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Unlucky_and_unbiddable
12-05-2007, 17:20
I was wondering if some of you amazingly intelligent people on NSG could either recommend some 17th/18th century French Literature or some late 19th century Russian Literature to me.
I should add: I've read Voltaire (Candide and On Policy) as well as some Rousseau. For Russian I've read War and Peace and a lot of Fyodor Dostoevsky I want to go in a bit deeper now...
Zarakon
12-05-2007, 17:20
Ummm...I'm going to have to go with "no".
RLI Rides Again
12-05-2007, 17:24
I was wondering if some of you amazingly intelligent people on NSG could either recommend some 17th/18th century French Literature or some late 19th century Russian Literature to me.

Tolstoy's War and Peace is the first Russian text that springs to mind. As for French, you can't go wrong with Voltaire: Candide is one of the funniest books I've ever read.
Barringtonia
12-05-2007, 17:29
Tolstoy's War and Peace is the first Russian text that springs to mind. As for French, you can't go wrong with Voltaire: Candide is one of the funniest books I've ever read.

Yeah, War and Peace is a real easy introduction - it's the Harry Potter of Russian literature.

While you're all at it, can anyone recommend some 15th century Icelandic text, some 3rd century B.C. Egyptian literature and some Etruscan comics if possible?
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
12-05-2007, 17:38
Tolstoy's War and Peace is the first Russian text that springs to mind. As for French, you can't go wrong with Voltaire: Candide is one of the funniest books I've ever read.

I should add: I've read Voltaire (Candide and On Policy) as well as Rousseau. For Russian I've read War and Peace and a lot of Fyodor Dostoevsky I'm wanting to go in a bit deeper now...
Orlzenheimerness
12-05-2007, 17:39
Just go for the obvious. Classics can do no wrong. Les Miserables by Victor Hugo.

Or if you really want to know good ones: Google...
Infinite Revolution
12-05-2007, 18:13
moliere is good for plays. my flatmate did her dissertation on him.
The Nazz
12-05-2007, 18:18
I was wondering if some of you amazingly intelligent people on NSG could either recommend some 17th/18th century French Literature or some late 19th century Russian Literature to me.

This is a little early for you, perhaps, but the poets of the Pleiade--du Bellay, Ronsard, for instance, and the Songs of the Troubadours are very good.
Forsakia
12-05-2007, 18:20
Just go for the obvious. Classics can do no wrong. Les Miserables by Victor Hugo.

Or if you really want to know good ones: Google...

19th Century though.


Ummm...I'm going to have to go with "no".
Yep, sounds like a good answer.
RLI Rides Again
12-05-2007, 18:52
Yeah, War and Peace is a real easy introduction - it's the Harry Potter of Russian literature.

Anyone asking for specific centuries of literature isn't likely to need an easy introduction...

While you're all at it, can anyone recommend some 15th century Icelandic text, some 3rd century B.C. Egyptian literature and some Etruscan comics if possible?

Yeah, but not on a PG-13 forum.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
14-05-2007, 02:52
No one? :(
Forsakia
14-05-2007, 02:54
No one? :(

This is NSG, unless knowledge is easily usable for showing off it's neglected.
Fleckenstein
14-05-2007, 02:55
The Death of Ivan Ilych.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
14-05-2007, 02:56
This is NSG, unless knowledge is easily usable for showing off it's neglected.

Does this not qualify as showing off?
Neo Kervoskia
14-05-2007, 03:01
Does this not qualify as showing off?

If you were a popular poster people would give a shit and it'd be an internet circle jerk.
Insert Quip Here
14-05-2007, 03:01
Notes From the Underground, Dostoyevsky
Andaras Prime
14-05-2007, 03:03
I read about 50 pages of Tolstoy and decided it would make good use as a door stop. I have since completed it and it's one of my favorite novels, so the lesson is, stick with it.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
14-05-2007, 03:04
Notes From the Underground, Dostoyevsky

I should add: I've read Voltaire (Candide and On Policy) as well as Rousseau. For Russian I've read War and Peace and a lot of Fyodor Dostoevsky I'm wanting to go in a bit deeper now...

Sorry I'll add that to the OP.
The_pantless_hero
14-05-2007, 03:07
I was wondering if some of you amazingly intelligent people on NSG could either recommend some 17th/18th century French Literature or some late 19th century Russian Literature to me.
I should add: I've read Voltaire (Candide and On Policy) as well as some Rousseau. For Russian I've read War and Peace and a lot of Fyodor Dostoevsky I want to go in a bit deeper now...

Close enough? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_with_the_Newts
Andaras Prime
14-05-2007, 03:10
meh, enlightenment literature are basically rewrites of concepts the Greek philosophers thought up over a thousand years before.
Forsakia
14-05-2007, 03:15
Does this not qualify as showing off?

Too obscure to be easy. Easier to beat people round the head with Marx etc.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
14-05-2007, 03:59
Close enough? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_with_the_Newts


Sounds like an interesting begining. Thank you.
Taredas
14-05-2007, 04:20
For Russian, there's the other well-known Tolstoy work (Anna Karenina). If you're willing to expand the time frame a bit, Dr. Zhivago and We could also be good choices.

French? Moliere would do nicely, as would the obvious suspects (Les Miserables, Madame Bovary).
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
14-05-2007, 04:25
Thank you.
Bodies Without Organs
14-05-2007, 04:42
No one? :(

Pretty much any and all Turgenev and Gogol is worth a look. Avoid their juvenalia and their descriptive prose poems/sketches though as they aren't that rewarding.
New Manvir
14-05-2007, 04:52
The Da Vinci Code
Bodies Without Organs
14-05-2007, 04:53
The Da Vinci Code

I assume this is a joke, yes?
Widfarend
14-05-2007, 05:06
I was wondering if some of you amazingly intelligent people on NSG could either recommend some 17th/18th century French Literature or some late 19th century Russian Literature to me.


Argg.. and I was thinking about..no..:(
Barringtonia
14-05-2007, 05:30
Forget Russian and French, especially since it seems you've read the best of them anyway - head to Germany, specifically this man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Mann)and this book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddenbrooks)

You should also read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotte_in_Weimar:_The_Beloved_Returns)and this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magic_Mountain).

Not sure where you're from but if you're reading in English then try find the John E. Woods translations
Bodies Without Organs
14-05-2007, 13:58
Forget Russian and French, especially since it seems you've read the best of them anyway - head to Germany, specifically this man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Mann)and this book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddenbrooks)

Thomas Mann was no Herman Hesse.
Barringtonia
14-05-2007, 15:54
Thomas Mann was no Herman Hesse.

...ahhh, but they were good friends - may they be viewed equally :)
Soviestan
14-05-2007, 15:55
I was wondering if some of you amazingly intelligent people on NSG could either recommend some 17th/18th century French Literature or some late 19th century Russian Literature to me.
I should add: I've read Voltaire (Candide and On Policy) as well as some Rousseau. For Russian I've read War and Peace and a lot of Fyodor Dostoevsky I want to go in a bit deeper now...

"The hunt for red october". Good book, and it has Russians in it which is what you wanted.
Rameria
14-05-2007, 16:07
Can't help with the Russian, but I think these all fall in the time period you want for the French literature:

-Le cid, by Corneille.
-La princesse de Clèves, published anonymously (but held to be by Madame de la Fayette).
-Andromaque, by Racine.
-Almost anything by Molière (I'm fond of Les femmes savantes, myself).
-Lettres persanes, by Montesquieu.
-La Folle journée ou le Mariage de Figaro, by Beaumarchais.
-Manon Lescaut, by Prévost.
Saxnot
14-05-2007, 16:25
I was wondering if some of you ... could either recommend some 17th/18th century French Literature or some late 19th century Russian Literature to me.

On the Russian side of things, I'd say Fathers & Sons by Turgenev, A Hero of Our Time by Mikhail Lermontov, Dead Souls by Gogol, or maybe The Death of Ivan Illyich, among others.
Jello Biafra
14-05-2007, 16:42
How about The Hunchback of Notre Dame or The Three Musketeers?
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
15-05-2007, 00:32
thank you for giving me a good list encompassing literature that I was actually asking for, Rameria and Saxnot.
Ginnoria
15-05-2007, 00:42
I don't recommend Crime and Punishment. Writing it was the crime, and reading it is the punishment.