can be voted out of affice at any time.

The questions you ask seem somewhat one-dimensional and based on shallow clichés, don't they?
Actually, a lot of the descriptions he used came from wikipedia - they are cliches in that they are defining aspects of these ideologies. I know because I helped him with this.

A lot of the questions I found difficulty answering partly because ideas like school vouchers and fair tax are only American (I think).
The school voucher system is being applied in some Eastern European country, the name of which I cannot recall. Almost all Monetarist economic ideas have global applicability.

Minarchism/Libertarianism - 88%
Christian Democrat - 75%
Paleoconservative - 63%
Trotskyist - 58%
Stalinist - 42%
Anarcho-Communist - 38%
Anarcho-Capitalism - 38%
Nazi - 33%
Theocracy - 33%
Neoconservative - 33%
Anarcho-Primitivist - 29%
Fascist - 25%
Anarcho-Syndicalist - 17%

I don't even know what these terms mean. ;)

Minarchism/Libertarianism - 88%
Christian Democrat - 75%
Paleoconservative - 63%
Trotskyist - 58%
Stalinist - 42%
Anarcho-Communist - 38%
Anarcho-Capitalism - 38%
Nazi - 33%
Theocracy - 33%
Neoconservative - 33%
Anarcho-Primitivist - 29%
Fascist - 25%
Anarcho-Syndicalist - 17%

I don't even know what these terms mean. ;)
Time to go on wikipedia and find out then, no? :)

"Something"?

You could be more specific. You couldn't be far wrong I'm guessing :D

Well I guess a lot of the questions are to do with how to make socialism do well and succeed or not. I could have my own theories on how to attempt to make a decent socialist state without being a socialist.

Stalinist!

...

I'm not too sure what to make of that to be honest...

However, many of the questions seemed to be facts rather then opinions. Stuff that anyone who knows anything about the topic in question, history or whatever, will know if it is true or false and their personal opinions won't change that fact. Can you give an example of this?

A very interesting Quiz. I liked it versus the other political quiz's I have taken.

"You're a conservative in the original meaning of the word. You are sceptical when it comes to social engineering...we barely understand the simple things of life, how can we hope to grasp all the interactions going on within a society? Traditions and established practice exist for a reason and are the best thing we have to make society work, and radical change is best surpressed, because it will only end up causing harm. Authors like Edmund Burke are for you."
I love Edmund Burke as it just so happens and i find the description more accurate then any other quiz I have taken...if not completely accurate.
I support some social engineering on a very limited scale.

Paleoconservative 92%
Fascist 83%
Trotskyist 79%
Stalinist 79%
Theocracy 75%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 75%
Christian Democrat 75%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 71%
Nazi 54%
Neoconservative 54%
Anarcho-Capitalism 50%
Anarcho-Primitivist 38%
Anarcho-Communist 29%


I give it a 5.

I got about halfway through and decided to give up because I didn't understand some of it. It was pointless for me to go since many of my answers would be uninformed.

Not a bad quiz...


You scored as Anarcho-Syndicalist.

As anarcho-syndicalist, you believe in the obvious and eternal conflict between workers and their bosses. It's obvious that the workers are producing all the value, so they should simply cut out the middle man and rule the world directly through their cooperatives. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon is an author you might want to have the look at if you haven't already.

Anarcho-Syndicalist 79%
Trotskyist 75%

I scored 100% anarcho-primitivist, I agree completley. Nice work on the quiz.

The test requires a bit too much prior knowledge for me.

Plus the fact that I like to think from starting principles rather than simply taking a side on established political ideas, makes things a bit hard.

Mostly though, it's the prior knowledge problem. The test's long enough without having to search the net for information about the concepts mentioned - they should be described in a way that can be understood without knowing what things like "School Vouchers", etc. are.

Thats really weird.....It said I was a Fascist!! :(

Political Compass said I was Left-Wing Libertarian.....

....something seems to be out of whack

Anarcho-Communist 88%

Anarcho-Syndicalist 75%

Trotskyist 71%

Anarcho-Primitivist 71%

Stalinist 38%

Christian Democrat 38%

Paleoconservative 33%

Neoconservative 25%

Anarcho-Capitalism 21%

Minarchism/Libertarianism 21%

Fascist 21%

Theocracy 8%

Nazi 0%

Pretty accurate.

That's a pretty impressive piece of work, Neu Leonstein.

But this:
Christian Democrat 83%
It is strange, considering I chose "strongly disagree" for all religion-related questions...
happened to me, too.

Considering that your description for Christian Democrat says "They feel it is their duty to God" that really is kinda weird.

Not to mention that I'm APPALLED to have scored as a Christian Democrat! :mad: :p I'll just blame it on the fact that I chose the middle option so often because I either couldn't decide or I actually didn't know. But still... <.< *shudders* I feel the sudden urge to post my political compass scores in my sig to wash off the stain. :p


Christian Democrat 63%

Anarcho-Syndicalist 58%

Anarcho-Primitivist 46%

Anarcho-Communist 42%

Trotskyist 38%

Stalinist 38%

Paleoconservative 33%

Minarchism/Libertarianism 21%

Anarcho-Capitalism 17%

Theocracy 17%

Fascist 8%

Nazi 8%

Neoconservative 4%

'tis ace.

I like the way the tie-breaker decided between Anarcho-Syndicalist, Anarcho-Communist and Trotskyist, all of which I fit 100% apparently.

Good job I'm an Anarchist. :D

"As anarcho-syndicalist, you believe in the obvious and eternal conflict between workers and their bosses. It's obvious that the workers are producing all the value, so they should simply cut out the middle man and rule the world directly through their cooperatives. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon is an author you might want to have the look at if you haven't already.

Anarcho-Syndicalist 100%
Anarcho-Communist 100%
Trotskyist 100%
Stalinist 63%
Fascist 63%
Anarcho-Primitivist 58%
Christian Democrat 54%
Paleoconservative 50%
Anarcho-Capitalism 50%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 33%
Nazi 17%
Theocracy 13%
Neoconservative 8% "

Fascist was my second-place score, I'm sure we'll get along just fine :)

And oppress everyone else who opposes us!

I just wanted to say... lawl @ this and starting a gang war. Also, why bother oppressing them when you can simply wipe them off the map? I have my Warships ready for orbital bombardment, you cover the cruise missles! XD

Finished. I got Christian Democrat...

While I certainly did take "the middle way", I hardly think that makes me a Christian.

I did choose lots of middle options, though. Sometimes I wasn't familiar enough with the subject matter and at other times the questions were loaded, so I couldn't really take a side.

Well, at least Nazi came last.

Finished. I got Christian Democrat...

While I certainly did take "the middle way", I hardly think that makes me a Christian.

I did choose lots of middle options, though. Sometimes I wasn't familiar enough with the subject matter and at other times the questions were loaded, so I couldn't really take a side.

Well, at least Nazi came last.
Yup, exactly what I was trying to say.

So basically I was just too dumb for the quiz.

You know, looking at it this way, I kinda like that it made me Christian Democrat. :D

Extremely accurate, I'll say that. Should I be concerned I'm a fascist, though? >.>

No.

Fascism is a legit ideology which, when you remove the racist overtones of the 1930s, is actually fairly decent. Yes, it's nationalistic and militaristic, but it's not necesarily EEEVIL as many think it is.

My results said that My brown eyes mean that I'm a warm and tender spirit looking for a similar companion...

Well, something I just noticed was that I didn't have normal lefties in there, ie social democracy or something.

This, I think, is why there are so many so-called "Christian democrats."

Leftists who aren't radical have nowhere else to go.

Am I the only person who thinks the quiz is flawed?

I like the way the tie-breaker decided between Anarcho-Syndicalist, Anarcho-Communist and Trotskyist, all of which I fit 100% apparently.

How can you possibly be both 100% anarcho-whatever and 100% Trotskyist?

My results said that My brown eyes mean that I'm a warm and tender spirit looking for a similar companion...ORLY?

This, I think, is why there are so many so-called "Christian democrats."

Leftists who aren't radical have nowhere else to go.Ah, hadn't seen that. Thanks.

*sniffle*

ORLY?


I think I might have taken the wrong test...

Libertarian won the tiebreaker between M/L and Fascism. Quite a combo.

Can you give an example of this?
Couldn't decide which example to pick so here is a bunch of 'em...

It is government’s job to create a basic order in the chaos of human society.
That is the dictionary definition (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/government) of the word government:

the body with the power to make and/or enforce laws for a country, land area, people, or organization.
a group of people who hold a monopoly on the legitimate use of force in a given territory.


The way to a true utopia lies through eliminating those elements that stand in the way.
Duh, the way to achieve any goal is to solve the issues that prevent you from achieving it.

All division of labour and specialisation leads to hierarchical structures and thus inequality.
"hierarchical structure" is what it's called when people are organized into specialized roles. For example construction: One draws the blueprint, one handles administrative stuff, one installs electricity, another plumbing and others build. The others will have to obey the drawings and administrative decisions.

The Mondragon Cooperative illustrates that companies can run without owners and managers.
To be picky worker cooperatives do have owners, it's just the same people as their employees. But I'll assume you meant without external owners. Then yes it must be concluded that they can run that way since they are in fact running that way. Any other conclusion would be like saying birds can't fly.

Ethnic groups share a connection deeper than just the way they look or talk.
They usually live in the same area and have the same culture, that connection seems pretty hard to miss.

For the nation to be healthy internal differences must be overcome.
Yeah if they can't overcome their internal differences that'll be a problem like it has been for Ireland in best case or in worst case like the mess Lebanon is in.

Liberal Western Capitalism has won the great battle of ideology against communism.
The cold war is over and if you can't figure out who won it then turn on the radio to listen to some music or turn on the TV to watch a movie and see if the world's culture is dominated by USA or Soviet.

The communist states, for all their good intentions, failed because they were based on hierarchies.
No need to guess as we have the results from that experiment. It turned out they didn't work out at all like what their dictators' propaganda said their good intentions where and they failed.

Democracies don’t go to war against each other, so global democratisation would bring world peace.
I'd like to remind everyone who answered yes here about WW2. Both Churchill and Hitler where elected leaders.

Couldn't decide which example to pick so here is a bunch of 'em...

It is government’s job to create a basic order in the chaos of human society.
That is the dictionary definition (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/government) of the word government:

the body with the power to make and/or enforce laws for a country, land area, people, or organization.
a group of people who hold a monopoly on the legitimate use of force in a given territory.
If you don't think human society is particularly chaotic, you might think government has another job.
If you think human society is chaotic, you might think government's job is what the question says.

The way to a true utopia lies through eliminating those elements that stand in the way.
Duh, the way to achieve any goal is to solve the issues that prevent you from achieving it.Perhaps the way to utopia is to assimilate those elements, as opposed to eliminating them?

All division of labour and specialisation leads to hierarchical structures and thus inequality.
"hierarchical structure" is what it's called when people are organized into specialized roles. For example construction: One draws the blueprint, one handles administrative stuff, one installs electricity, another plumbing and others build. The others will have to obey the drawings and administrative decisions.Perhaps not all divisions of labor require hierarchy?

The Mondragon Cooperative illustrates that companies can run without owners and managers.
To be picky worker cooperatives do have owners, it's just the same people as their employees. But I'll assume you meant without external owners. Then yes it must be concluded that they can run that way since they are in fact running that way. Any other conclusion would be like saying birds can't fly.If someone doesn't think the Cooperative is running very well, and is doomed to failure, they might believe this is because of a lack of owners and managers.

Ethnic groups share a connection deeper than just the way they look or talk.
They usually live in the same area and have the same culture, that connection seems pretty hard to miss.But not always.

For the nation to be healthy internal differences must be overcome.
Yeah if they can't overcome their internal differences that'll be a problem like it has been for Ireland in best case or in worst case like the mess Lebanon is in.A problem, perhaps, but not necessarily severe enough to make the nation unhealthy.

Liberal Western Capitalism has won the great battle of ideology against communism.
The cold war is over and if you can't figure out who won it then turn on the radio to listen to some music or turn on the TV to watch a movie and see if the world's culture is dominated by USA or Soviet.In order to come to this conclusion you would have to be of the opinion that the Soviets were communist.

The communist states, for all their good intentions, failed because they were based on hierarchies.
No need to guess as we have the results from that experiment. It turned out they didn't work out at all like what their dictators' propaganda said their good intentions where and they failed.Perhaps someone believes they failed for other reasons?

Democracies don’t go to war against each other, so global democratisation would bring world peace.
I'd like to remind everyone who answered yes here about WW2. Both Churchill and Hitler where elected leaders.Hitler wasn't elected to be the leader of Germany.

Anyway, it's not my test, so I dunno why I'm defending it...

Hitler wasn't elected to be the leader of Germany.
Yes my bad, he was elected indirectly. Appointed to chancellor by Paul von Hindenburg who was elected to president or something like that.

Don't want to respond to everything else separately. I hope people aren't blind enough to believe human society is not chaotic. Having a serious problem is an unhealthy thing to some degree. And regardless of wheter or not you think cooperatives are a successful business model or doomed to fail eventually they are already running without external owners and thus proving they can do it at least for a while.

Edit: Oh and if it is a matter of opinion wheter or not soviet was communist then it is my opinion that no nations are capitalist as all "capitalist" nations have flawed markets and governments that both collect taxes and put up stupid rules to attempt to compensate for those flaws.

Minarchist/Libertarian = 79%

Makes sense, I'm shifting more towards monetarism every day.

*hugs Vetalia* :fluffle:

First of all, good on you for putting all that work into this. It seems to have garnered accurate responses for many on here.

I'm not one of them however, and I did find some of the results rather bizarre, as well as your definitions for some of the categories. Well, if you take the word 'Christian' and 'Duty to God' out of the description you have for Christian Democrat, you would probably have an accurate reflection of where I stand.

You scored as Christian Democrat.

Christian Democrats believe in taking the middle way. They feel it is their duty to God to make life as good as possible for as many people as possible, while preserving progress and political and economic stablity. You're most likely comfortable in a centre-right position, especially in Europe, alongside people like Angela Merkel. Wilhelm Röpke and Alexander Rüstow should be worth a look.

Christian Democrat 63%
Fascist 58%
Stalinist 58%
Neoconservative 50%
Anarcho-Primitivist 50%
Trotskyist 50%
Paleoconservative 46%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 42%
Anarcho-Communist 38%
Anarcho-Capitalism 29%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 29%
Nazi 21%
Theocracy 17%


It's kind of funny that the top two likelihoods were 'Christian Democrat' and Fascist, while the bottom two were Nazi and Theocracy... with all the various degrees of anarchism in between.

I'm in agreement with some of the earlier posters, and some of the comments you made yourself. There needs to be room for some differences in the centre of the political spectrum, or perhaps different titles for some of the responses.

Good quiz, but it concentrates too much on Syndo's, Anarcho's, Neo's, and all those other far out ideologies. Anyone who's even slightly central is labelled a Christian Democrat. Where's the plain "Liberal" result?

Hmmm, I think this test is flawed, in any sense, it doesnt represent neither my real life opinions, nor what I got on the political compass:

Nazi

92%
Neoconservative

83%
Minarchism/Libertarianism

75%
Fascist

75%
Anarcho-Capitalism

67%
Christian Democrat

63%
Paleoconservative

63%
Stalinist

38%
Trotskyist

33%
Anarcho-Syndicalist

29%
Anarcho-Primitivist

25%
Theocracy

17%
Anarcho-Communist
:rolleyes:

For one, I'm not for, well..any of the "social" aspects in "Nation-Socialism", but rather I beleive the government should be small, limited, and its influences on our personal lives greatly reduced. Perhaps it's possible I got this score because I strongly agreed that "Jews are over-represented in positions of power"...because, well...we are. That's a fact, look how we place in positions of power compared to our percentage of the population, however, the test didn't make clear if this was a good thing or a bad thing, simply that it existed.

Also, I answered in favor of the much more free-market capitalist answers than anything "protected" under National-Socialism..so...yeah...I really am not sure why I got this answer, which is neither what I am in real life nor what I got on the PC test.:rolleyes:

For one, I'm not for, well..any of the "social" aspects in "Nation-Socialism", but rather I beleive the government should be small, limited, and its influences on our personal lives greatly reduced. Perhaps it's possible I got this score because I strongly agreed that "Jews are over-represented in positions of power"...because, well...we are. That's a fact, look how we place in positions of power compared to our percentage of the population, however, the test didn't make clear if this was a good thing or a bad thing, simply that it existed.

Also, I answered in favor of the much more free-market capitalist answers than anything "protected" under National-Socialism..so...yeah...I really am not sure why I got this answer, which is neither what I am in real life nor what I got on the PC test.:rolleyes:

That's what I've been saying for the longest time --- these tests are no true indication of our views. They're too one-dimensional.

How can you possibly be both 100% anarcho-whatever and 100% Trotskyist?

I'm not sure, but I'm not going to tell the Trots! :p

That's what I've been saying for the longest time --- these tests are no true indication of our views. They're too one-dimensional.
What did you get and what are you in real life?

What did you get and what are you in real life?

It gave me 67% Minarchist and 33% Trotskyist.

For the record, I never, not once, believed in the writings of Trotsky, or even took the man seriously. In reality, I guess I'm a Minarchist. I know that the government is necessary, but not to the extent most people think it is.

I also believe that business should be less regulated, and that income/property taxes are bogus. In my honest opinion, I think that taxes should only be placed on goods, say an extra 15% of their full price. You pay more for them, but you still have a lot more spendable income, as the government isn't taking away over 30% of what you earn (more like 50% when you add property taxes and the such).

Yeah yeah, social programs and whatnot, I don't give a damn anymore.

You scored as Minarchism/Libertarianism.

Minarchism/Libertarianism
83%

Trotskyist
79%

Stalinist
75%

Fascist
63%

Anarcho-Syndicalist
58%

Anarcho-Capitalism
50%

Christian Democrat
42%

Anarcho-Communist
38%

Nazi
33%

Anarcho-Primitivist
33%

Neoconservative
29%

Paleoconservative
29%

Theocracy
8%

First of all, good on you for putting all that work into this. It seems to have garnered accurate responses for many on here.

I'm not one of them however, and I did find some of the results rather bizarre, as well as your definitions for some of the categories. Well, if you take the word 'Christian' and 'Duty to God' out of the description you have for Christian Democrat, you would probably have an accurate reflection of where I stand.



It's kind of funny that the top two likelihoods were 'Christian Democrat' and Fascist, while the bottom two were Nazi and Theocracy... with all the various degrees of anarchism in between.

I'm in agreement with some of the earlier posters, and some of the comments you made yourself. There needs to be room for some differences in the centre of the political spectrum, or perhaps different titles for some of the responses.

I agree with this assessment, M'burg.

I had a simliar scoring, despite "strongly disagreeing" with every pro-god or pro-religion question and supporting both the rights to one's own body and Darwin. I think this quiz is partially broken.

It gave me 67% Minarchist and 33% Trotskyist.

For the record, I never, not once, believed in the writings of Trotsky, or even took the man seriously. In reality, I guess I'm a Minarchist. I know that the government is necessary, but not to the extent most people think it is.

I also believe that business should be less regulated, and that income/property taxes are bogus. In my honest opinion, I think that taxes should only be placed on goods, say an extra 15% of their full price. You pay more for them, but you still have a lot more spendable income, as the government isn't taking away over 30% of what you earn (more like 50% when you add property taxes and the such).

Yeah yeah, social programs and whatnot, I don't give a damn anymore.
We should vote for Ron Paul (I think your my age, and if I remember correctly, you'll be able to vote next election)

We should vote for Ron Paul (I think your my age, and if I remember correctly, you'll be able to vote next election)

I'm 19, and I don't vote for anybody... I have my reasons.

Number one, I have little respect for this near-Monarchy we seem to have created.

Anarcho-primitivist - 71%

The results might have been a bit skewed because I answered neutral to several.

Yup, exactly what I was trying to say.

So basically I was just too dumb for the quiz.

You know, looking at it this way, I kinda like that it made me Christian Democrat. :D

I don't see myself as dumb because of it, in fact, I believe that established political ideas have little to offer. They're either not pragmatic enough for me or too heartless. Obviously I'm not saying my thoughts are completely original, but I have no interesting in subscribing to any ideology.

I agree with this assessment, M'burg.

I had a simliar scoring, despite "strongly disagreeing" with every pro-god or pro-religion question and supporting both the rights to one's own body and Darwin. I think this quiz is partially broken.

In all fairness, it seems to be a complex work that tried to encompass the wide variety of viewpoints most professed on NSG. However, in broadening the anarcho-side of things, the centre has been narrowed. On top of that, I get the impression that choosing anything that favours state control or support for tarriff's, etc. will lean you towards the conservative or fascist side. No room for Lib-Dem's, Soc-Dem's or the like.

Not a huge fan of the quiz, NL.

Nazi
100%

Anarcho-Capitalism
83%

Minarchism/Libertarianism
58%

Trotskyist
58%

Christian Democrat
50%

Fascist
50%

Neoconservative
33%

Anarcho-Syndicalist
33%

Stalinist
33%

Paleoconservative
17%

Theocracy
17%

Anarcho-Primitivist
0%

Anarcho-Communist
0%

For example, the question "Crimes against morality are crimes against God and should be treated as such." produces agreement in people who think that religion is bunk, but persuasive morality is necessarily based in religion. As such, crimes against morality would be crimes against God, but both are equally meaningless, and should be treated equivalently (ignored). That has to be the basis of the Theocracy score I got.

And I don't see how I'm a nazi.

Here are my results:

Anarcho-Communist 88%

Trotskyist 75%

Christian Democrat 71%

Anarcho-Syndicalist 67%

Anarcho-Primitivist 63%

Stalinist 63%

Makes a lot of sense except that I do believe in the state as the best way of controlling the amount of people we have today. However, with less people the state would be bad.

Anarcho-Communist
83%

Trotskyist
71%

Christian Democrat
67%

Anarcho-Syndicalist
67%

Anarcho-Primitivist
38%

Stalinist
38%

Minarchism/Libertarianism
29%

Paleoconservative
25%

Fascist
25%

Anarcho-Capitalism
17%

Neoconservative
17%

Theocracy
13%

Nazi
13%

Not sure how accurate this is. The rich and the state are the contemptible foes of liberty, but... perhaps something like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_%28economic_theory%29) is closer to what I think would be a good match, if I had to choose something. Or whatever it is that these folks (http://www.thetake.org/synopsis.php) are. The Anarcho-Syndicalist score doesn't seem nearly high enough (on other quizes I've taken, the anarcho-syndicalist score tends to quite high. Interestingly, the anarcho-capitalist score isn't usually far behind either....)

But the "workers can manage themselves => Communism!" assumption being made doesn't seem right, or is at least very incomplete; the idea that I'm more Stalinist than I am Minarchist/Libertarian is just absurd. The idea that I'm Stalinist to any degree no matter how tiny is just absurd. Ditto for pretty much everything else after that.

You scored as Trotskyist.

As a Trotskyist, revolution is the name of your game. Revolution is not only necessary to establish a socialist state, but it is necessary to defend it as well. Only global worker solidarity in opposition to both capitalist interests and established government processes can ultimately succeed.

Fascist 83%
Trotskyist 83%
Anarcho-Communist 83%
Stalinist 83%
Theocracy 75%
Paleoconservative 71%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 63%
Christian Democrat 63%
Anarcho-Capitalism 46%
Anarcho-Primitivist 38%
Nazi 38%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 29%
Neoconservative 21%



All in all, I can agree with that assessment. A true socialist society would be a wonderful thing, but capitalist societies (namely the US at the moment) would seek its downfall.

Nice quiz.

You scored as Anarcho-Capitalism.



You're an anarcho-capitalist. You think that people know what's best for themselves and absolutely no one can tell them otherwise. You can take care of yourself, and you expect everyone else to do the same. You're happy to help others, but only because you want to, not because you're compelled to do it. Ludwig von Mises, David Friedman and Ayn Rand should be authors you enjoy.

Anarcho-Capitalism

88%

Minarchism/Libertarianism

83%

Neoconservative

67%

Fascist

58%

Paleoconservative

54%

Anarcho-Communist

54%

Trotskyist

54%

Christian Democrat

50%

Nazi

50%

Anarcho-Syndicalist

42%

Theocracy

25%

Anarcho-Primitivist

21%

Stalinist

17%

Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Vic

You scored as Anarcho-Syndicalist.


As anarcho-syndicalist, you believe in the obvious and eternal conflict between workers and their bosses. It's obvious that the workers are producing all the value, so they should simply cut out the middle man and rule the world directly through their cooperatives. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon is an author you might want to have the look at if you haven't already.

Anarcho-Syndicalist 83%
Trotskyist 79%
Anarcho-Capitalism 71%
Anarcho-Primitivist 63%
Minarchism/Libertarianism 58%
Paleoconservative 50%
Anarcho-Communist 42%
Fascist 33%
Stalinist 33%
Theocracy 21%
Neoconservative 17%
Nazi 17%
Christian Democrat 8%

Uh-oh

EDIT: Nazi at 17% and Christian Democrat at 8%. I don't know what a Christian Democrat is, but I bet they suck.

Not a bad quiz...


You scored as Anarcho-Syndicalist.

As anarcho-syndicalist, you believe in the obvious and eternal conflict between workers and their bosses. It's obvious that the workers are producing all the value, so they should simply cut out the middle man and rule the world directly through their cooperatives. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon is an author you might want to have the look at if you haven't already.

Anarcho-Syndicalist 79%
Trotskyist 75%



Ah! See, if the quiz is going to mention Proudhon, then it should directly incorporate Mutualism as a possible result. Putting Proudhon under "anarcho-syndicalism" is actually quite inaccurate. Proudhon incorporated property and market processes into his economic theory (a very different "property" and "market" than that typically attribued to capitalism, yes, but still...) and focused on competition between worker-owned and controlled enterprise. Anarcho-syndicalism aims to abolish property and market entirely while focusing on unionism.

Proudhon =/= Anarcho-Syndicalism.

Not a huge fan of the quiz, NL.

Nazi
100%

Ha!

I don't see myself as dumb because of it, in fact, I believe that established political ideas have little to offer. They're either not pragmatic enough for me or too heartless. Obviously I'm not saying my thoughts are completely original, but I have no interesting in subscribing to any ideology.Oh! No! I didn't mean you were dumb. I was strictly talking about myself, because I *do* suck at political theory and hence was in fact not sure how to answer some of the questions. <<

i got stuck on the third question. i don't know what it was referring to.

i got stuck on the third question. i don't know what it was referring to.
I don't remember which one that was, but just on principle: :fluffle:

Hmmm, I think this test is flawed...Not a huge fan of the quiz, NL.
To everyone who got a high Nazi score...I have spent some time talking to racialists, racists and nazis and tried working out how they tick.

One of the things I wanted to do with this test was make sure that people won't just click "No" on answers because they knew they were Nazi. The questions that lead to Nazism are chosen because they reflect the mindset, not the policies that arise from them. If you get a high score in Nazism, then that probably tells you that you have more in common with racialist beliefs than you would like to admit.

Nazism is one of the few categories that I think I nailed accurately.

You scored as Anarcho-Syndicalist.
Lol!

By the way, the quizfarm site is fairly easy to use. I would encourage everyone to make a better test, this is still a beta version, I would guess.

Lol!

By the way, the quizfarm site is fairly easy to use. I would encourage everyone to make a better test, this is still a beta version, I would guess.

It isn't that laughable. I am a stout supporter of unionization and have many socialist leanings.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j315/crashcow/NSG/results.jpg

there is no way i'm a trotskyist, i'm against communism, too authoritarian.

I got a tie between libertarianism and Stalinism. I didn't know they had any agreement but whatever it is, it must be good.

You scored as Minarchism/Libertarianism.

Minarchism/Libertarianism 92%
Anarcho-Capitalism 67%
Paleoconservative 54%
Neoconservative 46%
Christian Democrat 42%
Theocracy 38%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 38%
Trotskyist 38%
Fascist 29%
Anarcho-Communist 17%
Nazi 13%
Anarcho-Primitivist 8%
Stalinist 8%

I would call this pretty accurate. I don't like the Becker-Posner blog though, it is a bit longer winded than I usually find enjoyable. I prefer Marginal Revolution and Econlib for my libertarian stuff although I do remember an interesting argument by Posner on information and trans fats.

... it put me as a Christian Democrat. Despite repeatedly choosing anti-traditionalist and anti-Theocratic... hell mostly anti-religion choices. It called me centre-right for God's sake. I'm sorry, but that's just so very wrong.

Of course now that I look at the other options, I guess I'm closest to Christian Democrat. Strange that no centre-left (Socialdemocratic) position seems to be represented.

It isn't that laughable. I am a stout supporter of unionization and have many socialist leanings.
I had predicted this in advance. :p These tests aren't made to account for market anarchists with leftist sympathies, for instance.

To everyone who got a high Nazi score...I have spent some time talking to racialists, racists and nazis and tried working out how they tick.

One of the things I wanted to do with this test was make sure that people won't just click "No" on answers because they knew they were Nazi. The questions that lead to Nazism are chosen because they reflect the mindset, not the policies that arise from them. If you get a high score in Nazism, then that probably tells you that you have more in common with racialist beliefs than you would like to admit.
Even so, there is still a world of difference between believing in racial differences on the one hand and arriving at conclusions characteristic of Nazism on the other.

#22.
The way to a true utopia lies through eliminating those elements that stand in the way.

I'll assume eliminating all of humanity is on your list then? :D

...and being a good american, I find the idea of being a "Christian Democrat" amusing but impossible. ;)

Given that the quiz called me a fascist, I'd say there are some serious issues with it. I'm no fascist at all. The quiz itself was so squewed towards communism, that I chose neutral for about half of the answers. There were some questions where the answer was either become a fascist or become a communist, and since I am neither, the question was impossible to answer.

Edit: Took it again, now I'm an anarcho-syndacalist/paleoconservative/social democrat. The test really doesn't do well with American politics, methinks.

I got Christian Democrat, despite answering strongly disagree to all religious questions. I think you should not have included religious aspects with political ones.

Even so, there is still a world of difference between believing in racial differences on the one hand and arriving at conclusions characteristic of Nazism on the other.
It's a small, small world.

The thing is that very few people actually bother reading Nazi literature or get into Nazi culture (beyond SS Runes and Wehrmacht uniforms). So they assume that Nazism is all foaming-at-the-mouth hate-crime stuff.

If it had been, the population of Germany wouldn't have gone along with it.

The test really doesn't do well with American politics, methinks.
Well, there's plenty of those, and they usually don't do well with anything but "filthy liberal vs raging neocon", so I don't mind. :p

The link doesn't work. :(

The link doesn't work. :(
:eek:

I have no idea why! Maybe it'll work later?

To everyone who got a high Nazi score...I have spent some time talking to racialists, racists and nazis and tried working out how they tick.

One of the things I wanted to do with this test was make sure that people won't just click "No" on answers because they knew they were Nazi. The questions that lead to Nazism are chosen because they reflect the mindset, not the policies that arise from them. If you get a high score in Nazism, then that probably tells you that you have more in common with racialist beliefs than you would like to admit.

Nazism is one of the few categories that I think I nailed accurately.
Then I think your questions were imprecise.

As I moted in another question earlier, there are possible responses that don't mean what you think they mean. On races, it's possible to believe that some races are better at some things (like west Africans excelling at distance running) without supporting racialist policies.

On races, it's possible to believe that some races are better at some things (like west Africans excelling at distance running)

assuming the truth of the statement for the moment, 'west african' is now a race?

assuming the truth of the statement for the moment, 'west african' is now a race?
Certainly a racial subset. If west Africans can exhibit specific characteristics that are distinct from other humans, would it be surprising if all black Africans did?

Plus, using the traditional big three racial groupings, caucasion is a very large and diverse group. Describing the characteristics of subgroups only seems prudent.

If west Africans can exhibit specific characteristics that are distinct from other humans, would it be surprising if all black Africans did?

http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/images4/pygmy.jpg

yes.

To everyone who got a high Nazi score...I have spent some time talking to racialists, racists and nazis and tried working out how they tick.

One of the things I wanted to do with this test was make sure that people won't just click "No" on answers because they knew they were Nazi. The questions that lead to Nazism are chosen because they reflect the mindset, not the policies that arise from them. If you get a high score in Nazism, then that probably tells you that you have more in common with racialist beliefs than you would like to admit.

Nazism is one of the few categories that I think I nailed accurately.
No, I don't think that's right. For instance, "there are more to ethnic groups than language and look" or whatever....Well yeah, some ethnic groups are known for valuing very intense education, a strong family unit....while others are known for their lax look at life, and known to beleive that it is more important to relax and enjoy life, than work hard, make money, but not get to enjoy it. Now I know these are CULTURAL elements, but culture ties into ethnicity. Simply recognizing these things is in no way racist, nor even bad. Also, "Jews are over-represented in positions of power". Like I said before, YES, WE ARE. Give our relation to the population of America, Jews are highly over-represented in positions of power. Again, the test makes no mention if this is good or bad....just that it is. Or another "Turkey should not be included into Europe"...Well I put no, obviously...but I highly doubt everyone that beleives the Turks not to be European are Nazis....because then Germany has a nazi leader, Angela Merkel. (I'm listing these questions cuz I beleive these are the ones that give way to the nazi result)

And for economic policies, I'm not National-Socialist at all. I'm for a greatly smaller government, direct-democracy, capitalism, free market economics.

I beleive in the global trade on goods, just not in people. I think border should be strictly inforced when it comes to immigration, but not product trading/selling/buying.

So in reality, having views such as "race exists".....or not be so politically correct as to be able to say "Jews are highly over-represented in positions of power, even though we are 1% of the nation, hardly makes one a Nazi.:rolleyes:

Now I know these are CULTURAL elements, but culture ties into ethnicity.
No, it doesn't. There's nothing about culture that has anything to do with ethnicity. What about skater culture? Hip Hop culture? Bohemian culture?

You might now say "oh, that's not real culture" and I would ask you why the hell not.

Fact of the matter is that cultures span across ethnicities and ethnicites span across cultures. That in rare cases the two almost overlap doesn't mean squat.

Also, "Jews are over-represented in positions of power". Like I said before, YES, WE ARE. Give our relation to the population of America, Jews are highly over-represented in positions of power.
I had to cut that question due to length. It originally had a "and it would be better if that wasn't so" added to it, but I figured people would be able to put 2 and 2 together when I said over-represented.

Plus, you can probably drop the "we". Jews aren't a race, remember?

(I'm listing these questions cuz I beleive these are the ones that give way to the nazi result)
The Turkey one definitely wasn't.

And for economic policies, I'm not National-Socialist at all. I'm for a greatly smaller government, direct-democracy, capitalism, free market economics.
Capitalism and cultural or racial segregation don't mix. That's why it's called a free market.

But that's beside the point. I could definitely have added more questions, but I would have had the same number on all other categories as well. As it is, there have been Nazis of all shapes and sizes. Economic policy is not something they actually agree upon. Röhm got shot because he was too much of a socialist. But that doesn't mean that Röhm wasn't a Nazi, or that Hitler wasn't.

I beleive in the global trade on goods, just not in people. I think border should be strictly inforced when it comes to immigration, but not product trading/selling/buying.
A contradiction. Either people are free to do as they please with their bodies and their produce, or not. There's no exceptions and no in-between.

yes.
I would imagine that they get less sunburns.

And for economic policies, I'm not National-Socialist at all. I'm for a greatly smaller government, direct-democracy, capitalism, free market economics.

I beleive in the global trade on goods, just not in people. I think border should be strictly inforced when it comes to immigration, but not product trading/selling/buying.
But most of these beliefs except for direct democracy are certainly compatible with nazism. Nazism is nothing to do with socialism as some people think, despite the name. Mussolini described fascism (not quite nazism but close) as "merging of business and politics". Capitalism and "free" market economics are very much part of this. Immigration is not so much trade in people as allowing people to move wherever they want which I think is fair enough.

The test includes lots of ideas that most Americans and people in western society as a whole would even think of except in the dim and distant past but it, like a lot of these sort of quizzes have slight loopholes in the propositions: What if I don't think this in the 1st place?. For example, what if you think the cold war was not a battle of ideology but of something else?They should really try to narrow down what people can think of propositions so it's just a case of either yes or no. Think of it like a scientific experiment: you need to make sure to only change 1 variable. The size of it is a good thing cos it gives a wider view on things.

But most of these beliefs except for direct democracy are certainly compatible with nazism. Nazism is nothing to do with socialism as some people think, despite the name. Mussolini described fascism (not quite nazism but close) as "merging of business and politics". Capitalism and "free" market economics are very much part of this.
Subsidising certain select firms and helping them concentrate power, thus sheltering them from competition, is not capitalist nor is it free market (no quotation marks even necessary.) It is an extension of mercantilist thought. Fascist economies are in many ways "Third Way" economies, which differs from laissez-faire (capitalism defined as private ownership of the means of production and free exchange of goods.) The "socialist" bit in NSDAP is because Hitler believed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program#The_full_text_of_the_25_point_program) government ought to provide a fair degree of welfare (for the Volk, of course) and believed in placing limitations on the landowning classes. Some of the points he made would be similar to any modern day social-democratic party.

Subsidising certain select firms and helping them concentrate power, thus sheltering them from competition, is not capitalist nor is it free market (no quotation marks even necessary.) It is an extension of mercantilist thought. Fascist economies are in many ways "Third Way" economies, which differs from laissez-faire (capitalism defined as private ownership of the means of production and free exchange of goods.) The "socialist" bit in NSDAP is because Hitler believed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program#The_full_text_of_the_25_point_program) government ought to provide a fair degree of welfare (for the Volk, of course) and believed in placing limitations on the landowning classes. Some of the points he made would be similar to any modern day social-democratic party.
I suppose I fucked up with that. I think I understand know: it's like a corporatist state as opposed to both capitalism and socialism.

No matter what was in the 25 point plan, whether the Nazis actually did the things is what actually counts. Any examples of them actually putting it into practise?

I can't think of any points where Nazism would be similar social democracy. Can you give examples?

I tell you what I got:

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