Would You Ever...
Darknovae
21-05-2007, 00:47
let your teenage son/daughter on NSG?
Would you? Seriously?
This needs an explanation. Obviously I said teenage because there wouldn't be many under-13's here (except for Orlzenheimerness), and as for adults... well, you can't really stop them, can you?
But to those of you who have already seen NSG... would you let your kids on here?
Just cuirous...
Poll is here!
Why not? NSG has turned me into the intelligent, well-adjusted person that I am.
oops. um...
Atopiana
21-05-2007, 00:48
What? Yes. Of course. Duh. Why wouldn't I? It's up to them - if/when I have them that is - what websites they access via their neural implant networks. :p
Fuck, yes.
A teenage son or daughter who couldn't argue a political or philosophical point effectively would be a bore.
AB Again
21-05-2007, 00:49
Yes. Why shouldn't I? (NSG is no more insane the world in general, and certainly a lot safer.)
define "teenager". Not only would i let an 18 or 19 year old child on...I would have little choice in the matter.
Jello Biafra
21-05-2007, 00:50
I don't particularly see why anyone wouldn't.
The Metal Horde
21-05-2007, 00:51
Yes.
Ashmoria
21-05-2007, 00:52
well my son introduced me to nationstates so yeah i guess i would
but
ARE YOU CRAZY? the last thing i need is to be crushed by my own son in an online debate!
Sure I would. I might be on at the same time the first few times and I'd probably talk to them about it and try to make it educational but yes.
New Manvir
21-05-2007, 00:53
Teenage Son or Daughter!?! I must have impregnated a woman at the age of 2 or 3.....:(
AB Again
21-05-2007, 00:54
define "teenager". Not only would i let an 18 or 19 year old child on...I would have little choice in the matter.
An 18 or 19 year old is not a child. (Unless they are mentally handicapped)
Gataway_Driver
21-05-2007, 00:55
Probably, i think it would challenge my child in a positive way. And in some ways me aswell.
Atopiana
21-05-2007, 00:55
Seriously, as soon as my kids are self-confident and self-aware enough to behave responsibly and freely - then they can do what they like. Sure, I'll be there to give them a hand if they ask for it or need it, but why would I monitor their internet useage? That's just creepy and controlling in my books.
Kids are people too!
I'm 16, znd I can safly sez dat I'm inteligent enuf to huld a complux politcul coversaziton
Don't we all love Stereotypes?
Only n00bs love stereotypes. :rolleyes:
Swilatia
21-05-2007, 00:56
Yes. After all, censorship is wrong. There are absolutely no exceptions to this.
Gataway_Driver
21-05-2007, 00:58
An 18 or 19 year old is not a child. (Unless they are mentally handicapped)
really ?
In my country they act like children only they have alcohol instead of sugar in them
Darknovae
21-05-2007, 00:58
Teenage Son or Daughter!?! I must have impregnated a woman at the age of 2 or 3.....:(
Dude... you've beat Lina Medina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina)! :eek:
Anyway... I'm askign this because apparently my mother, for some reason, does not like NSG. Perhaps it is because of my beliefs... :(
However she hasn't stopped me, save for that time around January... >.>
Hynation
21-05-2007, 00:58
Only n00bs love stereotypes. :rolleyes:
damn... noobed
AB Again
21-05-2007, 00:59
Yes. After all, censorship is wrong. There are absolutely no exceptions to this.
Kiddie porn?
New Manvir
21-05-2007, 01:00
Dude... you've beat Lina Medina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina)! :eek:
Anyway... I'm askign this because apparently my mother, for some reason, does not like NSG. Perhaps it is because of my beliefs... :(
However she hasn't stopped me, save for that time around January... >.>
I am a teen and i use NSG, why wouldn't I let my teenage child use it....
AB Again
21-05-2007, 01:01
really ?
In my country they act like children only they have alcohol instead of sugar in them
Oh. I won't argue with you about them often behaving like children, but officially they are not children (in many places).
Deus Malum
21-05-2007, 01:02
let your teenage son/daughter on NSG?
Would you? Seriously?
This needs an explanation. Obviously I said teenage because there wouldn't be many under-13's here (except for Orlzenheimerness), and as for adults... well, you can't really stop them, can you?
But to those of you who have already seen NSG... would you let your kids on here?
Just cuirous...
Probably with considerable supervision. I mean, it's certainly going to give them the opportunity to learn a thing or two about debating and possibly a few things their school or me and my (hypothetical) wife haven't gotten around to teaching them yet.
Plus, given that there already are a bunch of teens on hear, who tend to be a tad cliquish, they'd probably have a nice cozy place to hang out and shoot the breeze as well, when they're not playing outside with their (hypothetical) friends.
Or they'll spend the rest of their teenage years quoting the OP and adding nothing more than "Lolz" <.< >.>
Call to power
21-05-2007, 01:04
as if they would get a chance to go on my computer :p
and I would be against it anyway as it is....my space!
Who else doesn't think you'd really be able to stop them?
Deus Malum
21-05-2007, 01:06
Who else doesn't think you'd really be able to stop them?
Me.
Atopiana
21-05-2007, 01:07
Anyway... I'm askign this because apparently my mother, for some reason, does not like NSG. Perhaps it is because of my beliefs... :(
What are your beliefs and why would that reflect badly on NSG? Or vice-versa? :confused:
What are your beliefs and why would that reflect badly on NSG? Or vice-versa? :confused:
From what I remember, Pancake told her parents she was an athiest and her parents sort of freaked. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Call to power
21-05-2007, 01:10
Who else doesn't think you'd really be able to stop them?
it shouldn't be too hard, my dad didn't have to try very hard to get me to despise Bruce Springsteen
plus by the time I have kids this forum will be mostly populated by OAP's debating about what actually happened in the good old days and how back in our day kids knew to respect there elders :mad:
Darknovae
21-05-2007, 01:11
What are your beliefs and why would that reflect badly on NSG? Or vice-versa? :confused:
She doesn't liek that I'm an atheist, and she thinks NSG had something to do with it.
And I wasn't askign if you could stop them (probably couldn't... :p sorry) but would you mind? (I should have worded the OP better... :()
Infinite Revolution
21-05-2007, 01:11
yep.
Darknovae
21-05-2007, 01:13
From what I remember, Pancake told her parents she was an athiest and her parents sort of freaked. Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're pretty much right. :(
Atopiana
21-05-2007, 01:14
From what I remember, Pancake told her parents she was an athiest and her parents sort of freaked. Correct me if I'm wrong.
:headbang: Arrrrgh! People are free individuals who can make up their own minds! Freaking is not the correct response! :headbang:
*ahem*
No, I would not mind. I would always support my children in their endeavours, even if it ran counter to my own beliefs and systems of thought.
Gataway_Driver
21-05-2007, 01:15
Oh. I won't argue with you about them often behaving like children, but officially they are not children (in many places).
offical or not it should be treated the same. They act like it they should be treated like it :)
offical or not it should be treated the same. They act like it they should be treated like it :)
Of course, I would argue that plenty of people much older then that are just as immature. Some fifty year olds should be treated as children, and some eleven year olds should be able to vote. But that's not how our society works.
Darknovae
21-05-2007, 01:25
Of course, I would argue that plenty of people much older then that are just as immature. Some fifty year olds should be treated as children, and some eleven year olds should be able to vote. But that's not how our society works.
I'm glad I wasn't able to vote when I was 11... :eek:
Gataway_Driver
21-05-2007, 01:34
Of course, I would argue that plenty of people much older then that are just as immature. Some fifty year olds should be treated as children, and some eleven year olds should be able to vote. But that's not how our society works.
shame but hey.
Imperial isa
21-05-2007, 01:36
if it still around when i have kids i think no
Kinda Sensible people
21-05-2007, 01:47
What age? A 13-14 year old? No. But 15+? Well... Stopping them would be sheer hypocrisy. Besides which, NSG provides a great place to treat right wingers abusively. :p
As soon as my kid turns 13, I'm introducing them to NSG.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-05-2007, 02:32
On NSG? Absolutely.
Why not? They'd actually learn something for once.
The Metal Horde
21-05-2007, 02:33
As soon as my kid turns 13, I'm introducing them to NSG.
Ah, like a rite of passage? That sounds like a good idea.
yes, if only to give them real world examples of logical fallacies.
Ah, like a rite of passage? That sounds like a good idea.
Yep, this would happen right after that big important sex ed talk.
Infinite Revolution
21-05-2007, 02:38
i voted 'not at all' but then i remembered they should be warned also. they should be warned not to flame or be otherwise irritating. i remember what i was like when i was a kid. i don't think the content of this site need censored in any way. not more than the mods already do anyway.
Deus Malum
21-05-2007, 02:41
yes, if only to give them real world examples of logical fallacies.
Aye, they'll get plenty of that, :p
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-05-2007, 02:42
Yep, this would happen right after that big important sex ed talk.Hmmm.... I say just let them on NS right away and you can save yourself some talking. :p
An 18 or 19 year old is not a child. (Unless they are mentally handicapped)
I was using the word "child" to mean offspring, or progeny. In that sense, I am pushing 30, yet I am my mother's child.
Hmmm.... I say just let them on NS right away and you can save yourself some talking. :p
That's even better.:) I can just let NSG see to them during their teenage years, while I just have to make sure they are properly fed, relatively sane, happy, not in jail etc.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-05-2007, 02:51
That's even better.:) I can just let NSG see to them during their teenage years, while I just have to make sure they are properly fed, relatively sane, happy, not in jail etc.Yup. Of course it's not like NSG would necessarily be helping you in those regards.
Deus Malum
21-05-2007, 02:54
Yup. Of course it's not like NSG would necessarily be helping you in those regards.
Well, it's not going to affect how well fed they are...
Yup. Of course it's not like NSG would necessarily be helping you in those regards.
My future kids will be spending too much time on NSG to be committing any crimes. Besides, they'd know that if they went to jail, there'd probably be no internet, meaning no NSG.
New Genoa
21-05-2007, 03:09
I wouldn't give a shit.
I can't imagine that my kids would be that interested. I don't even have kids yet, so let's say I do in...3 to 5 years. Then allow some time for them to be interested in the internet, let's say they'd be 16. That's 5 + 16 = 21 years. Do you really think it will still be around? Even if it is, I think there will be more and more advances so there will be much cooler stuff going on than NationStates.
Nobel Hobos
21-05-2007, 03:19
I don't have kids.
I can't answer the question. Any opinion I might give about what I'd allow teenage kids to do would be a wild guess. It would depend on the kid, and after 12+ years of parenthood my attitude would certainly be so different that ... I can't even guess.
But I will say that there may be many kids here, impersonating adults. Telling people that you're nine would be a great way of having your opinions ignored, while possibly attracting the wrong kind of attention.
It says over there <---- that I have MSN. Not sure if it works yet?
Hynation
21-05-2007, 03:22
I don't have kids.
I can't answer the question. Any opinion I might give about what I'd allow teenage kids to do would be a wild guess. It would depend on the kid, and after 12+ years of parenthood my attitude would certainly be so different that ... I can't even guess.
But I will say that there may be many kids here, impersonating adults. Telling people that you're nine would be a great way of having your opinions ignored, while possibly attracting the wrong kind of attention.
It says over there <---- that I have MSN. Not sure if it works yet?
What if you happen to be nine and present a good argument? That would be quite impressive for a nine year old to give a well-thought out opinion on neo-marxist ideals and their application into a labor based economy...that would be interesting...
Nobel Hobos
21-05-2007, 03:25
What if you happen to be nine and present a good argument? That would be quite impressive for a nine year old to give a well-thought out opinion on neo-marxist ideals and their application into a labor based economy...that would be interesting...
Exactly. And being treated as an adult in debate would be exactly what you'd want.
Being told it was your bedtime by almost-complete strangers, though ...
EDIT: I don't seem to be getting any messages here. Someone spam my new MSN please ...
Cookesland
21-05-2007, 03:26
i don't think my parents mind im on a website with various political radicals, nationalists, angsty teenagers, and crazy ppl
god how i love ns :D
Exactly. And being treated as an adult in debate would be exactly what you'd want.
thank you
Hynation
21-05-2007, 03:27
Exactly. And being treated as an adult in debate would be exactly what you'd want.
Being told it was your bedtime by almost-complete strangers, though ...
right, so as teenagers we have a right to come here and be able to debate with adults about such archaic things like politics...I won't always...but I want my rights :D
Nobel Hobos
21-05-2007, 03:47
I'm happy for NSGers to know my age, because being 43 neither qualifies nor disqualifies me to have an opinion. It's a bit on the high end of ages here it seems, but meh.
There are other things I'd prefer to keep secret, out of a strong sense that I'd be 'ad hominemed' for them.
Like Martin Luther King said: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character"
Replace "nation" by "world" and replace "the colour of their skin " with "anything " and you've got pretty much my dream.
That's not the world we live in though ...
Sominium Effectus
21-05-2007, 04:00
I AM a teenage son and I'm really not supposed to be on here right now, but I am anyway because I can't bear going a day without a political or philosophical discussion.
Extreme Ironing
21-05-2007, 09:17
If I ever have children, I don't plan on restricting them on the internet, and would gladly show them which websites I frequent and what they offer. NSG offers a lot of things, interesting discussion and knowledge, humour.
Philosopy
21-05-2007, 09:23
No, I wouldn't. The anonymity of the place would be somewhat compromised by having your kid here.
Soleichunn
21-05-2007, 11:15
She doesn't liek that I'm an atheist, and she thinks NSG had something to do with it.
*Sends evil Atheist radiation over NSG via teh internets*
It's be more me forcing them to go on NSG than me letting them.
Harlesburg
21-05-2007, 12:04
I can't imagine that my kids would be that interested. I don't even have kids yet, so let's say I do in...3 to 5 years. Then allow some time for them to be interested in the internet, let's say they'd be 16. That's 5 + 16 = 21 years. Do you really think it will still be around? Even if it is, I think there will be more and more advances so there will be much cooler stuff going on than NationStates.
If you were here 2 years ago, you'd never had said that!:eek::(
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I'd hardly be encouraging them to go on NS, too many unhinged Mo Fo's around.
The blessed Chris
21-05-2007, 14:00
Not if I'm here, no.
Rejistania
21-05-2007, 14:00
I would allow them to join NS... but hey, it would be awkward if you argued with someone and then realized it was your son/daughter...