NationStates Jolt Archive


Proles and animals are free!

Call to power
21-05-2007, 11:58
I was thinking today about the proles or to be more specific the folk who don't care about anything beyond there day to day lives.

now I'd be rather silly to try and isolate myself from other humans (after all I really don't get classical music), but this phenomenon that is the common man a force that is capable of smashing whole empires and disappearing as quickly as it came, the exact indicator of how much we can achieve if we apply ourselves yet still a source of at many a time great shame.

can it last? education around the world has been improving for hundred if not centuries and yet we are still no closer to having a society that cares (if anything it is less see: voter turnouts)

can it be tapped by some exact method like so many have tried with mixed results?

and most of all what makes you post on a political science forum?

well since this is my OP I think I should jam in my answers:

1) yes the population will always be discontent and frustrated with politics essentially democracy seems to kill itself and though you do hear grumbles it never amounts to the talk of what can be done about it (a good thing?)

2) I say a resounding no, the population can choose to worship person/s but there will always be large numbers of dissidents sitting at the wings (proof that peers are more powerful than politics?)

3) I'm on here because, I guess I always seek out new viewpoints and I enjoy the learning of cultures and nations (yes I'm a massive geek:p)

"and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."
The Plenty
21-05-2007, 12:06
1) What ?
2) What ?
3) A what ? Political Science forum ? *snorts* This isn't a Political Science forum.
Call to power
21-05-2007, 12:15
1) What ? read the question
2) What ? read the question
3) A what ? Political Science forum ? *snorts* This isn't a Political Science forum.

it seems to encompass all the things politics :)
Isidoor
21-05-2007, 12:29
I was thinking today about the proles or to be more specific the folk who don't care about anything beyond there day to day lives. i understand it until here :(

now I'd be rather silly to try and isolate myself from other humans (after all I really don't get classical music), but this phenomenon that is the common man a force that is capable of smashing whole empires and disappearing as quickly as it came, the exact indicator of how much we can achieve if we apply ourselves yet still a source of at many a time great shame. <= could you please clarify this paragraph?

can it last? education around the world has been improving for hundred if not centuries and yet we are still no closer to having a society that cares (if anything it is less see: voter turnouts) can what last?

can it be tapped by some exact method like so many have tried with mixed results?

and most of all what makes you post on a political science forum?

well since this is my OP I think I should jam in my answers:

1) yes the population will always be discontent and frustrated with politics essentially democracy seems to kill itself and though you do hear grumbles it never amounts to the talk of what can be done about it (a good thing?)

2) I say a resounding no, the population can choose to worship person/s but there will always be large numbers of dissidents sitting at the wings (proof that peers are more powerful than politics?)

3) I'm on here because, I guess I always seek out new viewpoints and I enjoy the learning of cultures and nations (yes I'm a massive geek:p)

"and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."

myeah, the bold stuff is mine, i guess i'm just really dumb today
The Plenty
21-05-2007, 12:36
read the question
read the question

This is not meant as an insult, but your post is unreadable. Please make it clearer. (apparently i'm not the only one having trouble here)


it seems to encompass all the things politics :)

With Political Sciences being a blatant exception.
Kryozerkia
21-05-2007, 13:36
Incentives, incentives, incentives!

People know they should vote but they don't have the incentive too. They see the process as weak because the candidates tend to be garbage some days and it's nothing more than choosing between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

People are generally disenfranchised because of the corruption and the seeming pettiness that goes into (re)election campaigns.