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"life is short get a divorce" Lawyers suggestively recommends with pictures of cleavage, in a new billboard situated near "Viagra Triangle," a bustling, upwardly-mobile area of downtown known as a place men can pick up women.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_divorce_070507_ms.jpg

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Heh, another reason I love living in Chicago...

This was on the news here last night, and it's hilarious. Apparently it's ruffling a few feathers, making it all the more amusing.

ABC 7 was interviewing people in the streets, apparently one hated the billboard because it "promoted breaking the 7th Commandment."

I may be wrong, but I don't think #7 is adultery, I believe it's either theft or murder.

Link broken...damn.. must be the overload :D

thx BTW. *thumb up*

link is fixed.

thats funny!

what a desperate law firm it must be to put out such stupid ads.

link is fixed.

thats funny!

what a desperate law firm it must be to put out such stupid ads.

Actually her business is booming, and was before she put up the billboard.

"life is short get a divorce" Lawyers suggestively recommends with suggestive pictures of cleavage, in a new billboard situated near "Viagra Triangle," a bustling, upwardly-mobile area of downtown known as a place men can pick up women.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_divorce_070507_ms.jpg

I would assume that means "rich" men, given that if you're not talking "escorts", there must be an incentive for these women to allow themselves to be picked up by Viagra-snorting 50-something executives. What a country.

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Maybe it's high-traffic or something on my end. Apologies.

Interesting. Of course, life may be short, but child support is expensive.

Maybe it's high-traffic or something on my end. Apologies.no need to apologize.. you tried to help me.

Heh, another reason I love living in Chicago...

This was on the news here last night, and it's hilarious. Apparently it's ruffling a few feathers, making it all the more amusing.

ABC 7 was interviewing people in the streets, apparently one hated the billboard because it "promoted breaking the 7th Commandment."

I may be wrong, but I don't think #7 is adultery, I believe it's either theft or murder.

turns out that the 10 commandments arent the 10 commandments. they are about 19 commandments reduced to 10. how its reduced depends on your denomination. if you are protestant, adultury is #7; if you are catholic, its #6.

Actually her business is booming, and was before she put up the billboard.

i would never use a law firm that suggests that divorce is a great idea.

Interesting. Of course, life may be short, but child support is expensive.

You know, if the billboard next to it says "Kids are Expensive, get a Tubal ligation/Vasectomy"

I would litterly die laughing.

Life is short. Start Swinging!

i would never use a law firm that suggests that divorce is a great idea.

Do like I do--just don't get married again.

I like this one:

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/262/pic31322kk7.jpg

:)

I like this one:

-snip-

:)

Eh, me not so much.

Eh, me not so much.

Aw. Why not?

Do like I do--just don't get married again.

im pretty sure that this is the only time ill ever be married. im not looking to get out but i cant see a reason why i would ever do it again.

its the sleazy suggestion that an older (presumably sexually challenged) man can have a much better life if he dumps his current wife and takes up with the younger women on offer in the neighborhood.

sometimes divorce is necessary but you seldom walk out of marriage and into a sexual paradise. you lose at least half of everything you own, your kids will hate you for choosing cheap sex over their mother, and after youve fucked a few whores, you have to set about rebuilding the life your wife used to manage.

im pretty sure that this is the only time ill ever be married. im not looking to get out but i cant see a reason why i would ever do it again.

its the sleazy suggestion that an older (presumably sexually challenged) man can have a much better life if he dumps his current wife and takes up with the younger women on offer in the neighborhood.

sometimes divorce is necessary but you seldom walk out of marriage and into a sexual paradise. you lose at least half of everything you own, your kids will hate you for choosing cheap sex over their mother, and after youve fucked a few whores, you have to set about rebuilding the life your wife used to manage.

I figure if a man is stupid enough and shallow enough to do that sort of thing, then he deserves all the misery that comes along with it.

Eh, me not so much.

Sorry about your car dude...

I figure if a man is stupid enough and shallow enough to do that sort of thing, then he deserves all the misery that comes along with it.

yeah he does. not that women are immune from thinking that prince charming is still waiting in the wings if she just dumps the man she has now.

Aw. Why not?

I've never been a big fan of Government involvement in marriage period, I mean why do the government need to know who I marry or divorce? However, on the subject of the picture, the fact is the "Family Courts" is a court slanted towards the women during the divorces preceding. Women are more likely to get the kids, they're more likely to get to determined how often dad gets to see the kids, and they're more likely to get the dad's toys (such as the sport car) and the house. What does the guy get, a child support payment, a crappy apartment, and a Ford Pinto. Men are more likely to be litterly cleaned out during divorces preceding. Which is why if I ever get married, my fiancee will sign a Pre-nup, if she doesn't then no wedding, no marriage.

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/262/pic31322kk7.jpg
Borat:Do this have a pussy magnet?

I've never been a big fan of Government involvement in marriage period, I mean why do the government need to know who I marry or divorce? However, on the subject of the picture, the fact is the "Family Courts" is a court slanted towards the women during the divorces preceding. Women are more likely to get the kids, they're more likely to get to determined how often dad gets to see the kids, and they're more likely to get the dad's toys (such as the sport car) and the house. What does the guy get, a child support payment, a crappy apartment, and a Ford Pinto. Men are more likely to be litterly cleaned out during divorces preceding. Which is why if I ever get married, my fiancee will sign a Pre-nup, if she doesn't then no wedding, no marriage.

Funny--when I got divorced, my ex and I worked all this shit out ahead of time, and continued to modify the agreement afterward. As a result, we split the bills we had pretty evenly, we agreed on an amount of child support we both thought was fair, she never got in my way when it came to visitation, and in fact, gave me domiciliary custody for four of the last eight years. Why?

Because we put the kids first and neither of us was out to screw the other. In short, we were fucking adults. We have courts because too many adults can't seem to remember that they're the grownups and are trying to either hurt or pay back the other partner.

when I got divorced, my ex and I ...

... we split the bills we had pretty evenly, we agreed on an amount of child support we both thought was fair, she never got in my way when it came to visitation, and in fact, gave me domiciliary custody for four of the last eight years.

.. we put the kids first and neither of us was out to screw the other...you and your ex are very decent..

unfortunately the first thing to go on a divorce.. is decency.

That is why I dont see myself ever getting to "legalize"(marriage) any union I may desire in the future.

you and your ex are very decent..

unfortunately the first thing to go on a divorce.. is decency.

That is why I dont see myself ever getting to "legalize"(marriage) any union I may desire in the future.

Yea, but you know that when you meet that special person, she'll most likely be wanting a big grand marriage.

If I ever get married, the government will NOT be involved in it.

Funny--when I got divorced, my ex and I worked all this shit out ahead of time, and continued to modify the agreement afterward. As a result, we split the bills we had pretty evenly, we agreed on an amount of child support we both thought was fair, she never got in my way when it came to visitation, and in fact, gave me domiciliary custody for four of the last eight years. Why?

Because we put the kids first and neither of us was out to screw the other. In short, we were fucking adults. We have courts because too many adults can't seem to remember that they're the grownups and are trying to either hurt or pay back the other partner.

Well I'm glad you and your ex were mature about this, and I applaud you both, but not everyone is as mature as you two were. I saw many good, decent, and honest men get screwed over in divorce courts by their exs.

you and your ex are very decent..

unfortunately the first thing to go on a divorce.. is decency.

That is why I dont see myself ever getting to "legalize"(marriage) any union I may desire in the future.

Neither my ex or I are extraordinary. By the time we decided on a divorce, I think we were both relieved to get it over with; we knew the marriage had been a mistake from the beginning. The problem in too many divorces is that one partner feels hurt--probably because of infidelity--and decides that the divorce is the best way to take out some revenge on the other's ass. And that's where a lot of these "the family court is out to destroy me" stories come from.

A guy wants out, but he doesn't realize what it's going to cost to do that. Child support is high because kids are expensive, and in the US, women still make less than men do. It's as though the men complaining here want it both ways--they want to maintain their dominant position in society but when it comes to ending a marriage, they don't want to pay the costs.

It wasn't easy for me a lot of those years to make those child support payments. When I was an undergrad, I was working two and three jobs to pay my own bills while going to school, because over half my student loan money every term went to child support. Child support is part of the reason I'm staring six figures of student loans in the face--another part of it is that my daughter lived with me during grad school and I couldn't work those extra jobs, so I lived on that money in part. But I never took any frustration out on my ex or on my child--it's part of the price of making those choices.

"life is short get a divorce" Lawyers suggestively recommends with pictures of cleavage, in a new billboard situated near "Viagra Triangle," a bustling, upwardly-mobile area of downtown known as a place men can pick up women.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_divorce_070507_ms.jpg

That is sickening and evil.

In a moralistic fascist nation none of the dangerous crap we see today would happen and sex related crime would reach an all time low.

[joke]

Yet another thread that disgusts me falls to it's grave! :sniper:

*dances to celebrate killing the thread* :D

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You know, if the billboard next to it says "Kids are Expensive, get a Tubal ligation/Vasectomy"

I would litterly die laughing.

"Kids are expensive, condoms aren't."

Well I'm glad you and your ex were mature about this, and I applaud you both, but not everyone is as mature as you two were. I saw many good, decent, and honest men get screwed over in divorce courts by their exs.

Not everyone, but most people seem to be. The last statistics I saw on the subject suggested that, in most cases, things were split pretty evenly - even when courts were involved (which they often aren't - except at the final approval stage). In court cases involving child custody (as opposed to cases where an agreement was reached without the court), joint custody was the most likely outcome. In cases where one parent received custody, it was the mother about 60% of the time. I think Jocabia posted them last time this sort of discussion came up.

That is sickening and evil.

In a moralistic fascist nation none of the dangerous crap we see today would happen and sex related crime would reach an all time low.

In a moralistic fascist nation people would be too busy trying to survive Hell on Earth to think about sex.

That is sickening and evil.

In a moralistic fascist nation none of the dangerous crap we see today would happen and sex related crime would reach an all time low.

But in exchange for this, we get to keep more people alive.

In a moralistic fascist nation people would be too busy trying to survive Hell on Earth to think about sex.

I'm not fully sure he knows what a fascist state really entails.

I'm not fully sure he knows what a fascist state really entails.

I'm absolutely sure he doesn't. Which is why I felt obliged to inform him.

I'm absolutely sure he doesn't. Which is why I felt obliged to inform him.

with that poster? good luck with that...

I'm absolutely sure he doesn't. Which is why I felt obliged to inform him.

I know. It suppresses civil rights to better the state for one thing, as things should be. And the caring, loving government stamps out liars to make sure they don't fill citezen's mind's with poisonous words that'll encourage destructive activity against the state. If your part of a group you try to help the group not harm it right? Well I see nations as really large groups and everyone in it is obliged to benefit the group, all the gov does is make it happen. Pure justice.

In a moralistic fascist nation people would be too busy trying to survive Hell on Earth to think about sex.

Yes, which is why there'd be barely and sex related crimes at all and the crap we see today would be gone! Thanks for proving my point.

I know. It suppresses civil rights to better the state for one thing, as things should be.

riiiight, because the state, which exists as a mechanism to serve the people, should exist...at the expense of the people.

And the caring, loving government

Governments are never caring. Governments are never loving. Governments are managed by those who lead them, and leaders seek power.

Governments must thus be limited and restricted to prevent attempts to accumulate power.

"caring, loving governments" end up with Hitler. They end up with Stalin. They end up with Mussilini.

The "benevolent dictator" is a myth.

stamps out liars to make sure they don't fill citezen's mind's with poisonous words that'll encourage destructive activity against the state.

Which rapidly becomes "anything that disagrees with me".

If your part of a group you try to help the group not harm it right? Well I see nations as really large groups and everyone in it is obliged to benefit the group, all the gov does is make it happen. Pure justice.

And yet you fail to understand one crucial fact. I join groups for one reason and one reason only.

Self interest. I join the group because I gain something for being in it. I am benefited by being in it. If I received no benefit, I would not be a member. The group serves me, not the other way around. I am not obligated to help the government, the government is obligated to help me.

That is why we have them.

Yes, which is why there'd be barely and sex related crimes at all and the crap we see today would be gone! Thanks for proving my point.

and the fact that you see that as even remotely preferable is absolutly disgusting and renders you an immoral bastard.

and the fact that you see that as even remotely preferable is absolutly disgusting and renders you an immoral bastard.

So you think sexual perversion is more moral than law and order? YOUR THE DISGUSTING IMMORAL BASTARD!

And note that seeing people who see justice as unjust and injustice as just as yourself only feed the fire, and on op of that when they constantly piss me off like many do it feeds it further, if you want me to continue being a fascist then I beg you, go on. Not until the madness these sociopaths render on society halt will I stop being fascist. And not until you give up your corrupt ways and mental irregularities (such as finding pleasure out of bullying *cough cough*) will I find reason stop.

Governments are never caring. Governments are never loving. Governments are managed by those who lead them, and leaders seek power.

Governments must thus be limited and restricted to prevent attempts to accumulate power.

"caring, loving governments" end up with Hitler. They end up with Stalin. They end up with Mussilini.

The "benevolent dictator" is a myth.


And yet you fail to understand one crucial fact. I join groups for one reason and one reason only.

Self interest. I join the group because I gain something for being in it. I am benefited by being in it. If I received no benefit, I would not be a member. The group serves me, not the other way around. I am not obligated to help the government, the government is obligated to help me.

That is why we have them.

You fail to understand that in my ideal society the Government is made to benefit the state along with the civillians, what you stated is a sad fact about many governments but can be changed in a way that they help everyone in the nation. You help the government and it helps you creating a perfect society and strengthening national brotherhood.

So you think sexual perversion is more moral than law and order? YOUR THE DISGUSTING IMMORAL BASTARD!

Fascist states do not in any way resemble law and order in the slightest.

Not one little god damned bit. If you actually knew anything about the history of fascist nations you'd understand that.

if you want me to continue being a fascist then I beg you, go on.

I don't really care what you are. It's entirely your choice. I would however suggest actually doing research on the topic you proport to espouse.

Not until the madness these sociopaths render on society halt will I stop being fascist.

Or you can do what most people do who at one point had your views. Mature.

You fail to understand that in my ideal society the Government is made to benefit the state along with the civillians.
No. Your ideal society is a government that benefits the state at the expense of the civilians.

Stripping civil liberties such as freedom of speech, religion, politics, expression, and sexuality never, NEVER benefits the people.

The fact that you don't grasp this shows a serious and fundamental disconnect between yourself and political and historical reality.

I figure if a man is stupid enough and shallow enough to do that sort of thing, then he deserves all the misery that comes along with it.

I second that.

Fascist states do not in any way resemble law and order in the slightest.

Not one little god damned bit. If you actually knew anything about the history of fascist nations you'd understand that.



I don't really care what you are. It's entirely your choice. I would however suggest actually doing research on the topic you proport to espouse.



Or you can do what most people do who at one point had your views. Mature.

1) Just modify the fascist gov a bit and soon crime becomes non-existant, and if the leader is moralistic and cares about the nation and it's people (as every leader should) then soon the living standard rises and the place become safer, it only became unsafe once war broke out.

2) I have and continue to research and theorize how to make fascism an ideal ideology which would benefit people without as many nasty smeg ups as previous fascist nations like Germany and Italy being bombed or racism which lead to defeat later on. (Japan and Germany were racist against each other and so Japan bombed Pearl Harbor without consulting their allies who didn't expect this causing America to join and help beat all three of the axis nations)

3) For the moment it seems like the most just system if it was modified with the love for the common man, and hatred to criminals.

1) Just modify the fascist gov a bit and soon crime becomes non-existant, and if the leader is moralistic and cares about the nation and it's people (as every leader should) then soon the living standard rises and the place become safer, it only became unsafe once war broke out.

Which will never, ever, ever, EVER happen. A fascist society WILL collapse into totalitarianism within the first generation.

Every. Single. Time.

As I said, the idea of a benevolent dictator is a myth. You might get one good leader, maybe two. Eventually however the entire structure will collapse.

All of human history, ALL OF IT, can be described as attempts to move directly AWAY from what you describe.

There's a reason.

For the moment it seems like the most just system if it was modified with the love for the common man, and hatred to criminals

hatred of anyone is not just, it is not right, it is not noble. It is not even really fascism. It is sociopathology. Which is what you want in the end, a state molded to cater to the rants and raves of your antisocial personality disorder. And that is exactly what it would do. Except it might not be your dillusions that end up in power.

No. Your ideal society is a government that benefits the state at the expense of the civilians.

Stripping civil liberties such as freedom of speech, religion, politics, expression, and sexuality never, NEVER benefits the people.

The fact that you don't grasp this shows a serious and fundamental disconnect between yourself and political and historical reality.

Civil rights allow people to harm/grief:

Themselves
others
the state
the environment
society

Stripping civil rights would stop things like WBC picketings, obliterate violent cults, kill off sociopaths and criminals who inisist on hurting those who fall in any of the catagories above.

Lets face it, civil rights do harm, people even have the right to cause STD epidemics! Take civil rights away and it'll benefit the people, civil rights are like sweets and the majority of people are like children when it comes to rights, they want more than is good for them. Would ou rather have a civillian populace of brats or one of altruistic and disciplined individuals who are willing to do good for their society?

Civil rights allow people to harm/grief:

...

Lets face it, civil rights do harm, ....Take civil rights away and it'll benefit the people, civil rights are like sweets and the majority of people are like children when it comes to rights, they want more than is good for them.

Oh...my....fucking....god.

You are beyond hope.

I get it now. I thought you were well meaning but misguided. It's not that. It's not that at all.

Your whole idea about civil rights causing "grief"...you got teased the shit out of, didn't you?

Which will never, ever, ever, EVER happen. A fascist society WILL collapse into totalitarianism within the first generation.

Every. Single. Time.

As I said, the idea of a benevolent dictator is a myth. You might get one good leader, maybe two. Eventually however the entire structure will collapse.

All of human history, ALL OF IT, can be described as attempts to move directly AWAY from what you describe.

There's a reason.



hatred of anyone is not just, it is not right, it is not noble. It is not even really fascism. It is sociopathology. Which is what you want in the end, a state molded to cater to the rants and raves of your antisocial personality disorder. And that is exactly what it would do. Except it might not be your dillusions that end up in power.

Hating criminals is the exact opposite of sociopathology, allowing people to do anything they want even if it obviously crosses the line is sociopathology, allowing and even condoning sexual corruption which harms humanity biologically as well as *ahem* SOCIALLY is sociopathology, siding with the criminals like you are doing now is sociopathology. So how are my ideas on protecting society from people bend on destroying it anti-social?

BTW I know what your trying to pull, your trying to make me look like the things I obviously hate the most to try to cause me to suffer, you've done this many times. You always want me to suffer one way or another it seems and tried using the forums to meet you masturbatory goals either by saying I'm something I hate or by outright flaming me.

Oh...my....fucking....god.

You are beyond hope.

I get it now. I thought you were well meaning but misguided. It's not that. It's not that at all.

Your whole idea about civil rights causing "grief"...you got teased the shit out of, didn't you?

Source?

In a moralistic fascist nation none of the dangerous crap we see today would happen and sex related crime would reach an all time low.
Not at all--more likely is that the sex-related crime would be committed by the people in power and there would be no recourse for the victims. Remember--sex crimes are generally crimes of power, not passion. What greater expression of power would there be from a "moralistic" government than to rape a person to teach him/her a lesson? Keep your faux morality to yourself, please.

"life is short get a divorce" Lawyers suggestively recommends with pictures of cleavage, in a new billboard situated near "Viagra Triangle," a bustling, upwardly-mobile area of downtown known as a place men can pick up women.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_divorce_070507_ms.jpg

When I see capitalists or other sick bastards who'd do this for some reason, people who'd attack the idea of love and marriage for money or whatever (it'll obviously make spousal abuse rise and cause problems in society) it makes me look to a system where I know justice can be enforced and these worms can't wriggle around to try to do harm again.

Hating criminals is the exact opposite of sociopathology, allowing people to do anything they want even if it obviously crosses the line is sociopathology, allowing and even condoning sexual corruption which harms humanity biologically as well as *ahem* SOCIALLY is sociopathology, siding with the criminals like you are doing now is sociopathology. So how are my ideas on protecting society from people bend on destroying it anti-social?

Because you don't want truly dangerous people to be held out of society.

You want to punish, torture, and kill the people that made you cry yourself to sleep after school.

That's all this is, that's all you are. That's your whole raison d'etre. You get off on the idea of people suffering who were mean to you.

Source?

here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/member.php?u=1040317). The contents therein should sufficiently back up my point.

When I see capitalists or other sick bastards who'd do this for some reason, people who'd attack the idea of love and marriage for money or whatever (it'll obviously make spousal abuse rise and cause problems in society) it makes me look to a system where I know justice can be enforced and these worms can't wriggle around to try to do harm again.

because those immoral fucks should be made to stay with people they don't want to stay with, growing resentful, increasing affairs, and making life miserable for both of them.

For the good of society!

God, you're worse than those fundies, at least they have an invisible man to try and back up their claims....

Because you don't want truly dangerous people to be held out of society.

You want to punish, torture, and kill the people that made you cry yourself to sleep after school.

That's all this is, that's all you are. That's your whole raison d'etre. You get off on the idea of people suffering who were mean to you.

Source?

Have you no righteous anger? Sociopaths are attacking the good human quality of love, tradition (the good ones), hope found in some peaceful religions, altruism and do-gooders.

It is for this reason I think their destruction is justified. I pondered this when I began forming this mindset, it occured to me that these kinds of people cannot be reasoned with, the further thought occured that the law was designed to stop these kinds of people with force, it further occured to me that other sociopaths used their whiny tactics to prevent law enforcement from doing it's job, I then learned thought of those victimized by criminals who escaped and remembered all those articles about criminals who came out either through paroll or escaped and they committed the crimes again, it then occurred to me that they will jsut keep doing the same thing over again and again and they'd only get a slap on the wrist each time, then I thought about the resources wasted on keeping them alive even though the resources could be given to the hard working citezens who put into society rather than wasted on those who jsut do harm. I theorized that the most efficient way of dealing with the mis execution, that way no food and water are wasted and less money would be wasted (they'd be executed in the cheapest way possible) secondly dead people can't commit crimes against society again. Besides we dispose of dirt in order to maintain cleanliness not move the dirt from place to place, criminals and sociopaths are the dirt of society and all we're doing is moving them around as it piles up, instead of wiping them out.

Thats why I think executing certain people who insist on doing wrong id better. That way the fruits of good peoples' labor aren't wasted on those who seek to harm good citezens.

Source?

Every word you've spoken on the subject

Have you no righteous anger?

I believe in justice. Which is why your system is disgusting.

My righteous anger is directed at people like you that would strip MY rights to satisfy YOUR purile and violent desires.

because those immoral fucks should be made to stay with people they don't want to stay with, growing resentful, increasing affairs, and making life miserable for both of them.

For the good of society!

God, you're worse than those fundies, at least they have an invisible man to try and back up their claims....

Your logic is stupid, it's like having a rabid beast be forced to stay with the humans it hates as punishment which'll allow it to harm people some more, so what happens when the beast lashes out some more and some more?(which is the reason it'd being punished in the first place)

Your idea of punishment is letting/making it commit more atrocities.

Your logic is stupid, it's like having a rabid beast be forced to stay with the humans it hates as punishment

Um, hi, that was sarcasm.

Every word you've spoken on the subject



I believe in justice. Which is why your system is disgusting.

My righteous anger is directed at people like you that would strip MY rights to satisfy YOUR purile and violent desires.

Your selfish, you like the idea of keeping bad people alive and wasting resources that are quickly running out so we'd have to waste more not only to keep them alive but to repair the damages they've done?

because those immoral fucks should be made to stay with people they don't want to stay with, growing resentful, increasing affairs, and making life miserable for both of them.

For the good of society!

God, you're worse than those fundies, at least they have an invisible man to try and back up their claims....

Wait, I said to remove the immoral fucks completely so the others won't suffer. Your implying that I said I want both to be forced to stay with each other and cause more damage.Your twisting my words again. *tsk tsk* It's so blatant when you try to twist my words.

Um, hi, that was sarcasm.

Proof that you meant to twist my words.

Your selfish, you like the idea of keeping bad people alive

I suggest you focus on the "self" part of selfishness. Wanting to keep OTHER people alive is not the definition of selfishness.

and wasting resources that are quickly running out so we'd have to waste more not only to keep them alive but to repair the damages they've done?

As opposed to killing someone who dropped some trash on the street?

Yes, I prefer that. The question is why you don't.

Wait, I said to remove the immoral fucks completely so the others won't suffer.

That man stuck his penis in a woman that was not his wife. Execute him.

And execute that immoral slut that he had sex with, for tempting him.

And while we're at it, execute the wife for being such an obnoxious **** that she drove him away!

For the good of society!

I suggest you focus on the "self" part of selfishness. Wanting to keep OTHER people alive is not the definition of selfishness.



As opposed to killing someone who dropped some trash on the street?

Yes, I prefer that. The question is why you don't.

1) You seem to have the "it's not in my backyard" mindset where your ok with things as long as they don't effect you negatively, your selfish in that you can handle yourself and protect yourself from these shits however you do not want the protection of other citezens

2) The way it works is, lawbreakers get punished, the case you said would probably not be death (depends on circumstances like how polluted the earth is and how much legal protection it has) but he would need to have something he doesn't like and everyone else would have to hope it doesn't happen to him that way no one breaks that rule. Thats why there are laws and law enforcement, to limit what we do and to make us not want to break them.

1) You seem to have the "it's not in my backyard" mindset where your ok with things as long as they don't effect you negatively, your selfish in that you can handle yourself and protect yourself from these shits however you do not want the protection of other citezens

What part of "civil rights are the most important protections we have" doesn't get through to you?

What part of "civil rights are the most important protections we have" doesn't get through to you?

Thast as dumb as saying emos cut their wrists for protection. :rolleyes:

Civil rights as I stated earlier encourage self destruction and harm to others. It allows the kind of smeg mentioned in the first post in this thread.

Thast as dumb as saying emos cut their wrists for protection. :rolleyes:

Civil rights as I stated earlier encourage self destruction and harm to others. It allows the kind of smeg mentioned in the first post in this thread.

Beyond hope.

Totally, absolutly, beyond all fucking hope.

Beyond hope.

Totally, absolutly, beyond all fucking hope.

BTW, yo0ur taking some of the stuff I said seriously aren't you LOL! Some of it was meant to piss you off because I know you are only here to piss me off and attack me AS USUAL. I'm in reality only border-line fascist (meritocratic).

You actually thought I was a wannabe gestapo didn't you?! LOL!

GOT YOU!

Now go smeg off before I do my American teacher impersonation. :p (which is far more mind melting, onionish, and preferably annoying)

BTW, yo0ur taking some of the stuff I said seriously aren't you LOL! Some of it was meant to piss you off because I know you are only here to piss me off and attack me AS USUAL. I'm in reality only border-line fascist (meritocratic).

Oh, so you're trolling? gotcha

You actually thought I was a wannabe gestapo didn't you?!

That is because you are. This is not the first time you've said shit like this, and it is in fact entirely consistant with everything you've said.

Now go smeg off before I do my American teacher impersonation. :p

Excuse me? Exactly who the hell do you think you are?

Oh, so you're trolling? gotcha



That is because you are. This is not the first time you've said shit like this, and it is in fact entirely consistant with everything you've said.



Excuse me? Exactly who the hell do you think you are?

1) no, your trolling, I'm acting defensibly in hopes that we can end this without going further. I dunno about you but a) your the agressor, you don't need to "correct" me, especaiily in an unlawful manner b) I want this to end as simply as possible and I would think you do to, lets say we're even in taht I successfully gave you a taste of your own medicine and this time END IT ALREADY!

2) Remember when I said I was studying fascism, I'm studying it right now in history and after learning that their endorse brainwash I found that I am only borderline and more meritocratic.

3) analogically speaking your the guy who keeps poking the angry porcupine, I'm readying my quills of impression skills against you. BEWARE! :p

Rofl. That's a nice set of #$#&

1) no, your trolling, I'm acting defensibly in hopes that we can end this without going further. I dunno about you but a) your the agressor, you don't need to "correct" me,

I know this is hard to get, as you haven't grasped it yet, but you are ON A DEBATE FORUM. This is a place for ideas to be debated. You put your ideas in public you run the risk of them getting criticised.

especaiily in an unlawful manner b) I want this to end as simply as possible and I would think you do to, lets say we're even in taht I successfully gave you a taste of your own medicine and this time END IT ALREADY!

A taste of my own medicine? Because you went prancing around like the little sociopathic fascist like you are? Nothing you said was an untruth. Nothing you said was a falsehood.

you believe every single thing you said here. You've said it before. You believe every single word of it.

So drop the act, you are every bit as reprehensible as you try to act like you pretended to be.

2) Remember when I said I was studying fascism, I'm studying it right now in history and after learning that their endorse brainwash I found that I am only borderline and more meritocratic.

Not in the slightest.

3) analogically speaking your the guy who keeps poking the angry porcupine, I'm readying my quills of impression skills against you. BEWARE! :p

That is a little bit sad....

but frankly speaking it's not worth my time arguing with a mini stalin that is beyond hope of redemption.

1) As stated in the post you quoted, you don't need to "correct me" and also as stated in your very own post This is a place for ideas to be debated. Debates are usually civilized and personal attacks are minimal or nonexistent. You are a troll not a debater.

2) Sociopathic? I want the benefit of others be removing threats to them, you want to feed the threats and supply them so they can go down town and rape little girls and kill the nice lady Mrs. Jane to fit their selfish desires. Secondly people evolve, I may have been an Asian version of a nazi whose hatred was aimed towards Baptists instead of Jews but not now, and as I said I posted some stuff which I know 100% true fascists (not border-line) would beleive to piss you off for pissing me off. I don't beleive every word of it and just because I posted it before doesn't prove anything, our enmity has lasted for quite a while now and even before that It could have been before my transformation from full fascist to borderline (meritocrat)

3) The scroll function, look into it. ;)

4) C'mon scroll already! Don't be tardy. *waits* *pulls out card and reads it in monotone voice* By not learning how to use scroll and debate properly you disrupted class, you need to now go to the office. :p

That is sickening and evil.

In a moralistic fascist nation none of the dangerous crap we see today would happen and sex related crime would reach an all time low.

Moralistic fascist is an oxymoron.
Ahem, now about that add: it revolts the heck outta me. The lawyers are ruining this nation. I may sound extreme in this regard, but I believe that this sign should be outlawed. I understand the freedom of speech concern, but this isn't a bumper-sticker. It's big law-firm sign that promotes selfish divorce. The divorce rate is already too high as it is.
Off-topic, remember that sign for a music-system that promoted teens to play it loud past curfew? And then a guy protests and the company leaves it there. Then the guy plays it loud near the CEO's house after dark, and the sign comes down? That was freakin' hilarous! :p

1) Just modify the fascist gov a bit and soon crime becomes non-existant, and if the leader is moralistic and cares about the nation and it's people (as every leader should) then soon the living standard rises and the place become safer, it only became unsafe once war broke out.

A moralistic leader cannot run a fascist nation. If you are refering to a Benevolent Dictatorship, then I agree. However, a Benevolent Dictatorship rarely happens, and if one agaisnt all-odds is established, sooner or later you're going to get a Hitler running everything. Therefor, the next best goverment is a Libertarian one. Some Thomas Jefferson quotes: "Democracy is nothing more then mob-rule where 51% of the populance can take-away the rights of the other 49." "The goverment's best that governs least."
So basically we have the option of one selfish idiot running everything, or a multitude of selfish idiots running everything.

Civil rights allow people to harm/grief:

Themselves
others
the state
the environment
society

Stripping civil rights would stop things like WBC picketings, obliterate violent cults, kill off sociopaths and criminals who inisist on hurting those who fall in any of the catagories above.

Lets face it, civil rights do harm, people even have the right to cause STD epidemics! Take civil rights away and it'll benefit the people, civil rights are like sweets and the majority of people are like children when it comes to rights, they want more than is good for them. Would ou rather have a civillian populace of brats or one of altruistic and disciplined individuals who are willing to do good for their society?

I'm about to make an historical quote, gather around everyone: "If Hell had civil-rights, and Heaven did not, then I would glady choose Hell."

life is too short for everything not to be a hobby and everyone not free to perue it.

in cameroi everything is, and even our infrastructure, which is our collective pride and joy as a nation is run by volunteers. coordinated and directed by the most experienced among them, but volunteers none the less.

as for that mater, is everything else, under a modified form of potlatching, where no one starves, or is homeless, and may accumulate their own tools, or borrow the use of public ones, and build their own shelters, or live in public ones, as they see fit, and no one is misslead into persuing gratification where there is none to be found, such as trying to impress each other, or very little, as in the pseudo-sophistries of excitement addiction.

if children were not repressed (in your mundane, insanity dominated world of earth) from persuing their sexual fantasies, by laws far more abusive then anything their proponents are so arbitrarily and self ritiously claiming, even immagining themselves to prevent, there would not be these absurd and ever so exploitable obsessions in the first place. (which life is just as much too short for as well).

in cameroi we lower furtility not raise it, and libido gets along just fine on its own, as well or not as it has any need to.

nothing like a "free country" to make slavery universal; and no idiology is any less of a lying excuse for doing so then any other.

=^^=
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Thats deplorable.

turns out that the 10 commandments arent the 10 commandments. they are about 19 commandments reduced to 10. how its reduced depends on your denomination. if you are protestant, adultury is #7; if you are catholic, its #6.Reminds me of this mel brooks clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CB1ruv1n8U

"life is short get a divorce" Lawyers suggestively recommends with pictures of cleavage, in a new billboard situated near "Viagra Triangle," a bustling, upwardly-mobile area of downtown known as a place men can pick up women.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_divorce_070507_ms.jpg

Classy.

Your logic is stupid, it's like having a rabid beast be forced to stay with the humans it hates as punishment which'll allow it to harm people some more, so what happens when the beast lashes out some more and some more?(which is the reason it'd being punished in the first place)

Your idea of punishment is letting/making it commit more atrocities.
I'm having a bit of trouble following this discussion, but it seems like you just argued that people who want to get divorced are like rabid beasts, who should be forced to stay together lest they "lash out" at other human beings.

Is that what you're saying?

Because...wow. I'm guessing that you, personally, won't volunteer to be chained to a rabid beast (for the good of society!) for the remainder of your lifetime.

I give you a 3/10 on trolling. Some good content, but poorly expressed and only just barely believable. Though you do get a 10/10 on arrogance!

snips

Okay, first of all I want to point out that not all people that were bullied in school are like our little fascist here. I, for instance, am a pacifist that doesn't come anywhere close to this kind of ideology.

Second of all, the state is not perfect. I'm sure you'd love to - as an innocent person in this scenario - be accused of something without your rights to protect you, and then be killed. For the good of society.

Not.

Third of all, YOU were trolling. You claimed your opponent supports rape. You claimed your opponent wants to "supply threats".

And I'll report you. Having been bullied at school should teach you not to bully others, as opposed to making you want to do so from the safety of an Internet screen. Congratulations. You just took your revenge on everyone that's ever bullied you. By joining them.

Okay, first of all I want to point out that not all people that were bullied in school are like our little fascist here. I, for instance, am a pacifist that doesn't come anywhere close to this kind of ideology.
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Having been bullied at school should teach you not to bully others, as opposed to making you want to do so from the safety of an Internet screen. Congratulations. You just took your revenge on everyone that's ever bullied you. By joining them.Interesting subject..

I find myself wondering what would be the appropriate answer.. from a small kid bullied by a bigger one at high school.

Interesting subject..

I find myself wondering what would be the appropriate answer.. from a small kid bullied by a bigger one at high school.

In my time, there was no way out. But most of us do NOT turn out like SL.

A moralistic leader cannot run a fascist nation. If you are refering to a Benevolent Dictatorship, then I agree. However, a Benevolent Dictatorship rarely happens, and if one agaisnt all-odds is established, sooner or later you're going to get a Hitler running everything. Therefor, the next best goverment is a Libertarian one. Some Thomas Jefferson quotes: "Democracy is nothing more then mob-rule where 51% of the populance can take-away the rights of the other 49." "The goverment's best that governs least."
So basically we have the option of one selfish idiot running everything, or a multitude of selfish idiots running everything.

Thats the kind of dictatorship I find ideal, a benevolent one. Besides democracy always ends in dictatorship anyway from the way I see it because the popular party always gets the majority it of course gets powers, if it is voted in multiple times its power builds and pretty soon it starts trying to stay in power illegally, sometimes its subtle like in the US or blatant like in Italy and nazi Germany.

Okay, first of all I want to point out that not all people that were bullied in school are like our little fascist here. I, for instance, am a pacifist that doesn't come anywhere close to this kind of ideology.

Second of all, the state is not perfect. I'm sure you'd love to - as an innocent person in this scenario - be accused of something without your rights to protect you, and then be killed. For the good of society.

Not.

Third of all, YOU were trolling. You claimed your opponent supports rape. You claimed your opponent wants to "supply threats".

And I'll report you. Having been bullied at school should teach you not to bully others, as opposed to making you want to do so from the safety of an Internet screen. Congratulations. You just took your revenge on everyone that's ever bullied you. By joining them.

But he has. He's calling my prevention for those things evil, and going to that extreme makes it clear he's supporting it. Besides I'm only defending myself, I post minding my own business and this git always shows up twisting my words, falsely accusing me and trolling and flamebaiting me. How can I be at the wrong for defending myself? I bet if any one of you were in my situation you'd do the exact same thing.

"life is short get a divorce" Lawyers suggestively recommends with pictures of cleavage, in a new billboard situated near "Viagra Triangle," a bustling, upwardly-mobile area of downtown known as a place men can pick up women.

Brilliant.

because those immoral fucks should be made to stay with people they don't want to stay with, growing resentful, increasing affairs, and making life miserable for both of them.

For the good of society!

God, you're worse than those fundies, at least they have an invisible man to try and back up their claims....

Its not divorce which is the issue, its encouraging immorality, these people are encouraging selfish divorce, this'll make men and women disregard each other and see each other as instruments of pleasure rather than people lowering the respect people have for spouses and the opposite sex encouraging sex and spousal related crimes and abuse, eros love (love between spouses) will cease to exist as people marry and divorce nonstop. Lives will be ruined as people leech off each other more, children will grow up cooked as parents trade spouses more than Yugioh players swap cards. As people have less values they'll go into a state of apathy since the good human quality of eros love is completely eradicated. The less values people have the more capable of doing anything they become, doesn't that scare you people? This advertisement of self destruction and evil must be stopped.

It's really barratry. The lawyer in question should be disbarred or censured for it.

It's really barratry. The lawyer in question should be disbarred or censured for it.

there's really nothing in the MRPC that would prohibit there....

there's really nothing in the MRPC that would prohibit there....

It's not seeking a remedy though, is it? So therefore bad.

It's not seeking a remedy though, is it? So therefore bad.

um....what?

um....what?

It's soliciting lawsuits on the basis of a desirable outcome, not a specific need. As I said, barratry. I'm sure no-one cares about it anymore, but this was the original objection to allowing lawyers to advertise.

It's soliciting lawsuits on the basis of a desirable outcome, not a specific need. As I said, barratry. I'm sure no-one cares about it anymore, but this was the original objection to allowing lawyers to advertise.

well barratry is, if I recall correctly, more specifically the act or practice of bringing repeated legal actions solely to harass

well barratry is, if I recall correctly, more specifically the act or practice of bringing repeated legal actions solely to harass

Try that on if you want. It's also ginning up lawsuits for the sake of profit. I'm sure you won't take my advice about it, but call your local bar association's ethics line and ask them what they think about you telling your neighbor he could do 'better' if only he got a divorce with you.

I have no doubt they would say no.

Try that on if you want. It's also ginning up lawsuits for the sake of profit. I'm sure you won't take my advice about it, but call your local bar association's ethics line and ask them what they think about you telling your neighbor he could do 'better' if only he got a divorce with you.

I have no doubt they would say no.

it's...hazy. There's nothing ethically wrong with advertising, and, to a point, isn't ALL advertising effectively saying "hey, you would rather have our product/service than not"?

it's...hazy. There's nothing ethically wrong with advertising, and, to a point, isn't ALL advertising effectively saying "hey, you would rather have our product/service than not"?

Well look. It's one thing to say: "You've been injured. Now you need compensation for that injury and without legal representation you won't get what you deserve! Call Dewey Cheetem, & Howe."

It's another to say "Short of money? Many accident victims receive large cash payments, go out and have an accident, then call Dewey Cheetem, & Howe."

I agree, it's a fine line. Which is why advertising used to be completely prohibited. Nevertheless this divorce advert crosses it in my opinion. Moreover, I think they believe they are going to get more latitude because this was traditionally more of a problem with ambulance chasers rather than family law lawyers.

That said, I am not an Illinois lawyer, so it's up to them, I guess. I still say it is barratry though.

Its not divorce which is the issue, its encouraging immorality, these people are encouraging selfish divorce, this'll make men and women disregard each other and see each other as instruments of pleasure rather than people lowering the respect people have for spouses and the opposite sex encouraging sex and spousal related crimes and abuse, eros love (love between spouses) will cease to exist as people marry and divorce nonstop. Lives will be ruined as people leech off each other more, children will grow up cooked as parents trade spouses more than Yugioh players swap cards. As people have less values they'll go into a state of apathy since the good human quality of eros love is completely eradicated. The less values people have the more capable of doing anything they become, doesn't that scare you people? This advertisement of self destruction and evil must be stopped.

Yeah--this ad will do all that. :rolleyes:

Call Dewey Cheetem, & Howe."

lol!

I just read that the billboard was so controversial and has generated so much negative feedback that they tore it down yesterday.

Too bad, I thought it was kind of funny...

But he has. He's calling my prevention for those things evil, and going to that extreme makes it clear he's supporting it. Besides I'm only defending myself, I post minding my own business and this git always shows up twisting my words, falsely accusing me and trolling and flamebaiting me. How can I be at the wrong for defending myself? I bet if any one of you were in my situation you'd do the exact same thing.

No. He's calling your willingness to create dystopias in order to satisfy your urge to push YOUR notion of "right" evil. And he's not twisting your words, the first expression YOU used here was "moralistic fascism". Read "The Handmaid's Tale" and tell me if it works. You'll find YOUR discourse very close to the one espoused by the people that caused the dystopia.

Furthermore, WHO decides if a divorce is "selfish"? You? The government has no business telling people who they stay with.

Call Dewey Cheetem, & Howe.

Car Talk fan?

Apparently the city ripped it down because they didn't get a permit for the billboard.

Car Talk fan?

that joke is so much older than Car Talk.

I just read that the billboard was so controversial and has generated so much negative feedback that they tore it down yesterday.

Too bad, I thought it was kind of funny...

No such thing as bad publicity?

I thought it was kind of funny...same here..

I just read that the billboard was so controversial and has generated so much negative feedback that they tore it down yesterday.I hope it was not the City.. free speech and all.

Whaaaaa...?

Now, I'm not against divorce in principle, but this is still kind of sad. Not funny, sad.