NationStates Jolt Archive

TO ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RESIDENT IN THE USA:

The US Government has been torturing prisoners in Guantanamo Bay (with no evidence that they are guilty, otherwise they would have been tried by now) for years.

From http://jebba.blagblagblag.org/?p=218 :
Upon return to the U.S. all members of the group openly shared that they had been to Cuba and gave their names and addresses to Customs officials. Despite this high level of openness, the U.S. Treasury Department sent letters of inquiry to individuals that were not even on the the trip.

Witness Against Torture member Gary Ashbeck, of Baltimore’s Jonah House community, reflects, “We gave U.S. customs all the current information on our group and they were still not able to accurately account for who travelled. It seems that despite all their new methods of spying on U.S. citizens, our government has a very flawed intelligence program. It makes us wonder how good the intelligence is on the cases of those who are imprisoned at Guantánamo. Do they even know who is imprisoned there?”

There are plenty of beautiful countries to go to, so why travel to a country that tortures people?

Sure it will hit the economy, but it's about the only thing that can be done peacefully since it's near-impossible to get to the prison at Guantanamo Bay - and once the government realises what they are causing to happen to the economy, they will have to start allowing the prisoners access to the legal system.

If you care about others, please boycott the USA.

where do I sign? ;)

TO ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RESIDENT IN THE USA:

The US Government has been torturing prisoners in Guantanamo Bay (with no evidence that they are guilty, otherwise they would have been tried by now) for years.

From http://jebba.blagblagblag.org/?p=218 :


There are plenty of beautiful countries to go to, so why travel to a country that tortures people?

Sure it will hit the economy, but it's about the only thing that can be done peacefully since it's near-impossible to get to the prison at Guantanamo Bay - and once the government realises what they are causing to happen to the economy, they will have to start allowing the prisoners access to the legal system.

If you care about others, please boycott the USA.

I'm a resident, but I'll boycott it anyways.

I'm so confused about who you claim to be/believe from one thread to the next...

Haha.. blagblagblag.org. I like the name.

:D

http://yosh.org/hello1.jpg

If you don't want to come here, we don't want you here. Stay out.

It seems the U.S. government is doing all it can to strangle tourism with its ridiculous security in this country anyway so I don't think this would make a big difference.

If you don't want to come here, we don't want you here.

Does that include those in Guantanamo?

Does that include those in Guantanamo?

Why not? That's why they keep 'em in Cuba. Makes sense to me. :p

I got an idea. Let's boycott the Middle East. After all, we have video evidence of current residents of that region committing atrocities... such as beheading civilians, murdering children, undermining their own economy for the sake of political gain, general acts of terrorism, etc.

Boycott the Middle East. Boycott America. Boycott Europe and China. Boycott the god damned world why don't we?

If you want to feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside boycott oil. Boycott industry. Boycott living. Cause no amount of linear boycott is going to change a single damn thing that is wrong with this world and if you can't accept it you may as well just move to Ruby Ridge.

I got an idea. Let's boycott the Middle East. After all, we have video evidence of current residents of that region committing atrocities... such as beheading civilians, murdering children, undermining their own economy for the sake of political gain, general acts of terrorism, etc.

Boycott the Middle East. Boycott America. Boycott Europe and China. Boycott the god damned world why don't we?

If you want to feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside boycott oil. Boycott industry. Boycott living. Cause no amount of linear boycott is going to change a single damn thing that is wrong with this world and if you can't accept it you may as well just move to Ruby Ridge.
QFT! ^^^

Well said.

I got an idea. Let's boycott the Middle East. After all, we have video evidence of current residents of that region committing atrocities... such as beheading civilians, murdering children, undermining their own economy for the sake of political gain, general acts of terrorism, etc.

Boycott the Middle East. Boycott America. Boycott Europe and China. Boycott the god damned world why don't we?

If you want to feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside boycott oil. Boycott industry. Boycott living. Cause no amount of linear boycott is going to change a single damn thing that is wrong with this world and if you can't accept it you may as well just move to Ruby Ridge.

*claps*

*boycotts Multiland*

Boycott Soylent Green!

Well, this is all a bit mad.

That photo is suppose to be new? I noticed the date at the bottom was February 2006. The US armed forces had all switched to digital cammys by Feb 2006, so why was the soldier in the photo wearing old style jungle cammys? because he wasn't a US soldier.

I say we boycott Richard Quest. It is for everyones own good, believe me.

I got an idea. Let's boycott the Middle East. After all, we have video evidence of current residents of that region committing atrocities... such as beheading civilians, murdering children, undermining their own economy for the sake of political gain, general acts of terrorism, etc.

Boycott the Middle East. Boycott America. Boycott Europe and China. Boycott the god damned world why don't we?

If you want to feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside boycott oil. Boycott industry. Boycott living. Cause no amount of linear boycott is going to change a single damn thing that is wrong with this world and if you can't accept it you may as well just move to Ruby Ridge.

I'd award you with a medal of some kind.

*boycotts thread*


*is killed by the postmodern fairies*

TO ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RESIDENT IN THE USA:

The US Government has been torturing prisoners in Guantanamo Bay (with no evidence that they are guilty, otherwise they would have been tried by now) for years.

From http://jebba.blagblagblag.org/?p=218 :


There are plenty of beautiful countries to go to, so why travel to a country that tortures people?

Sure it will hit the economy, but it's about the only thing that can be done peacefully since it's near-impossible to get to the prison at Guantanamo Bay - and once the government realises what they are causing to happen to the economy, they will have to start allowing the prisoners access to the legal system.

If you care about others, please boycott the USA.

All the other countries of the world (with the possible exception of Israel) ALREADY boycott the USA. Our own news media boycott us. Even its government boycotts it. If you ask me, people need to STOP boycotting us and start getting along with us (and Israel) instead of trying to destroy us.

All the other countries of the world (with the possible exception of Israel) ALREADY boycott the USA. Our own news media boycott us. Even its government boycotts it. If you ask me, people need to STOP boycotting us and start getting along with us (and Israel) instead of trying to destroy us.

Yes, the whole world is out to destroy the US. :rolleyes:

If you don't want to come here, we don't want you here. Stay out.

Good, it's agreed then.

I got an idea. Let's boycott the Middle East. After all, we have video evidence of current residents of that region committing atrocities... such as beheading civilians, murdering children, undermining their own economy for the sake of political gain, general acts of terrorism, etc.

Boycott the Middle East. Boycott America. Boycott Europe and China. Boycott the god damned world why don't we?

If you want to feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside boycott oil. Boycott industry. Boycott living. Cause no amount of linear boycott is going to change a single damn thing that is wrong with this world and if you can't accept it you may as well just move to Ruby Ridge.

Greatest...Quote...Ever!!!

Allright, lets get the US military to help you boycott.

We'll just blockade YOU. :)

Dobbsworld hereby officially boycotts the United States of America and it's territories & protectorates.

If you want to feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside boycott oil. Boycott industry. Boycott living. Cause no amount of linear boycott is going to change a single damn thing that is wrong with this world and if you can't accept it you may as well just move to Ruby Ridge.

Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday night. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?

Dobbsworld hereby officially boycotts the United States of America and it's territories & protectorates.

'Bout time.

You know who have committed every single human rights abuse in recorded history? Humans. Boycott humanity!

All the other countries of the world (with the possible exception of Israel) ALREADY boycott the USA. Our own news media boycott us. Even its government boycotts it. If you ask me, people need to STOP boycotting us and start getting along with us (and Israel) instead of trying to destroy us.
Paranoia, eh?

We buy craploads of goods from the US in terms of consumer goods. All we don't buy is your godawful food.

Oh and to show that I don't boycott Israeli goods either, I'm eating some pitta bread from there. Albeit with falafel from Lebanon.

Let's see. Maybe we should boycott Multiland's threads, until he uses topics that are not related to issues with local areas in the UK. Who's wit me?

I'd award you with a medal of some kind.

But he's wrong. Boycott's have accomplished some pretty good things in this world. This country at least.

But of course, they work by making the people in charge realize that their decision to alienate large groups of people are having a negative impact on their business. George W. Bush is incapable of recognizing any bad event as being connected to anything he did. There's a strong chance that the last sound to be heard before the world ends is going to be Dubya saying, "it's not the time to play the blame game."

Its obvious to me what we have to do. Britain should invade and retake New England. The worst thing that ever happened to America was the declaration of independance and the American revolution. At least we would have not have invented junk food and television advertising!
Actually, knowing the US legal system, once 'ol George W. has gone and the camp Delta people released, they will all get to sue the US gov' and get Hundreds of millions in compensation. You watch!:p

Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday night. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?

I think, possibly , that this is a quote!:rolleyes:

I boycott the whole world!

*goes back under her rock*

I boycott the whole world!

*goes back under her rock*

Even NSG?

Even NSG?

NSG is too out of this world most days to make it under my boycott radar... :p

Its obvious to me what we have to do. Britain should invade and retake New England. The worst thing that ever happened to America was the declaration of independance and the American revolution. At least we would have not have invented junk food and television advertising!
Actually, knowing the US legal system, once 'ol George W. has gone and the camp Delta people released, they will all get to sue the US gov' and get Hundreds of millions in compensation. You watch!:p

:p

I'm a resident, but I'll boycott it anyways.

Yeah this. I converted most of my money into euros anyway because I'm smart like that.

I guess I'm a bit weird that way... I don't buy products if I don't like what I know about the producer/seller.
I understand that most people would try to buy image by buying products, I seem to be the other way round.
I've been doing some thinking, and the only USAmerican thing that I do spend money on are movies (at the cinema) and some books.

Please note that this isn't a conscious boycott of any kind, I either don't like the product or I don't like the company selling them.

I guess I'm a bit weird that way... I don't buy products if I don't like what I know about the producer/seller.

you are weird ;)

NSG is too out of this world most days to make it under my boycott radar... :p

last time I checked, the servers are on earth.

All we don't buy is your godawful food.


Oh? Then why are our fast food restaurants taking over the world? :D Surely you're not suggesting that Iowans are eating McDonald's in London?

last time I checked, the servers are on earth.

That's what they want you to think. How do you explain the time warps? ;)

At least we would have not have invented junk food and television advertising!


Two words: chip shop.
I mean for pity's sake, you get your fish and chips and you're not two steps down the street before the bag has gone translucent from the oil soaking through. You're not seriously calling that healthy?

And go away with your superior television that you have to buy a license for each year. We get our telly free if we're willing to deal with aerials.

And we send you our programming, too!
(Please send more Dr Who).

Oh? Then why are our fast food restaurants taking over the world? :D Surely you're not suggesting that Iowans are eating McDonald's in London?
It doesn't count as food to most people, which is why it isn't included :p

Two words: chip shop.
I mean for pity's sake, you get your fish and chips and you're not two steps down the street before the bag has gone translucent from the oil soaking through. You're not seriously calling that healthy?

And go away with your superior television that you have to buy a license for each year. We get our telly free if we're willing to deal with aerials.

he has a point though kat...ive visited the states lots and its 300 channels of shite to be honest...fish and chips is very unhealthy...but its great on a friday night washed down with a lovely cup of tea ;)

Two words: chip shop.
I mean for pity's sake, you get your fish and chips and you're not two steps down the street before the bag has gone translucent from the oil soaking through. You're not seriously calling that healthy?
Aha - but it is surprisingly healthy - the chips aren't all that bad for you and the fish is poached inside the batter, rather than fried. The real problem lies in the paper, really :p
And go away with your superior television that you have to buy a license for each year. We get our telly free if we're willing to deal with aerials.
2 points to clear up here -

1) It's not really superior most of the time
2) The license pays for advert-free programming, which is kind of worth it.
And we send you our programming, too!
See point one above ;)
(Please send more Dr Who).
We'll swap it for concurrent episodes of Battlestar Galactica :)

That's what they want you to think. How do you explain the time warps? ;)

There re multiple servers and the clocks are messed up.

It doesn't count as food to most people, which is why it isn't included :p

Seriously though -- if people didn't buy it and eat it, it wouldn't be profitable. If it weren't profitable, they would close the shops and they'd go away.

Since the shops are there, they are profitable.
If they are profitable, someone must be frequenting them. So......
Elves?

Aha - but it is surprisingly healthy - the chips aren't all that bad for you and the fish is poached inside the batter, rather than fried. The real problem lies in the paper, really :p

2 points to clear up here -

1) It's not really superior most of the time
2) The license pays for advert-free programming, which is kind of worth it.

See point one above ;)

We'll swap it for concurrent episodes of Battlestar Galactica :)

Yus -- but we don't get fined for trying to watch tv without buying the license. Besides, the adveristing has led to a great cultural phenomenon -- being able to get up, run to the bathroom, and get back mid-program without missing a thing! (You don't seriously think most of us sit and watch the commercials, I hope?)

Oh? Then why are our fast food restaurants taking over the world? :D Surely you're not suggesting that Iowans are eating McDonald's in London?

wait? That's food?

Yus -- but we don't get fined for trying to watch tv without buying the license.


to be honest id rather buy a license and watch semi quality tv than have to sit through commercials every two minutes...ok...its a little steep...probably about $250 dollars american a year...but its not public broadcast tv!!

Yus -- but we don't get fined for trying to watch tv without buying the license. Besides, the adveristing has led to a great cultural phenomenon -- being able to get up, run to the bathroom, and get back mid-program without missing a thing! (You don't seriously think most of us sit and watch the commercials, I hope?)

If you need to go to the bathroom with that frequency I suggest you visit a doctor.

Seriously though -- if people didn't buy it and eat it, it wouldn't be profitable. If it weren't profitable, they would close the shops and they'd go away.

Since the shops are there, they are profitable.
If they are profitable, someone must be frequenting them. So......
Elves?
Yes, well that is true, admittedly, but since you don't eat McDonalds for tea unless you're a junkie or poor (or a combination of the two), I don't consider it food as much as a snack.

Anyway - none of your beef or GM crops for us. Whoa no.
Yus -- but we don't get fined for trying to watch tv without buying the license. Besides, the adveristing has led to a great cultural phenomenon -- being able to get up, run to the bathroom, and get back mid-program without missing a thing! (You don't seriously think most of us sit and watch the commercials, I hope?)
Ah, but we cut down on electricity usage by not having ad-breaks (indeed, for the soaps on ITV / 4 / 5, the National grid increases its output quite a bit to cope with people putting the kettle on :D)

to be honest id rather buy a license and watch semi quality tv than have to sit through commercials every two minutes...ok...its a little steep...probably about $250 dollars american a year...but its not public broadcast tv!!

American adverts are even more annoying than British ones too, IIRC.

but its not public broadcast tv!!

And yet what we send you often is.... Friends, Dynasty..... ;)

American adverts are even more annoying than British ones too, IIRC.

easy ultra hows tricks ;)

and you're right...but then again the UK is the greatest nation in the world...not being bias...its just a fact...everyone else in the world suffers from country inferiority complex :cool:

And yet what we send you often is.... Friends, Dynasty..... ;)
wtf is Dynasty?
easy ultra hows tricks ;)

and you're right...but then again the UK is the greatest nation in the world...not being bias...its just a fact...everyone else in the world suffers from country inferiority complex :cool:
Sadly not true.

Sadly not true.

in everything that counts...fashion music lifestyle etc etc etc....the UK is the cool capital of the world...yes you have to pay through the nose for it...ive lived abroad quite alot so I have a good perspective on things...and I wouldn't swap my UK passport for anything ;)

in everything that counts...fashion music lifestyle etc etc etc....the UK is the cool capital of the world...yes you have to pay through the nose for it...ive lived abroad quite alot so I have a good perspective on things...and I wouldn't swap my UK passport for anything ;)
Fashion - we're about the equal of the other Europeans
Music - yeah, fair point
Lifestyle - prefer it in the Med, where it's a bit less hectic - but I guess it takes bloody ages to get things done by local people.

"Care to fix my window mate, you were supposed to be here 3 hours ago?"
"Mañana, mañana"
"No really, it's broken, and I want it fixing today, not tommorow"
"Pffft, mañana"
"Right... *hangs up*"

It's the price that's a bitch, to be honest.

Fashion - we're about the equal of the other Europeans.

Are you taking the piss??

Have you seen the rucksack wearing...jeans turned up french?

The speedo swimtrunk germans?

my god man!!

Boycott Oxygen Now!!!

If It Weren't For Oxygen, There Would Be No Explosions!!!

:-p

Are you taking the piss??

Have you seen the rucksack wearing...jeans turned up french?

The speedo swimtrunk germans?

my god man!!
The Italians look pretty nifty, though. As do the majority of the Scandinavians (the Saami aside, they look like bloody elves on speed).

The Italians look pretty nifty, though. As do the majority of the Scandinavians (the Saami aside, they look like bloody elves on speed).

smart formal wear I have to agree...but its all about the street ;)

I'm boycotting everyone excpet me. So there :p

smart formal wear I have to agree...but its all about the street ;)
Ah, but that's what a lot of them wear on the street -

Incidently, there is at least one person in the UK wearing synthetics as clothing. That's about the worst thing you could ever wear, so we start to lose out sharpish on the cool fashion front.

The Italians look pretty nifty, though. As do the majority of the Scandinavians (the Saami aside, they look like bloody elves on speed).

Yeah, the Scandinavian nations (and Finland) have Britain beat hands down in the fashion department. And the music department (where else would one get good metal?). And the "paying way too freaking much for a bottle of beer" department.

Gimme Canada.

Gimme Canada.

too many marshmellows...good girls who dont put out on the first date...all round general nice people...crap beer and folks who say 'fer sure eh?' after every sentence ;)

I'm boycotting everyone excpet me. So there :p

I'm boycotting everyone except you too, Ifreann. ;)

Boycott Made In China?

But I live in the USA. What am I supposed to do?

I'm boycotting everyone except you too, Ifreann. ;)

Good choice.

I'm boycotting everyone excpet me. So there :p

You're boycotting me? :(

Fine! I'll boycott you then too! No more fluffles for you! :mad:

I got an idea. Let's boycott the Middle East. After all, we have video evidence of current residents of that region committing atrocities... such as beheading civilians, murdering children, undermining their own economy for the sake of political gain, general acts of terrorism, etc.

Boycott the Middle East. Boycott America. Boycott Europe and China. Boycott the god damned world why don't we?

If you want to feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside boycott oil. Boycott industry. Boycott living. Cause no amount of linear boycott is going to change a single damn thing that is wrong with this world and if you can't accept it you may as well just move to Ruby Ridge.

LOL, nice and remember kids to boycott eating. It is after all bad for the enviroment.

But I live in the USA. What am I supposed to do?

Keep posting pictures on NSG. Clearly that is the only thing you can do to save yourself. ;)

*blink blink*

...Um...No?

I'm boycotting everyone except you too, Ifreann. ;)

boycott away...ill just send boatloads of immigrants over to bleed Katganistan of its resources :cool:

I'm going to boycott Guantanamo Bay, then. *nods*

Keeping posting pictures on NSG. Clearly that is the only thing you can do to save yourself. ;)
I demand to see these alleged pictures.

Two words: chip shop.
I mean for pity's sake, you get your fish and chips and you're not two steps down the street before the bag has gone translucent from the oil soaking through. You're not seriously calling that healthy?

And go away with your superior television that you have to buy a license for each year. We get our telly free if we're willing to deal with aerials.

And we send you our programming, too!
(Please send more Dr Who).

Let them keep chanting "our" food is "godawful".

They may really believe it someday.

But I live in the USA. What am I supposed to do?
Move to Canada, and then boycott US goods :p

But I live in the USA. What am I supposed to do?

keep enjoying it.

Move to Canada, and then boycott US goods :p
What happens if the Canadians boycott you, though?

Yeah, the Scandinavian nations (and Finland) have Britain beat hands down in the fashion department.
Not really beat down, but on par.
And the music department (where else would one get good metal?).
Yeah, if you're into metal, it's good. Other than that... let's sum it up in a single, ignorant word - Bjørk.
And the "paying way too freaking much for a bottle of beer" department.
Quite. And also, cigarettes at £8 for twenty?

Nej tak!
Gimme Canada.
Quite.

What happens if the Canadians boycott you, though?

Move to antarctica.

What happens if the Canadians boycott you, though?
Err I'd be a tiny bit sad, but nothing more, really. Because since I produce very little in terms of primary or secondary goods (although I do perform tertiary services now and then!), I wouldn't be a particularly strong trading partner anyway.

Move to Canada, and then boycott US goods :p

But I can't move to Canada for another 3 years... :(

you can all come stay at my house if you want...but ive only got one sofa bed so you will have to squeeze up...and dont get any crumbs on the carpet

ooh, ooh!

In Soviet Russia, America boycott you!

Heh, was wondering when someone was going to post this. :)

ooh, ooh!

In Soviet Russia, America boycott you!

keep enjoying it.

But I don't enjoy it. I live in the Southeastern USA.

But I don't enjoy it. I live in the Southeastern USA.

C'mon up north. Only thing wrong with it is its filled with us Yankees. ;)

But I don't enjoy it. I live in the Southeastern USA.
Fly to the UK and claim you're an asylum seeker from Zimbabwe. Upon recieving a UK citizenship in a couple of years (almost automatic, because you're white and an English speaker), get a degree in engineering of some kind from a Scottish university (hint - their university system is mostly free if you've been living in Scotland for a year!) and the Canadians will offer you a job, because you're a Scottish craftsperson, and those are in high demand in the US of Eh?

Ta-da!

C'mon up north. Only thing wrong with it is its filled with us Yankees. ;)

you're all yanks to me ;)

you're all yanks to me ;)

Ah, but there is a difference between yanks, Yankees, and the NY Yankees.

Ah, but there is a difference between yanks, Yankees, and the NY Yankees.
Indeed.

Yanks - you yanks :p
Yankees - the yanks who fought those retarded southern yanks
NY Yankees - yanks playing the yank game of yankball, correct?

Indeed.

Yanks - you yanks :p
Yankees - the yanks who fought those retarded southern yanks
NY Yankees - yanks playing the yank game of yankball, correct?

right bunch of yankers ;)

Indeed.

Yanks - you yanks :p
Yankees - the yanks who fought those retarded southern yanks
NY Yankees - yanks playing the yank game of yankball, correct?

hey hey hey
Calling a Southerner a Yankee can get you shot in some places.
And I don't mean "in the kiester."

Southerners do NOT like to be confused with us northerners.

hey hey hey
Calling a Southerner a Yankee can get you shot in some places.
And I don't mean "in the kiester."

Southerners do NOT like to be confused with us northerners.

*whistles dixie*

Fly to the UK and claim you're an asylum seeker from Zimbabwe. Upon recieving a UK citizenship in a couple of years (almost automatic, because you're white and an English speaker), get a degree in engineering of some kind from a Scottish university (hint - their university system is mostly free if you've been living in Scotland for a year!) and the Canadians will offer you a job, because you're a Scottish craftsperson, and those are in high demand in the US of Eh?

Ta-da!

But since I'm white, how do I claim I'm from Zimbabwe? *knows nearly nothing about Zimbabwe anyway*

hey hey hey
Calling a Southerner a Yankee can get you shot in some places.
And I don't mean "in the kiester."

Southerners do NOT like to be confused with us northerners.

I don't wanna be no stankin Yankee! Ferkin Yankehs killd ar boys! HERITAGE NOT HATE! GIT R DONE!

Wait... I'm from Ohio... *is a Yankee* >.> <.<

I don't wanna be no stankin Yankee! Ferkin Yankehs killd ar boys! HERITAGE NOT HATE! GIT R DONE!

Wait... I'm from Ohio... *is a Yankee* >.> <.<

Y'all stankin Yankees! Let'in de imergants takin' away ar jerbs!

But since I'm white, how do I claim I'm from Zimbabwe? *knows nearly nothing about Zimbabwe anyway*
The white farmers have been getting generally pissed around in Zimbabwe, getting their land taken off them, being arrested basically for no reason etc. (basically Apartheid the other way around) so if you came into the airport looking a bit roughed up, it'd all be good.

hey hey hey
Calling a Southerner a Yankee can get you shot in some places.
And I don't mean "in the kiester."
Quite.

Top Gear (a British TV show) nearly had its presenters lynched because they wrote slogans on each others cars like "Gay is OK" and "Indy 500 sucks".

Comic gold, mind. Even as they ran for their lives, being cased by a pick-up truck full of actually angry men pretty much up to the border (not staged!).
Southerners do NOT like to be confused with us northerners.
It's cool, since they go around in their hillbillyish way, with 11 fingers (in addition to both thumbs), speaking some incomprehensible drawl and claiming that, actually, 7 Up is some kind of coke, I think I'd recognise the difference. Oh, plus it looks like Mad Max, and everyone rides horses with mounted fifty-cals down there.

All of them.

Y'all stankin Yankees! Let'in de imergants takin' away ar jerbs!

Hey! Hey, I'm not the one letting immigrants take the jobs!

And I didn't know you lived in the Southern USA Syrup ;)

Quite.

Top Gear (a British TV show) nearly had its presenters lynched because they wrote slogans on each others cars like "Gay is OK" and "Indy 500 sucks".

Comic gold, mind. Even as they ran for their lives, being cased by a pick-up truck full of actually angry men pretty much up to the border (not staged!).

It's cool, since they go around in their hillbillyish way, with 11 fingers (in addition to both thumbs), speaking some incomprehensible drawl and claiming that, actually, 7 Up is some kind of coke, I think I'd recognise the difference. Oh, plus it looks like Mad Max, and everyone rides horses with mounted fifty-cals down there.

All of them.


whats with all the hatin on the south?
i live up north and i hate it up here..way too hectic,i am moving to alabama for a year(for my girl)then down to florida.most of the people i have met from the south seem very polite and hospitable.
you want to talk about ignorant rude people,go to north jersey or nyc,and i was born in the queens,i hate it up there...cept manhatten,the whole area sucks.

whats with all the hatin on the south?

you want to talk about ignorant rude people,go to north jersey or nyc,and i was born in the queens,i hate it up there...cept manhatten,the whole area sucks.

QFT

Oh no, stop don't...

In other, more important and useful news, America spent more money today helping a destitute, starving country that can't take care of itself rather than spending the money on a destitute, starving American in America.

In further, more important and useful news, I officially declare today, May 13, 2007, Metallica Day! All those who oppose meet me on the Whitestone Bridge at 4:00 p.m. and bring a life jacket. You'll need it!

Wow. That'll work. :rolleyes:

You know what amazes me about all the "America haters" here in NSG is the lack of perception and reality. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. If we invade Iraq we're damned for interfering with their lives and shoving our views down their throat. In said, same country, if we don't prevent a religious killing we're at fault for NOT interferring with their lives and shoving our views down their throat. Yet, to some, America remains the great Satan for both our actions and lack there of but just remember, the next time some country is brought to its knees because of Mother Nature you can count on America doing more for THAT country than our own.

So please boycott America. The more countries that boycott us the less of MY tax dollars that have to go to help them because they can't even help themselves. I'd love to see my tax dollars actually go to MY country rather than some pathetic country that has more corruption than we'll ever have but said country is considered a pillar of everything to most people here.

Also what continues to amaze me is if America is SOOO bad then why are people literally killing each other and risking life or limb to get into America to make a better life for themselves? Is it our great propaganda? If it were true, why the hell aren't they leaving but instead coming in much greater numbers?

um... they havn't actually tortured the inmates, at all. Life there may be grim, but I would like to see a credible source giving evidence of actual torture.

um... they havn't actually tortured the inmates, at all. Life there may be grim, but I would like to see a credible source giving evidence of actual torture.

And what kind of source would you consider to be "credible"?

A quick check of Amnesty International would indicate that the only country that qualifies for tourism would be Andorra.

A terrifying thought would be the consequences of America boycotting foreign imports. Then everyboby gets to go broke. Would you care for some powdered milk with your gruel?

On the brighter side perhaps we can all develop our spititual non-materialistic facets together. Group hugs and Om Shanti(s) or might that be shanties(?) for all.
:fluffle:
:fluffle:

And what kind of source would you consider to be "credible"?

If you ask me, "credible" would be something that wasn't trying to push a bias opinion and that actually backs up it's "sources" with some kinda proof.

But you didn't ask me.

If you ask me, "credible" would be something that wasn't trying to push a bias opinion and that actually backs up it's "sources" with some kinda proof.

But you didn't ask me.

I'm asking him. After all, it depends on the person. Typical american conservatives find FOX news to be credible, but the rest of us don't.

If no one objects, I take this as the final nail in the coffin that Multiland is a troll. Because that's the most likely explanation for him constantly tooting the US's horn and then posting this.

If no one objects, I take this as the final nail in the coffin that Multiland is a troll. Because that's the most likely explanation for him constantly tooting the US's horn and then posting this.

I not would call him a troll. Just stupid and Ignorant

And what kind of source would you consider to be "credible"?

I saw the former head of the CIA on 60 minutes, and he said they use sleep deporvation, and something that makes it feel like you're drowning. Sorry, but if you're not being harmed, it's not torture. It's interrigation.

Of course, I'm going to get the usual, "HE'S A G-MAN!!!111 HE LIES!!!!11"

I would call him a troll. Just stuoid and Ignorant

1. You would call him a troll, so why is there a "just" there?
2. What is stuoid?
3. Why is ignorant capitalized? It doesn't start a sentence.

You must have forgot that most of american manufacturers moved overseas. So your going to hurt the world economy, not just the american.

I saw the former head of the CIA on 60 minutes, and he said they use sleep deporvation, and something that makes it feel like you're drowning. Sorry, but if you're not being harmed, it's not torture. It's interrigation.

Of course, I'm going to get the usual, "HE'S A G-MAN!!!111 HE LIES!!!!11"

Sleep deprivation is harmful.
If these things weren't harmful, people probably would not give up information because of them...

Sleep deprivation is harmful.
If these things weren't harmful, people probably would not give up information because of them...

It's very uncomfortable, but it's very unlikely to cause any permenant harm. And in no way does it equate to deliberatle administering immediate pain to people.

Sleep deprivation is harmful.
If these things weren't harmful, people probably would not give up information because of them...

Well, you see, the government operates under the assumption that terrorists are, in fact, demonic robots, and therefore have no souls, and therefore are immune to emotional and mental assaults.

It's very uncomfortable, but it's very unlikely to cause any permenant harm. And in no way does it equate to deliberatle administering immediate pain to people.

Umm...you do realize you can DIE from sleep deprivation, don't you?

And what kind of source would you consider to be "credible"?

Preferably a non biased source. Even better would be one who is neither part of the Bush administration or an inmate in guantanamo bay. That would be a start, but this is not real evidence.

Umm...you do realize you can DIE from sleep deprivation, don't you?

Obviously it would be counter productive to allow the inmates to die.

It's very uncomfortable, but it's very unlikely to cause any permenant harm. And in no way does it equate to deliberatle administering immediate pain to people.

Rofl.

Well, let us slowly poison you, messing you up mentally so you start seeing things, before you die or go into a coma when your organs give out from exhaustion.

Obviously it would be counter productive to allow the inmates to die.

You'd think it would be counterproductive to keep innocent people there too, but that doesn't stop them.

Are you aware that their are SEVEN year olds in Abu Gharib? Could you please explain what horrific crime these seven year olds commited, other then being poor and brown?

You'd think it would be counterproductive to keep innocent people there too.


Going on a completely pragmatical approach, why would this be the case?


Are you aware that their are SEVEN year olds in Abu Gharib? Could you please explain what horrific crime these seven year olds commited, other then being poor and brown?

I'ev heard rumours, but nothing verified.

I love these "Boycott USA threads" It makes me giggle, as to how everything we do is under a microscope but if you've seen the things that go on in Rwanda, Somali and the Middle east (Women lose their clits there) America would look liek saints.

But this happened to Rome and Greece, all super powers come under scrutiny, I just laugh and move on.

Obviously it would be counter productive to allow the inmates to die.

That is why Herbert West is a resident at Guantanamo Bay. http://www.pennyblood.com/sg_reanimator.jpg

You know what amazes me about all the "America haters" here in NSG is the lack of perception and reality.
Indeed. My GOD, they're crawling out of the woodwork here :eek:

Have you seen so many, positively answering the call of the boycott? 128 post thus far!!! And let me take the liberty of posting ALL of the posts that comes close to being non-residential America-hating...
TO ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RESIDENT IN THE USA:
[...]

If you care about others, please boycott the USA.
The OP...
where do I sign? ;)
I'm not sure Beeker counts...
Dobbsworld hereby officially boycotts the United States of America and it's territories & protectorates.
That's one...
I boycott the whole world!

*goes back under her rock*
That doesn't count either...

But damn woman, you have a rock?! :eek:

So where does that leave us? We have a maximum of three posters, including the OP, that could fit under your description. Eh? Please. :rolleyes: You're not a victim, and there are a whole lot less "america haters" on NSG than you imagine. There are some, but strangely enough, you won't find them here...

We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. If we invade Iraq we're damned for interfering with their lives and shoving our views down their throat. In said, same country, if we don't prevent a religious killing we're at fault for NOT interferring with their lives and shoving our views down their throat.
The two are not mutually exclusive you see. The US fucked up and went to war when it shouldn't have. After the invasion, it fucked up by being unable to keep the peace after stirring up the hornets nest. So you are wrong.

Yet, to some, America remains the great Satan for both our actions and lack there of but just remember, the next time some country is brought to its knees because of Mother Nature you can count on America doing more for THAT country than our own.
So because the US has done some good things, the US should be allowed to do some bad things? Nice philosophy.

So please boycott America. The more countries that boycott us the less of MY tax dollars that have to go to help them because they can't even help themselves. I'd love to see my tax dollars actually go to MY country rather than some pathetic country that has more corruption than we'll ever have but said country is considered a pillar of everything to most people here.

Also what continues to amaze me is if America is SOOO bad then why are people literally killing each other and risking life or limb to get into America to make a better life for themselves? Is it our great propaganda? If it were true, why the hell aren't they leaving but instead coming in much greater numbers?
The quality of life =/= the morals and ethics of the government.

You can live a decent life with a good job while owning a swimmingpool and a big screen TV while the government authorizes torture, starts illegal wars, supplies terrorists, ignores human right, etc etc. It happens all over the world, why not in America too?

Going on a completely pragmatical approach, why would this be the case?



I'ev heard rumours, but nothing verified.

I've heard rumors that there's a war in Iraq. Nothing verified.

-- but if you've seen the things that go on in Rwanda, Somali and the Middle east (Women lose their clits there) America would look liek saints.

Well, not really. They can't really be expected to know better. The US, on the other hand, should know better. That's the difference.

And yes, I'm ++ing to get my post count above 10.

I've heard rumors that there's a war in Iraq. Nothing verified.

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

It's absurd to dismiss a child being held in a torture prison as "unverified rumors". I tend to trust NPR.

Are you aware that their are SEVEN year olds in Abu Gharib? Could you please explain what horrific crime these seven year olds commited, other then being poor and brown?
I haven't heard that... The youngest I've heard about is the young teens...
On January 29, Asadullah and two other juvenile prisoners were returned home to Afghanistan. The three boys are not sure of their ages. But, according to the estimate of the Red Cross, Asadullah is the youngest, aged 12 at the time of his arrest. The second youngest, Naqibullah, was arrested with him, aged perhaps 13, while the third boy, Mohammed Ismail, was a child at the time of his separate arrest, but probably isn't now.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/guantanamo/story/0,13743,1163435,00.html
...that were released in 2004.

I don't see the need for them to be kept at Guantanamo at all though.

It's absurd to dismiss a child being held in a torture prison as "unverified rumors". I tend to trust NPR.

I havn't dismissed it, you asked me if I have heard and I told you what I had heard.

Sleep deprivation is harmful.
If these things weren't harmful, people probably would not give up information because of them...

Really? You mean that you can die from sleep deprivation?

Funny, in the Gulag's, men didn't sleep for as long as 3 weeks.

That's on top of being starved, shot, and being in -40 degree weather for the entire year.

So even if our "torture" methods are "harmful," I'm pretty sure it's the equivilant to child's play by the rest of the world's standards.

So even if our "torture" methods are "harmful," I'm pretty sure it's the equivilant to child's play by the rest of the world's standards.

...yeah, that would make the torture so much more ethical and acceptable :rolleyes:

Really? You mean that you can die from sleep deprivation?

Funny, in the Gulag's, men didn't sleep for as long as 3 weeks.

That's on top of being starved, shot, and being in -40 degree weather for the entire year.

So even if our "torture" methods are "harmful," I'm pretty sure it's the equivilant to child's play by the rest of the world's standards.

I'd like to see a link showing anybody being deprived of sleep for more than a week and a half and not suffering any lasting physical effects.

I'd like to see a link showing anybody being deprived of sleep for more than a week and a half and not suffering any lasting physical effects.

Do the Rolling Stones count?

...yeah, that would make the torture so much more ethical and acceptable :rolleyes:

Well, you don't actually know if sleep deprivation is causing the inmates give out vital info about potential terrorist attacks.

Well, you don't actually know if sleep deprivation is causing the inmates give out vital info about potential terrorist attacks.

It doesn't matter if they do or not. It doesn't make it more ethical or less criminal.

And after more then five years? Please!

It doesn't matter if they do or not. It doesn't make it more ethical

If it really is stopping terrorism, wouldn't it generally be seen as the lesser of two evils to deprive some terrorists of sleep to ensure that thousands of other lives are being saved.


or less criminal


Who decides what is and isn't criminal?

Do the Rolling Stones count?

Take Keith Richards out of the equation and we'll talk.

Aw man how could I possibly boycott Disneyworld? :p

Seriously though Multiland - you really think our government hasn't tried some of the things teh US gov't has?

Guantanamo is not the fault of the entire US populace last time I checked. Both times I was in the US I met a lot of nice people. So I refuse to boycott.

If it really is stopping terrorism, wouldn't it generally be seen as the lesser of two evils to deprive some terrorists of sleep to ensure that thousands of other lives are being saved.
And if we shoot 5,000 random people I'm sure we'll get some criminals too and the level of crime goes down.:rolleyes:

It's not about depriving terrorists of sleep, it's about torturing suspects. And the ends, as usual, does not justify the means. And also, there is no evidence whatsoever that this has saved a single life.


Who decides what is and isn't criminal?
The government, especially the legislative branch? (http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html) The nations of the world, or the UN? (http://www.ohchr.org/english/law/cat.htm) The people?

If it really is stopping terrorism, wouldn't it generally be seen as the lesser of two evils to deprive some terrorists of sleep to ensure that thousands of other lives are being saved.



Who decides what is and isn't criminal?

But can we be sure that they all or, indeed, some of them, are terrorists?
Why have a prison in another country anyway?
Why not keep them in a mainland American prison, where the activities might be monitored slightly more easily?

If they're terrorists then keep them in the USA itself as opposed to property leased by a foreign nation.

The collective majority decide whether or not something is a crime.
The last I looked, torture was counted as a crime.

By the way, I'm not going to boycott the USA (why? To harm the economy which would then cause the millions living there to also suffer, rather than just their government?) or America (boycotting America would involve boycotting Brazil, Canada, Mexico, Chile, Peru and the rest of two entire continents ;)).
I am, however, critical of the American government, although not so much of the American people (may I just ask how George Bush got into power again, though? How? I thought you were all intelligent...).

And if we shoot 5,000 random people I'm sure we'll get some criminals too and the level of crime goes down.:rolleyes:


I wasn't aware that the government were killing them, nor was I not aware that the government were not sure whether the inmates are innocent or not :rolleyes:


It's not about depriving terrorists of sleep, it's about torturing suspects.


The government views them as more then just "suspects". And we are in no position to know any better.


And the ends, as usual, does not justify the means.


Why? We don't know what the ends are, or even the means.


And also, there is no evidence whatsoever that this has saved a single life.


No evidence that it hasn't, or that it wont, either.


The government, especially the legislative branch? (http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html) The nations of the world, or the UN? (http://www.ohchr.org/english/law/cat.htm) The people?

The point I was getting at is, ultimately it is the government that decides what is criminal. The government has decided that guantanamo bay is legal, so you can't say it is criminal. The government also insists that what they are doing is consistent with Geneva Convention. So we cannot really know if what they are doing is criminal in that respect.

1. You would call him a troll, so why is there a "just" there?
2. What is stuoid?
3. Why is ignorant capitalized? It doesn't start a sentence.

fixed. Its just that I have a crappy keyboard.

fixed. Its just that I have a crappy keyboard.

Ah. My bad, I just wasn't quite sure what you were trying to say there.

I wasn't aware that the government were killing them, nor was I not aware that the government were not sure whether the inmates are innocent or not :rolleyes:
Then you should make yourself aware.
But of the 773 detainees who have spent time in Guantanamo, the government has released roughly half, most because they had no information and no role in any fighting. The majority were sent home after the evidence against each was formally reviewed at military hearings required in 2004 by the Supreme Court, which rejected the Bush administration's claim that it could detain foreign nationals indefinitely without such sessions.

Of the 393 prisoners who remain today, the military has determined that 85 pose so little threat, they should be transferred to their home countries. Officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because some evidence about the prisoners is classified, estimate that about 200 pose a danger to Americans.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/15/AR2007011501227_2.html


The government views them as more then just "suspects". And we are in no position to know any better.
See above. Am I going to just trust the administration in this? After 5 years? Hell no. They're still just suspects...


Why? We don't know what the ends are, or even the means.
Yet we have testimony of the prisoners who have been released and the lawyers of those who are still there, and from the FBI, and from some soldiers, and from the ICRC...


No evidence that it hasn't, or that it wont, either.
Impossible to prove a negative, and the burden of proof is on them.


The point I was getting at is, ultimately it is the government that decides what is criminal. The government has decided that guantanamo bay is legal, so you can't say it is criminal. The government also insists that what they are doing is consistent with Geneva Convention. So we cannot really know if what they are doing is criminal in that respect.
Because they won't let us know. And since they refuse to let UN or NGOs freely inspect the camp, I don't believe them.

Quite.

Top Gear (a British TV show) nearly had its presenters lynched because they wrote slogans on each others cars like "Gay is OK" and "Indy 500 sucks".

Comic gold, mind. Even as they ran for their lives, being cased by a pick-up truck full of actually angry men pretty much up to the border (not staged!).



I laughed 'til i cried watching that episode! the cow on the roof was hilarious, and the people at the end, threatening to sue because the car they had been given absolutely free wasn't the exact spec mentioned... pure genius :D

Edit: sorry, forgot to say: I shan't boycott America; I don't see it having much of an impact, and if it did, it would be on the wrong people. I would like to bring guantanamo to some kind of resolution though - if its true that they have 7 year olds there, that's pretty shocking. Either way, after all these years, surely they should have found enough evidence to bring charges by now?

Edit again: If they do have 7 year olds, perhaps they are there with their mothers, rather than detained on their own account?

TO ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RESIDENT IN THE USA:

The US Government has been torturing prisoners in Guantanamo Bay (with no evidence that they are guilty, otherwise they would have been tried by now) for years.

From http://jebba.blagblagblag.org/?p=218 :


There are plenty of beautiful countries to go to, so why travel to a country that tortures people?

Sure it will hit the economy, but it's about the only thing that can be done peacefully since it's near-impossible to get to the prison at Guantanamo Bay - and once the government realises what they are causing to happen to the economy, they will have to start allowing the prisoners access to the legal system.

If you care about others, please boycott the USA.

I don't think that ALL Americans are to blame for the whole Guantanamo Bay thing, which is why I wouldn't boycott the entire USA. :)

I don't think that ALL Americans are to blame for the whole Guantanamo Bay thing, which is why I wouldn't boycott the entire USA. :)

No... of course not...

*Hides wet newspaper*

For crying out loud, get a grip.

I declare myself sick of people who think the world should be a peacefull and bland place, full of environmentalists and America haters.

For crying out loud, get a grip.

I declare myself sick of people who think the world should be a peacefull and bland place, full of environmentalists and America haters.

Yay War! Yay Destruction of the Environment! Yay blind patriotism!

And Americans can only buy foreign products and refuse to pay taxes. :)

For crying out loud, get a grip.

I declare myself sick of people who think the world should be a peacefull and bland place, full of environmentalists and America haters.

And I declare myself sick of people who think the world should be a chaotic and "interesting place", where there aren't any civil rights whatsoever, full of right-wingers, militant idiots, and fundamentalist dumbasses.

Though I still believe that no one should ever boycott America, as it wouldn't do any harm to us whatsoever.