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Though I am now the counter-cultural Pancake you all know and love (though perhaps a little too much sometimes :eek:), I wasn't always this way. Back when I was 11 and 12, I was the typical American brat you all like to stereotype today.

And, of course, I liked teen magazines. They're actually not teen magazines, though. They're actually targeting 11 and 12 year olds who want to be cool just the the high-schoolers. And unfortunately, I was one of their victims.

If you flip open "Teen People", "Teen Vogue" or one of those likewise pieces of crap, you see... celebrities. And "new styles". Oh yeah, you'll see something that actually matters... for 3 pages... if that... But mostly it's "how to be sexy for the guys", "how to look hot for school", and "OMG LOOK AT BRITNEY SHE IS SUCH A WHORE... but we LOVE that hot hairdo and those sexy shoes!"

Despite the atrocious slang in teen magazines (nobody actually uses it is real life... seriously), I've become particularly annoyed by the usages of the word "sexy".

"sexy" is supposed to mean "sexually exciting." So why do all these teen magazines like to say "OMG this hairdo is SEXY!!!" "if you want to look sexy for the guys wear these UBERSEXY shoes!!1" "wearing this scarf will make you look SO SEXY for school..." :confused:

Does that mean all the 11 and 12 year olds who read those magazines should "look sexy"? Do the writers know that most of their readers are preteens? Do they really think that guys are going to want to have sex with/masturbate to a girl wearing a particular hairstyle/pair of shoes/scarf? Do hairstyles/shoes/scarves make girls sexy to guys? Do we want 11 and 12 year olds to look sexy?

Madness, I tell you...

Edit: THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A BLOG, SO DON'T WHINE THAT IT IS!!! YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS YOU KNOW!!!

...

Wut?

This is not your blog. I agree with you that this is madness, but this is not your blog.

YES...I declare war on all "teen" magazines!

This is not your blog. I agree with you that this is madness, but this is not your blog.

I wasn't blogging... :confused: why does everyone like to assume that every thread I make is a blog thread? :mad:

Though I am now the counter-cultural Pancake you all know and love (though perhaps a little too much sometimes :eek:), I wasn't always this way. Back when I was 11 and 12, I was the typical American brat you all like to stereotype today.

And, of course, I liked teen magazines. They're actually not teen magazines, though. They're actually targeting 11 and 12 year olds who want to be cool just the the high-schoolers. And unfortunately, I was one of their victims.

If you flip open "Teen People", "Teen Vogue" or one of those likewise pieces of crap, you see... celebrities. And "new styles". Oh yeah, you'll see something that actually matters... for 3 pages... if that... But mostly it's "how to be sexy for the guys", "how to look hot for school", and "OMG LOOK AT BRITNEY SHE IS SUCH A WHORE... but we LOVE that hot hairdo and those sexy shoes!"

Despite the atrocious slang in teen magazines (nobody actually uses it is real life... seriously), I've become particularly annoyed by the usages of the word "sexy".

"sexy" is supposed to mean "sexually exciting." So why do all these teen magazines like to say "OMG this hairdo is SEXY!!!" "if you want to look sexy for the guys wear these UBERSEXY shoes!!1" "wearing this scarf will make you look SO SEXY for school..." :confused:

Does that mean all the 11 and 12 year olds who read those magazines should "look sexy"? Do the writers know that most of their readers are preteens? Do they really think that guys are going to want to have sex with/masturbate to a girl wearing a particular hairstyle/pair of shoes/scarf? Do hairstyles/shoes/scarves make girls sexy to guys? Do we want 11 and 12 year olds to look sexy?

Madness, I tell you...

As a very heterosexual guy, allow me to weigh in on this. I don't care what shoes a girl is wearing. I don't care what scarf she's wearing. I care if she looks sexy and acts sexy. What is this, you may ask? It's being intelligent, not getting caught up in the good-looking arms race, and being able to act like a person, and not a spoiled valley girl/Jewish-American princess.

I'm done now.

They ues the word sexy to prey on the insecuer, fat and ugly. I know it's mean to say, and it's abit blunt. But I can't think of any other way to say it.


They just want peoples money, and they these groups are the easyest to get. X_x

I wasn't blogging... :confused: why does everyone like to assume that every thread I make is a blog thread? :mad:

It's an NS meme. Every time you post, someone bitches about it being blaggish in nature.

I wasn't blogging... :confused: why does everyone like to assume that every thread I make is a blog thread? :mad:

It's an NS meme. Every time you post, someone bitches about it being blaggish in nature.

Indeed. Sorry, but I figured someone was going to say it, so I thought I might as well, so someone who might actually mean it in a mean way wouldn't.

Carry on, Pancake.

It's an NS meme. Every time you post, someone bitches about it being blaggish in nature.

apparently it's a meme directed at me, since it pops up in every thread I make, even if there is no blogging going on. This thread certainly wasn't supposed to be a blog either.

And nobody else apparently recieves the "get a blog" gripe, so aparently it's just me.

Indeed. Sorry, but I figured someone was going to say it, so I thought I might as well, so someone who might actually mean it in a mean way wouldn't.

Carry on, Pancake.

So... you didn't think it was a blog either? :confused:

I don't give a dam about shoes or hair. I like the quality of boobs. And the taste of boobs given the chance.

And nobody else apparently recieves the "get a blog" gripe, so aparently it's just me.

Like the Pancake bit, I suppose...

Regardless, there's certainly a core of gooey legitimate-discussion in there.

I agree completely. I consider the sexualisation of girls at a younger and younger ages a worrying trend, as an indoctrinating influence, and a divisive one which can lead to cliques and alienation of those who can't, or don't want to, keep up with their supposedly more mature peers.:(

apparently it's a meme directed at me, since it pops up in every thread I make, even if there is no blogging going on. This thread certainly wasn't supposed to be a blog either.

And nobody else apparently recieves the "get a blog" gripe, so aparently it's just me.
Well, of course it's directed at you, seeing how you've made so many blog-like threads. So, no, not exactly a meme.

This one, however, is definitely not a bloggish one, so knock yourself out. :)

And nobody else apparently recieves the "get a blog" gripe, so aparently it's just me.
Actually, a few others have, though they're usually shut down by the mods--via thread moving to Spam--before anyone really notices.

So... you didn't think it was a blog either? :confused:

Nope. Though blogish, it has some definite legitimate discussion points going on in it, so it's not a blog post. As I said, carry on.

I think the males of the species should take a stand. If we don't like this stuff, we put up our backs. If they really want to attract guys so much, there's a small possibility of change. Because, really, they mostly impress other girls.

Well, of course it's directed at you, seeing how you've made so many blog-like threads. So, no, not exactly a meme.

This one, however, is definitely not a bloggish one, so knock yourself out. :)

Actually, I haven't made many bloggish threads. Not as many as people like to believe. I can only think of a few that have been bloggish, the others haven't been. Apparently since the creation of those few (which have long since been moved to Chat), everyone likes to jump in and yell "GET A BLOG" even when the thread isn't remotely bloggish. It's starting to make me think nobody's actually reading the threads, just assuming it is a blog and then yellign at me because they read it wrong. It's seriously starting to piss me off.

Actually, a few others have, though they're usually shut down by the mods--via thread moving to Spam--before anyone really notices. Yes, but nobody's gotten it constantly in every single thread they make.

Nope. Though blogish, it has some definite legitimate discussion points going on in it, so it's not a blog post. As I said, carry on. How in the hell is it bloggish? Okay... maybe the first part is... I've seen worse that have been left alone though. So why do I get that in every single thread? Even when I had a legitimate medical concern (over unwanted weight loss) people were screaming at me to get a blog.

Sex Sells...

even the Catholic Church (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqKhvthxvSo&mode=related&search=) is using it :P

400! I am now Sometimes Deadly!

This is madness

This is SPARTA!

(I had to)

Yes, but nobody's gotten it constantly in every single thread they make.

How in the hell is it bloggish? Okay... maybe the first part is... I've seen worse that have been left alone though. So why do I get that in every single thread? Even when I had a legitimate medical concern (over unwanted weight loss) people were screaming at me to get a blog.

But we can't has a flame w0r over something that isn't politics or musak!!!11oneone :P

But we can't has a flame w0r over something that isn't politics or musak!!!11oneone :P

So we can't have a flame war over pop culture, even though everyone here hates it anyway? :confused:

How in the hell is it bloggish? Okay... maybe the first part is... I've seen worse that have been left alone though. So why do I get that in every single thread? Even when I had a legitimate medical concern (over unwanted weight loss) people were screaming at me to get a blog.
I think it has to do with the way you phrase your threads to sound bloggish, if unintentionally. The best advice I have is to always ask others' opinions on the subject and/or provide examples of their own instances of whatever is happening to you, so you make it discussion worthy. That way, you avoid the blog comments.

This is SPARTA!

(I had to)

What's that from?

Actually, I haven't made many bloggish threads. Not as many as people like to believe. I can only think of a few that have been bloggish, the others haven't been. Apparently since the creation of those two (which have long since been moved to Chat), everyone likes to jump in and yell "GET A BLOG" even when the thread isn't remotely bloggish. It's starting to make me think nobody's actually reading the threads, just assuming it is a blog and then yellign at me because they read it wrong. It's seriously starting to piss me off.

Well, not really. These are the really, really bloggish ones of the last 6 weeks alone:
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526497
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525711
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525504
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523795
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=522572

And to be sure, that's not including things like this:
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518002
or the ones about the writing contest, because it's really not like you can't post ANYTHING related to your personal life here, that would be silly. Other users and mods are mostly tolerant when it comes to personal problems (like the first one) or special events (like the writing thing).

It's when it gets wholly devoid of so much as even a reasonable question to discuss that people pipe up.

Apart from that, I do agree that it would suck when people were to yell "blog!" whenever you post a thread. Except I'm not really seeing it (apart from Kyronea's "joke" earlier in this thread). And also, you're by now naturally gonna have somewhat less leeway in this regard than someone who usually NEVER makes a bloggish thread.
Other people have a similar problem. Wilgrove, for example, has had several of his threads moved to spam or chat right away because they were essentially blogs.

I don't give a dam about shoes or hair. I like the quality of boobs. And the taste of boobs given the chance.

The boobs of 11 and 12 year olds? :confused:

The boobs of 11 and 12 year olds? :confused:

You'd be suprised.

You'd be suprised.

*shudders*

(apart from Kyronea's "joke" earlier in this thread).

I'm guessing the joke was a bad idea, huh?

So, Pancake, as such, I apologize for the joke. I won't do it again.

*snip* Most of those were made when I was extremely tired/bored... though they are bloggish...

Edit: okay, the glitter one was made when i was really tired... and soem are rants... others were supposed to be discussions (like the one where i got grounded for 11 hours...)
Apart from that, I do agree that it would suck when people were to yell "blog!" whenever you post a thread. Except I'm not really seeing it (apart from Kyronea's "joke" earlier in this thread). And also, you're by now naturally gonna have somewhat less leeway in this regard than someone who usually NEVER makes a bloggish thread.
Other people have a similar problem. Wilgrove, for example, has had several of his threads moved to spam or chat right away because they were essentially blogs. Yeah... though my (other) threads sound bloggish, they normally do ask questions for discussion... like this one...

I'm guessing the joke was a bad idea, huh?

So, Pancake, as such, I apologize for the joke. I won't do it again.
You don't have to nt do it again... just make it clear that you're joking ;)

You'd be suprised.

Ain't that the truth.

You'd be suprised.

:eek:

Well, not really. These are the really, really bloggish ones of the last 6 weeks alone:
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526497
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525711
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525504
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523795
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=522572

And to be sure, that's not including things like this:
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518002
or the ones about the writing contest, because it's really not like you can't post ANYTHING related to your personal life here, that would be silly. Other users and mods are mostly tolerant when it comes to personal problems (like the first one) or special events (like the writing thing).

It's when it gets wholly devoid of so much as even a reasonable question to discuss that people pipe up.

Apart from that, I do agree that it would suck when people were to yell "blog!" whenever you post a thread. Except I'm not really seeing it (apart from Kyronea's "joke" earlier in this thread). And also, you're by now naturally gonna have somewhat less leeway in this regard than someone who usually NEVER makes a bloggish thread.
Other people have a similar problem. Wilgrove, for example, has had several of his threads moved to spam or chat right away because they were essentially blogs.

:eek: WYTYG, SuperSleuth, Strikes Again! :D

You don't have to nt do it again... just make it clear that you're joking ;)

Oh, okay. But then I'm horrible at that...I can convey tone and meaning quite well offline, but in text, I'm about as clear as the Mississippi river.

Oh, okay. But then I'm horrible at that...I can convey tone and meaning quite well offline, but in text, I'm about as clear as the Mississippi river.

Smilies can be helpful :)

'course, you're always as clear as the Mississippi ;)

And just as difficult to spell :p

See what I did there? :D

Ain't that the truth.

:eek:

So teen magazines are written by pedophiles/ephebophiles? (which one would preteens be? :confused:)

(I'm trying to get this thread back on topic, it got derailed in the fourth post... fastest threadjack ever! :eek:)

Smilies can be helpful :)

'course, you're always as clear as the Mississippi ;)

And just as difficult to spell :p

See what I did there? :D

Yes, but I have this odd and foolish feeling of disgust whenever I use an emoticon, as if I am simply being lazy about expressing my specific feelings on the matter. It's stupid, but I feel it.

:eek: WYTYG, SuperSleuth, Strikes Again! :D

http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=756106

:rolleyes::p

Well, some things are. Short hair is better then long hair on girls, for example. Red hair is better then blonde hair, white hair is better then red hair (Only if it's on a young person though. No old people. And not gray, actually white.), gray eyes are better then blue eyes, gothy clothes are better then mega-slut clothes, etc.

The problem with those things is the authors have no fucking idea what guys like, or, rarely, have a vague idea of what guys liked 20 years ago.

If it was written by guys of the age the majority of readers are, I guarantee the advice would work better.

:eek:

So teen magazines are written by pedophiles/ephebophiles? (which one would preteens be? :confused:)

(I'm trying to get this thread back on topic, it got derailed in the fourth post... fastest threadjack ever! :eek:)

Nah. It's the girls that want to act older, and somewhere along the line they got the idea that older girls are concerned with being sexy, so they too should be concerned with being sexy. The magazines realise this and figure "We can make a metric assload of money selling pre-teen girls guides on how to be sexy!".

Yes, but I have this odd and foolish feeling of disgust whenever I use an emoticon, as if I am simply being lazy about expressing my specific feelings on the matter. It's stupid, but I feel it.
Well when presenting subtle jokes and sarcasm, it's either that (you feeling a bit disgusted but ending up with less confusion) or using tags. [/lecture]

Sarcasm-tags seem to be popular ;)
http://forums1.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=756106

:rolleyes::p
Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
:confused:

I wasn't blogging... :confused: why does everyone like to assume that every thread I make is a blog thread? :mad:

Because 7/10 of them are. This one isn't so bad, but a lot of threads you have made are blog threads.

:confused:Link to Darknovae's threads. Apparently only works for me because I did the search in the first place. Nvm.

[/off-topic]

Link to Darknovae's threads. Apparently only works for me because I did the search in the first place. Nvm.

[/off-topic]
Ah. Another case closed, eh? *Puffs soap-bubble pipe*

And you reminded me that this thread has a topic. Excuse me...
*Saunters away*
Does that mean all the 11 and 12 year olds who read those magazines should "look sexy"?
No. They sell the idea. All "glamour" magazines do that. They don't expect their readers to be glamourous - these magazines don't expect preteens to be sexy, but it sells.

Do the writers know that most of their readers are preteens?
Probably. Probably don't care much though.
Do they really think that guys are going to want to have sex with/masturbate to a girl wearing a particular hairstyle/pair of shoes/scarf?
...um, you can drop the "wearing... " part. Teenage guys are that easy :p

Do hairstyles/shoes/scarves make girls sexy to guys?
It can contribute, but not in and by itself, no.

Do we want 11 and 12 year olds to look sexy?
No, not really, no.

Madness, I tell you...
Indeed.

...um, you can drop the "wearing... " part. Teenage guys are that easy :p


Oh, come on. You know that's BS.

Oh, come on. You know that's BS.

Not really. They're pretty easy. At least, I know I had little or no standards back when I was slightly younger.

Not really. They're pretty easy. At least, I know I had little or no standards back when I was slightly younger.

Yeah, pretty much.

Not really. They're pretty easy. At least, I know I had little or no standards back when I was slightly younger.
As opposed to now? ;)

As opposed to now? ;)

I never said things had changed since then. :p

Not really. They're pretty easy. At least, I know I had little or no standards back when I was slightly younger.

People are far to complex, both Men and Women to be so easily broken down into one-dimensional labels like sleazy and easy...

I like the words free, and breezy :D

As opposed to now? ;)

Are you saying we're immature, or just horny :p

earlier today I was in the supermarket doing .... some shopping!

Anyway I'm waiting at the check out and I looked at the entrance to the store and noticed a youngish lady and her daughter walk in. I guess the girl must have been 10 to 12, the mother mid thirties.

I have to admit that I was pretty revolted. The pair of them may as well have just walked in with no clothes on.

There is dressing sexily...but a 10-12 year old?

It boggles my mind....they are kids...not dolls to dress up in your own image.

Not really. They're pretty easy. At least, I know I had little or no standards back when I was slightly younger.

I'd agree with Gravlen on this, I went through my teenage years being v.hormonal. (Moreso than now)

earlier today I was in the supermarket doing .... some shopping!

Anyway I'm waiting at the check out and I looked at the entrance to the store and noticed a youngish lady and her daughter walk in. I guess the girl must have been 10 to 12, the mother mid thirties.

I have to admit that I was pretty revolted. The pair of them may as well have just walked in with no clothes on.

There is dressing sexily...but a 10-12 year old?

It boggles my mind....they are kids...not dolls to dress up in your own image.


Stuff like this bugs the crap outta me. Girls should be that, not try to portray a sexual image. I was pretty revolted also when I heard my 11-y/o neice singing My Humps (and not just cos the song is shit:p). Maybe I'm too old-fashioned *shrugs*

The media preys on groups that will provide them with lots of money, in this case young girls wanting to be grown-up, brainwashed into thinking they have to look/act a certain way because the magazines, friends, pop culture tell them to.

:eek:

*shudders*

What? Thelarche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelarche) is around ten years of age, innit?

What? Thelarche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelarche) is around ten years of age, innit?

Who else doesn't want to click that link, even if it is from Wikipedia?

Who else doesn't want to click that link, even if it is from Wikipedia?

I was cringing when Dina posted that, when I clicked it I discovered it's not so bad.:)

I was cringing when Dina posted that, when I clicked it I discovered it's not so bad.:)

:P

Don't ask the whiners not to whine, they can't help it poor dears.

I find your commentary relevant. The state of a country's culture and it's politics are linked.

Oh, come on. You know that's BS.
No, I know it's not...

Kinda not, at least :)
I'd agree with Gravlen on this...

Yay!

...

What did I say again?

No, I know it's not...

Kinda not, at least :)


Yay!

...

What did I say again?

You said "Shaolin9 is teh greatest guy/nation/being in existance, whatever he says goes FACT. Bow to him and bathe in his glory" :cool:

.......also something about teen boys being easy.

...um, you can drop the "wearing... " part. Teenage guys are that easy

You said "Shaolin9 is teh greatest guy/nation/being in existance, whatever he says goes FACT. Bow to him and bathe in his glory" :cool:

.......also something about teen boys being easy.

;)


Notice also how I manage to restrain myself from saying "and you should know" when you fell for my setup... All too easy, all too easy :p

i though everyone was saying "thats hot" or are we bringing "sexy" back? :p

.......also something about teen boys being easy.

Arguably, Teenage girls are the pretty much the same/same/worse.

;)


Notice also how I manage to restrain myself from saying "and you should know" when you fell for my setup... All too easy, all too easy :p

:p

Assuming I actually understood the general direction of the OP, I believe it simply takes too anachronistic, literal definition of "sexy". The strict definiton of "sexy" has been dispensed with in favour of one that allows for inclusion in the tranche of adjectives conferring beauty upon something, much like the alteration and colloquialisation of "awesome".

Incidentally, as we're discussing aesthetics, my new haircut is awesome. £38 well spent I feel:)

Stuff like this bugs the crap outta me. Girls should be that, not try to portray a sexual image. I was pretty revolted also when I heard my 11-y/o neice singing My Humps (and not just cos the song is shit:p). Maybe I'm too old-fashioned *shrugs*

The media preys on groups that will provide them with lots of money, in this case young girls wanting to be grown-up, brainwashed into thinking they have to look/act a certain way because the magazines, friends, pop culture tell them to.

Yeah. Thank fuck I'm not the only who thinks this! LOL

Personally I think its a dysfunction in the mother...trying to make the child look sexy to an adult male.

Yuck!

I also agree with your second paragraph...I mean what the fuck is a 12 year old doing thinking that a diet is a good thing...

Argh!

Incidentally, as we're discussing aesthetics, my new haircut is awesome. £38 well spent I feel:)

Who are you, John Edwards?

Who are you, John Edwards?

Who is?:p

Just vain I imagine.

I'm to sexah for this thread to sexah for this thread oh so sexah it hurts!

...Coming back on topic, I must say that this may be a problem. Just last week I was working at a school, and a six year old was reading a Little Mermaid book calling people "sexy" and "fugly", and honestly, it kinda made me wish the Soviets had taken over.

Yeah. Thank fuck I'm not the only who thinks this! LOL

Personally I think its a dysfunction in the mother...trying to make the child look sexy to an adult male.

Yuck!

I also agree with your second paragraph...I mean what the fuck is a 12 year old doing thinking that a diet is a good thing...

Argh!

Well I'd be a bit worried if you think kids being sexy is a good thing.:)

Kids are v.impressionable, so if they are constantly bombarded with a certain image they should fit or otherwise be labled fat/ugly/misfit etc. then some will try to find a way of attaining said image through diets etc.

Yeah. Thank fuck I'm not the only who thinks this! LOL

Personally I think its a dysfunction in the mother...trying to make the child look sexy to an adult male.

Yuck!

I also agree with your second paragraph...I mean what the fuck is a 12 year old doing thinking that a diet is a good thing...

Argh!

I can agree with the "mother" thing, all the kids I know that are trying to be "sexy" have mom's who are irresponsible and weak. I literally know a 3 year old who wears make up and halter tops......it so grosses me out and worries me, I mean where does she go from there?!

That's what I was trying to explain to my 5 year old, once you hit "grown up" there's not much more after that, so that's why she can't wear a bra, or get her ears pierced or dye her hair or wear make-up. She can do 5 year old things, like ride her bike without training wheels, and check the mail by herself, and wear backless shoes, and beaded bracelets.

Incidentally, as we're discussing aesthetics, my new haircut is awesome. £38 well spent I feel:)

£38 on a haircut.....Joo was mugged!

*wants pictoral proof*

I'm to sexah for this thread to sexah for this thread oh so sexah it hurts!

Oh dear.

£38 on a haircut.....Joo was mugged!

*wants pictoral proof*

Got facebook or Myspace? I'm putting new photo's up soon.

Darknovae, some people are just nasty.

I got stuff aimed at me, and JUST me, on another forum, even when other people did the same thing or something similar in what they wrote.

You know it aint a blog. Most other people know it aint a blog. The other people just like being trollish apparently.

Got facebook or Myspace? I'm putting new photo's up soon.

Nope.

I can agree with the "mother" thing, all the kids I know that are trying to be "sexy" have mom's who are irresponsible and weak. I literally know a 3 year old who wears make up and halter tops......it so grosses me out and worries me, I mean where does she go from there?!

That's what I was trying to explain to my 5 year old, once you hit "grown up" there's not much more after that, so that's why she can't wear a bra, or get her ears pierced or dye her hair or wear make-up. She can do 5 year old things, like ride her bike without training wheels, and check the mail by herself, and wear backless shoes, and beaded bracelets.

What the hell!?

£38 on a haircut.....Joo was mugged!

*wants pictoral proof*

I recently got a haircut that cost more than that, and I was unhappy with it :(

But later, I got another one that was cheaper, and that one I loved :)

I recently got a haircut that cost more than that, and I was unhappy with it :(

But later, I got another one that was cheaper, and that one I loved :)

Was it a perm?:)

What the hell!?

yeah. we know a lot of pageant kids too, I won't even get into how screwed up that whole culture is.

YES...I declare war on all "teen" magazines!

If you're going to led the assault, my nuclear arsenal is at your disposal...

:eek:

So teen magazines are written by pedophiles/ephebophiles? (which one would preteens be? :confused:)

(I'm trying to get this thread back on topic, it got derailed in the fourth post... fastest threadjack ever! :eek:)

No. As a 12 year old guy (last year) I knew a 12 year old girl with pretty nice looking breasts (relatively speaking).

Was it a perm?:)

No.


I got an afro... :p



(Not really ;) )

No.


I got an afro... :p



(Not really ;) )

Why not? They're so useful. :D

I'll just give a standard "people are idiots" response.

Why not? They're so useful. :D

Made it so I couldn't walk through doors... :(

Made it so I couldn't walk through doors... :(

Oh that's not a problem. A well treated-fro will only become slighty square-ish from going through doors.

11 and 12 year old girls are indeed interested in being sexy for boys. When I worked at a summer camp, the girls were just normal little girls until they hit about 11 or 12, then suddenly they'd start showing up for kickball in scooched-up shorts and lipstick. For weeks before the camp sleepover they'd plot how to kiss (or whatever) one of the boys, while the boys were planning on how to practical-joke everyone. I know that a good portion of 11 and 12 year olds are already doing very sexually adult things with each other. So, yeah, that's what the magazines are either reflecting or inducing, or both. How about that.

11 and 12 year old girls are indeed interested in being sexy for boys. When I worked at a summer camp, the girls were just normal little girls until they hit about 11 or 12, then suddenly they'd start showing up for kickball in scooched-up shorts and lipstick. For weeks before the camp sleepover they'd plot how to kiss (or whatever) one of the boys, while the boys were planning on how to practical-joke everyone. I know that a good portion of 11 and 12 year olds are already doing very sexually adult things with each other. So, yeah, that's what the magazines are either reflecting or inducing, or both. How about that.
I'm not comfortable with it. The kissing part seems to be OK, but the being sexy? Not so much.

Attracting boys, however, could be OK... Hope the difference between the two is apparent :)

11/12 is when the horomones start acting up, some of them would be dressing/acting "sexy" anyway, it's just how they go, and this was there before the magazines. Media doesn't start these types of trends they just reflect them and cash in.

I'm not comfortable with it. The kissing part seems to be OK, but the being sexy? Not so much.

Attracting boys, however, could be OK... Hope the difference between the two is apparent :)

Yeah, it is not good for these little girls to be giving blow jobs and such, I can't imagine that's healthy for one's growing mind.

11 and 12 year old girls are indeed interested in being sexy for boys. When I worked at a summer camp, the girls were just normal little girls until they hit about 11 or 12, then suddenly they'd start showing up for kickball in scooched-up shorts and lipstick. For weeks before the camp sleepover they'd plot how to kiss (or whatever) one of the boys, while the boys were planning on how to practical-joke everyone. I know that a good portion of 11 and 12 year olds are already doing very sexually adult things with each other. So, yeah, that's what the magazines are either reflecting or inducing, or both. How about that.

Ah the innocent days of youth.

Ah the innocent days of youth.

Psh. Our age cutoff for camp was 12, but I think it should have been 12 for boys and 11 for girls.

I am way too drunk to understand this....

Yeah, it is not good for these little girls to be giving blow jobs and such, I can't imagine that's healthy for one's growing mind.
0.o

My lord I had an innocent childhood!

I don't believe so either. I think it's too early to stop being children...

Yeah, it is not good for these little girls to be giving blow jobs and such, I can't imagine that's healthy for one's growing mind.

How is it unhealthy for a child to be sexually aware?

How is it unhealthy for a child to be sexually aware?

It's not about awareness, it's about respect for one's own body.

It's not about awareness, it's about respect for one's own body.

Morally, or health wise?

Morally, or health wise?

Not morally. Hell, in many religions girls are married off pretty early. I think it is more about physical and emotional health. Girls who learn to use their body sexually so early tend to rely on it for the rest of their lives in place of real intimacy, and they don't care as much who they give it up to, or how many people they give it up to.

I wasn't blogging... :confused: why does everyone like to assume that every thread I make is a blog thread? :mad:

Because you haven't yet put enough distance between yourself and the readers of the magazines you deride? Just a guess.

Yes, but nobody's gotten it constantly in every single thread they make.

How in the hell is it bloggish? Okay... maybe the first part is... I've seen worse that have been left alone though. So why do I get that in every single thread? Even when I had a legitimate medical concern (over unwanted weight loss) people were screaming at me to get a blog.

See, now that you're going on and on about being considered "bloggish", guess what?

I can agree with the "mother" thing, all the kids I know that are trying to be "sexy" have mom's who are irresponsible and weak. I literally know a 3 year old who wears make up and halter tops......it so grosses me out and worries me, I mean where does she go from there?!

That's what I was trying to explain to my 5 year old, once you hit "grown up" there's not much more after that, so that's why she can't wear a bra, or get her ears pierced or dye her hair or wear make-up. She can do 5 year old things, like ride her bike without training wheels, and check the mail by herself, and wear backless shoes, and beaded bracelets.

Yeah...I just don't understand the logic of making your child look like ... (I don't like this word) a slut.

That's what I was trying to explain to my 5 year old, once you hit "grown up" there's not much more after that, so that's why she can't wear a bra, or get her ears pierced or dye her hair or wear make-up. She can do 5 year old things, like ride her bike without training wheels, and check the mail by herself, and wear backless shoes, and beaded bracelets.

That's about the exact same thing my mom said when I was 5.

And I'm really getting sick of all of this marketed at young girls... why do 10 year olds need to dress up and talk like they're 16? They're quite clearly not 16... why do 10 year olds need to be "sexy"? Guys don't even like that anyway...

My sister reads those. She's 12. ;)

Guys don't even like that anyway...

Depends on the guy.

edit: I'm editing this because some people are incapable of reading. I was talking about style.

Depends on the guy.

any guy who wants to get with a 10 year old is a sick freak.

any guy who wants to get with a 10 year old is a sick freak.

Unless of course he is also around ten. But I was actually talking about style, not age.

any guy who wants to get with a 10 year old is a sick freak.

what if they're 11? :p

Anyway... if you think a ten year old can be "sexy"... something is indeed wrong...

wheeeeeeeeeeeeee im so confused

Anyway... if you think a ten year old can be "sexy"... something is indeed wrong...

I WAS TALKING ABOUT STYLE!

You said guys don't find that style attractive, and I said it depends on the guy!

Jesus Christ, learn to read...

wheeeeeeeeeeeeee im so confused

look, it's simple. pie wins, there is no ambiguity.

look, it's simple. pie wins, there is no ambiguity.

QFT

wheeeeeeeeeeeeee im so confused

This thread doesn't seem very confusing...

This thread doesn't seem very confusing...

He can't figure out whether cake or pie is better, clearly his intelligence isn't that high :) (is joke)

Depends on the guy.

edit: I'm editing this because some people are incapable of reading. I was talking about style.

If you mean that some guys never grow up that is certainly true. They like younger girls because their immaturity is all they can handle.

If you mean that some guys never grow up that is certainly true. They like younger girls because their immaturity is all they can handle.

Can you read?

I mean, I'm sorry, but you even quoted the edited one that says "I was talking about style". Age has absolutely NOTHING to do with that post.

Can you read?

I mean, I'm sorry, but you even quoted the edited one that says "I was talking about style". Age has absolutely NOTHING to do with that post.

To me age and style often intermingle. It is the younger types after all who dress in that particular way and will have a certain personality as well.

To me age and style often intermingle. It is the younger types after all who dress in that particular way and will have a certain personality as well.

I've noticed there is no significant difference in many places from how close-to-teenagers (tweenagers?) and much older, college-aged people dress.