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As you all probably know, we live today in what is called the post-modern era. Caracterized by massive advances in communication and transport technology as well as the democratization of both of these, this era gives us the possibility of exploring music in all of its forms, ignoring the limitations of space or time.

Everyone likes music (...probably) in some form or another, and some, as I, like all music in almost any form. I think it would be very interesting to share musical interests and tastes so that the intrepid musical adventurers of this forum can hear about and discover new genres that they've never heard about.

So blast away band and album names, share the love of your playlist. But please make it interesting and developped. When you propose a genre/band, mention the genre, the time period, what country it comes from... as well as your personal intake on the subject : why you like it, why you think others would like it, how it integrates inside your playlist.

This topic's goal is musical culture and knowledge, not flame war. Which means debating the origins of delta blues is acceptable, while arguing which of dire straits or nirvana is better is not.

Please try and be as precise, interesting and thorough as possible.

And now, my first input to the subject :

Genre : Celtic Fusion
Celtic fusion is a term used to describe any kind of modern music that incorporates celtic musical tradition. It originated in communities of the celtic diaspora before gaining acceptance in celtic nations and the rest of the world.
It has strongly influenced the roots of many american genres of music.

Today, the term is used for many various types of music : Celtic Rock (eg : Shooglenifty (http://myspace.com/shooglenifty)), Celtic Hip-Hop (the most important example being the french/breton band Manau (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manau)) or Celtic Electronica (eg : Dagda) among many others.

I personally really like celtic sounds and influences, but am too cowardly to listen to traditional celtic music, and rather prefer the energy contained in more modern forms of the celtic heritage. Bands like The Peatbog Faeries, Shooglenifty or Salsa Celtica (very interesting fusion of salsa and celtic music) are, in my opinion, pretty uplifting and energetic, while Dagda and Afro-Celt Soundsystem would be more interesting for people who prefer ambience or other types of "calm" music. (I apreciate both types, calm and more powerful).

"Post-Modern" music is just slang for "we ran out of new things to do, so we'll just run together the stuff we've got." Like fusion cooking. Complete with the pretentious Yuppies. Give me music without the pretention of Modernity or Post-Modernity. The expression is more important than the medium anyway.

"Post-Modern" music is just slang for "we ran out of new things to do, so we'll just run together the stuff we've got." Like fusion cooking. Complete with the pretentious Yuppies. Give me music without the pretention of Modernity or Post-Modernity. The expression is more important than the medium anyway.

Here here.

"Post-Modern" music is just slang for "we ran out of new things to do, so we'll just run together the stuff we've got." Like fusion cooking. Complete with the pretentious Yuppies. Give me music without the pretention of Modernity or Post-Modernity. The expression is more important than the medium anyway.

"post-modern" isn't slang you idiot its used in the fields of social and cultural sciences. please go die.

edit : oh, and on the subject of "pretention", why don't you read your own post, you smarter-than-thou flipped out nay-sayer.

So then its jargon.
Useless jargon, designed to add some feeling of "exclusicivity" to the mundane.

It's vain snobbery, made clear by your reaction to his distaste for your little label.

If you like music just call it music...dont add some arbitrary label to make be more then what it is.

Useless distinction...you should ask yourself why you feel the need to use it.
Or to tell someone to go die because they dont agree with your "post-modern" opinion.

So then its jargon.
Useless jargon, designed to add some feeling of "exclusicivity" to the mundane.

It's vain snobbery, made clear by your reaction to his distaste for your little label.

If you like music just call it music...dont add some arbitrary label to make be more then what it is.

Useless distinction...you should ask yourself why you feel the need to use it.
Or to tell someone to go die because they dont agree with your "post-modern" opinion.

You're a frickin' idiot. Postmodern ERA as in PERIOD OF TIME. Music made in the POSTMODERN ERA is POSTMODERN music. How hard is it to understand ? Its not an opinion. His post was an opinion. Mine was just a statement.

Its not snobbery, its precision. Its not a useless distinction. Why do I use it ? Because I want to discuss genres that appeared during and after the 1970's, or that were allowed to thrive because of the postmodern ERA.

"post-modern" isn't slang you idiot its used in the fields of social and cultural sciences. please go die.

I was using a common phrase to create audience identification. You are, of course, correct. However, the semantics are unimportant.

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Flaming and telling people to die is frowned upon. You should stop it and edit your posts.

Celtic influences... Ever listen to Cruachan or perhaps Primordial? Just asking

Flaming and telling people to die is frowned upon. You should stop it and edit your posts.

Oh Please.

"Post-Modern" music is just slang for "we ran out of new things to do, so we'll just run together the stuff we've got." Like fusion cooking. Complete with the pretentious Yuppies. Give me music without the pretention of Modernity or Post-Modernity. The expression is more important than the medium anyway.

This is flaming.

"post-modern" isn't slang you idiot its used in the fields of social and cultural sciences. please go die.

edit : oh, and on the subject of "pretention", why don't you read your own post, you smarter-than-thou flipped out nay-sayer.

You're a frickin' idiot. Postmodern ERA as in PERIOD OF TIME. Music made in the POSTMODERN ERA is POSTMODERN music. How hard is it to understand ? Its not an opinion. His post was an opinion. Mine was just a statement.

Its not snobbery, its precision. Its not a useless distinction. Why do I use it ? Because I want to discuss genres that appeared during and after the 1970's, or that were allowed to thrive because of the postmodern ERA.

Calling everyone who has even the slightest bit of a different opinion then yourself an idiot and inviting them to die is not a very intelligent way to prevent a thread from devolving into a flame war, which, it would seem, was actually one of the original intentions of this thread, "This topic's goal is musical culture and knowledge, not flame war." Does this mean you're presence is conflicting with the very essence and intention of this thread?

Yes, yes it does.

If you can't civilly handle people actually differing in regard to your terminology and music references, let alone your tastes themselves, I will invite you to go get fucked. Behave or you'll be reported.

This is flaming.

That is expressing a dislike of post-modern music. Calling someone an idiot and telling them to go die is flaming. But feel free to argue your case to the mods (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527536).

You're a frickin' idiot. Postmodern ERA as in PERIOD OF TIME. Music made in the POSTMODERN ERA is POSTMODERN music. How hard is it to understand ? Its not an opinion. His post was an opinion. Mine was just a statement.

Its not snobbery, its precision. Its not a useless distinction. Why do I use it ? Because I want to discuss genres that appeared during and after the 1970's, or that were allowed to thrive because of the postmodern ERA.

Its precision? My my you are indeed full of yourself arent you.

So when you name precisely name a band that isnt as precise as telling someone you listen to "POst-modern" music.
I see, no that isnt a useless distinction.

...I didnt say it wasnt a real distinction I said it was useless. There are already any number of other useless yet no less real distinctions for music so you feel you must staple another one on.

Tell me oh sage of precision...without any other distinction what does Post-Modern music sound like?

Because if I pick up a ukelele and roland and bang out a four cord piece of shit it is as post-modern as Guns and Roses....you said it yourself ...its a time period, which is a completely useless distinction for MUSIC. Unless you are a Vain self absorbed snob who simply likes to add useless distinctions to an otherwise clear subject to make yourself feel more ... intellectual I suppose I dont even understand the need.

Precision would be saying you like zydecko, or bluegrass, or punk, or Samba, Salsa, Ska, Early Hardcore, Delta Blues, Chicago Blues, Texas Blues.


NOT

"I like Post-Modern Music"
There could be not much more a vague statement.
So put your insults away and stop being a snob.

Post-modern music is pretentious, self-aggrandising wank worthy of the most urbanely pi Guardian reader. Enter Shikari, riotously amusing though they are live, are evidence of this.

Is Morrissey "post-modern" music? No, yet it is arguably the most expressive and pertinent to have come from the UK for decades.

That is expressing a dislike of post-modern music. Calling someone an idiot and telling them to go die is flaming. But feel free to argue your case to the mods (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527536).

Indeed.

Ifreann and myself are disagreeing on an entirely stupid and arbitrary point and neither of us have reduced our selves to name calling and wishing death on the other.

I like Kaneka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_New_Caledonia) which is a new caledonian type of music.

Indeed.

Ifreann and myself are disagreeing on an entirely stupid and arbitrary point and neither of us have reduced our selves to name calling and wishing death on the other.

If i "reduce myself" to name calling. Its not because I disagree with you. Its because I expressed myself in english as clearly and precisely as I could, but you are still unable to understand the point of the OP. To not understand what I meant, and by NOT researching the meaning of "postmodern era" when you don't know what it means, yes, you and the precedent flamer have proven your idiocy and laziness.

Call me insulting, i'll just call myself a massive retaliator.

"Post-Modern" music is just slang for "we ran out of new things to do, so we'll just run together the stuff we've got." Like fusion cooking. Complete with the pretentious Yuppies. Give me music without the pretention of Modernity or Post-Modernity. The expression is more important than the medium anyway.
You mean like when that Post-Modern whore Joe Strummer combined reggae and rock influences in the "Guns of Brixton"? Or like any band who, rather than inventing a completely new set of intruments to play, instead falls back on those terribly unoriginal guitars and drums?
Or like Power Metal groups who can't think of anything worth while to say, so they just grab a few random selections from their old fantasy novels and set them to repetitive tunes?

If i "reduce myself" to name calling. Its not because I disagree with you. Its because I expressed myself in english as clearly and precisely as I could, but you are still unable to understand the point of the OP. To not understand what I meant, and by NOT researching the meaning of "postmodern era" when you don't know what it means, yes, you and the precedent flamer have proven your idiocy and laziness.

Call me insulting, i'll just call myself a massive retaliator.

And the mods will just call you warned.

Probably.

And the mods will just call you warned.

Probably.

That's to be expected. But faced by such intellectual dishonesty and laziness, I seriously don't care.

You mean like when that Post-Modern whore Joe Strummer combined reggae and rock influences in the "Guns of Brixton"? Or like any band who, rather than inventing a completely new set of intruments to play, instead falls back on those terribly unoriginal guitars and drums?
Or like Power Metal groups who can't think of anything worth while to say, so they just grab a few random selections from their old fantasy novels and set them to repetitive tunes?

"Terribly unoriginal guitars and drums"..... hmm, surely innovation is determined more by what one does with an instrument than by what it is? After all, would I be "post-modern" if I froze a turd, put a holow tube through it, and then used it as an instrument?

You mean like when that Post-Modern whore Joe Strummer combined reggae and rock influences in the "Guns of Brixton"?

He didn't. It were Paul Simonon what wrote that one.

That's to be expected. But faced by such intellectual dishonesty and laziness, I seriously don't care.

Intellectual dishonesty? Laziness? Given that you more or less admitted that you gave up trying to further explain your point once you became incapable of doing so, proceeded to resort to insults on people who disagreed with you, and then went on the psuedo-intellectual equivalent of "LOLZ U R TEH RETARD", I don't really think you have grounds to be defending yourself with allegations of intellectual dishonesty and laziness.

Intellectual dishonesty? Laziness? Given that you more or less admitted that you gave up trying to further explain your point once you became incapable of doing so, proceeded to resort to insults on people who disagreed with you, and then went on the psuedo-intellectual equivalent of "LOLZ U R TEH RETARD", I don't really think you have grounds to be defending yourself with allegations of intellectual dishonesty and laziness.

I haven't given up on explaining my point. Its all there in the OP. With an introduction and a main body. (no conclusion though, sorry about that.) It is also written in english, which seems to be the language used on this board. There is nothing to explain. Only things to read and understand.

Please tell me someone here got it...

If i "reduce myself" to name calling. Its not because I disagree with you. Its because I expressed myself in english as clearly and precisely as I could, but you are still unable to understand the point of the OP. To not understand what I meant, and by NOT researching the meaning of "postmodern era" when you don't know what it means, yes, you and the precedent flamer have proven your idiocy and laziness.

Call me insulting, i'll just call myself a massive retaliator.

No. I call you a simple minded child.
You never answered my question.
You claim the distinction of post modern adds precision to a discussion of music, not vain snobbery.

Then I ask again.

What does Post-Modern sound like? Because remember you are speaking of the Post Modern Era...not the Post Modern Style. YOU made that distinction quite clear. So how does your arbitrary distinction make the conversation more precise?


The question can not be answered because Post-Modern is not a tool of precision for the discussion of musical tastes...unless you are just trying to sound ...I dont know what you are trying to sound like to be honest.

You suggest not using this arbitrary and uselsss distinction in the context of musical tastes is somehow an indication of my lack of intelligence?

You are the best laugh I have had all week.

You're a frickin' idiot. Postmodern ERA as in PERIOD OF TIME. Music made in the POSTMODERN ERA is POSTMODERN music. How hard is it to understand ? Its not an opinion. His post was an opinion. Mine was just a statement.

Its not snobbery, its precision. Its not a useless distinction. Why do I use it ? Because I want to discuss genres that appeared during and after the 1970's, or that were allowed to thrive because of the postmodern ERA.

Very well, then, but what, pray tell, would come AFTER "post-"modern? Post Postmodern?

Seriously, pal, relax. If you like music with a Celtic bent, then just say so. Trying to come off like a guest lecturer at Cambridge just to distinguish your thread from all the other "what music do you like" threads is really unnecessary and earns you the labels and anti-posts you have already received.

I've got an Afro-Celt Sound System CD, they're okay. Live Celtic music is a joy to hear, and very little can move me like a heartfelt Celtic ballad. Electronica seems too soulless to me, but meh -- everyone loves something, or it wouldn't exist.

Remember, flaming and insane defensiveness never won a thread, or a reader.

"post-modern" isn't slang you idiot its used in the fields of social and cultural sciences.
So it's pretentious slang?

"Terribly unoriginal guitars and drums"..... hmm, surely innovation is determined more by what one does with an instrument than by what it is? After all, would I be "post-modern" if I froze a turd, put a holow tube through it, and then used it as an instrument?
I honestly have no idea what "post-modern" puports to mean, but I was trying to point out that combining various genres and reusing old standards in new ways has always been the only path open to most musicians in history.
To complain that "fusion" makes something unoriginal and crap leaves you with only a handful of musicians who actually qualify as good: the 18th century pianists, the first human to discover that banging two rocks together at a regular rhythm can be pleasing, and a few others.

So it's pretentious slang?

No, it is an utterly valid term, and entirely appropriate for the kind of mix and match music which the OP is talking about.

I honestly have no idea what "post-modern" puports to mean, but I was trying to point out that combining various genres and reusing old standards in new ways has always been the only path open to most musicians in history.

In this instance it mainly means that there is no 'right' way to make music, and so musicians are able to pick and chose from any tradition they like.

That's to be expected. But faced by such intellectual dishonesty and laziness, I seriously don't care.

Bwhahah way to go, by post 30 you have already pissed people off.

Truthfully though, 'please go and die' as a response to somebody not agreeing with your semantics certianly can be seen as flaming, and to be rough with people who then warn you to moderate your behavior before you get moderated, seems like a silly thing to do.

Shit though, do what ya wanna huh.

I honestly have no idea what "post-modern" puports to mean, but I was trying to point out that combining various genres and reusing old standards in new ways has always been the only path open to most musicians in history.
To complain that "fusion" makes something unoriginal and crap leaves you with only a handful of musicians who actually qualify as good: the 18th century pianists, the first human to discover that banging two rocks together at a regular rhythm can be pleasing, and a few others.

Indeed, but most fusion occurs between two genres that at least bear some similarity to each other, and is not conducted simply so as to be "post-modern".

As you all probably know, we live today in what is called the post-modern era.

You mean the future? :confused:

This topic's goal is musical culture and knowledge, not flame war.
[insert the irony poster here]

Indeed, but most fusion occurs between two genres that at least bear some similarity to each other, and is not conducted simply so as to be "post-modern".

Really?

So the eight-part a cappella vocal rendition of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon by the group Vocomotion could be classified as a fusion of choral music and rock. Similar? Not really.

I don't think Celtic and Electronica are all that similar save that much of both is dance music for one or another kind of dancing.

Your assertion that it's ridiculous that any fusion of any two kinds of music automatically means it's "post-modern" (whatever the frell that means with regard to anything) is, however, spot-on.

I would recommend experimental band Man Man and also experimental/electronic/indie band The Fiery Furnaces.

They're both really good, and really crazy. Unfortunately, I only have the latest release from each band ("Six Demon Bag" by Man Man, and "Bitter Tea" by the Fiery Furnaces.


Some others as well, but I have to go now.

Much of the music today is just a bland fusion of poppish melodies mixed with modern rock (which is just another fusion of different rocks) or another style such as latin or even just plain pop, marketed to young people who buy into the very highly defined producing of the song. The music that is truly original is just not that great. I think music has temporarily lost its soul, but i'm sure in a few years a new genre will be invented which will actually be pretty damn decent.

The smug level on both 'sides' of this thread is dangerously high. I recommend gas masks and thigh high rubber boots.

Much of the music today is just a bland fusion of poppish melodies mixed with modern rock (which is just another fusion of different rocks) or another style such as latin or even just plain pop, marketed to young people who buy into the very highly defined producing of the song. The music that is truly original is just not that great. I think music has temporarily lost its soul, but i'm sure in a few years a new genre will be invented which will actually be pretty damn decent.

Sorry dude, reality isnt MTV.

Even through your ideas can and totaly explain pop and mtv music, it doesnt explain what is going on with the world. The world never had such an original and creative movement as it has today. Of course, the "problem" is that most of it is underground and too "Original" to be broadily advertised and comercialized.

Meaning that, if you like music, you couldnt live in a better time. You just have to dig down and find the good stuff that is lying under so much pop crap.

Btw, where are the mods? This is the perfect example on where a very good thread is getting ruined by semantic lawyers dicks who believe they can make their dick grow larger by trying to prove a useless point.

Anyway, right now I´m looking for diferent and exotic stuff. One band that offers me that is Azam Ali (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azam_ali), which has a mixture of iranian, indian and electronic music. Its pretty good stuff.

Also yesterday I found this irish band called The Tim Malloys (http://www.timmalloys.com/), which is quite interesting. Their sound has a lot of irish influence, and its quite raw and autentic. And it can be also quite funny, if you take into regard the accent of some of the singers. You can download their first album for free, and I recomend the song Twa Corbies.

The music that is truly original is just not that great.

I can't agree with that. The situation at the moment is fantastic; it's never been easier for someone with original ideas to record and produce their music themselves and put it out in reach of the public. All that is required is the patience and desire to look for it.

The smug level on both 'sides' of this thread is dangerously high. I recommend gas masks and thigh high rubber boots.

Yes, but enough of your fantasies :p

I can't agree with that. The situation at the moment is fantastic; it's never been easier for someone with original ideas to record and produce their music themselves and put it out in reach of the public. All that is required is the patience and desire to look for it.

Of course i'm just sayin my opinion. I should have said "not that great to me", I like it and enjoy modern music but I just don't think it's amazing with the exception of a few bands.

Sorry dude, reality isnt MTV.

Even through your ideas can and totaly explain pop and mtv music, it doesnt explain what is going on with the world. The world never had such an original and creative movement as it has today. Of course, the "problem" is that most of it is underground and too "Original" to be broadily advertised and comercialized.

Meaning that, if you like music, you couldnt live in a better time. You just have to dig down and find the good stuff that is lying under so much pop crap.


Oh don't worry i'm totally aware of that. I'm involved in the underground funk scene in my city (I play guitar in a funk band). Again i'm not saying theres no talent, theres shitloads of talent. But I don't think that there is any new and exciting genre emerging that hasn't already occured.

As you all probably know, we live today in what is called the post-modern era.You mean the future? :confused:

I declare this post the winner. Topic over.

I declare this post the winner. Topic over.

Shit! Even in the future nothing works! :D

If i "reduce myself" to name calling. Its not because I disagree with you. Its because I expressed myself in english as clearly and precisely as I could, but you are still unable to understand the point of the OP. To not understand what I meant, and by NOT researching the meaning of "postmodern era" when you don't know what it means, yes, you and the precedent flamer have proven your idiocy and laziness.

Call me insulting, i'll just call myself a massive retaliator.

No, I'll called you forumbanned for a day. When you come back, perhaps you'd care to read OUR definition of flaming before you do any more of it. Click the link in my sig.

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No, I'll called you forumbanned for a day. When you come back, perhaps you'd care to read OUR definition of flaming before you do any more of it. Click the link in my sig.

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I wish I had skipped to the last page of this thread at first, it would've saved me a lot of copy/pasting The Plenty's responses.

You mean like when that Post-Modern whore Joe Strummer combined reggae and rock influences in the "Guns of Brixton"? Or like any band who, rather than inventing a completely new set of intruments to play, instead falls back on those terribly unoriginal guitars and drums?
Or like Power Metal groups who can't think of anything worth while to say, so they just grab a few random selections from their old fantasy novels and set them to repetitive tunes?

Oh, don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with music produced in the era that "Social Scientists" (who, and for what reason, I don't know) dub "Post-Modern". I was just pointing out the stupidity of trying to associate Post-Modernity with any quality or lack thereof, and that the way he was talking about it made it sound less like music, and more like some pretentious Yuppie guest lecturing at "profession day" as a local High School because he once owned a guitar. Music is about expression. Form is just a medium.

Oh don't worry i'm totally aware of that. I'm involved in the underground funk scene in my city (I play guitar in a funk band). Again i'm not saying theres no talent, theres shitloads of talent. But I don't think that there is any new and exciting genre emerging that hasn't already occured.

Yes there is. Nu-Rave. If only because any nu-rave kid I see is more punchable than any Gangsta kid.

CDs (no order):

Reign in Blood (Slayer - USA thrash)
Endless Pain (Kreator - German thrash)
Pleasure to Kill (Kreator - German thrash)
Darkness Descends (Dark Angel - USA thrash)
By Inheritance (Artillery - Danish thrash)
Heartwork (Carcass - UK melodeath)
Bonded by Blood (Exodus - USA thrash)
Kill 'Em All (Metallica - USA thrash)
The Years of Decay (Overkill - USA thrash)
Seven Churches (Possessed - USA death)
Feel the Fire (Overkill - USA thrash)
Hell Awaits (Slayer - USA thrash)
South of Heaven (Slayer - USA thrash)
Seasons in the Abyss (Slayer - USA thrash)
Show No Mercy (Slayer - USA thrash)
Agent Orange (Sodom - German thrash)
Eternal Nightmare (Vio-lence - USA thrash)

erm...bands with no particular favorite CD but plenty of songs: Amon Amarth (Swedish melodeath), Pantera (USA groove metal), Meshuggah (Swedish progressive/tech metal), Destruction (German thrash)

notice any sort of pattern in my tastes?;)

CDs (no order):

Reign in Blood (Slayer - USA thrash)
Endless Pain (Kreator - German thrash)
Pleasure to Kill (Kreator - German thrash)
Darkness Descends (Dark Angel - USA thrash)
By Inheritance (Artillery - Danish thrash)
Heartwork (Carcass - UK melodeath)
Bonded by Blood (Exodus - USA thrash)
Kill 'Em All (Metallica - USA thrash)
The Years of Decay (Overkill - USA thrash)
Seven Churches (Possessed - USA death)
Feel the Fire (Overkill - USA thrash)
Hell Awaits (Slayer - USA thrash)
South of Heaven (Slayer - USA thrash)
Seasons in the Abyss (Slayer - USA thrash)
Show No Mercy (Slayer - USA thrash)
Agent Orange (Sodom - German thrash)
Eternal Nightmare (Vio-lence - USA thrash)

erm...bands with no particular favorite CD but plenty of songs: Amon Amarth (Swedish melodeath), Pantera (USA groove metal), Meshuggah (Swedish progressive/tech metal), Destruction (German thrash)

notice any sort of pattern in my tastes?;)

I'm guessing your into techno?

'Post-modern' as a term is rather vague and has never been defined well. Considering it's use, it would more easily describe the situation of 'classical' music becoming more accepting of 'popular' genres in the 1970s and a polystylistic normality for most composers since then. A definition would have to describe the synthesising of avant garde ('modernisn') and past ideas and concepts. The whole notion has been heavily influenced by recording technology in the past century. Concering originality, there was a topic about this last week.

Uh...In no particular order...

Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables (Dead Kennedys, Hardcore Punk)
Nevermind (Nirvana, Grunge)
Reflections (Apocalyptica, Cello Rock/Metal)
Dopethrone (Electric Wizard, Sludge Epic Stoner Doom Metal)
New Day Rising (Husker Du, Hardcore Punk)
Plastic Surgery Disasters/In God We Trust, Inc. (Dead Kennedys, Hardcore Punk)
In Utero (Nirvana, Grunge)
The Dark Side of the Moon (Pink Floyd, Acid Rock)
Animals (Pink Floyd, Acid Rock)
Permanent Waves (Rush, Hard Rock)
Reckoning Night (Sonata Arctica, Power Metal)

I'm guessing your into techno?

how did u kno!:eek:

To hop the bandwagon...

CDs:

Orchid - Chaos Is Me/Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!
Orchid - Totality
Agoraphobic Nosebleed - Bestial Machinery
Pig Destroyer - 38 Counts Of Battery
Converge - Jane Doe
Converge - Petitioning The Empty Sky
Ampere - All Our Tommorows End Today
Charles Bronson - Discocrapy
Bucket Full Of Teeth - 1
Bucket Full Of Teeth - 2
Bucket Full Of Teeth - 3
Bucket Full Of Teeth - 4

:D

Amon Amarth (Swedish melodeath),

They are half-decent, but Dethklok > all other metal.

!WALL OF TEXT WARNING!
I listen to just about everything, I don't care what the lyrics are, what the story is, what the hidden meaning is, or anything else of the sort; I only listen to music for the sheer sound of it.
Here're some of my favorites:
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DragonForce | Speed Metal/Fantasy Metal | I like DragonForce for the unbelievable speed, semi-incredible length of the songs, and the incredulous guitar solos. If you like fast, loud, long hair, or any combination of the three, check DF out.
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Opeth | Heavy/"Death" Metal | I like Opeth for two reasons: the strength of the songs, and their lead vocalist. Seriously, the guy sounds like Satan. I hear they don't use voice/sound editing either... well I saw one of their concerts, he sounds the same as on CD, and that's awesome.
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Dream Theater | Fantasy/Melodic Rock(?) | I'm not sure what to make of Dream Theater sometimes, however, I do know that they're good. Very good. Although, if you don't like ridiculously long songs, I wouldn't recommend checking them out... most of their songs that I have are about 10-15 minutes long.
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Devil Driver; Lamb of God; Bleeding Through | Metal (of sorts) | They're all heavy bands; it's basically all 'Anger Music'. I just listen to it when I'm all pissed off and such.
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Children of Bodom | Metal | Children of Bodom is simply awesome. If you like slight screaming and some nice, comprehensible guitar solos, check these guys out. I love 'em.
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Dark Tranquillity | Scandinavian Metal | They're from friggin' SCANDINAVIA. And they ROCK. Check out their music video "Lost to Apathy" on Youtube, if you can.
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Mushroomhead | Metal | If you haven't heard Mushroomhead before, rest assured: I'm gonna hunt you down and kick you in the cervix, even if you are a man.
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Trivium | More Metal! | Okay last band. Trivium's good at solos, and speed as well, though I don't think their lead vocalist is very good at the whole screaming thing... which is all he does. However their backup vocalist is quite awesome. Check them out if you want something heavier, but not too heavy.
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OKAY, Sorry for the wall of text...;)

I declare this post the winner. Topic over.
Agreed.
Shit! Even in the future nothing works! :D
Question: When does the Past, or History, end, and when does the Future begin?

They are half-decent, but Dethklok > all other metal.

Obviously.

They are half-decent, but Dethklok > all other metal.

:D

So then its jargon.
Useless jargon, designed to add some feeling of "exclusicivity" to the mundane.

It's vain snobberyJust because you are unclear on the meaning of a word (as you seem to be with post-modernism) does not mean that it is 'useless jargon' and anyone who refers to it is a snob. Your position is childish and absurd. According to my own observations, "post modern" refers to a particular strain of art and philosophy that incorporates ideas of relativity and recontextualization. I find that much of the art is worthless and the philosophy bunk, but I've managed to find a few gems of truth and beauty in the post modernist dung heap.

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Permanent Waves (Rush, Hard Rock)
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Wow, I was listening to Natural Science as I read this... for the 1st time in about 5 years. How bizarre :O

I find that much of the art is worthless and the philosophy bunk, but I've managed to find a few gems of truth and beauty in the post modernist dung heap.

Emphasis on few, of course. Alan Sokal's wonderful prank showed us just how much bullshit postmodernism actually contains. You've really got to pan for the few slender nuggets of gold that the movement contains.