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That's right:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=3171298&page=1

Newt's inching closer to a presidential run! Just thought I'd post a quick poll to see who's hip to the Newt. Better get on that bandwagon now, or it'll leave you in the dust! :)

http://www.lionking.org/imgarchive/Act_2/Eww.jpg

Wow. And I thought I was delusional! :p

http://www.lionking.org/imgarchive/Act_2/Eww.jpg

Haha. I saw that movie at a drive-in theater long ago. ;)

Anyway, back to Newt. His bio screams success! Remember his work in Congress, after all.

Vote Ron Paul or accept perpetual servitude.
He's for :sniper: rights, your right to :upyours: even when whiners go :eek: , and he wants to keep the state out of your choice of whom you :fluffle:

He has come to the same conclusion virtually every other Republican of any stature has come to looking at the current crop of candidates. These guys?

What he fails to realize is that adding himself to the equation changes nothing.

Anyway, back to Newt. His bio screams success! Remember his work in Congress, after all.
You mean how he shut down the government? Real successful.
Vote Ron Paul
No.

Heh. He's a respectable man, certainly, though I'd take Newt if I had to choose. :D Though, it's good to note: both Ron Paul and Newt have been elected Ten Times(!) to their respective offices. That's quite a feat! Commands respect, too.
Not with today's incumbency rating it doesn't.

Vote Ron Paul or accept perpetual servitude.
He's for :sniper: rights, your right to :upyours: even when whiners go :eek: , and he wants to keep the state out of your choice of whom you :fluffle:

Heh. He's a respectable man, certainly, though I'd take Newt if I had to choose. :D Though, it's good to note: both Ron Paul and Newt have been elected Ten Times(!) to their respective offices. That's quite a feat! Commands respect, too.

Haha. I saw that movie at a drive-in theater long ago. ;)

Anyway, back to Newt. His bio screams success! Remember his work in Congress, after all.

You mean when he was cheating on one wife and refusing to pay child support to the children of the wife he dumped when she was dying of cancer? Yep. I remember. :)

An item of Newt trivia, if I may:

Did you know, that Newt holds a PhD in History, and once taught that very subject professionally? It's true. He's also keen on Historical Fiction. I can't say I don't share that interest! :D

So far, I like Ron Paul the most.

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.


He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.


He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

However, the media seems to be burying him, trying to keep him hidden.

You mean when he was cheating on one wife and refusing to pay child support to the children of the wife he dumped when she was dying of cancer? Yep. I remember. :)

Or how he was having an affair and using the "sucking ain't fucking" excuse during the Clinton impeachment? I remember that too.

An item of Newt trivia, if I may:

Did you know, that Newt holds a PhD in History, and once taught that very subject professionally? It's true. He's also keen on Historical Fiction. I can't say I don't share that interest! :D

Maybe that's what his presidency should be; Historical Fiction! :D

I know this is satire. At least I hope and pray it is.

You mean when he was cheating on one wife and refusing to pay child support to the children of the wife he dumped when she was dying of cancer? Yep. I remember. :)

Ah, accusations of a generation ago. ;) It's worth mentioning that Newt's kids are his biggest supporters, and that those charges were made by a bitter ex-employee.

Maybe that's what his presidency should be; Historical Fiction! :D

We'll see! That's what makes election season fun! :)

We can make Connie Chung his press secretary!

Or how he was having an affair and using the "sucking ain't fucking" excuse during the Clinton impeachment? I remember that too.

Another possibly invented issue of thirty years ago, which Newt himself knows is gutter politics, surely, by his rightly ignoring it.

It's good to remember, for the newcomers to politics here, that Newt presided over the first GOP-lead House. Quite a feat! But again, one that made him a magnet for slander and undue criticism.

That's right:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=3171298&page=1

Newt's inching closer to a presidential run! Just thought I'd post a quick poll to see who's hip to the Newt. Better get on that bandwagon now, or it'll leave you in the dust! :)

Yeah, speaking of fevers, does one show up from contraction of The Clap?
You know, the one he might've picked up during his philandering and bafflingly hypocritical period of influence with his Contract On America?
The one where he was ... you know ... persecuting Slick Willy over something that was no one's business? While he was doing the exact SAME no-one-else's-business?
That one?

OR the one with the bipartisan medical legislation effort with SAME SAID Clinton's wife (and future president prospect)?

EDIT - seems this is more review and emphasis than new. *shrug*
Thanks again Nazz

I remember Ron Paul from his Libertarian days. He almost seems ethical. Maybe that's why the media hates him; He's a republcan Ralph Nader. :D

I wouldn't mind having Ron Paul as President, he would pwn! :D

So far, I like Ron Paul the most.

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.


He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.


He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

However, the media seems to be burying him, trying to keep him hidden.

I remember Ron Paul from his Libertarian days. He almost seems ethical. Maybe that's why the media hates him; He's a republcan Ralph Nader. :D

Yeah, speaking of fevers, does one show up from contraction of The Clap?
You know, the one he might've picked up during his philandering and bafflingly hypocritical period of influence with his Contract On America?
The one where he was ... you know ... persecuting Slick Willy over something that was no one's business? While he was doing the exact SAME no-one-else's-business?
That one?

OR the one with the bipartisan medical legislation effort with SAME SAID Clinton's wife (and future president prospect)?

Sh*t, i was distracted by House, M.D. ... i kinda forgot.
Fuck the republicans. Let 'em simmer in their home-brew bilge.

Yeah, speaking of fevers, does one show up from contraction of The Clap?
You know, the one he might've picked up during his philandering and bafflingly hypocritical period of influence with his Contract On America?
The one where he was ... you know ... persecuting Slick Willy over something that was no one's business? While he was doing the exact SAME no-one-else's-business?
That one?


"Doing the same," you mean lying under oath? I don't seem to remember Newt doing that! :D

So far, I like Ron Paul the most.

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.


He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.


He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

However, the media seems to be burying him, trying to keep him hidden.

That sounds kinda like what's happening to Bill Richardson (iirhnc)
I like your post about him, though. :)

Another possibly invented issue of thirty years ago, which Newt himself knows is gutter politics, surely, by his rightly ignoring it.

It's good to remember, for the newcomers to politics here, that Newt presided over the first GOP-lead House. Quite a feat! But again, one that made him a magnet for slander and undue criticism.

Umm, no. Newt confessed (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/09/gingrich.schneider/index.html). If you pull your head out of your ass, you can see things much clearer.

"Doing the same," you mean lying under oath? I don't seem to remember Newt doing that! :D

Lying under oath - hmmm, sounds somewhat like what Condi Rice did when asked about how many warnings were issued for the 9-11 attacks.
52.
Not just "one".
I don't expect you remembering a lot of anything that would make this thread seem balanced, but then again, you could be a troll.
It wasn't anyone's fucking business really, CERTAINLY not at the cost to taxpayers, whether he was diddling someone else.
You really, really don't want to go down the "lying under oath" thing with the republicans.
Save yourself some embarassment.

Umm, no. Newt confessed (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/09/gingrich.schneider/index.html). If you pull your head out of your ass, you can see things much clearer.

Again, thanks be to Nazz.
Always on top of it.
:)

Again, thanks be to Nazz.
Always on top of it.
:)

*snickers* Too easy.... No offense to you Nazz.

Ah, before I forget: It's good to remember that Newt is quite concerned about climate change, also known as 'global warming.' Newt is currently in the process of writing a book on that topic, tentatively titled "A Contract with the Earth." Interesting stuff! I know that many here are also concerned with the global climate, and may be heartened to know that there is now a conscientious candidate in the race!

In fact, this link may be useful for that reason (among others):

http://www.draftnewt.org/ :)

Ah, before I forget: It's good to remember that Newt is quite concerned about climate change, also known as 'global warming.' Newt is currently in the process of writing a book on that topic, tentatively titled "A Contract with the Earth." Interesting stuff! I know that many here are also concerned with the global climate, and may be heartened to know that there is now a conscientious candidate in the race!

In fact, this link may be useful for that reason (among others):

http://www.draftnewt.org/ :)Granted, that's a better angle for your guy. :)

Umm, no. Newt confessed (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/09/gingrich.schneider/index.html). If you pull your head out of your ass, you can see things much clearer.

*Sigh* I hoped this wouldn't get ugly, but that wasn't to be, apparently. Yet, the article itself says quite clearly:

Gingrich said that didn't make him a hypocrite, because Clinton was impeached not for the affair, but for lying about it.

Perjury is quite another species of offense. More than a simple legal distinction, if you ask me! ;)

However, if you'd read a bit more carefully, you'd see that the excerpt you quoted from me uses the phrase "thirty years ago." Clearly, I was referring to an entirely different set of accusations, which were false, as opposed to the instance at issue here.

*snickers* Too easy.... No offense to you Nazz.

He can take it.
He certainly can dish it!

Granted, that's a better angle for your guy. :)

It does focus on the positive, surely. ;)

*Sigh* I hoped this wouldn't get ugly, but that wasn't to be, apparently. Yet, the article itself says quite clearly:



Perjury is quite another species of offense. More than a simple legal distinction, if you ask me! ;)

However, if you'd read a bit more carefully, you'd see that the excerpt you quoted from me uses the phrase "thirty years ago." Clearly, I was referring to an entirely different set of accusations, which were false, as opposed to the instance at issue here.
Let's backtrack a bit shall we? Here's what I said, and your response:

Or how he was having an affair and using the "sucking ain't fucking" excuse during the Clinton impeachment? I remember that too.

Another possibly invented issue of thirty years ago, which Newt himself knows is gutter politics, surely, by his rightly ignoring it.

It's good to remember, for the newcomers to politics here, that Newt presided over the first GOP-lead House. Quite a feat! But again, one that made him a magnet for slander and undue criticism.
It's quite clear from that exchange that 1) I wasn't referring to something from 30 years ago, as I noted it took place during the Clinton impeachment and 2) that you weren't paying attention when you replied to it, or you would have noticed that I set it in time. Further, it showed that you didn't know what the hell you were talking about, because Newt didn't preside over the first GOP led House. He presided over the first one in many years--over 40--but Republicans had controlled the House in previous eras.

Finally, I don't know what you hoped to prove with that Gingrich quote. Gingrich saying he's not a hypocrite doesn't automatically absolve him of hypocrisy--it just shows an ability for, at the very least, self-delusion, and a penchant for thinking his potential supporters are as dumb as a bag of hammers (no offense to hammer bags intended).

These are the moments that make my insides glow. :)

Newt Gingrich

Say it loud.

President Newt Gingrich.

There's simply no way he'll be voted in as president.

Newt Gingrich

Say it loud.

President Newt Gingrich.

There's simply no way he'll be voted in as president.

President Ron Paul has a nice ring to it though. :)

Let's backtrack a bit shall we? Here's what I said, and your response:
It's quite clear from that exchange that 1) I wasn't referring to something from 30 years ago, as I noted it took place during the Clinton impeachment and 2) that you weren't paying attention when you replied to it, or you would have noticed that I set it in time. Further, it showed that you didn't know what the hell you were talking about, because Newt didn't preside over the first GOP led House. He presided over the first one in many years--over 40--but Republicans had controlled the House in previous eras.

Finally, I don't know what you hoped to prove with that Gingrich quote. Gingrich saying he's not a hypocrite doesn't automatically absolve him of hypocrisy--it just shows an ability for, at the very least, self-delusion, and a penchant for thinking his potential supporters are as dumb as a bag of hammers (no offense to hammer bags intended).

Yes, of course Newt didn't preside over the first GOP-led house! :D That's an honest mistake, likely the result of acute Newt Fever. It's quite the affliction. ;)

As for the time frame of various accusations (there have been many, and unfair), note that I was skipping around quite a bit, from the seventies, where someone had accused Newt of infidelity during his first marriage, to later events, which unfortunately resembled events of that earlier time! It's unfortunate, but your remark about "sucking," etc. was similar to another accusation made thirty years ago, hence the confusion! So we were off the track from the word "go," sadly. Still, it's good to look to the future and reject the "gotcha" last-minute politics of the past. It's the future of the Country at stake, after all! :)

Newt Gingrich

Say it loud.

President Newt Gingrich.

There's simply no way he'll be voted in as president.

Sounds just fine to my ears! :D

Can't vote for him due to living in Germany.

Still, it's good to look to the future and reject the "gotcha" last-minute politics of the past. It's the future of the Country at stake, after all! :)
Except that Newt is the king of gotcha politics. If his political career is forever damaged as a result, it doesn't hurt my feelings one bit--what's good for the goose is good for the Newt.

Sounds just fine to my ears! :D

Then you don't have an appreciation for the subtle nuances of the English language.

The 'ute' couple with the 'Ging' is simply awful - the image it conjures is of a small, angry toad, which, coincidentally, he rather looks like.

He be better off with a name as ridiculous as Dildo Johnstone.

Vote Dildo Johnstone - Bringing the Good Vibrations back to America

Then you don't have an appreciation for the subtle nuances of the English language.

The 'ute' couple with the 'Ging' is simply awful - the image it conjures is of a small toad, which, coincidentally, he rather looks like.

He be better off with a name as ridiculous as Dildo Johnstone.

Vote Dildo Johnstone - Bringing the Good Vibrations back to America

LOL! Ohhh God, could you imagine the stuff they'd pass out? Blue, Red, and white vibrators!

Can't vote for him due to living in Germany.

Living there as a German or as an ex-pat? If it's the latter, you can certainly vote! Just request the proper forms. ;)

Living there as a German or as an ex-pat? If it's the latter, you can certainly vote! Just request the proper forms. ;)

Living there as a French. :)

Then you don't have an appreciation for the subtle nuances of the English language.

The 'ute' couple with the 'Ging' is simply awful - the image it conjures is of a small toad, which, coincidentally, he rather looks like.

He be better off with a name as ridiculous as Dildo Johnstone.

Vote Dildo Johnstone - Bringing the Good Vibrations back to America

I believe Newts are small lizards of some sort, rather than frogs. :)

However, President Gingrich lacks no euphony in my book. That's how he'd be referred to in most instances, rather than with the full title.

I believe Newts are small lizards of some sort, rather than frogs. :)

However, President Gingrich lacks no euphony in my book. That's how he'd be referred to in most instances, rather than with the full title.

Small lizard will do, though I know what a newt is - it's that the name sounds more toadish - I suspect it's linked in my mind to Nute Gunray, even that would be a better name.

Regardless, ne-ever going to happen

Living there as a French. :)

Aha. That might complicate things, then. :p

To be perfectly honest, I think I would rather gouge my eyes out with a salad fork than vote for Newt Gingrich. (Well, okay, maybe not really. I like having eyes, and votes don't count that much. But you get the idea.)

Small lizard will do, though I know what a newt is - it's that the name sounds more toadish - I suspect it's linked in my mind to Nute Gunray, even that would be a better name.

Regardless, ne-ever going to happen

Reminds me more of Knute, as in Knute Rockne the football legend, or Knut the sensational German polar bear! ;)

Aha. That might complicate things, then. :p

Don't listen to him! He actually lives in Pennsylvania.

Anyway, Newt Gingrich is a fool. I would not vote for him in the least.

Ron Paul though...if someone horrible were in the running for the Democratic candidate, I might vote for Ron Paul...might.

Reminds me more of Knute, as in Knute Rockne the football legend, or Knut the sensational German polar bear! ;)

The 'K' adds a Germanic masculinity, added to the Rock, well that simply heightens it - and Americans do love their Lone Ranger.

Newt Gingrich

Honestly, what were his parents thinking :rolleyes:

President Ron Paul has a nice ring to it though. :)

Ron Paul sounds like a porn actor.

As you can see, I always choose to vote on the sound of a name. Policies Schmolicies.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5600/newtbo8.png (http://imageshack.us)
She turned me into a Newt!

Someone had to say it.

The 'K' adds a Germanic masculinity, added to the Rock, well that simply heightens it - and Americans do love their Lone Ranger.

Newt Gingrich

Honestly, what were his parents thinking :rolleyes:

Yes, I know. I took German in school. Doesn't stop me from pronouncing it "Newt" in my mind when reading about Knut the bear. Maybe it should. :)

Also, another bit of Newt trivia: Newt is short for Newton, and his surname at birth was McPherson! It's quite possible that he would choose to be President Newton Gingrich, rather than keeping the nickname, though I doubt he'd choose to be so formal! :)

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5600/newtbo8.png (http://imageshack.us)
She turned me into a Newt!

Someone had to say it.

Great movie! :D

Don't listen to him! He actually lives in Pennsylvania.

Lies!

Wasn't Knut that awesome little polar bear cub from Germany?

Wasn't Knut that awesome little polar bear cub from Germany?

Hell yes.

Wasn't Knut that awesome little polar bear cub from Germany?

Totally. :)

Hell yes.
Totally. :)

Knut 2008 FTW!!11!!z :D

Knut 2008 FTW!!11!!z :D

I'd vote a Newt/Knut ticket! :D

I can't even say his name without imagining him screaming

"Riiiiipleeey...":D

http://www.loyalwise.com/alien2.jpg

Just checking in to see if anyone tuned in to Newt on Hannity and Colmes yesterday. I was online, but not near a television. :( But maybe someone can kindly summarize? :)

“Newt fever” among the staff began when—during springtime—
the first newts could be seen in the shallow ponds in the countryside
surrounding Cologne. Then, a small “expedition” of professors and
Ph.D. students with special fishing nets and buckets was assembled.
It was the ambition of every participant to catch as many newts as
possible. Various newt species preferred favorite ponds. T. vulgaris
and T. cristatus like sunny ponds, while T. alpestris prefers ponds that
are partly shaded and close to or within the forest (Figs. 1 and 2). The
different German species are shown in detail on my home page
(www.uni-essen.de/zoophysiologie) and on my videotape.www.ijdb.ehu.es/web/contents.php?vol=47&issue=2-3&doi=12705670 -

www.ijdb.ehu.es/web/contents.php?vol=47&issue=2-3&doi=12705670 -

It's an international phenomenon, to be sure. :)

It's an international phenomenon, to be sure. :)

Is it true that Newt's skin has to stay moist or he dies? How about the fact that he can only lay eggs in water? A moist egg-layer doesn't sound too presidential to me.

Perjury is quite another species of offense.
Clinton did not commit perjury. He lied under oath. There's a difference. The first is illegal, the second is not. And that's assuming that he actually lied, instead of telling what he thought was the truth.

Where is the: No, I'd rather die twice than vote for him, option?