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So when does a discussion become a blog?

SaintB
13-05-2007, 15:40
Is it because of the title? I attempted to make one of those rare threads (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526720) that wasn't about something thats not about to immediatly cause an argument. Basically it was "Hey, what'd you learn this week, here's what I learned". After getting what I took as an abusive comment (we won't name names though Yootopia) it was moved because of claims that it wasn't a discussion thread.

Thats not adiscussion thread? ( http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526720)

For what reason do paople not take it as a discussion thread, when a thread made about the worship of cheese is ok? Are we setting a double standard because I'm newer here? Do I care if I get flamed?

Discuss!
The_pantless_hero
13-05-2007, 15:41
Because we don't give a fuck about your personal life unless it has an element that affects our lives.
Katganistan
13-05-2007, 15:42
What you learned today is not of general interest.
Neither is a blow by blow discussion of one's family life, or what happened at school, or one's relationship problems...

If it's something to do with a common problem or happening people can discuss, it's a General forum thread.

If not, it's chat. Or spam.
Chumblywumbly
13-05-2007, 15:44
Well, a web log is one person’s thoughts. It’s one-sided, not a discussion.

So it would be totally out of place here on NS:G.
Ifreann
13-05-2007, 15:46
Going on about something that happened in your life and leaving us to comment on it is more blog like. (e.g. Pancake making a thread about her getting grounded)

Using something that happened from your life as an example of something and thus starting a discussion aboutn that something is discussion like. (e.g. Pancake making a thread about weight loss because she is losing weight)
AB Again
13-05-2007, 15:47
Personal history, that is not connected to some non personal theme, is simply blogging your life. This site is not a blog site, and as such these threads get moved (to spam generally).

If there is some event in your life that leads you to ask are more general question, then that is often acceptable. To just post what you learned in the last week though, is not what this forum is about. (yes I saw your thread before it was moved.)
Ultraviolent Radiation
13-05-2007, 15:51
Basically, a thread becomes more like a blog post than a discussion when it's based on the OP's life and its not clear exactly what people are supposed to discuss, assuming there is anything that they can discuss.
SaintB
13-05-2007, 15:55
Basically it was a thread asking people what new stuff they learned, I personally didn't have much of interest but it was the best I could do. So I guess because I had a boring week it makes my post a blog and not a discussion regardless of whether or not I invited people to add anything they learned?
SaintB
13-05-2007, 15:56
Whatif I call it Things We Learned This Week?
The Nazz
13-05-2007, 15:57
This seems to me to be more like a Moderation thread than anything else, and since a Mod has already spoken on the subject...
Ifreann
13-05-2007, 16:01
Whatif I call it Things We Learned This Week?

Then we'd suspect that you have multiple personalities.
AB Again
13-05-2007, 16:04
What can be discussed in "What we learned this week"? People post what they learned, and that is that. Where is the potential for discussion, the debate, the differences of opinion, the flames etc.
SaintB
13-05-2007, 16:05
I guess there is something inherantly wrong with trying to keep the peace.
Dryks Legacy
13-05-2007, 16:05
Going on about something that happened in your life and leaving us to comment on it is more blog like. (e.g. Pancake making a thread about her getting grounded)

Using something that happened from your life as an example of something and thus starting a discussion aboutn that something is discussion like. (e.g. Pancake making a thread about weight loss because she is losing weight)

Well this thread now has the "NSG is not Darknovae's blog" pope spell of death. *waves goodbye*
Katganistan
13-05-2007, 16:07
I guess there is something inherantly wrong with trying to keep the peace.

No, more like something wrong with not understanding the purpose of the General forum, and then acting aggrieved when the explanation of what is permissible is given to you. Hint: you're not being singled out; other blog-like threads have been moved to chat before.
Yootopia
13-05-2007, 16:11
Is it because of the title? I attempted to make one of those rare threads (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526720) that wasn't about something thats not about to immediatly cause an argument.
Pfft, nice try, on NSG.

It'd either die beneath a flood of abortion / Iraq / grrr the US / religion threads or turn into one.
Basically it was "Hey, what'd you learn this week, here's what I learned". After getting what I took as an abusive comment (we won't name names though Yootopia) it was moved because of claims that it wasn't a discussion thread.
Aiee, I feel named and marginally shamed, and incidentally, I hope that you did notice that I did indeed "GTFO" as you put it".

My point still stands. It's a list, not a discussion thread, and lists are basically spam.
Thats not adiscussion thread? ( http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526720)
No, it isn't. It's a "my life" thread. Unless you're actively looking for advice and are willing to write a bit of prose about what's going on, most people aren't interested at all in your life, because they've got their own, and there are so many things that one learns in a week that you just don't really care.

If, however, it was "this is what I learned in my life - crack is fun, is this OK, discuss"? then it'd be fine.

Making short, bland statements rather than really asking for participation is not.
For what reason do paople not take it as a discussion thread, when a thread made about the worship of cheese is ok?
Because worship entails religion, which is constantly a subject to debate, rather than "hey, let's make a list and increase our postcounts - For Great Justice!
Are we setting a double standard because I'm newer here?
Not at all, Fass and I are quite capable of being rude about anyone, don't get insecure about having few posts ;).
Do I care if I get flamed?
Is this, for some reason, something that the denizens of NSG can decide?
SaintB
13-05-2007, 16:14
Is this, for some reason, something that the denizens of NSG can decide?

Nah, just felt like it needed a third option for drama.
Curious Inquiry
13-05-2007, 16:20
I guess there is something inherantly wrong with trying to keep the peace.

I took a lot of creative writing classes in college. I was always trying to write a story that had no conflict. Several instructors told me it was impossible, that conflict is what makes a story a story. I was never successful, but I'm still not convinced. Keep trying! You may be doomed to spam, but it's still a noble cause.

And, um . . . interesting sig . . .
SaintB
13-05-2007, 16:23
I took a lot of creative writing classes in college. I was always trying to write a story that had no conflict. Several instructors told me it was impossible, that conflict is what makes a story a story. I was never successful, but I'm still not convinced. Keep trying! You may be doomed to spam, but it's still a noble cause.

And, um . . . interesting sig . . .

Thanks on both counts!
Curious Inquiry
13-05-2007, 16:29
Thanks on both counts!

You're welcome.

But the sig comment wasn't neccessarily a compliment :eek:
Katganistan
13-05-2007, 16:34
You make be wondering why this turned into a discussion and is not a blog. Well:


Title ----> So when does a discussion become a blog?
This gives us a clear indication of what the discussion is to be about.

Content ---> Rather than a list of things you learned, you gave some background, asked some questions, and gave us the basis for speaking about -- not necessarily agreeing on -- what constitutes a discussion vs. blogging thread.

Responses ---> posters could therefore discuss, clarify, qualify what they believed the difference between discussion threads and blog threads were. Posters cannot discuss, clarify or qualify your observations.
Curious Inquiry
13-05-2007, 16:39
You make be wondering why this turned into a discussion and is not a blog. Well:


Title ----> So when does a discussion become a blog?
This gives us a clear indication of what the discussion is to be about.

Content ---> Rather than a list of things you learned, you gave some background, asked some questions, and gave us the basis for speaking about -- not necessarily agreeing on -- what constitutes a discussion vs. blogging thread.

Responses ---> posters could therefore discuss, clarify, qualify what they believed the difference between discussion threads and blog threads were. Posters cannot discuss, clarify or qualify your observations.
Although we'll certainly try! ;)
Zarakon
13-05-2007, 23:07
If it's boring as fuck, it's a blog.

Well, that's a little to general. If the basic response to it is "Okay then", as in it doesn't ask any questions or leave room for discussion, it's boring.

For example, personal life threads tend to survive if they ask for advice, but not if they're just an...update.