NationStates Jolt Archive

So rather then debate all these topics on different threads, I say we debate them all at once. Here is a list of topics to state your views on. Paste it to your post and put the following next to each topic: "A" for anti the idea, "P" for pro, and "N" for neutral/undecided:

Abortion:
America:
Bush:
Capitalism:
Capital-Punishment:
Communism:
Democracy:
Dictatorship:
Drugs:
Euthanasia:
Gay-Marrige:
God:
Guns:
Hollywood:
Ruffy:
Illegal Immigration:
The Miltary:
Nudism:
Political Correctness:
Socialism:
Suicide:
Taxes:
Terrorism:
Vegans:
Vegetarians:
Wellfare:

After checking-off all these, you can pick one or more to debate, or elaberate your opinion of.

Umm, no. We have a forum for threads. You don't get to pretend your thread is the forum.

Isn't this what the info thread/profiles are for? :confused:

To be fair, the NS player info thread has a lot of this information for each member that has submitted it.

Umm, no. We have a forum for threads. You don't get to pretend your thread is the forum.


Fassigen was actually a quite popular discussion topic himself, a while ago. :D

Abortion: Pro
America: Pro
Bush: Anti
Capitalism: Pro
Capital-Punishment: Anti
Communism: Anti
Democracy: Pro
Dictatorship: Anti
Drugs: Neutral
Euthanasia: Pro
Gay-Marrige: Pro
God: Anti
Guns: Anti
Hollywood: Neutral
Illegal Immigration: Neutral
The Miltary: Anti
Nudism: Pro (females), Anti (males)
Political Correctness: Anti
Socialism: Anti
Suicide: Neutral
Taxes: Neutral
Terrorism: Anti
Vegans: Neutral (save for the nutjobs)
Vegetarians: Neutral (save for the nutjobs)
Wellfare: Neutral

Abortion: Pro
America: Quite like Canada and various parts of the Carribean would like to visit South America
Bush: Prefer trees or flowers
Capitalism:
Capital-Punishment: A
Communism: N
Democracy: P (apart from Eurovision Song Contest)
Dictatorship: A
Drugs: Those free and prescribed by the state.
Euthanasia: Anti
Gay-Marrige: Pro
God: Would like there to be one (whose views I shared) but doubt it Am anti people telling me how to live my life according to their religious code.
Guns: Anti
Hollywood:
Ruffy:
Illegal Immigration: Should be legal immigration
The Miltary:
Nudism: Pro - but not for me
Political Correctness: In its correct sense getting people to think what they say absolutely Pro. As a fashion accessory no.
Socialism: Pro
Suicide:
Taxes: Pro (if I want democracy)
Terrorism: Anti whether by the state, groups or individuals
Vegans: will I supect like some dislike others
Vegetarians: will I supect like some dislike others
Wellfare: dont like ther term but beleive the community and society has responsibilities and an investment in ensuring free health and community services.
Palestine Pro (does not mean anti Israel)

Abortion: pro
America: maybe with a smaller army/ego
Bush: yeah, he's a great stand-up comedian
Capitalism: anti
Capital-Punishment: that's right, kill them all!
Communism: nope
Democracy: the worst political system ever, with the exception of all the others
Dictatorship: see above
Drugs: how would you operate a hospital without them?
Euthanasia: maybe
Gay-Marriage: hell, yeah, the rest of us can marry, why not them?
God: sure, in novels/movies/comics
Guns: or, how to kill your betters from a distance
Hollywood: great special effects
Ruffy: ???
Illegal Immigration: if it becomes accepted, doesn't it stop being illegal?
The Military: sure, they're handy in a natural disaster
Nudism: only for hot people
Political Correctness: that su... that's maybe not the best policy there is
Socialism: yep
Suicide: nope
Taxes: of course
Terrorism: yeah, absolutely, I'm all for mindless killing
Vegans: as long as they don't try to feed their baby soja milk and apple juice
Vegetarians: see above
Wellfare: no, let the poor be sick! :rolleyes:

*insert maniacal giggle here*

Abortion: P
America: A
Bush: A
Capitalism: P
Capital-Punishment: N
Communism: A
Democracy: N
Dictatorship: P
Drugs: P
Euthanasia: P
Gay-Marrige: P
God: A
Guns: P
Hollywood: A
Ruffy: N
Illegal Immigration: N
The Miltary: N
Nudism: P
Political Correctness: A
Socialism: N
Suicide: P
Taxes: N
Terrorism: A
Vegans: N
Vegetarians: N
Wellfare: P

perhapse we should debate the merrits of such an omnibus debate?

and it would seem that the 'sides', are between using your own eyes and mind as objecitively and honestly as you are capable of, or taking whatever appears to be ambient, as adamant and absolute given.

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you want my brief oppinions on the topics mentioned?

Abortion: a less the ideal method of birth control. a less then ideal way of preventing someone from being born who would otherwise likely live to regret having been. the best way to prevent the need for it would be for every person from the very first onset of sexual potential, to be given free and unlimited access to ALL anti-fertility measures.
America: a place where i happen to live. one that has the potential for being pretty darn good. a potential it has never in my lifetime entirely lived up to, but instead seems to keep drifting further and further from. a place that if it ever remembers how to do anything besides destroy, and stops demonizing everything that doesn't kiss the ass of little green pieces of paper, MIGHT, become something it is possible to take pride in. also a place unfortunately named after someone who never saw it, in complete ignorance and indifference to the people who were already living here, for in the neighborhood of ten THOUAND years, at the time.
Bush: the kind that one smokes is mostly harmless by comparison. the poster child of pseudo-conservatism is probably someone none of us would be any worse off had his mother had an abortion
Capitalism: not the best possibly way to run a country, nor, inhierently the worse. it has enabled the advancement of many tecnologies. unfortunately that is probably the best that can be said for it. like democracy, it guarantees nothing. unlike democracy, it generates more anxiety then it alieviates.
Capital-Punishment: a bad idea, owing to its erriversability and the fallability of human judgement
Communism: a catchall term, used by the mindless to demonize everything that doesn't kiss the ass of little green pieces of paper
Democracy: a means of doing something about the freedoms you don't have. otherwise guarantees nothing, but perhapse slightly less anxiety generating then the lack of it.
Dictatorship: something that can defacto exist under the pretentions of ANY idiology. by context and use, generaly synonimous with tyranny, though monarchy, even absolute monarchy, need not be.
Drugs: are you talking about medications or recreationaly consumed neurotropic substances?
nothing should ever be unlawful to possess, only the opperation of heavy machinery, such as automobiles, while under their influence.
Euthanasia: a slipery slope perhapse, but also, a potential mercy. should never be up to anyone other then the individual awairness, human or otherwise, to receive it.
Gay-Marrige: neither more nor less absurd then any other arbitrarily defined personal relationship
God: something the something in some way resembling may or may not exist and about which no one objectively knows anything but which in nontangable and nonintillectual ways it may be possible to befriend, love, be loved by, and interact with.
Guns: one of humanity's more wrong headed inventions
Hollywood: a place controlled by greed pretending to be art
Ruffy: a person i haven't personaly met
Illegal Immigration: legalize it! no nation has a moral right to close its borders. period.
The Miltary: how politicians of every stripe prevent people from realizing welfare and infrastructure are the only things any government is any good for.
Nudism: mostly harmless, if not always aestheticly optimal, no intrinsicly moral implications
Political Correctness: a euphamism invented to discredit real morality
Socialism: the only thing that can save capitolism
Suicide: generaly thoughtless but occasionaly honorable.
Taxes: the price of having a government and whatever bennifits might accrue therefrom.
Terrorism: an alternative excuse for pseudo-conservatism, now that the russians are comming the russians are comming will no longer wash
Vegans: to each their own
Vegetarians: to each their own
Wellfare: that and infrastructure are the only reason to have a 'state'

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I'll fill it out, but without the A, P, N shit.

Abortion: Pro-choice
America: I don't think in those terms.
Bush: Criminal and mass murderer.
Capitalism: Incompatible with a just and free society.
Capital-Punishment: Against.
Communism: An objective towards which to orient ourselves.
Democracy: I think it would be a good idea.
Dictatorship: Incompatible with a just and free society.
Drugs: The softer ones should be legalized. The rest should be treated as health issues.
Euthanasia: Death is a human right.
Gay-Marrige: I'm not very supportive of marriage as an institution, but the full civil benefits of marriage should be open to same-sex couples.
God: No gods, no masters.
Guns: I believe in an armed populace.
Hollywood: Neutral.
Ruffy: ?
Illegal Immigration: I strongly support free movement across artificial statist lines.
The Miltary: I believe in decentralized grassroots militias, not hierarchically-organized armies of professional killers obedient to the state and its interests.
Nudism: Bring it on.
Political Correctness: An excellent development that should be encouraged.
Socialism: The way forward. Part of it, anyway.
Suicide: Morally non-objectionable. But not something that should be done without first exhausting the alternatives.
Taxes: In the context of a capitalist economy, they are a necessity.
Terrorism: Unjustifiable in most circumstances.
Vegans: I could never do it, but more power to them.
Vegetarians: I am one... well, pescetarian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism) really, because I'm morally imperfect.
Wellfare: Smash class society.

Abortion: P
America: N
Bush: A
Capitalism: A
Capital-Punishment: A
Communism: P
Democracy: P
Dictatorship: A
Drugs: P
Euthanasia: P
Gay-Marrige: P
God: N
Guns: N
Hollywood: N
Ruffy: :fluffle:
Illegal Immigration: A
The Miltary: N
Nudism: P
Political Correctness: A
Socialism: P
Suicide: P
Taxes: P
Terrorism: A
Vegans: A
Vegetarians: N
Wellfare: P

This thread: A.

[QUOTE]or elaberate your opinion of.

I'd like to "elaberate" my opinion about "wellfare", but I think I'll read a dictionary instead.

*boycotts thread*

I don't want to end all the other threads.

lmfao, I don't see anyone debating anything:rolleyes:

A couple additions...

Catgirls: Pro
Foxgirls: Pro
Chuck Norris fanboys: Amateur, at best

*boycotts thread*

I don't want to end all the other threads.

Hey that's a good point
*starts making picket signs*

Hey that's a good point
*starts making picket signs*

I wonder if we can get the ACLU on our side. Does the constitution say anything about not ending the people's discussion forum?

Abortion: N (mostly pro, but against when it is used as a contraceptive)
America: N (some good things, some bad)
Bush: N (some good things, some bad)
Capitalism: N (somegood things, somebad)
Capital-Punishment: P
Communism: A
Democracy: N (some good things, some bad)
Dictatorship: N (some good things, some bad)
Drugs: N (pro legal drugs, against illegal drugs)
Euthanasia: N (depends on situation)
Gay-Marrige: A
God: N (don't believe in God, but believe in Christian ideals)
Guns: P
Hollywood: N (some good things, some bad)
Ruffy: ?
Illegal Immigration: A (legal immigration is fine)
The Military: P
Nudism: A (i take it this means public nudity)
Political Correctness: A
Socialism: N (some good things, some bad)
Suicide: A (but depends on situation)
Taxes: P
Terrorism: A
Vegans: A
Vegetarians: A
Wellfare: N (some good things, some bad)

Abortion: P
America: A
Bush: A
Capitalism: N
Capital-Punishment: A
Communism: N
Democracy: A
Dictatorship: A
Drugs: P
Euthanasia: P
Gay-Marrige: P
God: A
Guns: P
Hollywood: P
Ruffy: A
Illegal Immigration: P
The Miltary: A
Nudism: P
Political Correctness: N
Socialism: N
Suicide: P
Taxes: A
Terrorism: N
Vegans: N
Vegetarians: N
Wellfare: A

I would just like to point out that my "N" next to terrorism is only those violent acts against government that get shuffled under the "terrorism" title.

I despise those fundamentalists, but it may be wise for us to pay attention to what works for them.

Abortion: Pro
America: Mu
Bush: Anti
Capitalism: Anti
Capital-Punishment: Anti
Communism: Pro
Democracy: Pro
Dictatorship: Anti, unless I'm in charge
Drugs: Pro
Euthanasia: Pro
Gay-Marriage: Pro
God: Mu, one can't be anti something that is clearly non-existent
Guns: Pro
Hollywood: Mu
Ruffy: Pro
Illegal Immigration: Mu
The Military: Anti
Nudism: Mu, dress however you like
Political Correctness: Anti
Socialism: Pro
Suicide: Pro
Taxes: Mu
Terrorism: Anti, including state terrorism
Vegans: Mu, eat as you like, just don't bug me
Vegetarians: ^
Welfare: Anti in theory, pro in practice, welfare is essentially a bribe, but ultimately people shouldn't be allowed to starve
Spell Check: Pro, learn to use it

Abortion: pro-choice
America: i don't like their government and most values associated with it
Bush: see above
Capitalism: anti
Capital-Punishment: anti
Communism: pro democratic or libertarian forms, anti authoritarian forms
Democracy: pro
Dictatorship: anti
Drugs: i like alcohol, but everybody decides what they do with their body as long as it doesn't affect other people
Euthanasia: if you want to (good regulated though, to preven murder etc)
Gay-Marrige: why not
God: people believe what they want as long as they leave me alone with it
Guns: not entirely prohibited, but very very strongly controled
Hollywood: from time to time they make an enjoyable movie, i don't really care
Ruffy: N
Illegal Immigration: it's logical that people search better places to live, so as long as we don't really do anything about their lifes in the country they were born I can't see why not.
The Miltary: as long as they aren't involved in a war they're ok, should focus more on humanitarian tasks
Nudism: pro
Political Correctness: it's best to not be to political correct, but also not to be to political incorrect, so i guess i'm neutral then...
Socialism: sure
Suicide: anti I guess, but i don't really see what you can do about it.
Taxes: necessary
Terrorism: pro :rolleyes:
Vegans: pro (as long as they don't kill their babies and aren't to fanatical about it)
Vegetarians: i am one
Wellfare: pros

*boycotts thread*

I don't want to end all the other threads.

Don't worry. It will fail. The relevence will drop, as stated by the laws of physics.

Abortion: P
America: N
Bush: A
Capitalism: P
Capital-Punishment: A
Communism: A
Democracy: P
Dictatorship: A
Drugs: P
Euthanasia: P
Gay-Marrige: P
God: A
Guns: N
Hollywood: N
Ruffy: P
Illegal Immigration: P
The Miltary: A
Nudism: P
Political Correctness: N
Socialism: A
Suicide: N
Taxes: A
Terrorism: A
Vegans: A
Vegetarians: A
Wellfare: A

After checking-off all these, you can pick one or more to debate, or elaberate your opinion of: A

Abortion: P
America: N
Bush: A
Capitalism: P
Capital-Punishment: P
Communism: N
Democracy: P
Dictatorship: A
Drugs: N
Euthanasia: P
Gay-Marrige: P
God: A
Guns: N
Hollywood: N
Ruffy: N
Illegal Immigration: P
The Miltary: P
Nudism: N
Political Correctness: A
Socialism: N
Suicide: N
Taxes: P
Terrorism: A... who do you actually expect to say 'yes, I love terrorism!'?
Vegans: A
Vegetarians: N
Wellfare: P

Don't worry. It will fail. The relevence will drop, as stated by the laws of physics.

I wasn't aware the laws of physics had anything to do with teh interwebs. Strange indeed.

Give me a taco or I'll hijack this thread!

Abortion: For
America: North American or South American continent?
Bush: Trees look better.
Capital-Punishment: Against
Communism: Against
Democracy: For, obviously
Dictatorship: Against
Drugs: Which ones?
Eurovision Song Contest: Against
Gay-Marrige: Why not?
God: Flying Spaghetti Monster
Guns: Against
Hollywood: Not a very nice place to visit.
Ruffy: If I say "damn you ruffy" all the time, what do you think?
Illegal Immigration: We don't get much here on NSG.
The Miltary: Don't wan't aything to do with it.
Nudism: For
Political Correctness: Fucking No.
Suicide: Meh.
Taxes: Against. They help govt's get too large
Terrorism: Against. It's the most annoying type of marketing there is.
Vegans: Eat whatever the hell you want, Just don't be Multiland.
Vegetarians: See above. Why do you have me answer the same question twice!?!
Wellfare: Meh. It's not that much of a typo.

I wasn't aware the laws of physics had anything to do with teh interwebs. Strange indeed.

Yes, byt physics on the internet are very different from the ones irl.

Give me a taco or I'll hijack this thread!

Explain to me how one can give a taco over the internet.

Also,
Tacos: Against.

Yes, byt physics on the internet are very different from the ones irl.

Threads in motion tend to stay in motion. *nod*

Explain to me how one can give a taco over the internet.

Matter transmission. Duh. :rolleyes:

Also,
Tacos: Against.

:eek: BLASPHEMY!

I think I'm neutral.

But I'm not 100%

Matter transmission. Duh. :rolleyes:

But it hasn't been invented yet!

:eek: BLASPHEMY!

Okay, I Blasphised. So?

But it hasn't been invented yet!

What are you talking about? I transmit and receive matter over the internet all the time with my matter transceiver. It's firewire! :D

Where I answer "Please define" it's because I simply do not understand the proposition.

Abortion: P
America: N
Bush: Please define
Capitalism: N
Capital-Punishment: A
Communism: A
Democracy: P
Dictatorship: A
Drugs: N
Euthanasia: P
Gay-Marrige: P
God: Please define
Guns: A
Hollywood: N
Ruffy: Please define
Illegal Immigration: Please define
The Miltary: N
Nudism: N
Political Correctness: Please define
Socialism: P
Suicide: N
Taxes: P
Terrorism: A
Vegans: P
Vegetarians: P
Wellfare: P

What are you talking about? I transmit and receive matter over the internet all the time with my matter transceiver. It's firewire! :D

fine. Transmit something to my computer. It's in Warsaw, Poland.

I'll give you two tacos if you do hijack the thread.

Indeed.


We must exert a force in the direction of the spam forum on this thread.
*pushes*

Well if this thread is a compilation of all others, then it must have sufficient spam for all of them *nod*

Give me a taco or I'll hijack this thread!
I'll give you two tacos if you do hijack the thread.
Yes, byt physics on the internet are very different from the ones irl.
Indeed.
Threads in motion tend to stay in motion. *nod*

We must exert a force in the direction of the spam forum on this thread.
*pushes*

fine. Transmit something to my computer. It's in Warsaw, Poland.

Do you have a transceiver?

Well if this thread is a compilation of all others, then it must have sufficient spam for all of them *nod*

but it's not. There's nothing Eurovision-related.

Do you have a transceiver?

Where can I get one?

but it's not. There's nothing Eurovision-related.

There is now. :)

Abortion: Pro. every womand should decide for herself, it's her body!
America: Fun...love shopping there
Bush: Anti, should get kicked in the head for the Iraq war
Capitalism:Neutral
Capital-Punishment:Neutral
Communism:Neutral, has some good points...but also has flaws
Democracy:See communism
Dictatorship:See communism
Drugs:Neutral, depends on the situation...but you can get them legally in my country.
Euthanasia:Pro
Gay-Marrige:Pro
God:Pro...ish....whatever
Guns:Anti
Hollywood:Neutral....heck it's fun...but so bad for the world:D
Ruffy:neutral
Illegal Immigration:Anti....ban that
The Miltary:pro
Nudism:neutral
Political Correctness:anti
Socialism:see communism
Suicide:Depends...
Taxes:Pro...ish
Terrorism:Anti
Vegans:Pro
Vegetarians:Pro
Wellfare:Pro...ish

There is now. :)

how? I haven't seen a rant about political voting yet.

Where can I get one?

They have a kit to build your own advertized in the back of 'Popular Mechanics' magazine near the ad to buy blueprints for a working lightsaber. *nod*

Which reminds me: I need a new couch. :(

how? I haven't seen a rant about political voting yet.

We are in the process of creating it as we speak. :)

YAY Interactivity! :D

We are in the process of creating it as we speak

So you're drafing one now?

They have a kit to build your own advertized in the back of 'Popular Mechanics' magazine near the ad to buy blueprints for a working lightsaber. *nod*

Which reminds me: I need a new couch. :(

Inside the lightsaber (http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/lightsaber.htm).

how? I haven't seen a rant about political voting yet.

Ah, but asking whether there's anything eurovision related is eurovision related.


Also, there is no spoon.