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Right I feel I can tell NSG this through my anonymity because I feel what I'm about to say would make me a laughing stock with the people I know and any respect for me lost. Most will probably think I'm insane, believe me that's what I feel and I'll explain why later, some may be understanding and maybe a few can offer me a decent explanation.

We all know what dreams are and most of the time they don't make sense, a random stream of images but recently these dreams are becoming more real. I seem to be seeing things that occur later in life aka the future (pause for laughter). Most are minor things regarding my life and I've been keeping a log of things I dream and cross them off when they happen. The scenes I see aren't blurry or confusing. They're very detailed right down to the stains on a desk or whatever. Anyway I look at the log and out of 11 things I've written down I've crossed off 8. Most of you are probably thinking what a nut and I've been convinced I am too.

First before any judgement is made you'll need to know my position. I believe in aliens and ghosts but I don' believe in being able to predict the future. I personlly believe the future is unpredictable so this experience shall we say is somewhat disturbing. I'm thinking of seeking help about this but first I want your opinions, advice and if possibel a rational explanation.

You could see a psychiatrist.

Coincidenceville, population: you.

Let me guess:

They're flashes of certain scenes? They usually include people, but you can't discern a face but if they're supposed to be someone you know they "feel" like that person?

You have a vague memory of having dreamed something, but only when (if) it happens in reality does it come back to you?

How old are you (serious, not a dig)?

As the future is largely influenced by you yourself, maybe you are unconsciously leading yourself into situations where your dreams would come true. Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy; you dream, and make decisions that may lead to the fulfillment of your dream.

He's a future remote viewer.

The CIA wants to hire you.

My friend had a dream about a tiger on the banks of a river near his house and then when he went down to the river the next day there was a giant stuffed tiger in a kids bedroom window looking at him.

He would have take a picture to prove it but apparently him didn't fancy getting nicked for paedophilia that day.

Brutland is correct. :3 If you go to a psychiatrist, they will most likely tell you what Brutland said.

Or they'll just think you're crazy.

But I sincerely hope it isn't the latter.

Well, regardless of any explanation, rational or not, if you log your dreams and afterwards things that you saw in them happen, it's *positively* happening. If it's explainable through science or not, is quite pointless when you have proof. Remember, science keeps discovering new things, and breakthroughs are made every now and then.

You can believe it or not, but that happens to me too. We don't share the particularities, but sometives I have precognitive dreams. They are usually about weird things that will happen to me next day. It freaked me out a bit, until I started writing dreams down and I had SOLID PROOF that I had the dream BEFORE whatever happened. Feel free to PM me (or not) if you want to vent or something.

Seriously, if you have solid proof that it's happening, what the hell do you care about the explanation? Even if there was one, unless you held majors in several sciences, you probably couldn't understand it.

Right I feel I can tell NSG this through my anonymity because I feel what I'm about to say would make me a laughing stock with the people I know and any respect for me lost. Most will probably think I'm insane, believe me that's what I feel and I'll explain why later, some may be understanding and maybe a few can offer me a decent explanation.

We all know what dreams are and most of the time they don't make sense, a random stream of images but recently these dreams are becoming more real. I seem to be seeing things that occur later in life aka the future (pause for laughter). Most are minor things regarding my life and I've been keeping a log of things I dream and cross them off when they happen. The scenes I see aren't blurry or confusing. They're very detailed right down to the stains on a desk or whatever. Anyway I look at the log and out of 11 things I've written down I've crossed off 8. Most of you are probably thinking what a nut and I've been convinced I am too.

First before any judgement is made you'll need to know my position. I believe in aliens and ghosts but I don' believe in being able to predict the future. I personlly believe the future is unpredictable so this experience shall we say is somewhat disturbing. I'm thinking of seeking help about this but first I want your opinions, advice and if possibel a rational explanation.

happens to me alot. dont worry about it.

You're not the only one to have dreams like that. I too have logged down details regarding such dreams.

I choose to not let it bother me much, but sometimes something or other will.

All in all, follow this simple rule:

Carpe diem. "Seize the day."

I wouldn't worry about it. I look at "prophetic dreams" with the same skepticism I look at "accurate horoscopes." More often than not, if you believe in them, you will, however, consciously, work to make them come true.

As the future is largely influenced by you yourself, maybe you are unconsciously leading yourself into situations where your dreams would come true. Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy; you dream, and make decisions that may lead to the fulfillment of your dream.
That might be the explanation.

Another possible cause is that you remember a lot more then what you can actively recall. The buried memories could surface in a dream, hypnosis or familiar situation. Maybe you saw or heard clues hinting towards what could happen without actively remembering or connecting the clues. Then dreamt according to those clues?

But I think the most likely cause is that when you search for one particular impression among everything you experience then there is a good chance something similar is somewhere in the constant flood of millions of impressions you experience every day. You never notice most of the flood but you will notice the one thing you are looking for.

http://xkcd.com/c258.html

Don't listen to these cynics.

YOU ARE THE ONE.

I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Do you know kung-fu?

EDIT: Memories of Kahta spring to mind.

Right I feel I can tell NSG this through my anonymity because I feel what I'm about to say would make me a laughing stock with the people I know and any respect for me lost. Most will probably think I'm insane, believe me that's what I feel and I'll explain why later, some may be understanding and maybe a few can offer me a decent explanation.

We all know what dreams are and most of the time they don't make sense, a random stream of images but recently these dreams are becoming more real. I seem to be seeing things that occur later in life aka the future (pause for laughter). Most are minor things regarding my life and I've been keeping a log of things I dream and cross them off when they happen. The scenes I see aren't blurry or confusing. They're very detailed right down to the stains on a desk or whatever. Anyway I look at the log and out of 11 things I've written down I've crossed off 8. Most of you are probably thinking what a nut and I've been convinced I am too.

First before any judgement is made you'll need to know my position. I believe in aliens and ghosts but I don' believe in being able to predict the future. I personlly believe the future is unpredictable so this experience shall we say is somewhat disturbing. I'm thinking of seeking help about this but first I want your opinions, advice and if possibel a rational explanation.

You could enjoy it. Tell who you want. It's not a disorder; dreams often are quite capable of producing the results you have suggested. And if you know the future, there is still nothing you can do to change it (otherwise it wouldn't be the future...just what might have been, when you get around to it), so enjoy it! Kind of freaky, yes I know (not to the same level as you, but several of my dreams have played themselves out in rl as well), but you know what? It's a personal victory over the unconquerable facade of time. Enjoy it :).

A déjà vu is usually a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something.

A déjà vu is usually a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something.

Stop revealing all this information. You're only putting people at risk...

Right I feel I can tell NSG this through my anonymity because I feel what I'm about to say would make me a laughing stock with the people I know and any respect for me lost. Most will probably think I'm insane, believe me that's what I feel and I'll explain why later, some may be understanding and maybe a few can offer me a decent explanation.

We all know what dreams are and most of the time they don't make sense, a random stream of images but recently these dreams are becoming more real. I seem to be seeing things that occur later in life aka the future (pause for laughter). Most are minor things regarding my life and I've been keeping a log of things I dream and cross them off when they happen. The scenes I see aren't blurry or confusing. They're very detailed right down to the stains on a desk or whatever. Anyway I look at the log and out of 11 things I've written down I've crossed off 8. Most of you are probably thinking what a nut and I've been convinced I am too.

First before any judgement is made you'll need to know my position. I believe in aliens and ghosts but I don' believe in being able to predict the future. I personlly believe the future is unpredictable so this experience shall we say is somewhat disturbing. I'm thinking of seeking help about this but first I want your opinions, advice and if possibel a rational explanation.
I've experienced the same thing before, except I don't keep logs of these dreams. I never thought about seeing someone about them, though, mostly because I doubt any professional could relate. Never tried to rationally explain them, either, seeing as they aren't the product of rational processes.

It's not something to worry about, at least it hasn't been for me. All of the dreams have always been little moments, like conversations or leisure times, never anything of life-changing importance. Just leave them be, or if you can't do that, identify a common thread in these dreams. Maybe they are tied to a particular emotion or activity.

Can you be specific - what kind of things have you predicted?
If you've dreamed about violence in the Middle East, then the dream coming true is hardly a surprise. If, on the other hand, you predicted a rain of frogs and one happened, that would be something else.

A friend of mine swears blind he dreamed the Pope would be shot, a week before it happened. Says the dream was so vivid, he had even considered telling the authorities about it. It's probably just as well that he didn't.

yeah, what pictish said. tell us exactly what you had written down and then tell us how it came true.

I've had dreams that later came true as well (and I don't mean sorta true, but exact recreations). It's a neat phenomenon that makes life more mysterious. I say that you should just continue logging and enjoy yourself.

Hey, which stocks should I buy.

Don't listen to these cynics.

YOU ARE THE ONE.

He's having weird dreams...not fighting killer robots in a computer program

During sleep, your brain puts things together. It's processing information, correlating relationships, and developing theories. This is precisely what you try to do consciously when you try to predict the future; accordingly, it's no surprise that you would sometimes dream things prior to happening.

The sense of an "exact match" is not always so good, though, since dreams are typically not remembered as well as we think they are (and as a result are "flexible" memories). Eight out of the last eleven that you've written down is a pretty good predictive record, but I wouldn't be worried unless they involved lots of completely novel experiences.

Jesus came back, and he started this thread.

Well, regardless of any explanation, rational or not, if you log your dreams and afterwards things that you saw in them happen, it's *positively* happening. If it's explainable through science or not, is quite pointless when you have proof. Remember, science keeps discovering new things, and breakthroughs are made every now and then.

You can believe it or not, but that happens to me too. We don't share the particularities, but sometives I have precognitive dreams. They are usually about weird things that will happen to me next day. It freaked me out a bit, until I started writing dreams down and I had SOLID PROOF that I had the dream BEFORE whatever happened. Feel free to PM me (or not) if you want to vent or something.

Seriously, if you have solid proof that it's happening, what the hell do you care about the explanation? Even if there was one, unless you held majors in several sciences, you probably couldn't understand it.

Well at least I know I'm not the only one experiencing this. :) Coulkd show the power of the brain. We only use around 10% of it after all, Who knows what the other 90% holds.

Let me guess:

They're flashes of certain scenes? They usually include people, but you can't discern a face but if they're supposed to be someone you know they "feel" like that person?

You have a vague memory of having dreamed something, but only when (if) it happens in reality does it come back to you?

How old are you (serious, not a dig)?

Nope. I see faces and places in precise detail. The dreams become memories as if I've done it before and when it happens it feels like deja vu.

Don't listen to these cynics.

YOU ARE THE ONE.

I KNEW IT!

Do you know kung-fu?

EDIT: Memories of Kahta spring to mind.

Only a little bit.

Can you be specific - what kind of things have you predicted?
If you've dreamed about violence in the Middle East, then the dream coming true is hardly a surprise. If, on the other hand, you predicted a rain of frogs and one happened, that would be something else.

A friend of mine swears blind he dreamed the Pope would be shot, a week before it happened. Says the dream was so vivid, he had even considered telling the authorities about it. It's probably just as well that he didn't.

Things I've dreamed would be trivial things and one major one. First a list of the trivial:

A friend of mine telling me she is leaving her job. I dreamt this November and last week she told me this.

Also I dreamt about two of my friends splitting up. The dream was set in a my friends gardern with him in a black shirt and jeans where he broke up with his girlfriend over the phone. A couple of weeks later the exact scene plays out.

The major one would be the Hemel Hempstead explosion. I just dreamt a news report about it and when it happened I watched that news report on tv.
Jesus came back, and he started this thread.

Damn my cover's been blown...

A friend of mine telling me she is leaving her job. I dreamt this November and last week she told me this.
You may have perceived her displeasure at the job and foreseen her departure. No mystical explanation needed there.
Also I dreamt about two of my friends splitting up. The dream was set in a my friends gardern with him in a black shirt and jeans where he broke up with his girlfriend over the phone. A couple of weeks later the exact scene plays out.
You know these people pretty well. Correctly predicting their behaviour isn't as difficult as you might think.
The major one would be the Hemel Hempstead explosion. I just dreamt a news report about it and when it happened I watched that news report on tv.
Any chance these happened on the same day and you heard about it while you slept?

You may have perceived her displeasure at the job and foreseen her departure. No mystical explanation needed there.

You know these people pretty well. Correctly predicting their behaviour isn't as difficult as you might think.

Any chance these happened on the same day and you heard about it while you slept?

Sitaution 1: She was very happy with her job. Was trying to get more hours and such. Her leaving was pretty much out of the blue.

Situation 2: The breakdown wasn't expected at all. These guys were really happy.

Situation 3: Nope. I heard about it when I turned the tv on the next morning. I had been camping the few days before so I had no acccess to any news beforehand.

I see your skepticism and belive me thats how I've been feelingaabout it. Trying to dismiss it with rational thoughst and such.

I once had a dream that my alarm went off in the morning and there was a talk show program on the radio. As usual I layed there listening to the program for a few minutes before I got up to get dressed and go to work. As I was getting dressed in my dream, the alarm went off and the exact same show was on the radio that I had heard in my dream; word for word.

The problem is that if you're not writing out excessive detail then your dreams are not likely happening how you're remembering them. Dreams don't form memories in the same way we experience the waking world. Because of this some details can change as we experience something that reminds us of the dream. For example, you dream about a friend losing their job, and your friend loses their job and the dream was suddenly about that friend, even though there was no face when it happened.

Often times we fill in dreams after they happen and this makes it seem more predictive. It happens very fast so it feels like we're remembering the dream instead of inserting into the dream.

Our brains are complicated and unless you're gathering very specific evidence, then you'll likely find there is a pretty adequate explanation for these events.

Spoken by someone who has that feeling of seeing something happen they've seen before on a regular basis. As such, I've actually done a considerable amount of research on this. Unsurprisingly, there has never been a proven case of future prediction.

Right I feel I can tell NSG this through my anonymity because I feel what I'm about to say would make me a laughing stock with the people I know and any respect for me lost. Most will probably think I'm insane, believe me that's what I feel and I'll explain why later, some may be understanding and maybe a few can offer me a decent explanation.

We all know what dreams are and most of the time they don't make sense, a random stream of images but recently these dreams are becoming more real. I seem to be seeing things that occur later in life aka the future (pause for laughter). Most are minor things regarding my life and I've been keeping a log of things I dream and cross them off when they happen. The scenes I see aren't blurry or confusing. They're very detailed right down to the stains on a desk or whatever. Anyway I look at the log and out of 11 things I've written down I've crossed off 8. Most of you are probably thinking what a nut and I've been convinced I am too.

First before any judgement is made you'll need to know my position. I believe in aliens and ghosts but I don' believe in being able to predict the future. I personlly believe the future is unpredictable so this experience shall we say is somewhat disturbing. I'm thinking of seeking help about this but first I want your opinions, advice and if possibel a rational explanation.

You dont have to be a genius to see your future mate...front pages of the tabloids as the next lone gunman ;)

Sounds awesome. I say go with the flow and be thankful if you have a gift.

Why the hell didn't you see the fire? :mad:

Hmm...mine were always rather vague until the event in question, then everything sorta clicked in my head. The last one I can remember having was seeing the Mississippi river and some birds swimming in it, then when we actually went to that area years later, seeing the exact same scene.

'Course, I was much younger then, and I haven't had one since.

Train your ability to proficiency. Else, don't worry about it.

1st post...

It all depends on what you dream of.

If, let's say, you see yourself driving to work and a light turns red... AND THEN IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.... wow.

On the other hand, if you dream than some random individual in bizarre clothing will approach you on the street and show you the doorway to an alternate dimension... or if you dreamt of this very post... You know what, if you did dream of this post already, do me a favor, when you go to bed tonight, keep the the Canadian lottory (649 or Super7) in mind so that you dream about it, then tomorrow you can tell me (by PM, what no PM? okay, telegram) the winning numbers for this weekend. You can have half if I win.

Coulkd show the power of the brain. We only use around 10% of it after all, Who knows what the other 90% holds.


Yeah, this a widely held misinformation. I think it's a quote by Einstein or somesuch; who might be quite an intelligent guy, but without any degree in neuroscience. Not that I have, but I can clearly remember my professors getting worked up about this stuff...

Stop revealing all this information. You're only putting people at risk...

Everyone here are still very much a part of the system and as such we are considered the enemy *checks to see if an agent is morphing through me*.

Anyway I once had a dream that I walked into a former classroom but forgot to put on trousers beforehand. Then I realised I was having a dream. Very surreal.

Yeah, this a widely held misinformation. I think it's a quote by Einstein or somesuch; who might be quite an intelligent guy, but without any degree in neuroscience. Not that I have, but I can clearly remember my professors getting worked up about this stuff...

*Reads more Dr. Karl Kruszelnicki books*

Did you have a dream that you could see the future in your dreams, because you obviously cause things to happen by dreaming them.

Right I feel I can tell NSG this through my anonymity because I feel what I'm about to say would make me a laughing stock with the people I know and any respect for me lost. Most will probably think I'm insane, believe me that's what I feel and I'll explain why later, some may be understanding and maybe a few can offer me a decent explanation.

We all know what dreams are and most of the time they don't make sense, a random stream of images but recently these dreams are becoming more real. I seem to be seeing things that occur later in life aka the future (pause for laughter). Most are minor things regarding my life and I've been keeping a log of things I dream and cross them off when they happen. The scenes I see aren't blurry or confusing. They're very detailed right down to the stains on a desk or whatever. Anyway I look at the log and out of 11 things I've written down I've crossed off 8. Most of you are probably thinking what a nut and I've been convinced I am too.

First before any judgement is made you'll need to know my position. I believe in aliens and ghosts but I don' believe in being able to predict the future. I personlly believe the future is unpredictable so this experience shall we say is somewhat disturbing. I'm thinking of seeking help about this but first I want your opinions, advice and if possibel a rational explanation.
I started taking notes of my dreams because I've experienced the same and couldn't really believe it either.

Strangely enough, it sometimes takes years for the dreamt scene to occur - but when they do, it's more than just a crazy feeling of deja-vus.

There's more between heaven and earth than science can explain.

Make the best out of it and don't be freaked out. That gets you nowhere. Simply accept it and keep crossing out what you've "predicted".

Oh, and should you dream of certain armageddonish things - I'll leave it up to you to warn society. ;)

I started taking notes of my dreams because I've experienced the same and couldn't really believe it either.

Strangely enough, it sometimes takes years for the dreamt scene to occur - but when they do, it's more than just a crazy feeling of deja-vus.

There's more between heaven and earth than science can explain.

Make the best out of it and don't be freaked out. That gets you nowhere. Simply accept it and keep crossing out what you've "predicted".

Oh, and should you dream of certain armageddonish things - I'll leave it up to you to warn society. ;)

Damn it! I'll even put that in my sig so I remember. Well you guys have reassured me alot and I've decided to not let it get in the way of anything.

You're not the only one to have dreams like that. I too have logged down details regarding such dreams.

I choose to not let it bother me much, but sometimes something or other will.

All in all, follow this simple rule:

Carpe diem. "Seize the day."
Carpe diem actually means pluck the day, I think.
http://xkcd.com/c258.html
:fluffle:
Why the hell didn't you see the fire? :mad:
Who says he didn't?

Carpe diem actually means pluck the day, I think.

:fluffle:

Who says he didn't?

Damn I knew I had to tell someone about a fire.

Damn I knew I had to tell someone about a fire.

Here's the thing. People have offered you reasonable explanations. You've chosen to ignore them, to the point of not even replying. This suggests you're not actually looking for reasonable explanations and that this is why you're not finding one.

You think you can't predict some of these things, but I can show you a doctor that use a formula, a repeatable and clear formula, for predicting whether or not a couple will be together in 20 years. And he's nearly always right. He started out by simply doing it and then eventually figured out what data he was using to make his predictions. Nothing psychic. Just not a conscious effort.

We gather much more information than you realize. Unless you can give examples of predictions that can't fairly simply be explained (like predictions about close friends taking actions), you've not really demonstrated to yourself or anyone else what could or should rationally be called anything outside of what is standardly accepted by science.

Now if your predictions involve specific details about places you've never been or people you've never met, that would be more interesting. But only if those details are very unlikely, are almost always found be true (meaning outside of normal likelihood), and are mapped out on paper ahead of time.

Here's the thing. People have offered you reasonable explanations. You've chosen to ignore them, to the point of not even replying. This suggests you're not actually looking for reasonable explanations and that this is why you're not finding one.

You think you can't predict some of these things, but I can show you a doctor that use a formula, a repeatable and clear formula, for predicting whether or not a couple will be together in 20 years. And he's nearly always right. He started out by simply doing it and then eventually figured out what data he was using to make his predictions. Nothing psychic. Just not a conscious effort.

We gather much more information than you realize. Unless you can give examples of predictions that can't fairly simply be explained (like predictions about close friends taking actions), you've not really demonstrated to yourself or anyone else what could or should rationally be called anything outside of what is standardly accepted by science.

Now if your predictions involve specific details about places you've never been or people you've never met, that would be more interesting. But only if those details are very unlikely, are almost always found be true (meaning outside of normal likelihood), and are mapped out on paper ahead of time.


Actually I have taken note of all the explanations. I haven't replied to all these comments because it'd basically be posting thank you very much for the help over and over. I'm taking all these into account and use them as starting points to do some reseacrh on it.

Yeah, this a widely held misinformation. I think it's a quote by Einstein or somesuch; who might be quite an intelligent guy, but without any degree in neuroscience. Not that I have, but I can clearly remember my professors getting worked up about this stuff...
The actual facts are that IIRC, although we do use 100% of the brain, 90% of the actual activity concerns autonomic processes such as breathing, heartbeat, subconscious thought, &c. Conscious thought and experience accounts for the other 10%, which is what we "use" (itself not the best usage for something like this) since that's what we're actually aware of going on on a regular basis. If we could somehow "use" the 90% subconscious processes like we do the 10% of conscious brain processes, we'd simply have a lot of people who took over beating their own hearts dropping dead from forgetfulness.:eek:
However, on the brighter side and to sort-of respond to the OP, maybe taking over the percentage of that 90% which would give control over dreams and certain subconscious thought processes would give us an advantage over where things stand now? It's a task for natural selection almost surely, but I figure if enough of us who use a few percentage points more in the right places of our brains got together, had kids, and raised them to use their above-average brains responsibly then we could gradually chip away at the limits separating what parts of our minds we can control now from what we want to control without endangering our autonomic systems. Maybe not "The One" style l33tne55 unless that's been squirrelled away somewhere, but cool enough in its own right eh?:cool:

Damn it! I'll even put that in my sig so I remember. Well you guys have reassured me alot and I've decided to not let it get in the way of anything.
Good thinking! ;)

The actual facts are that IIRC, although we do use 100% of the brain, 90% of the actual activity concerns autonomic processes such as breathing, heartbeat, subconscious thought, &c. Conscious thought and experience accounts for the other 10%, which is what we "use" (itself not the best usage for something like this) since that's what we're actually aware of going on on a regular basis. If we could somehow "use" the 90% subconscious processes like we do the 10% of conscious brain processes, we'd simply have a lot of people who took over beating their own hearts dropping dead from forgetfulness.:eek:
However, on the brighter side and to sort-of respond to the OP, maybe taking over the percentage of that 90% which would give control over dreams and certain subconscious thought processes would give us an advantage over where things stand now? It's a task for natural selection almost surely, but I figure if enough of us who use a few percentage points more in the right places of our brains got together, had kids, and raised them to use their above-average brains responsibly then we could gradually chip away at the limits separating what parts of our minds we can control now from what we want to control without endangering our autonomic systems. Maybe not "The One" style l33tne55 unless that's been squirrelled away somewhere, but cool enough in its own right eh?:cool:

Quite a fair amount of the brain is made up of connector and support cells.

As far as predictive dreams go, i've had a bunch which have occured anywhere between a day or twe and years after.

I had a 'vision' of the room i would be in the first time i went to work experience, talking to one of the people there with a clock in the background showing the exact time. Which came true exactly.

I woke up one morning with a set of numbers imprinted on my memory which 2 days later won the lottery.

Another vision of a cafe in a place in Brazil that i had never visted or even heard of before but was exactly as i had 'seen' it with all the people and decorations.

There are a whole bunch of others, but those are the most memorable. I personally don't have any problem with believing fate may exist. The work experience one was an option i usually wouldn't have gone for except that i was in an odd mood when i picked it, and it was the only one of my options that responded.