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Chicago's gun laws rock.

Drunk commies deleted
16-05-2007, 15:34
They're issuing firearms ID cards to infants.

http://www.wftv.com/family/13329394/detail.html

Who's more helpless than a baby? Giving babies guns sounds like a step toward preventing child abuse.
Telesha
16-05-2007, 15:39
They're issuing firearms ID cards to infants.

http://www.wftv.com/family/13329394/detail.html

Who's more helpless than a baby? Giving babies guns sounds like a step toward preventing child abuse.

:headbang:

^why am I doing this you ask? Because it's less painful than coming to the realization that I share a city with these people...
Jesusslavesyou
16-05-2007, 15:40
They're issuing firearms ID cards to infants.

http://www.wftv.com/family/13329394/detail.html

Who's more helpless than a baby? Giving babies guns sounds like a step toward preventing child abuse.

yeah, and education too...

*ducks as toddler shoots him for telling him off*
Ifreann
16-05-2007, 15:40
I for one welcome our new 10 month old overlords.
Newer Burmecia
16-05-2007, 15:41
They're issuing firearms ID cards to infants.

http://www.wftv.com/family/13329394/detail.html

Who's more helpless than a baby? Giving babies guns sounds like a step toward preventing child abuse.
Surely their toy rabbits will need guns for self-defense?
Wallonochia
16-05-2007, 15:42
Chicago: Where the dead vote and infants are armed.
Sane Outcasts
16-05-2007, 15:42
They're issuing firearms ID cards to infants.

http://www.wftv.com/family/13329394/detail.html

Who's more helpless than a baby? Giving babies guns sounds like a step toward preventing child abuse.

What's so bad about that? He needed that card for his shotgun:

Ludwig, 30, applied for the card after his own father bought Bubba a 12-gauge Beretta shotgun as a gift. The weapon will probably be kept at Ludwig's father's house until the boy is at least 14.

Not that I would give a baby a shotgun for a present (or call him Bubba), but at least he'll get some use out of it in a decade and a half, give or take.
Telesha
16-05-2007, 15:45
I'm seeing an episode of Cops in that kid's future...
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 15:49
I love this line:

Ludwig, 30, applied for the card after his own father bought Bubba a 12-gauge Beretta shotgun as a gift. The weapon will probably be kept at Ludwig's father's house until the boy is at least 14.

I had no idea the rednecks had made it to Chicago. Sigh :(
The_pantless_hero
16-05-2007, 15:49
I love this line:



I had no idea the rednecks had made it to Chicago. Sigh :(

German rednecks no less.
Telesha
16-05-2007, 15:53
I had no idea the rednecks had made it to Chicago. Sigh :(

We migrate for the summer.
Kryozerkia
16-05-2007, 16:00
Why??
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 16:01
We migrate for the summer.

lol! Did you bring your wife/sister with you? :p
Telesha
16-05-2007, 16:05
lol! Did you bring your wife/sister with you? :p

Nope, married into the local population :p

We don' marry our cousins/sisters/whatever...we've gotten smarter. Now we interbreed with local populations, much more insidious way of taking over the gene pool.

As evidenced by the OP, Chicago is already firmly in our hands.:D
Siempreciego
16-05-2007, 16:10
They're issuing firearms ID cards to infants.

http://www.wftv.com/family/13329394/detail.html

Who's more helpless than a baby? Giving babies guns sounds like a step toward preventing child abuse.

:confused:

One positive, i don't see the kid getting bullied much as school. I just hope there isn't one of those laws about allowed to carry guns in public.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 16:10
As evidenced by the OP, Chicago is already firmly in our hands.:D

Maybe I'll move to Kentucky then. :D
Lunatic Goofballs
16-05-2007, 16:11
Does anybody else think it would be a phenomenally bad idea to arm my kids? :p
Ifreann
16-05-2007, 16:12
Maybe I'll move to Kentucky then. :D

There is no escape from the rednecks.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 16:13
There is no escape from the rednecks.

Don't say that! I don't want to believe it! I won't I won't! Some rednecks are hot though. Jessica Simpson anyone?
Hamilay
16-05-2007, 16:14
Does anybody else think it would be a phenomenally bad idea to arm my kids? :p
Don't you have guns around your house, though? :eek:

I'm sure no lock or alarm is obstacle to Goofball Jnr, after all.
Telesha
16-05-2007, 16:14
There is no escape from the rednecks.

It's best if you just accept it: buy a flannel shirt, get a Jeff Foxworthy CD, have a beer, and await the next migration.

I love the fact that this guy "didn't actually think the license would be approved."

Um...perhaps if you're filling out an application for a gun license for an infant you have bigger concerns?
Telesha
16-05-2007, 16:15
Don't say that! I don't want to believe it! I won't I won't! Some rednecks are hot though. Jessica Simpson anyone?

We kicked her out. She meets the intelligence requirement, but her music sucks in all the wrong ways.
Easy Prom Dates
16-05-2007, 16:16
The tag line is from Chicago. The ID issued is an Illinois one. Having the card does not intitle you to be able to purchase a gun till your 18yrs old. (14yr old Bubba will have to be under the supervision of an equily gun card carrying adult in order to even hold that shotgun.)

Research... The City of Chicago has very tough gun laws. handguns can not be bought or sold in all of Cook county. Rifles with an magazine of over five rounds are illegal.(within the city limits. some areas of Cook county allow ownership and buying and selling of large capasity magazined rifles.) Owning a shotgun in Chicago or Cook county is about the only way too utilize your right too arms. And that is under controls as well.

Hizhoner, da mayor. Is a member of an organization trying too get gun makers and sellers lible for crimes commited useing their products. (Can my wife sue General Motors if I get plowed down by a Chevy?)

Unfortunatly. all this has failed too stop the thugs from shooting folks. Guess the old saying of taking guns away from law abiding citizens leaves the guns in the criminals hands has some truth too it.

Thats why I moved outa the city and into a County that allows you to use your freedoms.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 16:16
We kicked her out. She meets the intelligence requirement, but her music sucks in all the wrong ways.

But she's so perdy, check it:

http://www.tshirtwatch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/jessica-simpson-peoria.jpg
Ifreann
16-05-2007, 16:16
Does anybody else think it would be a phenomenally bad idea to arm my kids? :p
I suspect your kids are already armed in an amusing and unconventional manner.
Don't say that! I don't want to believe it! I won't I won't! Some rednecks are hot though. Jessica Simpson anyone?

You must believe. You must also believe that sigs are limited to 8 lines[/backseatmod]
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 16:18
You must also believe that sigs are limited to 8 lines[/backseatmod]

Well, that would explain why mine doesn't work. Spanks. :cool:
Telesha
16-05-2007, 16:21
But she's so perdy, check it:

http://www.tshirtwatch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/jessica-simpson-peoria.jpg

No argument here. I didn't make the call, you'd have to take up appeals your readmission with the Council.

Times have changed. I know I didn't get a Beretta shotgun as an infant...I only got a low caliber rifle as a child.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 16:22
Times have changed. I know I didn't get a Beretta shotgun as an infant...I only got a low caliber rifle as a child.

I got a super soaker. What ever happened to just buying super soakers!!?? I mean pressurized water can still put your eye out. You don't need a shotgun for that.
Telesha
16-05-2007, 16:28
I got a super soaker. What ever happened to just buying super soakers!!?? I mean pressurized water can still put your eye out. You don't need a shotgun for that.

You can't kill critters with a super-soaker.

Besides, I don't think the super-soaker brand-name was around when I was that young. All we had were crappy $0.99 water pistols.
Sane Outcasts
16-05-2007, 16:29
I got a super soaker. What ever happened to just buying super soakers!!?? I mean pressurized water can still put your eye out. You don't need a shotgun for that.

When your kid's called Bubba, it's either shotgun or nothing.
Lunatic Goofballs
16-05-2007, 16:33
Don't you have guns around your house, though? :eek:

I'm sure no lock or alarm is obstacle to Goofball Jnr, after all.

Yes, my wife keeps a gun in a small gun safe. Gun in the house or not, I've already learned not to give Little Goofball that kind of free mischief time. ;)
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 16:33
When your kid's called Bubba, it's either shotgun or nothing.

That makes baby jesus sad.
Forsakia
16-05-2007, 16:34
It's best if you just accept it: buy a flannel shirt, get a Jeff Foxworthy CD, have a beer, and await the next migration.

I love the fact that this guy "didn't actually think the license would be approved."

Um...perhaps if you're filling out an application for a gun license for an infant you have bigger concerns?

Probably did it as a joke, or on the off chance it would get approved and he'd get a story out of it.

I remember in the UK, someone managed to get a Gerbil an official CORGI (gas fitters regulatory association, basically if they belong to this they're supposed to be of a good standard) registration.
Allanea
16-05-2007, 16:34
Ludwig, 30, applied for the card after his own father bought Bubba a 12-gauge Beretta shotgun as a gift. The weapon will probably be kept at Ludwig's father's house until the boy is at least 14.


Am I really the only person in this forum that doesn't have a problem with this?
Sane Outcasts
16-05-2007, 16:35
That makes baby jesus sad.

I'm sure adult Jesus is cool with it.
Drunk commies deleted
16-05-2007, 16:37
Am I really the only person in this forum that doesn't have a problem with this?

I don't have a problem with it, but I think it's kind of funny that a ten month old has a firearms permit.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 16:41
Am I really the only person in this forum that doesn't have a problem with this?

What does a 14 year old need with a shotgun? If you say hunting I'm gonna smack you in the neck!
Central Ecotopia
16-05-2007, 16:42
I love the fact that this guy "didn't actually think the license would be approved."

Um...perhaps if you're filling out an application for a gun license for an infant you have bigger concerns?

Actually, in a perverse sort of way, that makes a lot of sense to me. He bought a gun that would eventually belong to his child, and he was attempting to make it completely by-the-books. The fact that he succeded in getting a license with the kid still being only an infant is what is strange. I know people who were bought a gun when they were born, so they'd have one to hunt with when they grew older. I got one at age 8. I don't ever use it, but it's still locked up in case I ever would.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 16:45
I'm sure adult Jesus is cool with it.

That makes teenage jesus sad.
Central Ecotopia
16-05-2007, 16:47
It's best if you just accept it: buy a flannel shirt, get a Jeff Foxworthy CD, have a beer, and await the next migration.

I love the fact that this guy "didn't actually think the license would be approved."

Um...perhaps if you're filling out an application for a gun license for an infant you have bigger concerns?

Am I really the only person in this forum that doesn't have a problem with this?

I may have to turn in my Democratic Party credentials for this, but no, you are not the only one who doesn't have a problem with it. I think it's definitely a culture thing, though. If you don't grow up around hunters and guns, it's probably pretty unlikely you could understand.
Rambhutan
16-05-2007, 16:48
It is going to be much harder taking candy from babies if they are armed. Guess I will have to get a new hobby
Hydesland
16-05-2007, 16:48
:headbang:


Agreed:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Telesha
16-05-2007, 16:50
I may have to turn in my Democratic Party credentials for this, but no, you are not the only one who doesn't have a problem with it. I think it's definitely a culture thing, though. If you don't grow up around hunters and guns, it's probably pretty unlikely you could understand.

I never had an issue with it either, just the fact that our gun license program is so bloated that it issued a license to an infant makes my head hurt.

One more child growing up respecting firearms and what they can do is a good thing.
Sane Outcasts
16-05-2007, 16:52
That makes teenage jesus sad.
Everyone knows that Jesus was never a teenager. He went straight from 12 to 30, as it happened in the Bible.
I may have to turn in my Democratic Party credentials for this, but no, you are not the only one who doesn't have a problem with it. I think it's definitely a culture thing, though. If you don't grow up around hunters and guns, it's probably pretty unlikely you could understand.

I don't have a problem with it either, since I'm in the area of America where a ten month-old named Bubba getting a shotgun and permit is kind of normal. It's just funny as hell when it happens.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 17:03
Everyone knows that Jesus was never a teenager. He went straight from 12 to 30, as it happened in the Bible.

Many things happened in the bible, like that one part were two girls raped their father. Talk about kinky. ;)

I may have to turn in my Democratic Party credentials for this, but no, you are not the only one who doesn't have a problem with it. I think it's definitely a culture thing, though. If you don't grow up around hunters and guns, it's probably pretty unlikely you could understand.

Hunting deer or turkeys or duck hunting (that was a fun game) is one thing sure. But let's be real, you don't need a shotgun to hunt a deer. The only reason for a shotgun (and the majority of other guns) is to hunt people!
Telesha
16-05-2007, 17:08
Hunting deer or turkeys or duck hunting (that was a fun game) is one thing sure. But let's be real, you don't need a shotgun to hunt a deer. The only reason for a shotgun (and the majority of other guns) is to hunt people!

A shotgun is used for hunting fowl, particularly pheasant and quail.

M-16's are used to hunt people.
Araraukar
16-05-2007, 17:17
Chicago: Where the dead vote and infants are armed.

That sentence made my day! :D :D :D

And as a European, I can just shake my head and mutter something about "those crazy Americans". :P
Drunk commies deleted
16-05-2007, 17:19
Many things happened in the bible, like that one part were two girls raped their father. Talk about kinky. ;)



Hunting deer or turkeys or duck hunting (that was a fun game) is one thing sure. But let's be real, you don't need a shotgun to hunt a deer. The only reason for a shotgun (and the majority of other guns) is to hunt people!

Shotguns are probably the most common guns for hunting deer in New Jersey. Hunting with rifles, except for blackpowder rifles, is prohibited. Deer hunters in my state most commonly use shotguns or bows.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 17:19
A shotgun is used for hunting fowl, particularly pheasant and quail.

M-16's are used to hunt people.

lol if you really believe that you should be smacked in your red neck. :p Besides there are no pheasants and quail in Chicago. Or many other parts of the world (but there are shotguns).
Telesha
16-05-2007, 17:20
That sentence made my day! :D :D :D

And as a European, I can just shake my head and mutter something about "those crazy Americans". :P

Why mutter it? Most of us over here are saying it out loud. :p
Central Ecotopia
16-05-2007, 17:23
A shotgun is used for hunting fowl, particularly pheasant and quail.
and grouse, although my dad once killed one with a rock. Not very bright animals...

M-16's are used to hunt people.

True. To regain my Democratic Party credentials, I will say that I am vehemently opposed to assault weapons.
Telesha
16-05-2007, 17:24
lol if you really believe that you should be smacked in your red neck. :p Besides there are no pheasants and quail in Chicago. Or many other parts of the world (but there are shotguns).

No, but further south, around Springfield, Illinois, there are. And a shotgun was the weapon of choice to hunt them-see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun). It's a bitch to get all of the buckshot out of the meat sometimes, though.

Just because the shotgun can be used to hunt people doesn't mean that's what it was designed for. Otherwise I could extend the argument to say the bow and arrow was designed for the same thing.
Allanea
16-05-2007, 17:24
I never had an issue with it either, just the fact that our gun license program is so bloated that it issued a license to an infant makes my head hurt.


Well, okay. The fact your gun licensing program... *exists*... that is a problem.
Central Ecotopia
16-05-2007, 17:25
No, but further south, around Springfield, Illinois, there are. And a shotgun was the weapon of choice to hunt them. It's a bitch to get all of the buckshot out of the meat sometimes, though.

Just because the shotgun [I]can/I] be used to hunt people doesn't mean that's what it was designed for. Otherwise I could extend the argument to say the bow and arrow was designed for the same thing.

On NPR a while back, I heard that someone had invented buckshot that was actually spices, so all you had to do was pluck and cook the bird.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 17:26
Just because the shotgun can be used to hunt people doesn't mean that's what it was designed for. Otherwise I could extend the argument to say the bow and arrow was designed for the same thing.

That's such a cop-out answer. :p
Telesha
16-05-2007, 17:30
That's such a cop-out answer. :p

I fail to see how.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 17:30
I fail to see how.

Pencils are not designed to poke out your eye and yet they do. Should we ban pencils? No, of course not. Why? Because millions of ppl a year are not dieing due to having their eyes poked out with a pencil.
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 17:33
So we don't ban pencils because only a few people use them to kill? If more people used pencils to kill you'd be for banning them?

Now we're seeing eye to eye. :cool:
Telesha
16-05-2007, 17:34
Pencils are not designed to poke out your eye and yet they do. Should we ban pencils? No, of course not. Why? Because millions of ppl a year are not dieing due to having their eyes poked out with a pencil.

So we don't ban pencils because only a few people use them to kill? If more people used pencils to kill you'd be for banning them?
Telesha
16-05-2007, 17:37
Now we're seeing eye to eye. :cool:

Pun intended, I'm sure :p
Pwnageeeee
16-05-2007, 17:39
Pun intended, I'm sure :p

hehe
Telesha
16-05-2007, 17:48
On NPR a while back, I heard that someone had invented buckshot that was actually spices, so all you had to do was pluck and cook the bird.

I'd heard that too, but I never saw the shells. Wish they'd had it when we could still hunt pheasant. Nothing was worse than biting into a piece of birdshot.

'Course, my days of hunting are behind me.
The_pantless_hero
16-05-2007, 17:51
I'd heard that too, but I never saw the shells. Wish they'd had it when we could still hunt pheasant. Nothing was worse than biting into a piece of birdshot.

'Course, my days of hunting are behind me.
http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=220338
If for real, it's a brilliant idea I fail to see why hasn't come up sooner. Use capsules that would penetrate the flesh and dissolve in the body. Ingenious.
Telesha
16-05-2007, 17:57
That could be like one of the old Guiness commercials.

"Birdshot that seasons the bird? Brilliant!"
The Nazz
16-05-2007, 18:39
What does a 14 year old need with a shotgun? If you say hunting I'm gonna smack you in the neck!

Where I grew up, in semi-rural Louisiana, it was the rare 14 year old boy who didn't have his own shotgun, or access to one at the very least. The opening of deer hunting season was practically a school holiday.
Aardweasels
16-05-2007, 18:58
Am I really the only person in this forum that doesn't have a problem with this?

Nope. I don't have a problem with this.

It's not like they've handed this child the gun and invited him to have at it...the gun will be kept in a secure location until he's old enough to learn how to use it responsibly.

In the meantime, he's registered as the gun's owner...because he is the gun's owner. Ownership doesn't mean he gets to keep the gun in his crib or use it to hold up the local ice cream truck.
Telesha
16-05-2007, 19:18
Where I grew up, in semi-rural Louisiana, it was the rare 14 year old boy who didn't have his own shotgun, or access to one at the very least. The opening of deer hunting season was practically a school holiday.

Same here. Just about everybody owned a firearm and most either knew how to use it or were hunters.
Johnny B Goode
16-05-2007, 19:41
They're issuing firearms ID cards to infants.

http://www.wftv.com/family/13329394/detail.html

Who's more helpless than a baby? Giving babies guns sounds like a step toward preventing child abuse.

All your babies are belong to us.
Hynation
16-05-2007, 19:49
That makes baby jesus sad.

Well now baby Jesus can legally own a gun, that makes baby Jesus happy :)

now...Get down muthafuckas! Jesus gotta GAT!
IDF
16-05-2007, 20:05
The infant must have paid a great sum of money to the campaign fund of King Richard II, Hizzoner Da Mayor
Siempreciego
16-05-2007, 20:21
lol if you really believe that you should be smacked in your red neck. :p Besides there are no pheasants and quail in Chicago. Or many other parts of the world (but there are shotguns).

pigeon and rats then?
Telesha
16-05-2007, 20:25
pigeon and rats then?

That's what the handguns are for ;)
Drunk commies deleted
16-05-2007, 21:02
That's what the handguns are for ;)

No, shotguns are the appropriate weapon for shooting pigeons and other fowl.
Drunk commies deleted
16-05-2007, 21:05
True, but in an urban environment there are far too many other things you could hit when firing birdshot at pigeons, namely people.

No, better to use a handgun or something else that uses a slug.

You shoot them in the air. You're not supposed to blast them on the ground. If they're up in the air you'll be shooting over the heads of pedestrians.
Telesha
16-05-2007, 21:06
No, shotguns are the appropriate weapon for shooting pigeons and other fowl.

True, but in an urban environment there are far too many other things you could hit when firing birdshot at pigeons, namely people.

No, better to use a handgun or something else that uses a slug.
Telesha
16-05-2007, 21:09
You shoot them in the air. You're not supposed to blast them on the ground. If they're up in the air you'll be shooting over the heads of pedestrians.

Better safe than Dick Cheney'd